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sawyer
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      01-22-2010
Hello all

I have a standard primary zone that's running on a 2003 DC, currently we are
using DNS replication to copy this zone to other DC\DNS servers. We
basically create a secondary zone on the other DC's and then setup zone
replication from the primary to the secondary DC\DNS servers. I know want to
convert this zone to AD integrated, but I want to make sure that after the
zone has been converted, it will still keep the list of servers that are
setup in the zone transfers tab on the primary zone? I understand that
before I convert the zone to AD integrated I will have to delete the
secondary zones on all the DC\DNS servers that currently have a secondary
copy of this zone, but we also replicate this zone to 3rd party devices like
F5's and such and these devices require a copy of this zone. So again after
the zone has been changed will it keep the listing of servers that are
listed in the zone transfers tab? and will it continue to all the zone to be
copied to 3rd party devices after the zone has been changed from primary to
AD integrated?

Many thanks

 
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Danny Sanders
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      01-22-2010
AFAIK yes.


hth
DDS

"sawyer" <> wrote in message
news:1DA48239-0062-4AF0-B6EB-...
> Hello all
>
> I have a standard primary zone that's running on a 2003 DC, currently we
> are using DNS replication to copy this zone to other DC\DNS servers. We
> basically create a secondary zone on the other DC's and then setup zone
> replication from the primary to the secondary DC\DNS servers. I know want
> to convert this zone to AD integrated, but I want to make sure that after
> the zone has been converted, it will still keep the list of servers that
> are setup in the zone transfers tab on the primary zone? I understand
> that before I convert the zone to AD integrated I will have to delete the
> secondary zones on all the DC\DNS servers that currently have a secondary
> copy of this zone, but we also replicate this zone to 3rd party devices
> like F5's and such and these devices require a copy of this zone. So again
> after the zone has been changed will it keep the listing of servers that
> are listed in the zone transfers tab? and will it continue to all the zone
> to be copied to 3rd party devices after the zone has been changed from
> primary to AD integrated?
>
> Many thanks



 
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Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]
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      01-22-2010

"sawyer" <> wrote in message
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> Hello all
>
> I have a standard primary zone that's running on a 2003 DC, currently we
> are using DNS replication to copy this zone to other DC\DNS servers. We
> basically create a secondary zone on the other DC's and then setup zone
> replication from the primary to the secondary DC\DNS servers. I know want
> to convert this zone to AD integrated, but I want to make sure that after
> the zone has been converted, it will still keep the list of servers that
> are setup in the zone transfers tab on the primary zone? I understand
> that before I convert the zone to AD integrated I will have to delete the
> secondary zones on all the DC\DNS servers that currently have a secondary
> copy of this zone, but we also replicate this zone to 3rd party devices
> like F5's and such and these devices require a copy of this zone. So again
> after the zone has been changed will it keep the listing of servers that
> are listed in the zone transfers tab? and will it continue to all the zone
> to be copied to 3rd party devices after the zone has been changed from
> primary to AD integrated?
>
> Many thanks



Hi sawyer,

I'm trying to follow the steps you mentioned, but I'm having difficulty
following them.

What I can say that if the zone is an AD integrated zone, it *automatically*
replicates to all DCs within its replication scope settings. If you
currently have a Primary Standard zoine (not in AD) with the other DCs
having a Secondary zone copy of it, and you change the Primary Standard zone
to AD Integrated, AD will automatically convert the Secondary zones to AD
integrated. There is no reason to delete the secondaries manually, nor to
create the zone manually after changing it to AD integrated. You let it do
it automaticatlly. It works nicely. If you do create it manually on other
DCs after you've changed the zone to AD integrated, what I can tell you is
that you will create a duplicate zone scenario in the AD database. TO find
out if this occured, you can use ADSIEdit to find and delete them. My blog
should help you with this, just to determine at least if you have any dupes.


Using ADSI Edit to Resolve Conflicting or Duplicate AD Integrated DNS zones
http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/arc...dns-zones.aspx

As for zone transfers, AD integrated zones or standard Primary/Sewcondaries
can still allow zone transfers. Once you change a zone to AD Integrated, it
will disable the zone transfer allowance. you will have to go into the zone
properties and allow it again.

As for the nameservers tab, it will automatically replicate to all DC once
changed to AD integrated. This means ALL info about a zone. You will see
thaty ALL DCs will be authorative for an AD integrated zone. Remember, AD
Integration is a multi-master Primary design, hence why they are all
nameserver for the zone.

However, if you had manually created a zone on another DC that was already
in the AD database (but hasn't replicated over yet - patience??) then a dupe
scenario will happen.YOu have to be careful with this. AD integrated zones
just work automatically. ALl you do is change it on one, and everything
(zone data, configuration, nameservers, etc, etc etc) all replicate. If you
do it manually on another server, expect problems.

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Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE &
MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
Microsoft Certified Trainer
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services

If you feel this is an urgent issue and require immediate assistance, please
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sawyer
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      01-22-2010
Thanks Ace, you did a great job interpreting what my concerns were. You
answered all my questions, and educated me on something I didn't know. I
didn't realize that I didn't have to delete the secondary zones on the other
DC\DNS servers before I converted the primary zone to AD integrated. From
what you are saying the conversion of the zones from secondary to AD
integrated will happen automatically by AD?

thanks very much?

"Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <> wrote in message
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> "sawyer" <> wrote in message
> news:1DA48239-0062-4AF0-B6EB-...
>> Hello all
>>
>> I have a standard primary zone that's running on a 2003 DC, currently we
>> are using DNS replication to copy this zone to other DC\DNS servers. We
>> basically create a secondary zone on the other DC's and then setup zone
>> replication from the primary to the secondary DC\DNS servers. I know want
>> to convert this zone to AD integrated, but I want to make sure that after
>> the zone has been converted, it will still keep the list of servers that
>> are setup in the zone transfers tab on the primary zone? I understand
>> that before I convert the zone to AD integrated I will have to delete the
>> secondary zones on all the DC\DNS servers that currently have a secondary
>> copy of this zone, but we also replicate this zone to 3rd party devices
>> like F5's and such and these devices require a copy of this zone. So
>> again after the zone has been changed will it keep the listing of servers
>> that are listed in the zone transfers tab? and will it continue to all
>> the zone to be copied to 3rd party devices after the zone has been
>> changed from primary to AD integrated?
>>
>> Many thanks

>
>
> Hi sawyer,
>
> I'm trying to follow the steps you mentioned, but I'm having difficulty
> following them.
>
> What I can say that if the zone is an AD integrated zone, it
> *automatically* replicates to all DCs within its replication scope
> settings. If you currently have a Primary Standard zoine (not in AD) with
> the other DCs having a Secondary zone copy of it, and you change the
> Primary Standard zone to AD Integrated, AD will automatically convert the
> Secondary zones to AD integrated. There is no reason to delete the
> secondaries manually, nor to create the zone manually after changing it to
> AD integrated. You let it do it automaticatlly. It works nicely. If you do
> create it manually on other DCs after you've changed the zone to AD
> integrated, what I can tell you is that you will create a duplicate zone
> scenario in the AD database. TO find out if this occured, you can use
> ADSIEdit to find and delete them. My blog should help you with this, just
> to determine at least if you have any dupes.
>
>
> Using ADSI Edit to Resolve Conflicting or Duplicate AD Integrated DNS
> zones
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/arc...dns-zones.aspx
>
> As for zone transfers, AD integrated zones or standard
> Primary/Sewcondaries can still allow zone transfers. Once you change a
> zone to AD Integrated, it will disable the zone transfer allowance. you
> will have to go into the zone properties and allow it again.
>
> As for the nameservers tab, it will automatically replicate to all DC once
> changed to AD integrated. This means ALL info about a zone. You will see
> thaty ALL DCs will be authorative for an AD integrated zone. Remember, AD
> Integration is a multi-master Primary design, hence why they are all
> nameserver for the zone.
>
> However, if you had manually created a zone on another DC that was already
> in the AD database (but hasn't replicated over yet - patience??) then a
> dupe scenario will happen.YOu have to be careful with this. AD integrated
> zones just work automatically. ALl you do is change it on one, and
> everything (zone data, configuration, nameservers, etc, etc etc) all
> replicate. If you do it manually on another server, expect problems.
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit
> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your
> resolution.
>
> Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE &
> MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
>
> If you feel this is an urgent issue and require immediate assistance,
> please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>

 
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Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]
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      01-22-2010
"sawyer" <> wrote in message
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> Thanks Ace, you did a great job interpreting what my concerns were. You
> answered all my questions, and educated me on something I didn't know. I
> didn't realize that I didn't have to delete the secondary zones on the
> other DC\DNS servers before I converted the primary zone to AD integrated.
> From what you are saying the conversion of the zones from secondary to AD
> integrated will happen automatically by AD?
>


You betcha!

> thanks very much?


You are welcome!

Ace





 
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