Can't search DVD drive

When I highlight (select) my DVD RW Drive (F and do a search for a file
that I know is on the disc, it comes up "not found." If I search the folder
on the disc which contains the file, it is found. So it appears I'm unable
to search the disc as a whole, but instead must select individual folders
within the disc to search. Is it possible this is really how search is
designed in Vista? I can put the same disc in an XP machine and immediately
find the file by searching the disc as a whole.

Am I doing something wrong?

A common p�oblem with an easy solution described here:

<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314060>


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"C. Roy Blye" wrote:

> When I highlight (select) my DVD RW Drive (F and do a search for a file
> that I know is on the disc, it comes up "not found." If I search the folder
> on the disc which contains the file, it is found. So it appears I'm unable
> to search the disc as a whole, but instead must select individual folders
> within the disc to search. Is it possible this is really how search is
> designed in Vista? I can put the same disc in an XP machine and immediately
> find the file by searching the disc as a whole.
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
>

On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:28:08 -0400, "C. Roy Blye" <>
wrote:

>When I highlight (select) my DVD RW Drive (F and do a search for a file
>that I know is on the disc, it comes up "not found." If I search the folder
>on the disc which contains the file, it is found. So it appears I'm unable
>to search the disc as a whole, but instead must select individual folders
>within the disc to search. Is it possible this is really how search is
>designed in Vista? I can put the same disc in an XP machine and immediately
>find the file by searching the disc as a whole.
>
>Am I doing something wrong?

Hello Roy,

In the Search tab of the Folder Options dialog, is the item "include sub
folders when typing in the search box" checked?

Doug M. in NJ

Hi Doug,

Yes, sub folders is checked.

Roy

"Retroman" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:28:08 -0400, "C. Roy Blye" <>
> wrote:
>
>>When I highlight (select) my DVD RW Drive (F and do a search for a file
>>that I know is on the disc, it comes up "not found." If I search the
>>folder
>>on the disc which contains the file, it is found. So it appears I'm unable
>>to search the disc as a whole, but instead must select individual folders
>>within the disc to search. Is it possible this is really how search is
>>designed in Vista? I can put the same disc in an XP machine and
>>immediately
>>find the file by searching the disc as a whole.
>>
>>Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Hello Roy,
>
> In the Search tab of the Folder Options dialog, is the item "include sub
> folders when typing in the search box" checked?
>
> Doug M. in NJ

This is going to sound like the most ridiculous elementary question, but how
do I access the advanced search options? I've been there many times, but the
only way I can recall getting there is after doing a non-advanced search, a
link appears to access the advanced search. However, it isn't doing that in
the present situation in which I'm trying to search the DVD drive. I think
I've also seen a button for search options on folder toolbars, but it's not
there now. This is very frustrating.


"C. Roy Blye" <> wrote in message
news:308F7A67-7E51-4F14-A987-...
> When I highlight (select) my DVD RW Drive (F and do a search for a file
> that I know is on the disc, it comes up "not found." If I search the
> folder on the disc which contains the file, it is found. So it appears I'm
> unable to search the disc as a whole, but instead must select individual
> folders within the disc to search. Is it possible this is really how
> search is designed in Vista? I can put the same disc in an XP machine and
> immediately find the file by searching the disc as a whole.
>
> Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks. I ran the program and it did not find any problems, so, of course,
it didn't fix the problem. I should note that I don't have a problem reading
or writing to the DVD drive; it's only a search-related problem.

Here's a bit more specific description of the problem:
When I search a CD as a whole for a "naked" file (a file not in a folder),
it will find the file.
When I search a CD as a whole for a folder, it will find the folder.
When I search a CD as a whole for a file in a folder, it will not find the
file.
When I search the folder containing the file, it will find the file.
When I search a folder containing a subfolder containing the file, it will
not find the file.

BTW, I ran a search of a flash drive as a whole, and there was no problem
finding the specified file. The problem seems to be specific to my DVD
drive.

"Ǝиçεl" <> wrote in message
news:61EDC896-FF15-46B6-B7A1-...
>
> A common p�oblem with an easy solution described here:
>
> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314060>
>
>
> Ǝиçεl
> ◕‿◕
> -=-
>
> "C. Roy Blye" wrote:
>
>> When I highlight (select) my DVD RW Drive (F and do a search for a file
>> that I know is on the disc, it comes up "not found." If I search the
>> folder
>> on the disc which contains the file, it is found. So it appears I'm
>> unable
>> to search the disc as a whole, but instead must select individual folders
>> within the disc to search. Is it possible this is really how search is
>> designed in Vista? I can put the same disc in an XP machine and
>> immediately
>> find the file by searching the disc as a whole.
>>
>> Am I doing something wrong?
>>

On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:34:52 -0400, "C. Roy Blye" <>
wrote:

>Hi Doug,
>
>Yes, sub folders is checked.
>
>Roy
>
>"Retroman" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:28:08 -0400, "C. Roy Blye" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>When I highlight (select) my DVD RW Drive (F and do a search for a file
>>>that I know is on the disc, it comes up "not found." If I search the
>>>folder
>>>on the disc which contains the file, it is found. So it appears I'm unable
>>>to search the disc as a whole, but instead must select individual folders
>>>within the disc to search. Is it possible this is really how search is
>>>designed in Vista? I can put the same disc in an XP machine and
>>>immediately
>>>find the file by searching the disc as a whole.
>>>
>>>Am I doing something wrong?
>>
>> Hello Roy,
>>
>> In the Search tab of the Folder Options dialog, is the item "include sub
>> folders when typing in the search box" checked?
>>
>> Doug M. in NJ

Roy,

> ...how do I access the advanced search options?

If you mean the advanced search pane, press Win key + F, then click the
Advanced button on the right of the menu bar.

> The problem seems to be specific to my DVD drive.

That is unusual. It would be helpful if you could you post an example
query that fails from the root of the drive. The syntax is completely
different now and using the old-style queries will give erratic results.

Have you tried different types of queries? For example, what happens if
you search by extension from the DVD root for files known to be in sub
folders? To return files by extension, try this, with whatever extension
is appropriate after the colon:

ext:doc

Don't include a dot or wildcard characters (those are rarely needed now
and they work differently)

Doug M. in NJ

Doug,

"If you mean the advanced search pane, press Win key + F, then click the
Advanced button on the right of the menu bar."

Excuse me, but you gotta be sh!tting! How exactly was I supposed to find
that if you hadn't told me?
With 95, 98, 2000, &XP, you search with a right click on the start button.
So, of course, it makes complete sense that with Vista you press Win key +
F, then click the Advanced button on the right of the menu bar. I really do
dislike all the gratuitous Vista-bashing that goes on in the newsgroup, but
stuff like this might make me a convert! Geez, what crap!

Searching with ext:html yields 2 finds, both "naked" (not in folders) on the
DVD drive. There are 272 more html files in folders on the disc which were
not found.

Now get this: now that I know how to access advanced search, I am able to
find all the files on the DVD drive easily. All I did was pick the DVD drive
from the location dropdown list in advanced search and then search using the
same search term that failed when I selected the location from the explore
pane on the left side of the window. Go figure.

Well, you have been very helpful in solving my problem, and I thank you very
much! The experience hasn't endeared me to Vista, though, sorry to say.

Thanks again,
Roy

"Retroman" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:34:52 -0400, "C. Roy Blye" <>
> wrote:
>
>>Hi Doug,
>>
>>Yes, sub folders is checked.
>>
>>Roy
>>
>>"Retroman" <> wrote in message
>>news:. ..
>>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:28:08 -0400, "C. Roy Blye"
>>> <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>When I highlight (select) my DVD RW Drive (F and do a search for a
>>>>file
>>>>that I know is on the disc, it comes up "not found." If I search the
>>>>folder
>>>>on the disc which contains the file, it is found. So it appears I'm
>>>>unable
>>>>to search the disc as a whole, but instead must select individual
>>>>folders
>>>>within the disc to search. Is it possible this is really how search is
>>>>designed in Vista? I can put the same disc in an XP machine and
>>>>immediately
>>>>find the file by searching the disc as a whole.
>>>>
>>>>Am I doing something wrong?
>>>
>>> Hello Roy,
>>>
>>> In the Search tab of the Folder Options dialog, is the item "include sub
>>> folders when typing in the search box" checked?
>>>
>>> Doug M. in NJ
>
> Roy,
>
>> ...how do I access the advanced search options?
>
> If you mean the advanced search pane, press Win key + F, then click the
> Advanced button on the right of the menu bar.
>
>> The problem seems to be specific to my DVD drive.
>
> That is unusual. It would be helpful if you could you post an example
> query that fails from the root of the drive. The syntax is completely
> different now and using the old-style queries will give erratic results.
>
> Have you tried different types of queries? For example, what happens if
> you search by extension from the DVD root for files known to be in sub
> folders? To return files by extension, try this, with whatever extension
> is appropriate after the colon:
>
> ext:doc
>
> Don't include a dot or wildcard characters (those are rarely needed now
> and they work differently)
>
> Doug M. in NJ

I posted a reply to Doug's message and it seems to have disappeared. Does
anyone know what happened to it?

crb

"Retroman" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:34:52 -0400, "C. Roy Blye" <>
> wrote:
>
>>Hi Doug,
>>
>>Yes, sub folders is checked.
>>
>>Roy
>>
>>"Retroman" <> wrote in message
>>news:. ..
>>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:28:08 -0400, "C. Roy Blye"
>>> <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>When I highlight (select) my DVD RW Drive (F and do a search for a
>>>>file
>>>>that I know is on the disc, it comes up "not found." If I search the
>>>>folder
>>>>on the disc which contains the file, it is found. So it appears I'm
>>>>unable
>>>>to search the disc as a whole, but instead must select individual
>>>>folders
>>>>within the disc to search. Is it possible this is really how search is
>>>>designed in Vista? I can put the same disc in an XP machine and
>>>>immediately
>>>>find the file by searching the disc as a whole.
>>>>
>>>>Am I doing something wrong?
>>>
>>> Hello Roy,
>>>
>>> In the Search tab of the Folder Options dialog, is the item "include sub
>>> folders when typing in the search box" checked?
>>>
>>> Doug M. in NJ
>
> Roy,
>
>> ...how do I access the advanced search options?
>
> If you mean the advanced search pane, press Win key + F, then click the
> Advanced button on the right of the menu bar.
>
>> The problem seems to be specific to my DVD drive.
>
> That is unusual. It would be helpful if you could you post an example
> query that fails from the root of the drive. The syntax is completely
> different now and using the old-style queries will give erratic results.
>
> Have you tried different types of queries? For example, what happens if
> you search by extension from the DVD root for files known to be in sub
> folders? To return files by extension, try this, with whatever extension
> is appropriate after the colon:
>
> ext:doc
>
> Don't include a dot or wildcard characters (those are rarely needed now
> and they work differently)
>
> Doug M. in NJ

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:09:01 -0400, "C. Roy Blye" <>
wrote:

>I posted a reply to Doug's message and it seems to have disappeared. Does
>anyone know what happened to it?

Roy,

I see no reply, and this being Usenet, there is no way to know what
happened. Best to repost it.

Doug M. in NJ