Cant shut off mail send/receive in WLM

I have unticked the box in Tools/Options/General/ send & receive mail so
that WLM should not automatically download mail from my servers to the
desktop. Unfortunately it still does at extended periods usually around an
hour or so. At the moment I am having to close WLM after every download at a
time i want. I need to shut this off to allow my spam software to work
properly and keep spam deleted at the server and not downloaded to the
desktop.

I have checked the registry and find under Current
User/Software/Microsoft/Windows live Mail/Mail/Poll for Mail as result of
4294967295. If I change the download to a 30 minute period this changes to
1800000000.

I am using WLM build 14.0.8117.0416 and am not signed on to any other 'Live'
service.

What have I missed

Click "Working online" (status bar/lower left corner) and go offline.

Also... go to Tools/Options... "General" tab.... uncheck "Check for new
messages". You can also change the download frequency to 999 minutes (though
some have reported this is ignores), and set your connection attribute to
"Connect only when not working offline".

"Bodger" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> I have unticked the box in Tools/Options/General/ send & receive mail so
> that WLM should not automatically download mail from my servers to the
> desktop. Unfortunately it still does at extended periods usually around an
> hour or so. At the moment I am having to close WLM after every download at
> a time i want. I need to shut this off to allow my spam software to work
> properly and keep spam deleted at the server and not downloaded to the
> desktop.
>
> I have checked the registry and find under Current
> User/Software/Microsoft/Windows live Mail/Mail/Poll for Mail as result of
> 4294967295. If I change the download to a 30 minute period this changes to
> 1800000000.
>
> I am using WLM build 14.0.8117.0416 and am not signed on to any other
> 'Live' service.
>
> What have I missed

"Bodger" <> wrote in message news:%...
> I have unticked the box in Tools/Options/General/ send & receive mail so that WLM should not automatically download mail from my servers to the desktop. Unfortunately it still does at extended periods usually around an hour or so. At the moment I am having to close WLM after every download at a time i want. I need to shut this off to allow my spam software to work properly and keep spam deleted at the server and not downloaded to the desktop.
>
> I have checked the registry and find under Current User/Software/Microsoft/Windows live Mail/Mail/Poll for Mail as result of 4294967295. If I change the download to a 30 minute period this changes to 1800000000.
>
> I am using WLM build 14.0.8117.0416 and am not signed on to any other 'Live' service.
>
> What have I missed

For each account, right-click on the account name in the Folder pane and select Properties. Deselect 'Include this account when receiving mail or synchronizing'. Then select the account you want to synchronize from the dropdown next to the Sync button.
--
Noel

Registry value 1800000000 decimal(or 1b7740 hex) is microseconds

30 minutes = 1800 seconds = 1800000000 microseconds

4294967295 decimal (or ffffffff hex)
- the registry value assigned when 'Send Receive every x minutes is unchecked'
= 4294.967295 sec = 71 minutes (ie. an hour or so)

For time conversion:
http://www.convertworld.com/en/time/Microseconds.html

WLM, by design intent, will poll all accounts.
- the supposed rationale has its foundation in the name of the program 'Live' i.e. to ensure Windows 'Live' Hotmail type accounts using DeltaSync(which mirror folders and messages on the web server mail.LIVE.com) are always in sync. Fyi - also consistent with 'Live' Hotmail accounts in the web interface which also poll automatically.

While, WLM supports pop3...the first and primary focus and intent is for use with Windows Live Hotmail accounts.


--
....winston
ms-mvp mail

"Bodger" wrote in message news:#...

I have unticked the box in Tools/Options/General/ send & receive mail so
that WLM should not automatically download mail from my servers to the
desktop. Unfortunately it still does at extended periods usually around an
hour or so. At the moment I am having to close WLM after every download at a
time i want. I need to shut this off to allow my spam software to work
properly and keep spam deleted at the server and not downloaded to the
desktop.

I have checked the registry and find under Current
User/Software/Microsoft/Windows live Mail/Mail/Poll for Mail as result of
4294967295. If I change the download to a 30 minute period this changes to
1800000000.

I am using WLM build 14.0.8117.0416 and am not signed on to any other 'Live'
service.

What have I missed

Thanks all,

Magnus - 480 minutes is maximum it will accept (8 hours) so that will help.

Ildhund - didn't really want to go down that route as I want to keep the one
button does it all idea.

Winston - So basically it is trying to poll Live Hotmail accounts every 70
odd minutes or so and in doing so automatically does the same for any POP
accounts that are ticked for auto sync. I was expecting it WLM to operate in
the same way as OE did as far as POP accounts. ( I have made the jump from
Windows XP straight to Win7.

Now I know what is happening, I can live with it

Thanks again

"...winston" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Registry value 1800000000 decimal(or 1b7740 hex) is microseconds
>
> 30 minutes = 1800 seconds = 1800000000 microseconds
>
> 4294967295 decimal (or ffffffff hex)
> - the registry value assigned when 'Send Receive every x minutes is
> unchecked'
> = 4294.967295 sec = 71 minutes (ie. an hour or so)
> For time conversion:
> http://www.convertworld.com/en/time/Microseconds.html
>
> WLM, by design intent, will poll all accounts.
> - the supposed rationale has its foundation in the name of the program
> 'Live' i.e. to ensure Windows 'Live' Hotmail type accounts using
> DeltaSync(which mirror folders and messages on the web server
> mail.LIVE.com) are always in sync. Fyi - also consistent with 'Live'
> Hotmail accounts in the web interface which also poll automatically.
>
> While, WLM supports pop3...the first and primary focus and intent is for
> use with Windows Live Hotmail accounts.
>
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "Bodger" wrote in message news:#...
> I have unticked the box in Tools/Options/General/ send & receive mail so
> that WLM should not automatically download mail from my servers to the
> desktop. Unfortunately it still does at extended periods usually around an
> hour or so. At the moment I am having to close WLM after every download at
> a time i want. I need to shut this off to allow my spam software to work
> properly and keep spam deleted at the server and not downloaded to the
> desktop.
>
> I have checked the registry and find under Current
> User/Software/Microsoft/Windows live Mail/Mail/Poll for Mail as result of
> 4294967295. If I change the download to a 30 minute period this changes to
> 1800000000.
>
> I am using WLM build 14.0.8117.0416 and am not signed on to any other
> 'Live' service.
>
> What have I missed

Bodger,
I should have looked in my registry before commenting on your 1800000000 value and stating it was microseconds..

After looking at my registry, the value I see for 30 minutes has three less zeros:
-> 1800000
Which would indicate milliseconds not microseconds
- 30 minutes x 60 seconds/min x 1000 milliseconds/sec = 1,800,000 milliseconds

Thus the max value available is when the option is not checked
- ffffffff (hex) = 4294967295

4294967295 milliseconds = ~71,583 minutes (or 49.7 days)

The unchecked setting, thus does not have any apparent significance to the automatic polling every hour or so(it also occurs sometimes sooner for a variety of of other reasons...a temporary lost tcp/ip connection as one example).

The automatic polling occurs regardless of any configured 'send and receive' WLM options(and has done so for prior versions).
The polling occurs by design/inherent code by assuming that syncable Hotmail accounts will be in use for a 'Live' email client. If not present, the polling still occurs with the other accounts coming along for the ride.

Sorry for the math confusion.

--
....winston
ms-mvp mail

"Bodger" wrote in message news:...

Thanks all,

Magnus - 480 minutes is maximum it will accept (8 hours) so that will help.

Ildhund - didn't really want to go down that route as I want to keep the one
button does it all idea.

Winston - So basically it is trying to poll Live Hotmail accounts every 70
odd minutes or so and in doing so automatically does the same for any POP
accounts that are ticked for auto sync. I was expecting it WLM to operate in
the same way as OE did as far as POP accounts. ( I have made the jump from
Windows XP straight to Win7.

Now I know what is happening, I can live with it

Thanks again

"...winston" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Registry value 1800000000 decimal(or 1b7740 hex) is microseconds
>
> 30 minutes = 1800 seconds = 1800000000 microseconds
>
> 4294967295 decimal (or ffffffff hex)
> - the registry value assigned when 'Send Receive every x minutes is
> unchecked'
> = 4294.967295 sec = 71 minutes (ie. an hour or so)
> For time conversion:
> http://www.convertworld.com/en/time/Microseconds.html
>
> WLM, by design intent, will poll all accounts.
> - the supposed rationale has its foundation in the name of the program
> 'Live' i.e. to ensure Windows 'Live' Hotmail type accounts using
> DeltaSync(which mirror folders and messages on the web server
> mail.LIVE.com) are always in sync. Fyi - also consistent with 'Live'
> Hotmail accounts in the web interface which also poll automatically.
>
> While, WLM supports pop3...the first and primary focus and intent is for
> use with Windows Live Hotmail accounts.
>
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "Bodger" wrote in message news:#...
> I have unticked the box in Tools/Options/General/ send & receive mail so
> that WLM should not automatically download mail from my servers to the
> desktop. Unfortunately it still does at extended periods usually around an
> hour or so. At the moment I am having to close WLM after every download at
> a time i want. I need to shut this off to allow my spam software to work
> properly and keep spam deleted at the server and not downloaded to the
> desktop.
>
> I have checked the registry and find under Current
> User/Software/Microsoft/Windows live Mail/Mail/Poll for Mail as result of
> 4294967295. If I change the download to a 30 minute period this changes to
> 1800000000.
>
> I am using WLM build 14.0.8117.0416 and am not signed on to any other
> 'Live' service.
>
> What have I missed

Sorry Winston, My typing error adding the extra zero's in my original mail.
It is only 5 zero's as you show below.

So going on what you say below (last paragraph) it doesn't matter what
number of minutes is set for 'send & receive' WLM will poll and download any
POP accounts that are set to be included in 'downloading or synchronizing.
So to stop it automatically polling POP accounts I need to remove the tick
at 'download & synchronize for each individual POP account as Ildhund has
suggested.


"...winston" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Bodger,
> I should have looked in my registry before commenting on your 1800000000
> value and stating it was microseconds..
>
> After looking at my registry, the value I see for 30 minutes has three
> less zeros:
> -> 1800000
> Which would indicate milliseconds not microseconds
> - 30 minutes x 60 seconds/min x 1000 milliseconds/sec = 1,800,000
> milliseconds
>
> Thus the max value available is when the option is not checked
> - ffffffff (hex) = 4294967295
>
> 4294967295 milliseconds = ~71,583 minutes (or 49.7 days)
>
> The unchecked setting, thus does not have any apparent significance to the
> automatic polling every hour or so(it also occurs sometimes sooner for a
> variety of of other reasons...a temporary lost tcp/ip connection as one
> example).
>
> The automatic polling occurs regardless of any configured 'send and
> receive' WLM options(and has done so for prior versions).
> The polling occurs by design/inherent code by assuming that syncable
> Hotmail accounts will be in use for a 'Live' email client. If not present,
> the polling still occurs with the other accounts coming along for the
> ride.
>
> Sorry for the math confusion.
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "Bodger" wrote in message news:...
> Thanks all,
>
> Magnus - 480 minutes is maximum it will accept (8 hours) so that will
> help.
>
> Ildhund - didn't really want to go down that route as I want to keep the
> one button does it all idea.
>
> Winston - So basically it is trying to poll Live Hotmail accounts every 70
> odd minutes or so and in doing so automatically does the same for any POP
> accounts that are ticked for auto sync. I was expecting it WLM to operate
> in the same way as OE did as far as POP accounts. ( I have made the jump
> from Windows XP straight to Win7.
>
> Now I know what is happening, I can live with it
>
> Thanks again
>
> "...winston" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Registry value 1800000000 decimal(or 1b7740 hex) is microseconds
>>
>> 30 minutes = 1800 seconds = 1800000000 microseconds
>>
>> 4294967295 decimal (or ffffffff hex)
>> - the registry value assigned when 'Send Receive every x minutes is
>> unchecked'
>> = 4294.967295 sec = 71 minutes (ie. an hour or so)
>> For time conversion:
>> http://www.convertworld.com/en/time/Microseconds.html
>>
>> WLM, by design intent, will poll all accounts.
>> - the supposed rationale has its foundation in the name of the program
>> 'Live' i.e. to ensure Windows 'Live' Hotmail type accounts using
>> DeltaSync(which mirror folders and messages on the web server
>> mail.LIVE.com) are always in sync. Fyi - also consistent with 'Live'
>> Hotmail accounts in the web interface which also poll automatically.
>>
>> While, WLM supports pop3...the first and primary focus and intent is for
>> use with Windows Live Hotmail accounts.
>>
>>
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>> "Bodger" wrote in message news:#...
>> I have unticked the box in Tools/Options/General/ send & receive mail so
>> that WLM should not automatically download mail from my servers to the
>> desktop. Unfortunately it still does at extended periods usually around
>> an hour or so. At the moment I am having to close WLM after every
>> download at a time i want. I need to shut this off to allow my spam
>> software to work properly and keep spam deleted at the server and not
>> downloaded to the desktop.
>>
>> I have checked the registry and find under Current
>> User/Software/Microsoft/Windows live Mail/Mail/Poll for Mail as result of
>> 4294967295. If I change the download to a 30 minute period this changes
>> to 1800000000.
>>
>> I am using WLM build 14.0.8117.0416 and am not signed on to any other
>> 'Live' service.
>>
>> What have I missed

Yes...that is correct.
Unfortunately, I doubt this 'feature'(polling) will change having been in place in WLM for years.

Personally, I've pretty much gotten used to it. While Outlook is my primary pop3 client, I do have a few of those pop3 accounts redundantly setup in WLM(configured to leave messages on the server) and Hotmail accounts configured for Http/DeltaSync. Knowing that its going to automatically poll(eventually) is workable for my usage pattern..and if something important arrives in one of the pop3 accounts, it serves as a notification to read or respond to a message I might otherwise delay until opening Outlook.



--
....winston
ms-mvp mail

"Bodger" wrote in message news:#BHQO#...

Sorry Winston, My typing error adding the extra zero's in my original mail.
It is only 5 zero's as you show below.

So going on what you say below (last paragraph) it doesn't matter what
number of minutes is set for 'send & receive' WLM will poll and download any
POP accounts that are set to be included in 'downloading or synchronizing.
So to stop it automatically polling POP accounts I need to remove the tick
at 'download & synchronize for each individual POP account as Ildhund has
suggested.


"...winston" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Bodger,
> I should have looked in my registry before commenting on your 1800000000
> value and stating it was microseconds..
>
> After looking at my registry, the value I see for 30 minutes has three
> less zeros:
> -> 1800000
> Which would indicate milliseconds not microseconds
> - 30 minutes x 60 seconds/min x 1000 milliseconds/sec = 1,800,000
> milliseconds
>
> Thus the max value available is when the option is not checked
> - ffffffff (hex) = 4294967295
>
> 4294967295 milliseconds = ~71,583 minutes (or 49.7 days)
>
> The unchecked setting, thus does not have any apparent significance to the
> automatic polling every hour or so(it also occurs sometimes sooner for a
> variety of of other reasons...a temporary lost tcp/ip connection as one
> example).
>
> The automatic polling occurs regardless of any configured 'send and
> receive' WLM options(and has done so for prior versions).
> The polling occurs by design/inherent code by assuming that syncable
> Hotmail accounts will be in use for a 'Live' email client. If not present,
> the polling still occurs with the other accounts coming along for the
> ride.
>
> Sorry for the math confusion.
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "Bodger" wrote in message news:...
> Thanks all,
>
> Magnus - 480 minutes is maximum it will accept (8 hours) so that will
> help.
>
> Ildhund - didn't really want to go down that route as I want to keep the
> one button does it all idea.
>
> Winston - So basically it is trying to poll Live Hotmail accounts every 70
> odd minutes or so and in doing so automatically does the same for any POP
> accounts that are ticked for auto sync. I was expecting it WLM to operate
> in the same way as OE did as far as POP accounts. ( I have made the jump
> from Windows XP straight to Win7.
>
> Now I know what is happening, I can live with it
>
> Thanks again
>
> "...winston" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Registry value 1800000000 decimal(or 1b7740 hex) is microseconds
>>
>> 30 minutes = 1800 seconds = 1800000000 microseconds
>>
>> 4294967295 decimal (or ffffffff hex)
>> - the registry value assigned when 'Send Receive every x minutes is
>> unchecked'
>> = 4294.967295 sec = 71 minutes (ie. an hour or so)
>> For time conversion:
>> http://www.convertworld.com/en/time/Microseconds.html
>>
>> WLM, by design intent, will poll all accounts.
>> - the supposed rationale has its foundation in the name of the program
>> 'Live' i.e. to ensure Windows 'Live' Hotmail type accounts using
>> DeltaSync(which mirror folders and messages on the web server
>> mail.LIVE.com) are always in sync. Fyi - also consistent with 'Live'
>> Hotmail accounts in the web interface which also poll automatically.
>>
>> While, WLM supports pop3...the first and primary focus and intent is for
>> use with Windows Live Hotmail accounts.
>>
>>
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>> "Bodger" wrote in message news:#...
>> I have unticked the box in Tools/Options/General/ send & receive mail so
>> that WLM should not automatically download mail from my servers to the
>> desktop. Unfortunately it still does at extended periods usually around
>> an hour or so. At the moment I am having to close WLM after every
>> download at a time i want. I need to shut this off to allow my spam
>> software to work properly and keep spam deleted at the server and not
>> downloaded to the desktop.
>>
>> I have checked the registry and find under Current
>> User/Software/Microsoft/Windows live Mail/Mail/Poll for Mail as result of
>> 4294967295. If I change the download to a 30 minute period this changes
>> to 1800000000.
>>
>> I am using WLM build 14.0.8117.0416 and am not signed on to any other
>> 'Live' service.
>>
>> What have I missed