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...winston
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      12-28-2009

You read incorrectly..
All posts responses were directed at the original poster(vmars956)
Only one, while responding to the original poster, in error noted your name but narry a mention of accusation regarding bashing,
only that Msft should be contacted regarding WLM.

Unfortunately, even though that thread is easily findable, you chose not to respond to that person and mixed one post with another.

Though when one uses the web interface(CDO as shown in your properties), it can be difficult to respond to the correct post.

I purposely chose to clarify the context since vmars956 didn't have a clue of the difference in applicability to your post(quoted),
others and his/her attempted response.

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"Furry Atlas" <Furry > wrote in message news:54B21867-8CDE-4EEB-BE4A-...
> Furry Atlas here :-)
>
> has this light font problem been fixed in the latest version?
> Build 14.0.8089.0726
>
> I'm using thunderbird happily now - however version 3 has it's own problems
> (like not shutting down a tab, or moving onto the next email message when you
> delete it - *sigh*). Still - it works if you just use the viewing pane and
> get the latest nightbuild of sunbird ... most of all I can read my email!
>
> also - I think many of you misquoted me or referred to me incorrectly about
> MVP bashing - you will find it was someone else who quoted me in their post.
> Easy to find if you read the thread carefully. Bit snipped below ...
>
> I don't bash MVPs.
>
> However - I admit to being extremely critical of Microsoft developers who
> don't give a damn about users and make sloppy errors and just ignore their
> mistakes and leave it to MVPs to sort out the mess rather than fixing
> problems themselves! I do admit to that :-)
>
> "*find it yourself by looking carefully through the thread" wrote:
>
>> Another case of CAN'T GET THERE FROM HERE!
>> and these 'ms-mvp mail' types haven't got a clue .
>>
>> "Furry Atlas" wrote:
>>
>> > There is an annoying way to fix it. A kind person provided this advice to ....

>
>
>
>
> "...winston" wrote:
>
>> Fyi..
>> Furry Atlas' post was in reference to the read mail/messages gray text, not the colorize which impacts Menu, Toolbar, account
>> names in the folder pane, and shading in a message reply(but not the composition window).
>>
>> I.e.The colorizer does not impact the functionality that Furry referenced.
>>
>> Other persons, including Mvp's have suggested that same method for the gray text of read messages and additionally using a rule
>> for pop3 accounts and newsgroup messages to change the color(e.g. For all Messages...Change color to Black or Default)
>>
>> Rather than bash MVP's who are not Microsoft employees...you might thank Furry for posting the issue on the read mail/message
>> text
>> and the original poster(s). If I recall the original poster providing a solution on the read mail gray text issue was Bob Lucas
>> and/or Peter R. Both, like Mvp's, are not Msft employees, but users like yourself in this and other forums.
>>
>>
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>> "vmars956" <> wrote in message news:667C231F-324B-4451-854E-...
>> > Another case of CAN'T GET THERE FROM HERE!
>> > and these 'ms-mvp mail' types haven't got a clue .
>> >
>> > "Furry Atlas" wrote:
>> >
>> >> There is an annoying way to fix it. A kind person provided this advice to
>> >> this newsgroup some time ago copied and pasted below.
>> >>
>> >> For some reason the designers of WLM decided that read mail/messages is the
>> >> same thing as the system disabled font. Beats me why someone would think a
>> >> message list deserves the same greyed out attention that a disabled button
>> >> requires. File under "stupid". I've had to change mine to blue - so I have
>> >> lots of blue text in all sorts of situations to remind me that a) it's
>> >> disabled and that b) MS WLM didn't think things through.
>> >>
>> >> My apologies to the original poster ... I copied and pasted your advice
>> >> without noting your name. Thank you whoever you are, and you deserve credit
>> >> for the below ...
>> >>
>> >> > Yes, the font colour of the Message List can be changed for Read messages.
>> >>
>> >> > It is actually the colour of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font that
>> >> > corresponds to the colour of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line view).
>> >>
>> >> > However, the 'Disabled Item' option does not appear in Windows XP's
>> >> > Display Properties' Advanced Appearance options.
>> >>
>> >> > Nevertheless, changing the colour of '3D Objects' in Windows 'Advanced
>> >> > Appearance' options, automatically adjusts the colour of the 'Disabled
>> >> > Item' Font (among other things) to harmonise with the colour of '3D
>> >> > Objects'.
>> >>
>> >> > In Vista and Windows 7, one can change the 'Disabled Item' Font and this
>> >> > will not affect other 'Advanced Appearance' settings.
>> >>
>> >> > Thus, for Windows Live Mail in Windows Vista and Windows 7, changing the
>> >> > colour of the light grey 'Read' messages (in One-line view) is as simple
>> >> > as changing the colour of the 'Disabled Item' font through the 'Advanced
>> >> > Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties' as follows:
>> >>
>> >> > Vista: Control Panel->Windows Color and Appearance->'Open classic
>> >> > appearance properties for more color options'->Advanced
>> >> > [button]->Item:->'Disabled Item'->Color:
>> >>
>> >> > 7: Control Panel->Appearance and Personalization->Personalization
>> >> > [section]->'Change window glass colors'->'Advanced appearance
>> >> > settings...->Item:->'Disabled Item'->Color:
>> >>
>> >> > XP: Control Panel->Display->Appearance [tab]->Advanced
>> >> > [button]->Item:->"3D Objects"->Color 1
>> >>
>> >> > The application of a 'Theme' or 'Skin' will override these settings.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Ritter 197" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:BEFEFF19-0320-4C6F-8E6C-...
>> >> > So do I. This color is terrible to read and see.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Martin Riddle" <> wrote in message
>> >> > news:u$...
>> >> >> Use the Help->Send Feedback option.
>> >> >> I do prefer the prior version color scheme over this one.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also the color picker tool is broken.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Furry Atlas" <> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:39C80ABC-F882-490F-A810-...
>> >> >>> Hi
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> just updated to latest version of Windows Live Mail. I hope I can get
>> >> >>> some answers.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 1. Message lists are far, far, far too light to be useable. I mean even
>> >> >>> the darkest lonely bolded sender is just a light grey! Everything else
>> >> >>> that's unbolded is virtually white in comparison!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I gather microsoft thought it was ok and have made it impossible to
>> >> >>> customise other than working around it by setting up a whole lot of
>> >> >>> rules etc. Is this correct?
>> >> >>> (I notice in all the screenshots on all the official and promotional
>> >> >>> pages the message lists are shown to be a little darker than they
>> >> >>> actually are on users screens. How did this happen?)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I really can't use the current display - it literally gives me a
>> >> >>> headache!
>> >> >>> Does microsoft intend to fix this at all? And if so, when?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> If it's not going to be fixed, I am prepared to just move on.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 2. Pastel colour schemes are also far too light or garish.
>> >> >>> Ditto as above - vista colour schemes are fine - WLM schemes are not
>> >> >>> fine - is there an intention to align the WLM with the Vista schemes?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 3. Why don't Microsoft listen and respond to people?
>> >> >>> If it's not one obviously annoying unpopular but very basic thing, it's
>> >> >>> another. Impossibly light colour schemes (WLM), inability to show image
>> >> >>> attachments inline (outlook), folder views forgotten and no
>> >> >>> customisation of folder toolbar buttons (vista), list goes on and on.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I'm sorry - I don't understand why Microsoft deliberately stuff up
>> >> >>> simple and fundamental things and leave them unfixed. It just makes my
>> >> >>> user experience one of frustration and resentment rather than ease.
>> >> >>> Hence my vent.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> thanks
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Joe.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >>

>> .
>>

 
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briantx
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      01-02-2010
Loaded the latest version of WLM on my new computer (great screen and W7).
WLM has worked great but the font in the panes is so faded and hard to read.
I have tried all the suggestions (change appearance font size, calibrate
true text, change windows glass appearance, advanced settings, diabled items,
etc). Nothing has made it easier to see. too much pastel and small font.

Readability is the only area where WLM really loses to OE6. However its all
about readability.




 
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Gary VanderMolen \(MVP\)
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      01-04-2010
There have been many complaints about the poor legibility of the
grayed-out fonts used in Windows Live Mail. Hopefully that issue will
be fixed in the next release. Submit feedback to Microsoft here:
https://feedback.live.com/default.as...=wlmaildesktop

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen


"briantx" <> wrote in message news:5F58B43E-770F-4D01-919E-...
> Loaded the latest version of WLM on my new computer (great screen and W7).
> WLM has worked great but the font in the panes is so faded and hard to read.
> I have tried all the suggestions (change appearance font size, calibrate
> true text, change windows glass appearance, advanced settings, diabled items,
> etc). Nothing has made it easier to see. too much pastel and small font.
>
> Readability is the only area where WLM really loses to OE6. However its all
> about readability.

 
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...winston
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      01-04-2010
Sorry, that's is all there is..

Font Color – Gray Text of Read Messages in Windows Live Mail 2009
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!953.entry

As noted...Send Feedback and hope for the best

How does readability work for you regarding the Office Ribbon ?
Not sure how accurate this is/was/will be.....since nothing official has been released but this supposed rendition appeared in a
variety of public locations.
http://tinyurl.com/yzvr5og


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"briantx" <> wrote in message news:5F58B43E-770F-4D01-919E-...
> Loaded the latest version of WLM on my new computer (great screen and W7).
> WLM has worked great but the font in the panes is so faded and hard to read.
> I have tried all the suggestions (change appearance font size, calibrate
> true text, change windows glass appearance, advanced settings, diabled items,
> etc). Nothing has made it easier to see. too much pastel and small font.
>
> Readability is the only area where WLM really loses to OE6. However its all
> about readability.
>
>
>
>

 
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Rick
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      05-27-2010



"Furry Atlas" wrote:

> Hi
>
> just updated to latest version of Windows Live Mail. I hope I can get some
> answers.
>
> 1. Message lists are far, far, far too light to be useable. I mean even the
> darkest lonely bolded sender is just a light grey! Everything else that's
> unbolded is virtually white in comparison!
>
> I gather microsoft thought it was ok and have made it impossible to
> customise other than working around it by setting up a whole lot of rules
> etc. Is this correct?
> (I notice in all the screenshots on all the official and promotional pages
> the message lists are shown to be a little darker than they actually are on
> users screens. How did this happen?)
>
> I really can't use the current display - it literally gives me a headache!
> Does microsoft intend to fix this at all? And if so, when?
>
> If it's not going to be fixed, I am prepared to just move on.
>
> 2. Pastel colour schemes are also far too light or garish.
> Ditto as above - vista colour schemes are fine - WLM schemes are not fine -
> is there an intention to align the WLM with the Vista schemes?
>
> 3. Why don't Microsoft listen and respond to people?
> If it's not one obviously annoying unpopular but very basic thing, it's
> another. Impossibly light colour schemes (WLM), inability to show image
> attachments inline (outlook), folder views forgotten and no customisation
> of folder toolbar buttons (vista), list goes on and on.
>
> I'm sorry - I don't understand why Microsoft deliberately stuff up simple
> and fundamental things and leave them unfixed. It just makes my user
> experience one of frustration and resentment rather than ease. Hence my
> vent.
>
> thanks
>
> Joe.
>
>
> I totally agree with you. I like Outlook and Windows Mail was also OK, but this windows live mail isn't as good as those in my opinion. Also in Outlook I was able to fix my email where they could not be gotten into if one didn't know my password. It prevented them form opening the program.


I would really like to be able to darken the fonts and color schemes and
change the text sizes.
 
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Nancy Jackman
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      05-28-2010
Spot on!

Nancy

"Rick" <> wrote in message
news:0689F75E-F46A-40BD-BDA0-...
>
>
> "Furry Atlas" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> just updated to latest version of Windows Live Mail. I hope I can get
>> some
>> answers.
>>
>> 1. Message lists are far, far, far too light to be useable. I mean even
>> the
>> darkest lonely bolded sender is just a light grey! Everything else that's
>> unbolded is virtually white in comparison!
>>
>> I gather microsoft thought it was ok and have made it impossible to
>> customise other than working around it by setting up a whole lot of rules
>> etc. Is this correct?
>> (I notice in all the screenshots on all the official and promotional
>> pages
>> the message lists are shown to be a little darker than they actually are
>> on
>> users screens. How did this happen?)
>>
>> I really can't use the current display - it literally gives me a
>> headache!
>> Does microsoft intend to fix this at all? And if so, when?
>>
>> If it's not going to be fixed, I am prepared to just move on.
>>
>> 2. Pastel colour schemes are also far too light or garish.
>> Ditto as above - vista colour schemes are fine - WLM schemes are not
>> fine -
>> is there an intention to align the WLM with the Vista schemes?
>>
>> 3. Why don't Microsoft listen and respond to people?
>> If it's not one obviously annoying unpopular but very basic thing, it's
>> another. Impossibly light colour schemes (WLM), inability to show image
>> attachments inline (outlook), folder views forgotten and no
>> customisation
>> of folder toolbar buttons (vista), list goes on and on.
>>
>> I'm sorry - I don't understand why Microsoft deliberately stuff up simple
>> and fundamental things and leave them unfixed. It just makes my user
>> experience one of frustration and resentment rather than ease. Hence my
>> vent.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Joe.
>>
>>
>> I totally agree with you. I like Outlook and Windows Mail was also OK,
>> but this windows live mail isn't as good as those in my opinion. Also in
>> Outlook I was able to fix my email where they could not be gotten into if
>> one didn't know my password. It prevented them form opening the program.

>
> I would really like to be able to darken the fonts and color schemes and
> change the text sizes.


 
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...winston
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      05-28-2010
Any one with access to your profile on your machine..always had the ability to access your mail store containing the messages(in
Outlook Express, Outlook, Windows Mail)

If you need to prevent someone from accessing your email, ensure your Windows profile has a password, then logoff Windows or use
the Windows feature to lock the machine to prevent access to your profile.



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"Rick" <> wrote in message news:0689F75E-F46A-40BD-BDA0-...
>> I totally agree with you. I like Outlook and Windows Mail was also OK, but this windows live mail isn't as good as those in my
>> opinion. Also in Outlook I was able to fix my email where they could not be gotten into if one didn't know my password. It
>> prevented them form opening the program.



 
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