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Gillian
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      07-19-2005
Hi There

I am having similar problems to others but with a difference. Since V6 has
come out of Windows Update on some servers in my network the download fails
and in the windowsupdate.log I get :

2005-07-19 17:15:53 1000 184 DnldMgr WARNING: Download job failed because of
proxy auth or server auth.
2005-07-19 17:15:53 1000 184 DnldMgr Error 0x80244017 occurred while
downloading update; notifying dependent calls.

on a particular machine I then manually installed the update for BITS and
WINHTTP (KB842773) with the hopes that it might help, now when I go to the
windows update site it is stuck on the screen saying "checking for the latest
updates", and I can now see in the Windowsupdate.log:

2005-07-19 17:25:10 1000 494 Misc WARNING: WinHttp:
SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x80190191
2005-07-19 17:25:10 1000 494 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded
failed with 0x80190191

However, I have other Windows 2003 servers where the dowloads and updates
work without a problem???

I have added http://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
http://download.windowsupdate.com
http://update.microsoft.com
https://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
https://windowsupdate.microsoft.com

to my Trusted list.

I am using NetIQ Webmarshal as a proxy and the user account I am using has
rights to download and browse anything.

Any help would be appreciated.

Many Thanks

Gillian
 
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PA Bear
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      07-20-2005
See:

You cannot download updates when you access the Windows Update Web site from
a Windows XP-based computer that is behind a firewall or a proxy server:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;896226

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security

Gillian wrote:
> Hi There
>
> I am having similar problems to others but with a difference. Since V6
> has
> come out of Windows Update on some servers in my network the download
> fails
> and in the windowsupdate.log I get :
>
> 2005-07-19 17:15:53 1000 184 DnldMgr WARNING: Download job failed because
> of
> proxy auth or server auth.
> 2005-07-19 17:15:53 1000 184 DnldMgr Error 0x80244017 occurred while
> downloading update; notifying dependent calls.
>
> on a particular machine I then manually installed the update for BITS and
> WINHTTP (KB842773) with the hopes that it might help, now when I go to the
> windows update site it is stuck on the screen saying "checking for the
> latest updates", and I can now see in the Windowsupdate.log:
>
> 2005-07-19 17:25:10 1000 494 Misc WARNING: WinHttp:
> SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x80190191
> 2005-07-19 17:25:10 1000 494 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded
> failed with 0x80190191
>
> However, I have other Windows 2003 servers where the dowloads and updates
> work without a problem???
>
> I have added http://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
> http://download.windowsupdate.com
> http://update.microsoft.com
> https://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
> https://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
>
> to my Trusted list.
>
> I am using NetIQ Webmarshal as a proxy and the user account I am using has
> rights to download and browse anything.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Gillian


 
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wtf
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      07-22-2005
Hate to say it, but this is not true. There are ways to make it work. Consult
the KB.

All the best
--
H. Eberhard
B&E Consulting
Germany


"PA Bear" wrote:

> See:
>
> You cannot download updates when you access the Windows Update Web site from
> a Windows XP-based computer that is behind a firewall or a proxy server:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;896226
>
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>
> Gillian wrote:
> > Hi There
> >
> > I am having similar problems to others but with a difference. Since V6
> > has
> > come out of Windows Update on some servers in my network the download
> > fails
> > and in the windowsupdate.log I get :
> >
> > 2005-07-19 17:15:53 1000 184 DnldMgr WARNING: Download job failed because
> > of
> > proxy auth or server auth.
> > 2005-07-19 17:15:53 1000 184 DnldMgr Error 0x80244017 occurred while
> > downloading update; notifying dependent calls.
> >
> > on a particular machine I then manually installed the update for BITS and
> > WINHTTP (KB842773) with the hopes that it might help, now when I go to the
> > windows update site it is stuck on the screen saying "checking for the
> > latest updates", and I can now see in the Windowsupdate.log:
> >
> > 2005-07-19 17:25:10 1000 494 Misc WARNING: WinHttp:
> > SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x80190191
> > 2005-07-19 17:25:10 1000 494 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded
> > failed with 0x80190191
> >
> > However, I have other Windows 2003 servers where the dowloads and updates
> > work without a problem???
> >
> > I have added http://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
> > http://download.windowsupdate.com
> > http://update.microsoft.com
> > https://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
> > https://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
> >
> > to my Trusted list.
> >
> > I am using NetIQ Webmarshal as a proxy and the user account I am using has
> > rights to download and browse anything.
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Many Thanks
> >
> > Gillian

>
>

 
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Noel Paton
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      07-22-2005
(which is exactly the point that the KB makes, and tells you how to get
around!)



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"wtf" <> wrote in message
news:AE08EF81-F488-4D26-A1E0-...
> Hate to say it, but this is not true. There are ways to make it work.
> Consult
> the KB.
>
> All the best
> --
> H. Eberhard
> B&E Consulting
> Germany
>
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>> See:
>>
>> You cannot download updates when you access the Windows Update Web site
>> from
>> a Windows XP-based computer that is behind a firewall or a proxy server:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;896226
>>
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>>
>> Gillian wrote:
>> > Hi There
>> >
>> > I am having similar problems to others but with a difference. Since V6
>> > has
>> > come out of Windows Update on some servers in my network the download
>> > fails
>> > and in the windowsupdate.log I get :
>> >
>> > 2005-07-19 17:15:53 1000 184 DnldMgr WARNING: Download job failed
>> > because
>> > of
>> > proxy auth or server auth.
>> > 2005-07-19 17:15:53 1000 184 DnldMgr Error 0x80244017 occurred while
>> > downloading update; notifying dependent calls.
>> >
>> > on a particular machine I then manually installed the update for BITS
>> > and
>> > WINHTTP (KB842773) with the hopes that it might help, now when I go to
>> > the
>> > windows update site it is stuck on the screen saying "checking for the
>> > latest updates", and I can now see in the Windowsupdate.log:
>> >
>> > 2005-07-19 17:25:10 1000 494 Misc WARNING: WinHttp:
>> > SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x80190191
>> > 2005-07-19 17:25:10 1000 494 Misc WARNING: WinHttp:
>> > ShouldFileBeDownloaded
>> > failed with 0x80190191
>> >
>> > However, I have other Windows 2003 servers where the dowloads and
>> > updates
>> > work without a problem???
>> >
>> > I have added http://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
>> > http://download.windowsupdate.com
>> > http://update.microsoft.com
>> > https://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
>> > https://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
>> >
>> > to my Trusted list.
>> >
>> > I am using NetIQ Webmarshal as a proxy and the user account I am using
>> > has
>> > rights to download and browse anything.
>> >
>> > Any help would be appreciated.
>> >
>> > Many Thanks
>> >
>> > Gillian

>>
>>



 
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Charles Siegel
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      07-22-2005
Noel Paton wrote:
> (which is exactly the point that the KB makes, and tells you how to get
> around!)
>
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>
> "wtf" <> wrote in message
> news:AE08EF81-F488-4D26-A1E0-...
> > Hate to say it, but this is not true. There are ways to make it work.
> > Consult
> > the KB.
> >
> > All the best
> > --
> > H. Eberhard
> > B&E Consulting
> > Germany
> >
> >
> > "PA Bear" wrote:
> >
> >> See:
> >>
> >> You cannot download updates when you access the Windows Update Web site
> >> from
> >> a Windows XP-based computer that is behind a firewall or a proxy server:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;896226
> >>
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> >>
> >> Gillian wrote:
> >> > Hi There
> >> >
> >> > I am having similar problems to others but with a difference. Since V6
> >> > has
> >> > come out of Windows Update on some servers in my network the download
> >> > fails
> >> > and in the windowsupdate.log I get :
> >> >
> >> > 2005-07-19 17:15:53 1000 184 DnldMgr WARNING: Download job failed
> >> > because
> >> > of
> >> > proxy auth or server auth.
> >> > 2005-07-19 17:15:53 1000 184 DnldMgr Error 0x80244017 occurred while
> >> > downloading update; notifying dependent calls.
> >> >
> >> > on a particular machine I then manually installed the update for BITS
> >> > and
> >> > WINHTTP (KB842773) with the hopes that it might help, now when I go to
> >> > the
> >> > windows update site it is stuck on the screen saying "checking for the
> >> > latest updates", and I can now see in the Windowsupdate.log:
> >> >
> >> > 2005-07-19 17:25:10 1000 494 Misc WARNING: WinHttp:
> >> > SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x80190191
> >> > 2005-07-19 17:25:10 1000 494 Misc WARNING: WinHttp:
> >> > ShouldFileBeDownloaded
> >> > failed with 0x80190191
> >> >
> >> > However, I have other Windows 2003 servers where the dowloads and
> >> > updates
> >> > work without a problem???
> >> >
> >> > I have added http://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
> >> > http://download.windowsupdate.com
> >> > http://update.microsoft.com
> >> > https://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
> >> > https://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
> >> >
> >> > to my Trusted list.
> >> >
> >> > I am using NetIQ Webmarshal as a proxy and the user account I am using
> >> > has
> >> > rights to download and browse anything.
> >> >
> >> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Many Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Gillian
> >>
> >>



I'm having this problem with a newly installed Windows Server 2003 SP1
box, an older Windows Server 2003 install (not sp1), and an XP SP2
install.

Does anyone have any further information about this issue? I've just
spent the last 4 hours googling around trying to find a resolution, but
I haven't had any luck so far. I've tried everything in the above link
to no avail.

My traffic is being routed through tinyproxy for http traffic and a
socks proxy for everything else. Since we've implemented this setup,
windowsupdate v6 is the first app that I've had problems with. I can
even run WU v4 on W2K Pro with no problems.

I've figured out that the windows update service isn't actually using
the proxy. I deduceded this by using netstat -an and also capturing
packets using ethereal. It's attemping to go directly port 443 (https)
at the following addresses (which update.microsoft.com resolve to) :

64.4.21.93
207.46.157.30

What really gets me with this is that in the WindowsUpdate.log file I
have this (note: I've replaced all IP addresses w/ *):

+ ServiceId = {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77}, Server URL =
https://update.microsoft.com/v6/Clie...ce/client.asmx
WARNING: Send failed with hr = 80072ef1.
WARNING: SendRequest failed with hr = 80072ef1. Proxy List used:
<http=*.*.*.*:*;socks=*.*.*.*:*> Bypass List used : <*;*;*;*.*;<local>>
Auth Schemes used : <>
WARNING: Sync of Updates: 0x8024000b
WARNING: Exit code = 0x8024000B

So it says, "Hey I'm going to use these servers for proxies," but then
it never does. What is the deal with this? From my ethereal output, I
know for a fact it never even attempts to go to my proxy server.

If anyone has any insight on this it would be much appreciated. I'm
very close to just living with this and manually downloading the
updates I need.

Thanks

 
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      07-22-2005
Charles, please begin a new thread here regarding your problem and specific
circumstances, even if it sounds similar to the one in this thread. When
you piggyback onto an ongoing thread, chances are high that your post won't
be seen by those who might be most able to assist you.

Please see this page http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm and then post in a
new thread with the information we might use to assist you.

Thanks.
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MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security

Charles Siegel wrote:
<snip>
> I'm having this problem with a newly installed Windows Server 2003 SP1
> box, an older Windows Server 2003 install (not sp1), and an XP SP2
> install.
>
> Does anyone have any further information about this issue? I've just
> spent the last 4 hours googling around trying to find a resolution, but
> I haven't had any luck so far. I've tried everything in the above link
> to no avail.
>
> My traffic is being routed through tinyproxy for http traffic and a
> socks proxy for everything else. Since we've implemented this setup,
> windowsupdate v6 is the first app that I've had problems with. I can
> even run WU v4 on W2K Pro with no problems.
>
> I've figured out that the windows update service isn't actually using
> the proxy. I deduceded this by using netstat -an and also capturing
> packets using ethereal. It's attemping to go directly port 443 (https)
> at the following addresses (which update.microsoft.com resolve to) :
>
> 64.4.21.93
> 207.46.157.30
>
> What really gets me with this is that in the WindowsUpdate.log file I
> have this (note: I've replaced all IP addresses w/ *):
>
> + ServiceId = {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77}, Server URL =
> https://update.microsoft.com/v6/Clie...ce/client.asmx
> WARNING: Send failed with hr = 80072ef1.
> WARNING: SendRequest failed with hr = 80072ef1. Proxy List used:
> <http=*.*.*.*:*;socks=*.*.*.*:*> Bypass List used : <*;*;*;*.*;<local>>
> Auth Schemes used : <>
> WARNING: Sync of Updates: 0x8024000b
> WARNING: Exit code = 0x8024000B
>
> So it says, "Hey I'm going to use these servers for proxies," but then
> it never does. What is the deal with this? From my ethereal output, I
> know for a fact it never even attempts to go to my proxy server.
>
> If anyone has any insight on this it would be much appreciated. I'm
> very close to just living with this and manually downloading the
> updates I need.
>
> Thanks


 
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wtf
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      07-25-2005
Hi Charles,

did you check your security settings in IE for all the neccessary microsoft
URLs?
It is advisable to add the following URLs to your trusted zones:

http://download.windowsupdate.com
https://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
http://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
http://*.update.microsoft.com
http://*.download.microsoft.com

regards
H. Eberhard

--
H. Eberhard
B&E Consulting
Germany


"Charles Siegel" wrote:

>
> I'm having this problem with a newly installed Windows Server 2003 SP1
> box, an older Windows Server 2003 install (not sp1), and an XP SP2
> install.
>
> Does anyone have any further information about this issue? I've just
> spent the last 4 hours googling around trying to find a resolution, but
> I haven't had any luck so far. I've tried everything in the above link
> to no avail.
>
> My traffic is being routed through tinyproxy for http traffic and a
> socks proxy for everything else. Since we've implemented this setup,
> windowsupdate v6 is the first app that I've had problems with. I can
> even run WU v4 on W2K Pro with no problems.
>
> I've figured out that the windows update service isn't actually using
> the proxy. I deduceded this by using netstat -an and also capturing
> packets using ethereal. It's attemping to go directly port 443 (https)
> at the following addresses (which update.microsoft.com resolve to) :
>
> 64.4.21.93
> 207.46.157.30
>
> What really gets me with this is that in the WindowsUpdate.log file I
> have this (note: I've replaced all IP addresses w/ *):
>
> + ServiceId = {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77}, Server URL =
> https://update.microsoft.com/v6/Clie...ce/client.asmx
> WARNING: Send failed with hr = 80072ef1.
> WARNING: SendRequest failed with hr = 80072ef1. Proxy List used:
> <http=*.*.*.*:*;socks=*.*.*.*:*> Bypass List used : <*;*;*;*.*;<local>>
> Auth Schemes used : <>
> WARNING: Sync of Updates: 0x8024000b
> WARNING: Exit code = 0x8024000B
>
> So it says, "Hey I'm going to use these servers for proxies," but then
> it never does. What is the deal with this? From my ethereal output, I
> know for a fact it never even attempts to go to my proxy server.
>
> If anyone has any insight on this it would be much appreciated. I'm
> very close to just living with this and manually downloading the
> updates I need.
>
> Thanks
>
>

 
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