class action lawsuit

looks like there would be some lawyer some where,that would start a class
action lawsuit for us.maybe thats what microsoft needs..they sure do not care
about us or putting out a defective product..bill gates likes to give away
money to charities,that he stole from us,maybe we could take back some of the
billions,he and his company cheated us out of..i know after months of this
defective,vista os,i would sign up..if they are not stoped ,they are just
going to continue to make and sell more defective,,products..lets get this
lawsuit started...

I'm going to call this number in the am.

Microsoft offers a 45 day refund on all there products.

Along with a up to 7.00 for return shipping. The number to call:

1-888-673-8624

I bought my copy the 1st day. After the 1st few weeks the joy was gone. But
I waited and waited thinking it would be fixed. After seeing the beta SP-1
I'm not at all Impressed. I know, I know. It's a beta. But Waiting for
another 4 -7 months for a "It might be fixed"




"wheelman" <> wrote in message
news17EF881-3302-471E-BECA-...
> looks like there would be some lawyer some where,that would start a class
> action lawsuit for us.maybe thats what microsoft needs..they sure do not
> care
> about us or putting out a defective product..bill gates likes to give away
> money to charities,that he stole from us,maybe we could take back some of
> the
> billions,he and his company cheated us out of..i know after months of this
> defective,vista os,i would sign up..if they are not stoped ,they are just
> going to continue to make and sell more defective,,products..lets get this
> lawsuit started...

"wheelman" <> wrote in message
news17EF881-3302-471E-BECA-...
> looks like there would be some lawyer some where,that would start a class
> action lawsuit for us.maybe thats what microsoft needs..they sure do not
> care
> about us or putting out a defective product..bill gates likes to give away
> money to charities,that he stole from us,maybe we could take back some of
> the
> billions,he and his company cheated us out of..i know after months of this
> defective,vista os,i would sign up..if they are not stoped ,they are just
> going to continue to make and sell more defective,,products..lets get this
> lawsuit started...

You have not yet managed to make any actual definitive statement in any of
your recent posts that clearly state why you believe Windows Vista is
"defective".
It is not use just shout you don't like it or it does not work with your old
application or hardware due to app compat or driver issues.
Frankly there are millions of users of Vista world world that are not seeing
a defective product and certainly thousands of users that I have deployed
Vista too that are fully functional without issue or concern.

So why not post your actual definite, clearly articulated and detailed point
by point analysis of why you believe Vista is "defective" - remember if you
really want a class action suit will need to be able to do this so that each
point can be investigated in detail to see if it really is a defect.

So please do post back with your complete detailed list of points.

--

Mike Brannigan

"Kevin Weaver" <> wrote in message
news:f4IMi.212$.. .
> I'm going to call this number in the am.
>
> Microsoft offers a 45 day refund on all there products.
>
> Along with a up to 7.00 for return shipping. The number to call:
>
> 1-888-673-8624
>
> I bought my copy the 1st day. After the 1st few weeks the joy was gone.
> But I waited and waited thinking it would be fixed. After seeing the beta
> SP-1 I'm not at all Impressed. I know, I know. It's a beta. But Waiting
> for another 4 -7 months for a "It might be fixed"
>

Kevin,

Why not post what you think needs to be fixed (be precise about this and
provide lots of detail).
In many cases this these are not problems with the OS but related to either
changes in the product for enhanced security or application or hardware
compatibility issue or simple user training ones as the way you do a number
of things has changed.
--
Mike Brannigan

"Kevin Weaver" <> wrote in message
news:f4IMi.212$.. .
> I'm going to call this number in the am.
>
> Microsoft offers a 45 day refund on all there products.
>
> Along with a up to 7.00 for return shipping. The number to call:
>
> 1-888-673-8624
>
> I bought my copy the 1st day. After the 1st few weeks the joy was gone.
> But I waited and waited thinking it would be fixed. After seeing the beta
> SP-1 I'm not at all Impressed. I know, I know. It's a beta. But Waiting
> for another 4 -7 months for a "It might be fixed"
>
>
>
>
> "wheelman" <> wrote in message
> news17EF881-3302-471E-BECA-...
>> looks like there would be some lawyer some where,that would start a class
>> action lawsuit for us.maybe thats what microsoft needs..they sure do not
>> care
>> about us or putting out a defective product..bill gates likes to give
>> away
>> money to charities,that he stole from us,maybe we could take back some of
>> the
>> billions,he and his company cheated us out of..i know after months of
>> this
>> defective,vista os,i would sign up..if they are not stoped ,they are just
>> going to continue to make and sell more defective,,products..lets get
>> this
>> lawsuit started...
>

see what im saying.some one all ways comes on and messes with us,when we are
talking about how defective vista is and all the problems every one is
haveing.

they want to take up for microsoft who is screwing us to no end.we know he
sees the post here and how all are negitive.so is microsoft paying these guys
to jump in our post and mess with us,i wouldnt put it past them..i have been
trying for four months to strighten out this os..you get one thing to work
and it does something else so something want work.im

done with complaining.we need a class action law suit..it would be so great
to give it back to the people,thats doing it to us..and to the people that
want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not wanted...

"Mike Brannigan" wrote:

> "wheelman" <> wrote in message
> news17EF881-3302-471E-BECA-...
> > looks like there would be some lawyer some where,that would start a class
> > action lawsuit for us.maybe thats what microsoft needs..they sure do not
> > care
> > about us or putting out a defective product..bill gates likes to give away
> > money to charities,that he stole from us,maybe we could take back some of
> > the
> > billions,he and his company cheated us out of..i know after months of this
> > defective,vista os,i would sign up..if they are not stoped ,they are just
> > going to continue to make and sell more defective,,products..lets get this
> > lawsuit started...
>
> You have not yet managed to make any actual definitive statement in any of
> your recent posts that clearly state why you believe Windows Vista is
> "defective".
> It is not use just shout you don't like it or it does not work with your old
> application or hardware due to app compat or driver issues.
> Frankly there are millions of users of Vista world world that are not seeing
> a defective product and certainly thousands of users that I have deployed
> Vista too that are fully functional without issue or concern.
>
> So why not post your actual definite, clearly articulated and detailed point
> by point analysis of why you believe Vista is "defective" - remember if you
> really want a class action suit will need to be able to do this so that each
> point can be investigated in detail to see if it really is a defect.
>
> So please do post back with your complete detailed list of points.
>
> --
>
> Mike Brannigan
>

"wheelman" <> wrote in message
news5A14001-8126-4912-B176-...
> see what im saying.some one all ways comes on and messes with us,when we
> are
> talking about how defective vista is and all the problems every one is
> haveing.
>
> they want to take up for microsoft who is screwing us to no end.we know he
> sees the post here and how all are negitive.so is microsoft paying these
> guys
> to jump in our post and mess with us,i wouldnt put it past them..i have
> been
> trying for four months to strighten out this os..you get one thing to work
> and it does something else so something want work.im
>
> done with complaining.we need a class action law suit..it would be so
> great
> to give it back to the people,thats doing it to us..and to the people that
> want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not
> wanted...
>

So you are still avoiding the issue - if you want a class action suit then
you need to clearly state what you think is defective (in detail) about
Windows Vista.
So fare you have said nothing , so one one is going to take you seriously.
I doubt any lawyer is going to take you up on this is you are not capable of
even beginning to clearly state the nature of the defects you wish to site
in the suit.
So come on provide the details now if you really think you have a case.

And as regards
>and to the people that
> want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not
> wanted...
You know that is the point of posting a discussion? - to have one !. So me
asking you to provide detail is not "messing with your post" - but asking
you to clarify the nature of your issues. If you can't do that then you have
no case.
--
Mike Brannigan

"wheelman" <> wrote in message
news5A14001-8126-4912-B176-...
> see what im saying.some one all ways comes on and messes with us,when we
> are
> talking about how defective vista is and all the problems every one is
> haveing.
>
> they want to take up for microsoft who is screwing us to no end.we know he
> sees the post here and how all are negitive.so is microsoft paying these
> guys
> to jump in our post and mess with us,i wouldnt put it past them..i have
> been
> trying for four months to strighten out this os..you get one thing to work
> and it does something else so something want work.im
>
> done with complaining.we need a class action law suit..it would be so
> great
> to give it back to the people,thats doing it to us..and to the people that
> want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not
> wanted...
>
> "Mike Brannigan" wrote:
>
>> "wheelman" <> wrote in message
>> news17EF881-3302-471E-BECA-...
>> > looks like there would be some lawyer some where,that would start a
>> > class
>> > action lawsuit for us.maybe thats what microsoft needs..they sure do
>> > not
>> > care
>> > about us or putting out a defective product..bill gates likes to give
>> > away
>> > money to charities,that he stole from us,maybe we could take back some
>> > of
>> > the
>> > billions,he and his company cheated us out of..i know after months of
>> > this
>> > defective,vista os,i would sign up..if they are not stoped ,they are
>> > just
>> > going to continue to make and sell more defective,,products..lets get
>> > this
>> > lawsuit started...
>>
>> You have not yet managed to make any actual definitive statement in any
>> of
>> your recent posts that clearly state why you believe Windows Vista is
>> "defective".
>> It is not use just shout you don't like it or it does not work with your
>> old
>> application or hardware due to app compat or driver issues.
>> Frankly there are millions of users of Vista world world that are not
>> seeing
>> a defective product and certainly thousands of users that I have deployed
>> Vista too that are fully functional without issue or concern.
>>
>> So why not post your actual definite, clearly articulated and detailed
>> point
>> by point analysis of why you believe Vista is "defective" - remember if
>> you
>> really want a class action suit will need to be able to do this so that
>> each
>> point can be investigated in detail to see if it really is a defect.
>>
>> So please do post back with your complete detailed list of points.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike Brannigan
>>

You dont get it do you? Vista is so badly designed that its unfixable.
Not even with a service pack will vista be saved.




"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:450EA202-90A6-416F-8BB5-...
> "Kevin Weaver" <> wrote in message
> news:f4IMi.212$.. .
>> I'm going to call this number in the am.
>>
>> Microsoft offers a 45 day refund on all there products.
>>
>> Along with a up to 7.00 for return shipping. The number to call:
>>
>> 1-888-673-8624
>>
>> I bought my copy the 1st day. After the 1st few weeks the joy was gone.
>> But I waited and waited thinking it would be fixed. After seeing the beta
>> SP-1 I'm not at all Impressed. I know, I know. It's a beta. But Waiting
>> for another 4 -7 months for a "It might be fixed"
>>
>
> Kevin,
>
> Why not post what you think needs to be fixed (be precise about this and
> provide lots of detail).
> In many cases this these are not problems with the OS but related to
> either changes in the product for enhanced security or application or
> hardware compatibility issue or simple user training ones as the way you
> do a number of things has changed.
> --
> Mike Brannigan
>
> "Kevin Weaver" <> wrote in message
> news:f4IMi.212$.. .
>> I'm going to call this number in the am.
>>
>> Microsoft offers a 45 day refund on all there products.
>>
>> Along with a up to 7.00 for return shipping. The number to call:
>>
>> 1-888-673-8624
>>
>> I bought my copy the 1st day. After the 1st few weeks the joy was gone.
>> But I waited and waited thinking it would be fixed. After seeing the beta
>> SP-1 I'm not at all Impressed. I know, I know. It's a beta. But Waiting
>> for another 4 -7 months for a "It might be fixed"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "wheelman" <> wrote in message
>> news17EF881-3302-471E-BECA-...
>>> looks like there would be some lawyer some where,that would start a
>>> class
>>> action lawsuit for us.maybe thats what microsoft needs..they sure do not
>>> care
>>> about us or putting out a defective product..bill gates likes to give
>>> away
>>> money to charities,that he stole from us,maybe we could take back some
>>> of the
>>> billions,he and his company cheated us out of..i know after months of
>>> this
>>> defective,vista os,i would sign up..if they are not stoped ,they are
>>> just
>>> going to continue to make and sell more defective,,products..lets get
>>> this
>>> lawsuit started...
>>
>

Why clarify man? He says vista sucks and that's all you have to know

What would it help if he told you one feature sucks or the other?

Overall it sucks and its not fixable because the stupidness of vista
is too well integrated with that darn OS.

If MS was willing to haul in vista and rewrite it from scratch THEN we might
be giving you detailed answers. But SP are not rewrites... the mainly fix
some issues,
and add some stuff (not even that will happen in sp1 they wont be adding
anything). MS is stuck with a monster they created and simply cannot go back
now!

The problem with vista starts with its very idea about what an OS should
be... this lack of understanding is surprising.... MS had the experience but
Vista shows
that the people working on it, either were newbies fresh out of collages,
or the people guiding the teams were new to this and have no idea what
people want.

Vista is doomed.... forget about it. Its already good as dead...

so look ahead into a better and brighter future..



"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:7294EDC8-AA1F-4232-A9A5-...
> "wheelman" <> wrote in message
> news5A14001-8126-4912-B176-...
>> see what im saying.some one all ways comes on and messes with us,when we
>> are
>> talking about how defective vista is and all the problems every one is
>> haveing.
>>
>> they want to take up for microsoft who is screwing us to no end.we know
>> he
>> sees the post here and how all are negitive.so is microsoft paying these
>> guys
>> to jump in our post and mess with us,i wouldnt put it past them..i have
>> been
>> trying for four months to strighten out this os..you get one thing to
>> work
>> and it does something else so something want work.im
>>
>> done with complaining.we need a class action law suit..it would be so
>> great
>> to give it back to the people,thats doing it to us..and to the people
>> that
>> want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not
>> wanted...
>>
>
> So you are still avoiding the issue - if you want a class action suit then
> you need to clearly state what you think is defective (in detail) about
> Windows Vista.
> So fare you have said nothing , so one one is going to take you seriously.
> I doubt any lawyer is going to take you up on this is you are not capable
> of even beginning to clearly state the nature of the defects you wish to
> site in the suit.
> So come on provide the details now if you really think you have a case.
>
> And as regards
>>and to the people that
>> want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not
>> wanted...
> You know that is the point of posting a discussion? - to have one !. So
> me asking you to provide detail is not "messing with your post" - but
> asking you to clarify the nature of your issues. If you can't do that then
> you have no case.
> --
> Mike Brannigan
>
> "wheelman" <> wrote in message
> news5A14001-8126-4912-B176-...
>> see what im saying.some one all ways comes on and messes with us,when we
>> are
>> talking about how defective vista is and all the problems every one is
>> haveing.
>>
>> they want to take up for microsoft who is screwing us to no end.we know
>> he
>> sees the post here and how all are negitive.so is microsoft paying these
>> guys
>> to jump in our post and mess with us,i wouldnt put it past them..i have
>> been
>> trying for four months to strighten out this os..you get one thing to
>> work
>> and it does something else so something want work.im
>>
>> done with complaining.we need a class action law suit..it would be so
>> great
>> to give it back to the people,thats doing it to us..and to the people
>> that
>> want to come into our post..and mess with us,take a hike,you are not
>> wanted...
>>
>> "Mike Brannigan" wrote:
>>
>>> "wheelman" <> wrote in message
>>> news17EF881-3302-471E-BECA-...
>>> > looks like there would be some lawyer some where,that would start a
>>> > class
>>> > action lawsuit for us.maybe thats what microsoft needs..they sure do
>>> > not
>>> > care
>>> > about us or putting out a defective product..bill gates likes to give
>>> > away
>>> > money to charities,that he stole from us,maybe we could take back some
>>> > of
>>> > the
>>> > billions,he and his company cheated us out of..i know after months of
>>> > this
>>> > defective,vista os,i would sign up..if they are not stoped ,they are
>>> > just
>>> > going to continue to make and sell more defective,,products..lets get
>>> > this
>>> > lawsuit started...
>>>
>>> You have not yet managed to make any actual definitive statement in any
>>> of
>>> your recent posts that clearly state why you believe Windows Vista is
>>> "defective".
>>> It is not use just shout you don't like it or it does not work with your
>>> old
>>> application or hardware due to app compat or driver issues.
>>> Frankly there are millions of users of Vista world world that are not
>>> seeing
>>> a defective product and certainly thousands of users that I have
>>> deployed
>>> Vista too that are fully functional without issue or concern.
>>>
>>> So why not post your actual definite, clearly articulated and detailed
>>> point
>>> by point analysis of why you believe Vista is "defective" - remember if
>>> you
>>> really want a class action suit will need to be able to do this so that
>>> each
>>> point can be investigated in detail to see if it really is a defect.
>>>
>>> So please do post back with your complete detailed list of points.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Brannigan
>>>
>

You don't even run Vista. Some spokesperson you would be, eh..


"wheelman" <> wrote in message
news17EF881-3302-471E-BECA-...
> looks like there would be some lawyer some where,that would start a class
> action lawsuit for us.maybe thats what microsoft needs..they sure do not
> care
> about us or putting out a defective product..bill gates likes to give away
> money to charities,that he stole from us,maybe we could take back some of
> the
> billions,he and his company cheated us out of..i know after months of this
> defective,vista os,i would sign up..if they are not stoped ,they are just
> going to continue to make and sell more defective,,products..lets get this
> lawsuit started...

wheelman was ranting in:
> looks like there would be some lawyer some where,that would start a class
> action lawsuit for us.maybe that's what microsoft needs..they sure do not care
> about us or putting out a defective product..bill gates likes to give away
> money to charities,that he stole from us,maybe we could take back some of the
> billions,he and his company cheated us out of..i know after months of this
> defective,vista os, i would sign up..if they are not stoped ,they are just
> going to continue to make and sell more defective,,products..lets get this
> lawsuit started...

Install Linux or by an Apple computer.
--

Wim Hekken :-)