Clean Install Fails

I want a multi-boot system - existing XP-home - and Vista just to have a look
at it
(I'm a PC salesman and will no doubt have to sell PCs with Vista early next
year)

I tried and failed - any advice on how to create this, or what went wrong
please.

I shuffled by partitions and created an empty 50GB primary partition (Drive
G, using partition manager under XP home, (fully updated).
XP still boots - so made a backup.
Downloaded RC1, created DVD and ran Custom Install - set to load into the
emty partition. Update was enabled.
Vista loaded, a multi-OS boot screen was automatically created as part of
the install - I didnt have to select anythingd and selecting Vista at boot
time loaded vista and worked. OK some issues with drivers - see below.
Eventually I decided to return to XP so shut down and re-booted and selected
'Old Windows System' from the multi-boot options - and heres where the
problems started.

XP failed to start - black screen, white text, '<windows
root>\system32\hal.dll corrupt or missing'

Tried again - same
Tried with Vista - it started

So - now what -
recovered my backup to C. - same error message.

Thought it could be a corrupt boot - so tried to re-install XP from CD
CD started and eventually - blue screen of death, 'Stop' error caused by
pci.sys.

Booted old DOS disk and used FDISK - deleted XP and VISTA partitions - still
can not run XP Install.
Deleted ALL partitions - same
Used old Norton DISKEDIT to wipe out scetor zero - same.

OK - got out PC manufacturers recovery disks and booted - it detected the
corrupt boot sector, rebuilt - and bingo - back to scratch
Used Partition manager to recreate partions, recovered my backup again and
TADA - it works - but what a palaver.

Vista driver issues
Upgrade tool advises after installing Vista to get new CREATIC 802.11G
driver - but I cant find one.
Sound dead - upgrade adviser suggests this may be the case - its is a
C-Media High Definition Audio - codec CMI9880L - cant find drivers
TV Tuner - no go - it is a Medion card with the 7134 chip set - cant find
drivers
These arnt an issue as I dont use the wireless, TV or sound very often, and
I just want to get a feel for Vista.

Hello

I also had multiple failures with install using the DVD I burned, ended up
formating an PATA drive (could not get Via drivers to work for my SATA)
installed XP Pro SP2 on the drive updated it via windows update (did not
install any programs) then copied the Vista Install DVD to a folder on the XP
disk and installed it from XP using the folder copy of the install disk.

went in like a charm,

I was very frustrated as the DVD was checksumed ok and just stopped
installing for some reason.

very cumbersome way to install, BUT the key is it installed and is working
well

my "bi*ch" is that UAC is unweldy and makes my MS Outlook 2007 Beta not able
to use hyperlinks or update from the help menu. I am using administrator
privileges and still cannot get away from the

" The operation has been canceled due to restrictions in effect on this
computer. Pleas contact your system administrator"

WHAT RESTRICTIONS, WOW

Good luck on your installs

Jones
"There's Things I am and Things I'm Not"


"Phillip Schlueter" wrote:

> Folks, here is what MSFT is saying: "Windows Vista: Now available for test
> drive
> Did you miss the last opportunity to try Windows Vista? Now is your chance.
> If you're tech-savvy and comfortable running beta software, we invite you to
> try Windows Vista Release Candidate 1 (RC1), the latest pre-release version
> of Windows Vista."
>
> I don't think this sounds like MSFT is trying to discourage us from trying
> Vista, though seems that many of the MVP's here are saying not to unless we
> have need for the new OS's function.
>
> If we based the aformentioned reason for not trying/using Vista we'd still
> be using DOS 6 perhaps. My first GUI was Geoworks Ensemble and have been
> upgrading ever since. Not based on NEED, but based on WANT. That is really
> what marketers are after. If we bought things based on real need, we would
> not have overweight people buying, say, ice cream or cookies or cake. We
> certainly don't need these items, but we want them just the same. I don't
> need Vista, but I'm driven to use the OS and I'm very frustrated not to be
> able to get any version to work since Beta 2. I could do a clean instal
> from BOOT, but in the real world how many people are going to do it this way
> when Vista is RTM. So I insist on trying everything in my computer
> vocabulary to make Vista load to no avail. And, since Vista fails not
> durning the actual install, but during the final reboot there is noting to
> go buy to solve the problem. So I have gotten rid of almost ever piece of
> hardware and have delected every bit of software that Vista says it is not
> compatible with. I have disabled many start up items, such as printer
> monitor's etc and other TSR's, terminated all AV services. Still no install
> of Vista from Beta 2 on. Vista gets to the Logo and copywrite screen with
> green moving bar and version logo in lower right corner, checks the keyboard
> (I guess, as the lights flash and Numlock stays on like normal) then
> constantly reboots. Runing Fix from DVD boot offer no errors at all, but
> says can't fix the installation. At this point Vista won't even boot into
> safe mode, gets to the safe mode screen with mouse pointer in the middle of
> the screen (which will move with mouse movement) then just continues to
> reboot.
>
> PMS
>
>
>
--
"There''''s Things I am and Things I''''m Not"


"TSR Webman" wrote:

> I want a multi-boot system - existing XP-home - and Vista just to have a look
> at it
> (I'm a PC salesman and will no doubt have to sell PCs with Vista early next
> year)
>
> I tried and failed - any advice on how to create this, or what went wrong
> please.
>
> I shuffled by partitions and created an empty 50GB primary partition (Drive
> G, using partition manager under XP home, (fully updated).
> XP still boots - so made a backup.
> Downloaded RC1, created DVD and ran Custom Install - set to load into the
> emty partition. Update was enabled.
> Vista loaded, a multi-OS boot screen was automatically created as part of
> the install - I didnt have to select anythingd and selecting Vista at boot
> time loaded vista and worked. OK some issues with drivers - see below.
> Eventually I decided to return to XP so shut down and re-booted and selected
> 'Old Windows System' from the multi-boot options - and heres where the
> problems started.
>
> XP failed to start - black screen, white text, '<windows
> root>\system32\hal.dll corrupt or missing'
>
> Tried again - same
> Tried with Vista - it started
>
> So - now what -
> recovered my backup to C. - same error message.
>
> Thought it could be a corrupt boot - so tried to re-install XP from CD
> CD started and eventually - blue screen of death, 'Stop' error caused by
> pci.sys.
>
> Booted old DOS disk and used FDISK - deleted XP and VISTA partitions - still
> can not run XP Install.
> Deleted ALL partitions - same
> Used old Norton DISKEDIT to wipe out scetor zero - same.
>
> OK - got out PC manufacturers recovery disks and booted - it detected the
> corrupt boot sector, rebuilt - and bingo - back to scratch
> Used Partition manager to recreate partions, recovered my backup again and
> TADA - it works - but what a palaver.
>
> Vista driver issues
> Upgrade tool advises after installing Vista to get new CREATIC 802.11G
> driver - but I cant find one.
> Sound dead - upgrade adviser suggests this may be the case - its is a
> C-Media High Definition Audio - codec CMI9880L - cant find drivers
> TV Tuner - no go - it is a Medion card with the 7134 chip set - cant find
> drivers
> These arnt an issue as I dont use the wireless, TV or sound very often, and
> I just want to get a feel for Vista.