Can't access my own network

Gello. I've just bought a new computer with a Vista O/S. The one I had
before used W2K. I can access the internet through my broadband
connection but not the LAN I'm on. The other computers can see me but
I can't see any of them.

I'm using the same TCP/IP particulars as the ones I used with W2K.

What change do I need to make?

Thanks for any help.

Jon

On your Vista computer, change the workgroup name to the same one that the
other LAN computers are using.

In Vista Network, Networking and Sharing:
Network Discovery: ON
File sharing: ON
Public Folder Sharing: ON
Password Protected Sharing: OFF

This is the way I do it for Vista and XP home network.
Also, have a look at this link:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx




"Jon" wrote:

> Gello. I've just bought a new computer with a Vista O/S. The one I had
> before used W2K. I can access the internet through my broadband
> connection but not the LAN I'm on. The other computers can see me but
> I can't see any of them.
>
> I'm using the same TCP/IP particulars as the ones I used with W2K.
>
> What change do I need to make?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Jon
>
>

On Jun 23, 10:44 am, Mick <M...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> On your Vista computer, change the workgroup name to the same one that the
> other LAN computers are using.
>
> In Vista Network, Networking and Sharing:
> Network Discovery: ON
> File sharing: ON
> Public Folder Sharing: ON
> Password Protected Sharing: OFF
>
> This is the way I do it for Vista and XP home network.
> Also, have a look at this link:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
>
>
>
> "Jon" wrote:
> > Gello. I've just bought a new computer with a Vista O/S. The one I had
> > before used W2K. I can access the internet through my broadband
> > connection but not the LAN I'm on. The other computers can see me but
> > I can't see any of them.
>
> > I'm using the same TCP/IP particulars as the ones I used with W2K.
>
> > What change do I need to make?
>
> > Thanks for any help.
>
> > Jon- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank you for this. However, it hasn't worked. I'm wondering whether
the problem might be due to international differences. The network is
Spanish but this computer was bought in Scotland.

Ca you suggest anything else?

Jon
..

"Jon" wrote:

> On Jun 23, 10:44 am, Mick <M...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > On your Vista computer, change the workgroup name to the same one that the
> > other LAN computers are using.
> >
> > In Vista Network, Networking and Sharing:
> > Network Discovery: ON
> > File sharing: ON
> > Public Folder Sharing: ON
> > Password Protected Sharing: OFF
> >
> > This is the way I do it for Vista and XP home network.
> > Also, have a look at this link:
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jon" wrote:
> > > Gello. I've just bought a new computer with a Vista O/S. The one I had
> > > before used W2K. I can access the internet through my broadband
> > > connection but not the LAN I'm on. The other computers can see me but
> > > I can't see any of them.
> >
> > > I'm using the same TCP/IP particulars as the ones I used with W2K.
> >
> > > What change do I need to make?
> >
> > > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > > Jon- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thank you for this. However, it hasn't worked. I'm wondering whether
> the problem might be due to international differences. The network is
> Spanish but this computer was bought in Scotland.
>
> Ca you suggest anything else?
>

Can you ping the other PC's on the network? Can they ping you?
Is the Window firewall on ? is any firewall on. Some MB's have firewalls
built into the NIC chipset. Make sure it is also off if you have one of those
chip set (nividia you will have to install the software for it as it isn't
installed by default) <-- this was s big problem for me at one point in my
life ;-)

Are you connecting through a domain controller or just a work group?

> Jon
> ..
>
>

Jon wrote:
> On Jun 23, 10:44 am, Mick <M...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> On your Vista computer, change the workgroup name to the same one that the
>> other LAN computers are using.
>>
>> In Vista Network, Networking and Sharing:
>> Network Discovery: ON
>> File sharing: ON
>> Public Folder Sharing: ON
>> Password Protected Sharing: OFF
>>
>> This is the way I do it for Vista and XP home network.
>> Also, have a look at this link:
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jon" wrote:
>>> Gello. I've just bought a new computer with a Vista O/S. The one I had
>>> before used W2K. I can access the internet through my broadband
>>> connection but not the LAN I'm on. The other computers can see me but
>>> I can't see any of them.
>>> I'm using the same TCP/IP particulars as the ones I used with W2K.
>>> What change do I need to make?
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>> Jon- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Thank you for this. However, it hasn't worked. I'm wondering whether
> the problem might be due to international differences. The network is
> Spanish but this computer was bought in Scotland.

The language of the various operating systems on the different computers
has nothing to do with being able to network them. See the following
cut/paste for a network setup guide. Not everything in it may be
applicable to your situation, but since you didn't really give us much
information about your computers or your network setup I am including
the whole thing to be thorough:

****
This link will take you through Vista networking very well:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally
caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two
firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party
firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on
all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating
system does not permit it.

Here are some general networking tips for home/small networks:

1. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network
(LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing
File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network
Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only
"gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you
aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with
"Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a
firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually
configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
subnet. Do not run more than one firewall.

2. With earlier Microsoft operating systems, the name of the Workgroup
didn't matter. Apparently it does with Vista, so put all computers in
the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control
Panel, Computer Name tab.

3. Create identical user accounts and passwords on all machines. If you
wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular
user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at
this link work for both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

4. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center:

a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
accounts/passwords on all computers.

b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the
Simple File Sharing enabled.

Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means
that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its
resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it matters
in your situation.

I think it is a good idea to create the identical user
accounts/passwords in any case when Vista machines are involved and it
isn't an onerous task with home/small networks.

5. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share
folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the
Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about
Vista sharing.
*****


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

On Jun 23, 1:54 pm, bp <b...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Jon" wrote:
> > On Jun 23, 10:44 am, Mick <M...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > On your Vista computer, change the workgroup name to the same one that the
> > > other LAN computers are using.
>
> > > In Vista Network, Networking and Sharing:
> > > Network Discovery: ON
> > > File sharing: ON
> > > Public Folder Sharing: ON
> > > Password Protected Sharing: OFF
>
> > > This is the way I do it for Vista and XP home network.
> > > Also, have a look at this link:
>
> > >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
>
> > > "Jon" wrote:
> > > > Gello. I've just bought a new computer with a Vista O/S. The one I had
> > > > before used W2K. I can access the internet through my broadband
> > > > connection but not the LAN I'm on. The other computers can see me but
> > > > I can't see any of them.
>
> > > > I'm using the same TCP/IP particulars as the ones I used with W2K.
>
> > > > What change do I need to make?
>
> > > > Thanks for any help.
>
> > > > Jon- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Thank you for this. However, it hasn't worked. I'm wondering whether
> > the problem might be due to international differences. The network is
> > Spanish but this computer was bought in Scotland.
>
> > Ca you suggest anything else?
>
> Can you ping the other PC's on the network?

Yes.

Can they ping you?
> Is the Window firewall on ?

No.


is any firewall on.

Yes, but even if I switch it off, I still can't see them.

Some MB's have firewalls
> built into the NIC chipset. Make sure it is also off if you have one of those
> chip set (nividia you will have to install the software for it as it isn't
> installed by default) <-- this was s big problem for me at one point in my
> life ;-)

How do I check all of this?


>
> Are you connecting through a domain controller or just a work group?

A workgroup, I'm fairly sure.

>
>
>
> > Jon
> > ..- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Jun 23, 2:41 pm, Jon <jon.holmw...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 1:54 pm, bp <b...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Jon" wrote:
> > > On Jun 23, 10:44 am, Mick <M...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > On your Vista computer, change the workgroup name to the same one that the
> > > > other LAN computers are using.
>
> > > > In Vista Network, Networking and Sharing:
> > > > Network Discovery: ON
> > > > File sharing: ON
> > > > Public Folder Sharing: ON
> > > > Password Protected Sharing: OFF
>
> > > > This is the way I do it for Vista and XP home network.
> > > > Also, have a look at this link:
>
> > > >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
>
> > > > "Jon" wrote:
> > > > > Gello. I've just bought a new computer with a Vista O/S. The one I had
> > > > > before used W2K. I can access the internet through my broadband
> > > > > connection but not the LAN I'm on. The other computers can see me but
> > > > > I can't see any of them.
>
> > > > > I'm using the same TCP/IP particulars as the ones I used with W2K.
>
> > > > > What change do I need to make?
>
> > > > > Thanks for any help.
>
> > > > > Jon- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Thank you for this. However, it hasn't worked. I'm wondering whether
> > > the problem might be due to international differences. The network is
> > > Spanish but this computer was bought in Scotland.
>
> > > Ca you suggest anything else?
>
> > Can you ping the other PC's on the network?
>
> Yes.
>
> Can they ping you?
>
> > Is the Window firewall on ?
>
> No.
>
> is any firewall on.
>
> Yes, but even if I switch it off, I still can't see them.
>
> Some MB's have firewalls
>
> > built into the NIC chipset. Make sure it is also off if you have one of those
> > chip set (nividia you will have to install the software for it as it isn't
> > installed by default) <-- this was s big problem for me at one point in my
> > life ;-)
>
> How do I check all of this?
>
>
>
> > Are you connecting through a domain controller or just a work group?
>
> A workgroup, I'm fairly sure.
>

Sorry to have been vague. I wasnt exactly sure what a domain was.

Could the following be relevant?

I bought a Rimax external disk yesterday. I connected it up and
transferred a few files. I disconnected it, but this morning I
couldn't see it any longer. I've tried rebooting the machine, but it
won't reappear. When I switch it on, I can hear a blip, and there's a
brief suggestion of an icon where it should be, but that's all. I've
tested the disk on a different computer and it works fine.

Could these two problems be related?

Thanks.

Jon

On Jun 23, 1:54 pm, bp <b...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Jon" wrote:
> > On Jun 23, 10:44 am, Mick <M...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > On your Vista computer, change the workgroup name to the same one that the
> > > other LAN computers are using.
>
> > > In Vista Network, Networking and Sharing:
> > > Network Discovery: ON
> > > File sharing: ON
> > > Public Folder Sharing: ON
> > > Password Protected Sharing: OFF
>
> > > This is the way I do it for Vista and XP home network.
> > > Also, have a look at this link:
>
> > >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
>
> > > "Jon" wrote:
> > > > Gello. I've just bought a new computer with a Vista O/S. The one I had
> > > > before used W2K. I can access the internet through my broadband
> > > > connection but not the LAN I'm on. The other computers can see me but
> > > > I can't see any of them.
>
> > > > I'm using the same TCP/IP particulars as the ones I used with W2K.
>
> > > > What change do I need to make?
>
> > > > Thanks for any help.
>
> > > > Jon- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Thank you for this. However, it hasn't worked. I'm wondering whether
> > the problem might be due to international differences. The network is
> > Spanish but this computer was bought in Scotland.
>
> > Ca you suggest anything else?
>
> Can you ping the other PC's on the network? Can they ping you?
> Is the Window firewall on ? is any firewall on. Some MB's have firewalls
> built into the NIC chipset. Make sure it is also off if you have one of those
> chip set (nividia you will have to install the software for it as it isn't
> installed by default) <-- this was s big problem for me at one point in my
> life ;-)
>
> Are you connecting through a domain controller or just a work group?
>
>
>
> > Jon
> > ..- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I must have made a mistake yesterday. On re-doing the pings, I find my
computer can ping the other one on the network (the third is now
switched off), but that computer can't ping me. On the other hand, it
can see me, but I can't see it.

What does this indicate?

Thanks for your help.

Jon

Jon wrote:
> ...
> I must have made a mistake yesterday. On re-doing the pings, I find my
> computer can ping the other one on the network (the third is now
> switched off), but that computer can't ping me. On the other hand, it
> can see me, but I can't see it.

Hm. I assume you are doing the pinging from a command line? If yes,
exactly what are you typing as the address to ping? (A DNS problem?)