Can't rename a folder

This sounds like one of those Vista curses.

I'm the sole new user of a home media center PC running Vista 64 bit
ultimate.
Privileges are of absolutely zero concern.

So I try to rename a folder, call it MainFolder located in UserName | Music
and which contains numerous subfolders created by Windows Media Player 11.

I can rename the subfolders with no problem. But today, for the first time
I tried to rename the MainFolder. I get a warning that I need permission,
and to try again (which does nothing).

I right click the folder's properties and see that the read-only attribute
is checked (not by me). I uncheck it and try renaming again. Same result,
and
on my returning to Properties, the read only box is miraculously rechecked.

I click on Properties | Security and see that all are checked "Allow" except
special permissions, which is blank

I click Advanced, and in the resulting Permissions tab I see the following:

Name Permission

WMP Network Service Full control
WMP Network Service Read
Username Full Control

Anyhow, All I want is For Vista to allow me or anyone using the computer to
be able to use it without requiring passwords, secret handshakes, etc...

Please advise.

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PT

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:00:22 -0700, "PT" <> wrote:

>This sounds like one of those Vista curses.
>
>I'm the sole new user of a home media center PC running Vista 64 bit
>ultimate.
>Privileges are of absolutely zero concern.
>
>So I try to rename a folder, call it MainFolder located in UserName | Music
>and which contains numerous subfolders created by Windows Media Player 11.
>
>I can rename the subfolders with no problem. But today, for the first time
>I tried to rename the MainFolder. I get a warning that I need permission,
>and to try again (which does nothing).
>
>I right click the folder's properties and see that the read-only attribute
>is checked (not by me). I uncheck it and try renaming again. Same result,
>and
>on my returning to Properties, the read only box is miraculously rechecked.
>
>I click on Properties | Security and see that all are checked "Allow" except
>special permissions, which is blank
>
>I click Advanced, and in the resulting Permissions tab I see the following:
>
>Name Permission
>
>WMP Network Service Full control
>WMP Network Service Read
>Username Full Control
>
>Anyhow, All I want is For Vista to allow me or anyone using the computer to
>be able to use it without requiring passwords, secret handshakes, etc...
>
>Please advise.

Just out of curiosity have you tried creating another folder at the same level
as the one you can't rename and then try renaming that one?

Did you try the Attrib command at the command prompt?

"PT" <> wrote in message
news:...
> This sounds like one of those Vista curses.
>
> I'm the sole new user of a home media center PC running Vista 64 bit
> ultimate.
> Privileges are of absolutely zero concern.
>
> So I try to rename a folder, call it MainFolder located in UserName |
> Music
> and which contains numerous subfolders created by Windows Media Player 11.
>
> I can rename the subfolders with no problem. But today, for the first
> time
> I tried to rename the MainFolder. I get a warning that I need permission,
> and to try again (which does nothing).
>
> I right click the folder's properties and see that the read-only attribute
> is checked (not by me). I uncheck it and try renaming again. Same
> result, and
> on my returning to Properties, the read only box is miraculously
> rechecked.
>
> I click on Properties | Security and see that all are checked "Allow"
> except
> special permissions, which is blank
>
> I click Advanced, and in the resulting Permissions tab I see the
> following:
>
> Name Permission
>
> WMP Network Service Full control
> WMP Network Service Read
> Username Full Control
>
> Anyhow, All I want is For Vista to allow me or anyone using the computer
> to
> be able to use it without requiring passwords, secret handshakes, etc...
>
> Please advise.
>
> --
>
> PT
>
>
>

But I created the folder in question, not Microsoft - So what I'd like to
learn is how I can eliminate globally all permission limitations, so I can
live life as on my Windows XP Home machine.

--

PT
"merkat106" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Sounds like one of those folders that Microsoft won't let you do
> anything with except open it. You do not need to worry as long as you
> can modify the contents of that folder.
>
>
> --
> merkat106

There's no easy way for me to get to the command prompt and enter the long
multi-level string for the file name.

--

PT
"Bob Campbell" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Did you try the Attrib command at the command prompt?
>
> "PT" <> wrote in message
> news:...

PT wrote:

> I right click the folder's properties and see that the read-only attribute
> is checked (not by me). I uncheck it and try renaming again. Same result,
> and
> on my returning to Properties, the read only box is miraculously rechecked.

The Read-only attribute has no effect on whether you can read, write or
rename NTFS folders. Attributes are a legacy of the old FAT file system
and are mainly there for compatibility on NTFS. Explorer uses the
superfluous read-only attribute for a totally unrelated purpose, to
track whether a Folder has been customised. This applies to XP and
Vista. See this Microsoft KnowledgeBase article for details:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326549

> I click on Properties | Security and see that all are checked "Allow" except
> special permissions, which is blank
>
> I click Advanced, and in the resulting Permissions tab I see the following:
>
> Name Permission
>
> WMP Network Service Full control
> WMP Network Service Read
> Username Full Control

The "WMP Network Service" user context suggests that you have some kind
of media extender running - maybe Windows Media Centre, or XBox? That
service is possibly keeping the folder locked, so you can't rename it;
or may have taken ownership of the folder. To check your own effective
permissions, go to the Properties, Security tab and hit the Advanced
button, down the bottom of the panel. Then select the Effective
Permissions tab. Enter your own user ID and see what it reports. Also
look under the Owner tab, to make sure you are indeed the owner of the
folder.

If you are not the owner, take ownership. If you are the owner of the
folder, next thing would be to turn off the WMP Network Service, while
you rename the folder.

I don't have any media extenders installed, so I can't tell you exactly
how to do that ... but I hope it'll be kind of obvious (famous last
words :-)

Hope it helps,

Andrew
--
amclar at optusnet dot com dot au

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:51:03 -0700, "PT" <> wrote:

>There's no easy way for me to get to the command prompt and enter the long
>multi-level string for the file name.

No easy way? It's not hard either though is it.

PT <> wrote:
>>
>> Did you try the Attrib command at the command prompt?
>>
>
> There's no easy way for me to get to the command prompt and enter the
> long multi-level string for the file name.
>


You can shift-right-click a file to get a context menu entry to copy the
full path into the clipboard.

ss.

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:51:03 -0700, "PT" <> wrote:

>There's no easy way for me to get to the command prompt and enter the long
>multi-level string for the file name.

Did you try a reboot after fixing the priv's? I've had Vista throw
error messages after being sure I had the priv's correct. A reboot
cured it. Evidently it caches some of that info somewhere, at some
point.

If it's not already obvious, I'm a brand new user of a Vista computer. I've
used XP Home for years.
My XP computer's "Documents and Settings" folders lists the following users:

Administrators
All Users
Compaq Owner
Default User
LocalService
Network Service

When I right click any XP folder, there are no screens for setting up
permissions

OK - Here's what I'd like:

To change my Vista setup so there is just one and only one user with global
permissions. In other words, bypass all the security settings which may be
appropriate for a machine in a larger network.

Is there a simple way to accomplish this?

--

PT
"PT" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> But I created the folder in question, not Microsoft - So what I'd like to
> learn is how I can eliminate globally all permission limitations, so I can
> live life as on my Windows XP Home machine.
>
> --
>
> PT
> "merkat106" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> Sounds like one of those folders that Microsoft won't let you do
>> anything with except open it. You do not need to worry as long as you
>> can modify the contents of that folder.
>>
>>
>> --
>> merkat106
>
>