Can't hook my midi keyboard with Vista.

Hi,

I have a Casio keyboard I can transfer midi songs to. I now have a
laptop with Vista and are not able to set it to to transfer the songs
like I did on XP. I then poke around a little and find this on
Wikipedia:

"The ability to choose a different hardware or software MIDI
synthesizer other than the default Microsoft GS Wavetable Software
synth has been removed from the user interface for audio configuration
in Windows Vista. A different output MIDI synth or output device port
can be selected only by editing the registry."

How on earth are people now going to be able to hook up their midi
devices when you will have to edit the registry to do so? There must be
room here for third party midi configuration software, but I am not
able to find any.

Am I missing something here, or am I simply out of luck with my
keyboard on Vista?

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//ceed

What are you using as your MIDI interface? I have a Presonus Firepod,
and I can run all my MIDI gear though it. I'm using Vista x64 with no
issues? When you mean transfer you are talking about driving your MIDI
keyboard with your computer right? Mabye I'm not understanding you
correct? Also, what software are you using?


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Technogeek

Technogeek wrote:

|
|What are you using as your MIDI interface? I have a Presonus Firepod,
|and I can run all my MIDI gear though it. I'm using Vista x64 with no
|issues? When you mean transfer you are talking about driving your MIDI
|keyboard with your computer right? Mabye I'm not understanding you
|correct? Also, what software are you using?

I am transferring songs which are converted from midi to a proprietary
Casio format to the keyboard. The converter is installed on the
computer. The Casio manual tells me to set "CASIO USB OUT 1" as default
for "Midi Music Playback" in the sound settings in Control Panel.
However, there are no midi setting in Vista, and according to Wikipedia
these settings have been removed.

I am not a midi expert at all, but this was easy in XP. In Vista I have
no clue how to do it since I am not able to alter the Midi Music
Playback settings.

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//ceed

You are correct...

That's why people who create music DON'T DO IT IN VISTA!

Lol if you read forums of music creators you will see what I mean..

they absolutely hate vista and have remained with XP.
I dont make music in vista.. its too slow anyway for my taste.

I think you sould consider dual booting with XP or at least install a
virtual machine
with USB support with XP in it to do your transferes..




"ceed" <> wrote in message
news: ...
> Technogeek wrote:
>
> |
> |What are you using as your MIDI interface? I have a Presonus Firepod,
> |and I can run all my MIDI gear though it. I'm using Vista x64 with no
> |issues? When you mean transfer you are talking about driving your MIDI
> |keyboard with your computer right? Mabye I'm not understanding you
> |correct? Also, what software are you using?
>
> I am transferring songs which are converted from midi to a proprietary
> Casio format to the keyboard. The converter is installed on the
> computer. The Casio manual tells me to set "CASIO USB OUT 1" as default
> for "Midi Music Playback" in the sound settings in Control Panel.
> However, there are no midi setting in Vista, and according to Wikipedia
> these settings have been removed.
>
> I am not a midi expert at all, but this was easy in XP. In Vista I have
> no clue how to do it since I am not able to alter the Midi Music
> Playback settings.
>
> --
> //ceed

non flammable on XP wrote:

|You are correct...
|
|That's why people who create music DON'T DO IT IN VISTA!
|
|Lol if you read forums of music creators you will see what I mean..
|
|they absolutely hate vista and have remained with XP.
|I dont make music in vista.. its too slow anyway for my taste.
|
|I think you sould consider dual booting with XP or at least install a
|virtual machine with USB support with XP in it to do your transferes..
|

Well, I do not do much music, but I do want to transfer these songs.
Why on earth did MS disable these settings? I can't see any good
reasons for it. I actually like Vista for most of what I do. Thank you
for the virtual machine tip, I will look into that.

Sometimes MS just doesn't make sense to me. This is one of those
times...

--
//ceed

I dont remember if VPC has USB support (perhaps someone here might remind us
all) but I have seen that
virtualbox does support USB

and its free www.virtualbox.org/



"ceed" <> wrote in message
news: ...
> non flammable on XP wrote:
>
> |You are correct...
> |
> |That's why people who create music DON'T DO IT IN VISTA!
> |
> |Lol if you read forums of music creators you will see what I mean..
> |
> |they absolutely hate vista and have remained with XP.
> |I dont make music in vista.. its too slow anyway for my taste.
> |
> |I think you sould consider dual booting with XP or at least install a
> |virtual machine with USB support with XP in it to do your transferes..
> |
>
> Well, I do not do much music, but I do want to transfer these songs.
> Why on earth did MS disable these settings? I can't see any good
> reasons for it. I actually like Vista for most of what I do. Thank you
> for the virtual machine tip, I will look into that.
>
> Sometimes MS just doesn't make sense to me. This is one of those
> times...
>
> --
> //ceed

Well, I understand why you can't transfer your songs to your keyboard,
but I make a lot of muisc with Sonar 6 Pro, and never had any issues
with my Vista x64 being slow or not working for me.

If all your wanting to do is send a few songs to your keyboard, then
the duel booting with XP or VM is a great idea, but if plan on doing
some MIDI/Audio recording, then invest in a good interface. I have
recorded a gutiar, keyboard and a sax player while playing MIDI through
a second keyboard, into my mixer, and back into my computer with no
problems.

The only issue I've found is drivers for Sonar 6 Pro, and Firepod were
slow to desgin for x64 OS's, but they have fixed that now.


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Technogeek

On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:48:10 +0200, non flammable on XP wrote:

> I dont remember if VPC has USB support (perhaps someone here might
> remind us all) but I have seen that
> virtualbox does support USB
>
> and its free www.virtualbox.org/

VMWare Server is free and comes with USB support.

Technogeek wrote:

|
|Well, I understand why you can't transfer your songs to your keyboard,
|but I make a lot of muisc with Sonar 6 Pro, and never had any issues
|with my Vista x64 being slow or not working for me.
|
|If all your wanting to do is send a few songs to your keyboard, then
|the duel booting with XP or VM is a great idea, but if plan on doing
|some MIDI/Audio recording, then invest in a good interface. I have
|recorded a gutiar, keyboard and a sax player while playing MIDI
|through a second keyboard, into my mixer, and back into my computer
|with no problems.
|
|The only issue I've found is drivers for Sonar 6 Pro, and Firepod were
|slow to desgin for x64 OS's, but they have fixed that now.

But what if you need to change your midi interfaces? Then you'll be
stuck since it's not possible to set that anymore. I still think this
is a very strange thing to do by MS and do not see any reason for it.
It's the first major flaw I've found in Vista. Lucky me, right?

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//ceed

Finally I found someone with the same issue. I have the same problem trying
to hook up my new Vista laptop with my Roland Digital Piano. Piece of cake
with my old XP laptop. What a stupid thing for Microsoft to do. Did you
find a simple solution? I'm not a computer geek. Do you know how to edit
the registry without destroying anything? I don't want to do any of this dual
booting or virtual machine stuff.

Thanks,

Colin

"ceed" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a Casio keyboard I can transfer midi songs to. I now have a
> laptop with Vista and are not able to set it to to transfer the songs
> like I did on XP. I then poke around a little and find this on
> Wikipedia:
>
> "The ability to choose a different hardware or software MIDI
> synthesizer other than the default Microsoft GS Wavetable Software
> synth has been removed from the user interface for audio configuration
> in Windows Vista. A different output MIDI synth or output device port
> can be selected only by editing the registry."
>
> How on earth are people now going to be able to hook up their midi
> devices when you will have to edit the registry to do so? There must be
> room here for third party midi configuration software, but I am not
> able to find any.
>
> Am I missing something here, or am I simply out of luck with my
> keyboard on Vista?
>
> --
> //ceed
>