In case there would be a Vi$ta SP1...

Could I mail my original Vi$ta CDs to Microsoft and got back ones that
have SP1 slip-streamed?

I don't want to apply service packs after another clean installation
when I upgrade my PC.

Also, the service packs include hardware drivers, right?

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I am gonna have to say, Service Packs don't include drivers, based on my
experience, even after slip streaming NT 4 SPs, 2000 and XP. Service Packs
will add drivers only if its to adhere to industry standards, up and coming
technologies. Windows XP SP1 added Bluetooth support for example. Vista will
support new 802.11n based hardware and more. As for exchange programs, I am
not aware of any, there have been none in the past, so I assume the same for
Windows Vista.
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"Man-wai Chang ToDie" <> wrote in message
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>
> Could I mail my original Vi$ta CDs to Microsoft and got back ones that
> have SP1 slip-streamed?
>
> I don't want to apply service packs after another clean installation
> when I upgrade my PC.
>
> Also, the service packs include hardware drivers, right?
>
> --
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> I am gonna have to say, Service Packs don't include drivers, based on my
> experience, even after slip streaming NT 4 SPs, 2000 and XP. Service Packs
> will add drivers only if its to adhere to industry standards, up and coming
> technologies. Windows XP SP1 added Bluetooth support for example.

"Up and coming technologies"?

Should there be a an basic emulator or hardware abstraction layer, kind
of like VESA frame-buffer, to guarantee a basic installation of the OS?

Why didn't Micro$oft specify this "basic install right" as a standard?

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Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:
> Could I mail my original Vi$ta CDs to Microsoft and got back ones that
> have SP1 slip-streamed?
>
> I don't want to apply service packs after another clean installation
> when I upgrade my PC.
>
> Also, the service packs include hardware drivers, right?
>

Slipstream it yourself. No doubt MS will put out a procedure for
slipstreaming the sp into the OS like they did for XP, 2000, etc.

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"Could I mail my original..."
This has not been an option in the past, so I do not expect it this
time.

"...the service packs include hardware drivers..."
Probably not so do not expect it.
The drivers provided by Microsoft originate from the hardware
manufacturers.
Check with the manufacturer of your hardware for Windows Vista
drivers.
Do not wait for or expect Microsoft to provide drivers for 3rd party
products.


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"Man-wai Chang ToDie" <> wrote in message
news:eHWvW%...
>
> Could I mail my original Vi$ta CDs to Microsoft and got back ones
> that
> have SP1 slip-streamed?
>
> I don't want to apply service packs after another clean installation
> when I upgrade my PC.
>
> Also, the service packs include hardware drivers, right?
>
> --
> @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
> / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
> /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.23.1
> ^ ^ 20:04:01 up 5 days 31 min 0 users load average: 0.00 0.00
> 0.00
> news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org
> news://news.newsgroup.com.hk

In message <eca1n#> "Andre Da
Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote:

>I am gonna have to say, Service Packs don't include drivers, based on my
>experience

SP2 has a substantial number of drivers not included with the original
XP.

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least i have a good reason, i'm a texter not a typer.)

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"Man-wai Chang ToDie" <> wrote in message
news:eHWvW%...
>
> Could I mail my original Vi$ta CDs to Microsoft and got back ones that
> have SP1 slip-streamed?
>
> I don't want to apply service packs after another clean installation
> when I upgrade my PC.
>
> Also, the service packs include hardware drivers, right?
>
> --
> @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
> / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
> /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.23.1
> ^ ^ 20:04:01 up 5 days 31 min 0 users load average: 0.00 0.00 0.00
> news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk