Configure Server 2008 to join SBS 2003 Domain

Client has an exisiting 2003 SBS Domain. They purchased Server 2008 Ent
Edition and that will be setup and configured with a software application and
users before it is sent to the site that has the 2003 SBS. 10 machines are
also being configured to connect to the 2008 Server before the server and
computers are sent to the 2003 SBS location. Can the 2008 server be setup as
a domain before it is shipped and then moved to the SBS 2003 domain once it
gets there?
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Pat

In a word, no. You can't join a computer to a domain without connecting to
the domain. And any users you add to the computer will be _local_ accounts,
not domain accounts.

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"pat@arms" <> wrote in message
news:7E1A14F4-AF1C-479D-8396-...
> Client has an exisiting 2003 SBS Domain. They purchased Server 2008 Ent
> Edition and that will be setup and configured with a software application
> and
> users before it is sent to the site that has the 2003 SBS. 10 machines are
> also being configured to connect to the 2008 Server before the server and
> computers are sent to the 2003 SBS location. Can the 2008 server be setup
> as
> a domain before it is shipped and then moved to the SBS 2003 domain once
> it
> gets there?
> --
> Pat

pat@arms wrote:
> Client has an exisiting 2003 SBS Domain. They purchased Server 2008
> Ent Edition and that will be setup and configured with a software
> application and users before it is sent to the site that has the 2003
> SBS. 10 machines are also being configured to connect to the 2008
> Server before the server and computers are sent to the 2003 SBS
> location. Can the 2008 server be setup as a domain before it is
> shipped and then moved to the SBS 2003 domain once it gets there?

Not today, not with any current SBS version, but a new feature in Server
2008 R2 / Windows 7 does allow offline domain joins. So, someday in the SBS
world it may be possible, but not yet.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...67(WS.10).aspx

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/kj

So where's my flying car kj?
I was promised in the year 2000
Oh that wasn't your promise.. never mind

Russ

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"kj [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> pat@arms wrote:
>> Client has an exisiting 2003 SBS Domain. They purchased Server 2008
>> Ent Edition and that will be setup and configured with a software
>> application and users before it is sent to the site that has the 2003
>> SBS. 10 machines are also being configured to connect to the 2008
>> Server before the server and computers are sent to the 2003 SBS
>> location. Can the 2008 server be setup as a domain before it is
>> shipped and then moved to the SBS 2003 domain once it gets there?
>
> Not today, not with any current SBS version, but a new feature in Server
> 2008 R2 / Windows 7 does allow offline domain joins. So, someday in the
> SBS world it may be possible, but not yet.
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...67(WS.10).aspx
>
> --
> /kj
>

Thinking out loud here...

How about installing the Win2008 Ent as a DC on a 64-bit capable laptop (do
not activate it), take it to the main office, join it to the domain,
replicate AD, then bring it back to the shop. Then install Win2008 Ent on
the new server hardware as a DC and replicate AD from the laptop DC to new
server hardware. Would that work? If it would, you might also be able to
create a Win2008 virtual machine on a 64-bit laptop where Hyper-V has been
installed and then use that VM for replicating the AD.

Or maybe even installing Disk2VHD to the SBS 2003 at the main office, and
creating a VHD of the SBS 2003 to an external USB drive. Then bring the
ext. drive back to the shop and create a VM with it on a server with Hyper-V
installed. Then do the AD replication.

You *may* have to refrain from any further AD updates in the SBS 2003 server
after capturing the VM, until the new server was in place at the main
office.

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Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
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"kj [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> pat@arms wrote:
>> Client has an exisiting 2003 SBS Domain. They purchased Server 2008
>> Ent Edition and that will be setup and configured with a software
>> application and users before it is sent to the site that has the 2003
>> SBS. 10 machines are also being configured to connect to the 2008
>> Server before the server and computers are sent to the 2003 SBS
>> location. Can the 2008 server be setup as a domain before it is
>> shipped and then moved to the SBS 2003 domain once it gets there?
>
> Not today, not with any current SBS version, but a new feature in Server
> 2008 R2 / Windows 7 does allow offline domain joins. So, someday in the
> SBS world it may be possible, but not yet.
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...67(WS.10).aspx
>
> --
> /kj
>

You've been watching too many reruns of The Jetson's, Russ. And maybe
there's still time since they were set in the year 2062. :-)

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Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================

"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:#hya#...
> So where's my flying car kj?
> I was promised in the year 2000
> Oh that wasn't your promise.. never mind
>
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
> World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
> Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com
>
>
> "kj [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> pat@arms wrote:
>>> Client has an exisiting 2003 SBS Domain. They purchased Server 2008
>>> Ent Edition and that will be setup and configured with a software
>>> application and users before it is sent to the site that has the 2003
>>> SBS. 10 machines are also being configured to connect to the 2008
>>> Server before the server and computers are sent to the 2003 SBS
>>> location. Can the 2008 server be setup as a domain before it is
>>> shipped and then moved to the SBS 2003 domain once it gets there?
>>
>> Not today, not with any current SBS version, but a new feature in Server
>> 2008 R2 / Windows 7 does allow offline domain joins. So, someday in the
>> SBS world it may be possible, but not yet.
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...67(WS.10).aspx
>>
>> --
>> /kj
>>

It's sitting in the Boeing aviation museum in Seattle. Unclaimed, I presume
;-).

I think I have a photo somewhere .....

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Les Connor [SBS MVP]

"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:#hya#...
> So where's my flying car kj?
> I was promised in the year 2000
> Oh that wasn't your promise.. never mind
>
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
> World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
> Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com
>
>
> "kj [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> pat@arms wrote:
>>> Client has an exisiting 2003 SBS Domain. They purchased Server 2008
>>> Ent Edition and that will be setup and configured with a software
>>> application and users before it is sent to the site that has the 2003
>>> SBS. 10 machines are also being configured to connect to the 2008
>>> Server before the server and computers are sent to the 2003 SBS
>>> location. Can the 2008 server be setup as a domain before it is
>>> shipped and then moved to the SBS 2003 domain once it gets there?
>>
>> Not today, not with any current SBS version, but a new feature in Server
>> 2008 R2 / Windows 7 does allow offline domain joins. So, someday in the
>> SBS world it may be possible, but not yet.
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...67(WS.10).aspx
>>
>> --
>> /kj
>>

Wow you are just 5hrs north of me (portland)
I should come and visit!
RUss

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Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com


"Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> It's sitting in the Boeing aviation museum in Seattle. Unclaimed, I
> presume ;-).
>
> I think I have a photo somewhere .....
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------
> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
>
> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:#hya#...
>> So where's my flying car kj?
>> I was promised in the year 2000
>> Oh that wasn't your promise.. never mind
>>
>> Russ
>>
>> --
>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
>> World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>> Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com
>>
>>
>> "kj [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> pat@arms wrote:
>>>> Client has an exisiting 2003 SBS Domain. They purchased Server 2008
>>>> Ent Edition and that will be setup and configured with a software
>>>> application and users before it is sent to the site that has the 2003
>>>> SBS. 10 machines are also being configured to connect to the 2008
>>>> Server before the server and computers are sent to the 2003 SBS
>>>> location. Can the 2008 server be setup as a domain before it is
>>>> shipped and then moved to the SBS 2003 domain once it gets there?
>>>
>>> Not today, not with any current SBS version, but a new feature in Server
>>> 2008 R2 / Windows 7 does allow offline domain joins. So, someday in the
>>> SBS world it may be possible, but not yet.
>>>
>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...67(WS.10).aspx
>>>
>>> --
>>> /kj
>>>

No, I'm not - but the car with wings is.

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Les Connor [SBS MVP]

"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Wow you are just 5hrs north of me (portland)
> I should come and visit!
> RUss
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
> World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
> Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com
>
>
> "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> It's sitting in the Boeing aviation museum in Seattle. Unclaimed, I
>> presume ;-).
>>
>> I think I have a photo somewhere .....
>>
>> --
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
>>
>> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <> wrote in message
>> news:#hya#...
>>> So where's my flying car kj?
>>> I was promised in the year 2000
>>> Oh that wasn't your promise.. never mind
>>>
>>> Russ
>>>
>>> --
>>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
>>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
>>> World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>>> Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com
>>>
>>>
>>> "kj [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> pat@arms wrote:
>>>>> Client has an exisiting 2003 SBS Domain. They purchased Server 2008
>>>>> Ent Edition and that will be setup and configured with a software
>>>>> application and users before it is sent to the site that has the 2003
>>>>> SBS. 10 machines are also being configured to connect to the 2008
>>>>> Server before the server and computers are sent to the 2003 SBS
>>>>> location. Can the 2008 server be setup as a domain before it is
>>>>> shipped and then moved to the SBS 2003 domain once it gets there?
>>>>
>>>> Not today, not with any current SBS version, but a new feature in
>>>> Server 2008 R2 / Windows 7 does allow offline domain joins. So, someday
>>>> in the SBS world it may be possible, but not yet.
>>>>
>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...67(WS.10).aspx
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> /kj
>>>>

oh I see
Is it an older car like 60's?
I think a guy from Longview Washington Made it?
(Just north of here near my home town of Kelso)

Detroit wouldn't touch it.
and the FAA didn't like it at all..


Russ

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Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com


"Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> No, I'm not - but the car with wings is.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------
> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
>
> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Wow you are just 5hrs north of me (portland)
>> I should come and visit!
>> RUss
>>
>> --
>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
>> World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>> Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com
>>
>>
>> "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> It's sitting in the Boeing aviation museum in Seattle. Unclaimed, I
>>> presume ;-).
>>>
>>> I think I have a photo somewhere .....
>>>
>>> --
>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
>>>
>>> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <> wrote in message
>>> news:#hya#...
>>>> So where's my flying car kj?
>>>> I was promised in the year 2000
>>>> Oh that wasn't your promise.. never mind
>>>>
>>>> Russ
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>>>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
>>>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
>>>> World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
>>>> Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "kj [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> pat@arms wrote:
>>>>>> Client has an exisiting 2003 SBS Domain. They purchased Server 2008
>>>>>> Ent Edition and that will be setup and configured with a software
>>>>>> application and users before it is sent to the site that has the 2003
>>>>>> SBS. 10 machines are also being configured to connect to the 2008
>>>>>> Server before the server and computers are sent to the 2003 SBS
>>>>>> location. Can the 2008 server be setup as a domain before it is
>>>>>> shipped and then moved to the SBS 2003 domain once it gets there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not today, not with any current SBS version, but a new feature in
>>>>> Server 2008 R2 / Windows 7 does allow offline domain joins. So,
>>>>> someday in the SBS world it may be possible, but not yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...67(WS.10).aspx
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> /kj
>>>>>