Cannot schedule backup on SBS 2008

Hi,

I am trying to schedule backup on my new Small business server 2008 to an
external drive, but it always give me error "Cannot configure backup
schedule". Checking the SBCW.log file, and found the following errors. Does
anyone know how to resolve this issue? the size of the server I am trying to
backup is only 60GB, and my empty external drive is 500GB.

Thanks in advance!

An exception of type 'Type:
Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Common.WindowsTas kSchedulerException,
Common, Version=6.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35'
has occurred.
Timestamp: 07/22/2010 23:02:11
Message: Failed to find the task path
Stack: at
Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Common.WindowsTas kScheduler..ctor(String
taskPath, String taskName)
at
Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Storage.Common.Se rverBackupUtility.GetServerBackupTaskStatus()
---------------------------------------
An exception of type 'Type: System.IO.FileNotFoundException, mscorlib,
Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089' has
occurred.
Timestamp: 07/22/2010 23:02:11
Message: The system cannot find the file specified. (Exception from HRESULT:
0x80070002)
Stack: at TaskScheduler.TaskSchedulerClass.GetFolder(String Path)
at
Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Common.WindowsTas kScheduler..ctor(String
taskPath, String taskName)

[1184] 100722.230211.4220: Storage: No previous backup found ErrorCode:0
BaseException:
Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Storage.Common.St orageException:
GetServerBackupTaskStatus: fail to find the task ---> ErrorCode:0
BaseException:
Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Common.WindowsTas kSchedulerException: Failed
to find the task path ---> System.IO.FileNotFoundException: The system cannot
find the file specified. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070002)
at TaskScheduler.TaskSchedulerClass.GetFolder(String Path)
at
Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Common.WindowsTas kScheduler..ctor(String
taskPath, String taskName)
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at
Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Common.WindowsTas kScheduler..ctor(String
taskPath, String taskName)
at
Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Storage.Common.Se rverBackupUtility.GetServerBackupTaskStatus()
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at
Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Storage.Common.Se rverBackupUtility.GetServerBackupTaskStatus()
at
Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Storage.Common.Se rverBackupWorker.SavePolicyWithEnabledState(WBPoli cy policy)

Thanks a lot Brian! I did look into some of those posts, but did not anything
that is suitable for my situation. However, through your link today I found
one which could be possibly the cause:

"The backup destination drive must be larger than the partition(s) that you
want to back up (including freespace). "

My backup drive is 500GB and my C partition is 750GB, with only 60GB data.
So I will try to find a larger drive to test it out, or make C smaller if
possible.

"Brian Cryer" wrote:

> "Hart" <> wrote in message
> news:E4F050FC-2344-48B7-89D0-...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to schedule backup on my new Small business server 2008 to an
> > external drive, but it always give me error "Cannot configure backup
> > schedule". Checking the SBCW.log file, and found the following errors.
> > Does
> > anyone know how to resolve this issue? the size of the server I am trying
> > to
> > backup is only 60GB, and my empty external drive is 500GB.
>
> This might not be it (so apologies in advance), but almost all the problems
> I've had with backup which haven't been obvious have all turned out to be
> permissions related.
>
> That said, all the hits on google didn't seem to point to this being
> permissions related:
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cannot+configure+backup+schedule
> Worth checking out the first few results at least.
> --
> Brian Cryer
> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
>
> .
>

Hi Brian,

When you said "permission related", I actually had some similar suspicion,
based on the errors in the log "could not find folder/file" etc. But I added
as many roles/groups as I could to my account, so I am not sure what could be
missing.

Do you have any reference or link that talks about this "permission
related" possibility?

I am reluctant to buy a larger drive or make a change to the current
partition (any risk there???), as I mentioned in my last reply...

Thanks,


"Brian Cryer" wrote:

> "Hart" <> wrote in message
> news:E4F050FC-2344-48B7-89D0-...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to schedule backup on my new Small business server 2008 to an
> > external drive, but it always give me error "Cannot configure backup
> > schedule". Checking the SBCW.log file, and found the following errors.
> > Does
> > anyone know how to resolve this issue? the size of the server I am trying
> > to
> > backup is only 60GB, and my empty external drive is 500GB.
>
> This might not be it (so apologies in advance), but almost all the problems
> I've had with backup which haven't been obvious have all turned out to be
> permissions related.
>
> That said, all the hits on google didn't seem to point to this being
> permissions related:
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cannot+configure+backup+schedule
> Worth checking out the first few results at least.
> --
> Brian Cryer
> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
>
> .
>

Yes, I tried both SBS console and Windows Server console, but both failed to
schedule the backup. I guess only SBS console writes to the SBCW log file. I
do not know where to look for logs from Windows server (for that, it failed
when it tried to format the external drive).

The SBCW log actually gave me some info: at the very beginning, basically I
got two exceptions: "could not find the folder", and then "could not find
the file". No specific names though. I searched online, and found someone
mentioned a folder "Backup" under the "C:\Program Files\Windows Small
Business Server\" folder. So I manually added that folder. The error about
folder in the log actually disappeared!

I wonder whether putting a valid file "Small Business Backup Script.bks"
under that folder could resolve the problem. Does anyone happen to have such
file to share?

Thanks,

"Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote:

> Are you using the SBS Backup Wizard
>
> --
> Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
> Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
> http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-...7269967&sr=8-1
> Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
> A Microsoft Registered Partner
> ------------------------------------
> MVPs do not work for Microsoft
> Please do not submit questions directly to me.
>
> "Hart" <> wrote in message news:E4F050FC-2344-48B7-89D0-...
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to schedule backup on my new Small business server 2008 to an
> external drive, but it always give me error "Cannot configure backup
> schedule". Checking the SBCW.log file, and found the following errors. Does
> anyone know how to resolve this issue? the size of the server I am trying to
> backup is only 60GB, and my empty external drive is 500GB.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> An exception of type 'Type:
> Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Common.WindowsTas kSchedulerException,
> Common, Version=6.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35'
> has occurred.
> Timestamp: 07/22/2010 23:02:11
> Message: Failed to find the task path
> Stack: at
> Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Common.WindowsTas kScheduler..ctor(String
> taskPath, String taskName)
> at
> Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Storage.Common.Se rverBackupUtility.GetServerBackupTaskStatus()
> ---------------------------------------
> An exception of type 'Type: System.IO.FileNotFoundException, mscorlib,
> Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089' has
> occurred.
> Timestamp: 07/22/2010 23:02:11
> Message: The system cannot find the file specified. (Exception from HRESULT:
> 0x80070002)
> Stack: at TaskScheduler.TaskSchedulerClass.GetFolder(String Path)
> at
> Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Common.WindowsTas kScheduler..ctor(String
> taskPath, String taskName)
>
> [1184] 100722.230211.4220: Storage: No previous backup found ErrorCode:0
> BaseException:
> Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Storage.Common.St orageException:
> GetServerBackupTaskStatus: fail to find the task ---> ErrorCode:0
> BaseException:
> Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Common.WindowsTas kSchedulerException: Failed
> to find the task path ---> System.IO.FileNotFoundException: The system cannot
> find the file specified. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070002)
> at TaskScheduler.TaskSchedulerClass.GetFolder(String Path)
> at
> Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Common.WindowsTas kScheduler..ctor(String
> taskPath, String taskName)
> --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
> at
> Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Common.WindowsTas kScheduler..ctor(String
> taskPath, String taskName)
> at
> Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Storage.Common.Se rverBackupUtility.GetServerBackupTaskStatus()
> --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
> at
> Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Storage.Common.Se rverBackupUtility.GetServerBackupTaskStatus()
> at
> Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Storage.Common.Se rverBackupWorker.SavePolicyWithEnabledState(WBPoli cy policy)
>
>

I tried another backup app which is also backing up the whole partition, not
just the data part. so I just ordered a 1.5TB drive for backup purpose. I
thought about shrinking the drive, but with all the cheap HDD available, it
really does not give me much diference. So I decided to keep it that way.
Hopefully, this 1.5TB will do what I want it to do. otherwise my wall will
add another hole!

"Brian Cryer" wrote:

>
> "Hart" <> wrote in message
> news:7594FF5E-5A8A-408E-BAD3-...
> > Thanks a lot Brian! I did look into some of those posts, but did not
> > anything
> > that is suitable for my situation. However, through your link today I
> > found
> > one which could be possibly the cause:
> >
> > "The backup destination drive must be larger than the partition(s) that
> > you
> > want to back up (including freespace). "
> >
> > My backup drive is 500GB and my C partition is 750GB, with only 60GB data.
> > So I will try to find a larger drive to test it out, or make C smaller if
> > possible.
>
> Well it totally sucks if that is the case. I would have expected free space
> to be the deciding factor not the partition size. 60GB of data logically
> ought to backup to your 500GB drive. Thinking about it, all the backups I do
> are to larger drives than the partition I'm backing up. That said, I
> wouldn't have expected this from preventing you from scheduling the backup -
> just running it. So I'm not sure that this is the right road to be going
> down - anyone reading this with more experience?
>
> If you go this route then I'd advise against shrinking your C drive. Okay
> 750GB is overly generous, but (backup aside) it shouldn't hurt.
> --
> Brian Cryer
> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
>
>
>
> .
>

"does the backup run okay if you run it from the command
line"??? How can I do this?

"Brian Cryer" wrote:

> "Brian Cryer" <not.here@localhost> wrote in message
> news:eO%...
> > "Hart" <> wrote in message
> > news:F5757121-4E2B-4D93-B2E7-...
> >> Hi Brian,
> >>
> >> When you said "permission related", I actually had some similar
> >> suspicion,
> >> based on the errors in the log "could not find folder/file" etc. But I
> >> added
> >> as many roles/groups as I could to my account, so I am not sure what
> >> could be
> >> missing.
> >>
> >> Do you have any reference or link that talks about this "permission
> >> related" possibility?
> >
> > No, just experience. If you log-in using an administrator account and run
> > it "manually" then does it work? I've had problems when a backup would
> > work when run directly but not when run via the scheduler.
> > --
> > Brian Cryer
> > http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
>
> I should have added: does the backup run okay if you run it from the command
> line and forget about scheduling? So is it "just" the scheduling side which
> doesn't work?
> --
> Brian Cryer
> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
>
> .
>

I can't do a one-time backup either.

"Brian Cryer" wrote:

> Sorry, I script my backups ... but if you run the Windows Server Backup
> wizard can you do a backup ("Backup once") instead of trying to schedule
> one?
> --
> Brian Cryer
> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
>
> "Hart" <> wrote in message
> news:7DE49C47-9E8D-4CC0-AE1D-...
> > "does the backup run okay if you run it from the command
> > line"??? How can I do this?
>
> .
>

i think utilities built in the system sometimes mess things up.
they always fail me in some way.
especially for backup, i recommend professional third party tools, such as such as easus todo backup, acronis true image, paragon backup, clonezilla.
acronis is the most expensive one, clonezilla is just so so, easus todo backup is comparatively good in features and price.
u can choose what suits you best.