CHSDSK keep on launching

Hi!

I have a computer with Windows Vista Home Edition.

Two issues related:

++ From time to time, the PC shuts dows by itself after a warning...
++ Everytime I boot the PC, it starts a CHKDSK (check disk on the C:\
drive). I did let the CHKDSK run all night, but it didn't go further than
8% - and the issue is not solved.

The PC (HP laptop) is brand new.

Any idea?

Nicolas Macarez expressed precisely :
> Hi!
>
> I have a computer with Windows Vista Home Edition.
>
> Two issues related:
>
> ++ From time to time, the PC shuts dows by itself after a warning...
> ++ Everytime I boot the PC, it starts a CHKDSK (check disk on the C:\
> drive). I did let the CHKDSK run all night, but it didn't go further
> than 8% - and the issue is not solved.
>
> The PC (HP laptop) is brand new.
>
> Any idea?

Take it back to the shop. That's what a warranty is for.

--
Mamamegs.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.
(Adam Savage)

www.vistabits.nl

MSN:
_**_

I agree...sounds like a hardware problem (perhaps CPU overheating, bad
cooling fan, etc.) that causes the PC to shut down. The check disk runs as a
result of the "non-elegant" shut down.

But it's interesting that you ran it all night running chkdsk without it
shutting down (unless the PC froze at 8%). Or maybe you just got lucky that
night. Since it is a laptop, are you sure you are not blocking airflow while
you are using it? It's easy to do if you keep it literally on your lap.

Tim

"Mamamegs" <> wrote in message
news: ...
> Nicolas Macarez expressed precisely :
>> Hi!
>>
>> I have a computer with Windows Vista Home Edition.
>>
>> Two issues related:
>>
>> ++ From time to time, the PC shuts dows by itself after a warning...
>> ++ Everytime I boot the PC, it starts a CHKDSK (check disk on the C:\
>> drive). I did let the CHKDSK run all night, but it didn't go further than
>> 8% - and the issue is not solved.
>>
>> The PC (HP laptop) is brand new.
>>
>> Any idea?
>
> Take it back to the shop. That's what a warranty is for.
>
> --
> Mamamegs.
>
> I reject your reality and substitute my own.
> (Adam Savage)
>
> www.vistabits.nl
>
> MSN:
> _**_
>
>

Hi Tim--(wherever the OP you made has split off and gone to--a recurrent
phenom on this group)

Since this group keeeps having threads that split off this is for the OP
wherever the OP is.

There are actually not uncommon times when chkesk will keep running either
in an endless loop or at every boot when you don't want it to. It has
nothing to do with a hdw problem much of the time. The easy way to fix this
is to run a chkdsk /R from the recovery console--some people do who have
loaded the RC onto XP and then dual booted Vista--it becomes an option on
the F8 disk.

Another way to stop this is to run a chkntfs command from the command
prompt. The chkntfs command is used to display or modify the checking of the
disk drive using NTFS at boot time. I know it's available in Vista because I
just ran it.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d....mspx?mfr=true


As to the shutting down without a warning, I'd handle it this way:

1) Run spyware and AV scans to clear that malware or a malicious script
could cause this.

2) Run SFC by typing cmd in the Search box>rt.click>run as admin>at cmd
prompt type sfc/scannow.

3) If you have the DVD and the above fails to fix this, do a startup repair
or a System Restore from the recovery environment after putting in the
Vista DVD. It's in the lower left corner of the setup screen after the
language option screen.

CH

"Tim" <timfeld_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2C3C2E92-9FD4-4F4C-809C-...
>I agree...sounds like a hardware problem (perhaps CPU overheating, bad
>cooling fan, etc.) that causes the PC to shut down. The check disk runs as
>a result of the "non-elegant" shut down.
>
> But it's interesting that you ran it all night running chkdsk without it
> shutting down (unless the PC froze at 8%). Or maybe you just got lucky
> that night. Since it is a laptop, are you sure you are not blocking
> airflow while you are using it? It's easy to do if you keep it literally
> on your lap.
>
> Tim
>
> "Mamamegs" <> wrote in message
> news: ...
>> Nicolas Macarez expressed precisely :
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I have a computer with Windows Vista Home Edition.
>>>
>>> Two issues related:
>>>
>>> ++ From time to time, the PC shuts dows by itself after a warning...
>>> ++ Everytime I boot the PC, it starts a CHKDSK (check disk on the C:\
>>> drive). I did let the CHKDSK run all night, but it didn't go further
>>> than 8% - and the issue is not solved.
>>>
>>> The PC (HP laptop) is brand new.
>>>
>>> Any idea?
>>
>> Take it back to the shop. That's what a warranty is for.
>>
>> --
>> Mamamegs.
>>
>> I reject your reality and substitute my own.
>> (Adam Savage)
>>
>> www.vistabits.nl
>>
>> MSN:
>> _**_
>>
>>
>

Hi Nicholas--

Your post didn't show up despite Show All Messages and download all messages
set as a default for me in Win Mail. Now it does.

There are actually not uncommon times when chkesk will keep running either
in an endless loop or at every boot when you don't want it to. It has
nothing to do with a hdw problem much of the time. The easy way to fix this
is to run a chkdsk /R from the recovery console--some people do who have
loaded the RC onto XP and then dual booted Vista--it becomes an option on
the F8 disk.

Another way to stop this is to run a chkntfs command from the command
prompt. The chkntfs command is used to display or modify the checking of the
disk drive using NTFS at boot time. I know it's available in Vista because I
just ran it.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d....mspx?mfr=true

If none of these work, use the fsutil utility at the cmd prompt. Type cmd
in Search>rt.click>run as admin>at prompt type fsutil:

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d....mspx?mfr=true

Often when you have either serial repeating chkdsk or chkdsk often at boot
when you didn't set it as a command or set a defragger to do it, fsutil
clears a dirty autobit that has a chkdsk cmd stuck.


As to the shutting down without a warning, I'd handle it this way:

1) Run spyware and AV scans to clear that malware or a malicious script
could cause this.

2) Run SFC by typing cmd in the Search box>rt.click>run as admin>at cmd
prompt type sfc/scannow.

3) If you have the DVD and the above fails to fix this, do a startup repair
or a System Restore from the recovery environment after putting in the
Vista DVD. It's in the lower left corner of the setup screen after the
language option screen.

CH




"Nicolas Macarez" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi!
>
> I have a computer with Windows Vista Home Edition.
>
> Two issues related:
>
> ++ From time to time, the PC shuts dows by itself after a warning...
> ++ Everytime I boot the PC, it starts a CHKDSK (check disk on the C:\
> drive). I did let the CHKDSK run all night, but it didn't go further than
> 8% - and the issue is not solved.
>
> The PC (HP laptop) is brand new.
>
> Any idea?
>
>

Nicholas--

Vista doesn't have a Recovery Console which is fine with me, because except
for one specific use, there are many other ways to fix a Windows OS when you
can't boot to Windows, and the Repair Install is far better in XP for many
errors (some of which MSKBs remedy with the RC). However, you can install
the RC into XP via the MSKB below and I'll bet you could do it with Vista as
well.

Then I'd run a chkdsk /R (can be lower case as well from the RC. Boot to
the Recovery Console and run it from the CMD prompt):

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307654/en-us

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216417/en-us

CH


"Nicolas Macarez" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi!
>
> I have a computer with Windows Vista Home Edition.
>
> Two issues related:
>
> ++ From time to time, the PC shuts dows by itself after a warning...
> ++ Everytime I boot the PC, it starts a CHKDSK (check disk on the C:\
> drive). I did let the CHKDSK run all night, but it didn't go further than
> 8% - and the issue is not solved.
>
> The PC (HP laptop) is brand new.
>
> Any idea?
>
>

Thanks Chad, for your help.
I'll test everything on the laptop of my client and keep you tuned.
Regards
Nicolas

"Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
news:uArt$...
> Nicholas--
>
> Vista doesn't have a Recovery Console which is fine with me, because
except
> for one specific use, there are many other ways to fix a Windows OS when
you
> can't boot to Windows, and the Repair Install is far better in XP for many
> errors (some of which MSKBs remedy with the RC). However, you can install
> the RC into XP via the MSKB below and I'll bet you could do it with Vista
as
> well.
>
> Then I'd run a chkdsk /R (can be lower case as well from the RC. Boot to
> the Recovery Console and run it from the CMD prompt):
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307654/en-us
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216417/en-us
>
> CH
>
>
> "Nicolas Macarez" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have a computer with Windows Vista Home Edition.
> >
> > Two issues related:
> >
> > ++ From time to time, the PC shuts dows by itself after a warning...
> > ++ Everytime I boot the PC, it starts a CHKDSK (check disk on the C:\
> > drive). I did let the CHKDSK run all night, but it didn't go further
than
> > 8% - and the issue is not solved.
> >
> > The PC (HP laptop) is brand new.
> >
> > Any idea?
> >
> >
>

Thanks Tim,
My answers below.
Regards
Nicolas

"Tim" <timfeld_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2C3C2E92-9FD4-4F4C-809C-...
> I agree...sounds like a hardware problem (perhaps CPU overheating, bad
> cooling fan, etc.) that causes the PC to shut down. The check disk runs as
a
> result of the "non-elegant" shut down.

NO: CHSDSK runs EVERY TIME I boot the PC, not only after the "non-elegant"
shut down.
>
> But it's interesting that you ran it all night running chkdsk without it
> shutting down (unless the PC froze at 8%). Or maybe you just got lucky
that
> night. Since it is a laptop, are you sure you are not blocking airflow
while
> you are using it? It's easy to do if you keep it literally on your lap.

NO: I'm not blocking the air fan.

>
> Tim
>
> "Mamamegs" <> wrote in message
> news: ...
> > Nicolas Macarez expressed precisely :
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I have a computer with Windows Vista Home Edition.
> >>
> >> Two issues related:
> >>
> >> ++ From time to time, the PC shuts dows by itself after a warning...
> >> ++ Everytime I boot the PC, it starts a CHKDSK (check disk on the C:\
> >> drive). I did let the CHKDSK run all night, but it didn't go further
than
> >> 8% - and the issue is not solved.
> >>
> >> The PC (HP laptop) is brand new.
> >>
> >> Any idea?
> >
> > Take it back to the shop. That's what a warranty is for.
> >
> > --
> > Mamamegs.
> >
> > I reject your reality and substitute my own.
> > (Adam Savage)
> >
> > www.vistabits.nl
> >
> > MSN:
> > _**_
> >
> >
>

"Nicolas Macarez" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi!
>
> I have a computer with Windows Vista Home Edition.
>
> Two issues related:
>
> ++ From time to time, the PC shuts dows by itself after a warning...
> ++ Everytime I boot the PC, it starts a CHKDSK (check disk on the C:\
> drive). I did let the CHKDSK run all night, but it didn't go further than
> 8% - and the issue is not solved.
>
> The PC (HP laptop) is brand new.
>
> Any idea?

You could try this:

[Chkdsk on every bootup.]

1. Click on the start ball > Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt >
Right-click, Run as Administrator.

2. Next type ' fsutil dirty query c: ' (where c is your drive letter, don't
type quotes.)

3. If the return message indicates that the volume is dirty go to step 4

4. Next type ' chkdsk c: /f /x '

5. After that finshes repeat step 2.

6. If it is no longer dirty then reboot and you should have no more issues
with ckdisk.
..

Hi Chad,
I now have the OEM version of Vista Ultimate System builder edition but originally had a OEM installed from a server
from my PC maker.
I would like to find a way to install the RC into my F8 options like the original had.
Is there a way to do this?

On Thu, 3 May 2007 18:47:17 -0400, "Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote:

>-some people do who have loaded the RC onto XP and then dual booted Vista--it becomes an option on
>the F8 disk.

Have a good day,
RScotti

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