Copying Large Files Over The Network....Extreamly SLOW

I have noticed that when copying files over a network I am experiencing
incredibly poor performance, even calculating the time to move the files
takes just as long as actually moving the damn files! As this is one of the
most basic features of an OS, you'd think that MS would have at the very
least ensured it would work correctly.

Seems MS spent more time making things look pretty than actually making sure
the basics work. On several occasions I've had to leave it copying files
overnight as it was going to take 3 hours to move 200Mb of files -
ridiculous. XP shifted the files in a couple of minutes.

I can't believe that this problem did not exist pre-release........... and
MS released Vista anyway. There has to be a class action here somewhere???


I have tried:

1. Running "netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disable" (Did Not Work)

2. Installing the hotfix explained at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/931770 (Did Not Work)

2a. Hotfixes can be found here:
http://hotfix.xable.net/download/ind...Neutral/Vista/

3. Tried going to Control Panel -> Programs And Features and unchecked
"Remote Differential Compression" (Did Not Work)

4. Disabling the Windows Search service "SearchIndexer.exe" (Did Not Work)

5. Tried going to Control panel -> Folder options -> Show Icons, Never
Thumbnails (Did Not Work)

6. Disabling the Windows Explorer Navigation Pane. To do that, Click Start,
and then click Computer. In the top menu, select Organize, Layout, and then
click Navigation Pane. (Did Not Work)

7. Map a network drive to the folder that contains the files that you want
to copy. (Did Not Work)

8. Use Robocopy or xcopy. For example, type the following command at a
command prompt, and then press ENTER: Robocopy source_path destination_path
file_name (HAVE NOT TRIED THIS ONE)!!!!

I am all out of ideas. This is a real MS problem. This is one problem that
could take Vista right out of the picture............ for good. Looks like
MS dropped the ball on Vista....even more so than with WinME, but that's
another story.


Randy D

"-Draino-" <> wrote in message
news:6815257C-8E5D-4A91-BD2C-...
>
> I have noticed that when copying files over a network I am experiencing
> incredibly poor performance, even calculating the time to move the files
> takes just as long as actually moving the damn files! As this is one of
> the most basic features of an OS, you'd think that MS would have at the
> very least ensured it would work correctly.
>
> Seems MS spent more time making things look pretty than actually making
> sure the basics work. On several occasions I've had to leave it copying
> files overnight as it was going to take 3 hours to move 200Mb of files -
> ridiculous. XP shifted the files in a couple of minutes.
>
> I can't believe that this problem did not exist pre-release........... and
> MS released Vista anyway. There has to be a class action here somewhere???
>
>
> I have tried:
>
> 1. Running "netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disable" (Did Not
> Work)
>
> 2. Installing the hotfix explained at:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/931770 (Did Not Work)
>
> 2a. Hotfixes can be found here:
> http://hotfix.xable.net/download/ind...Neutral/Vista/
>
> 3. Tried going to Control Panel -> Programs And Features and unchecked
> "Remote Differential Compression" (Did Not Work)
>
> 4. Disabling the Windows Search service "SearchIndexer.exe" (Did Not Work)
>
> 5. Tried going to Control panel -> Folder options -> Show Icons, Never
> Thumbnails (Did Not Work)
>
> 6. Disabling the Windows Explorer Navigation Pane. To do that, Click
> Start, and then click Computer. In the top menu, select Organize, Layout,
> and then click Navigation Pane. (Did Not Work)
>
> 7. Map a network drive to the folder that contains the files that you want
> to copy. (Did Not Work)
>
> 8. Use Robocopy or xcopy. For example, type the following command at a
> command prompt, and then press ENTER: Robocopy source_path
> destination_path file_name (HAVE NOT TRIED THIS ONE)!!!!
>
> I am all out of ideas. This is a real MS problem. This is one problem that
> could take Vista right out of the picture............ for good. Looks like
> MS dropped the ball on Vista....even more so than with WinME, but that's
> another story.
>
>
> Randy D

I've found that the speed depends on the number of files you are copying. If
I copy one or a few large files my upload speed is around 50Mbps. If I
attempt to copy a folder with 3500 small files (62MB) my upload speed is
UNDER 1Mbps and estimate is 6 hours. And like you said it takes some time
before the upload begins. And when it is happening there is back and forth
data transfer. About the same speed up and down. 1Mbps up and 1Mbps down. So
there is a whole lot of handshaking going on. And the copy often stops to
ask me questions so it can not be done unattended.
I am using DU Meter to measure these speeds.

Hi
Have you tried using the network connection properties dialog to disable
ipv6 support on the affected interface? Unless, of course, you have a
network that supports this.
Cheers

-Draino- wrote:
>
> I have noticed that when copying files over a network I am experiencing
> incredibly poor performance, even calculating the time to move the files
> takes just as long as actually moving the damn files! As this is one of
> the most basic features of an OS, you'd think that MS would have at the
> very least ensured it would work correctly.
>
> Seems MS spent more time making things look pretty than actually making
> sure the basics work. On several occasions I've had to leave it copying
> files overnight as it was going to take 3 hours to move 200Mb of files -
> ridiculous. XP shifted the files in a couple of minutes.
>
> I can't believe that this problem did not exist pre-release...........
> and MS released Vista anyway. There has to be a class action here
> somewhere???
>
>
> I have tried:
>
> 1. Running "netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disable" (Did Not
> Work)
>
> 2. Installing the hotfix explained at:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/931770 (Did Not Work)
>
> 2a. Hotfixes can be found here:
> http://hotfix.xable.net/download/ind...Neutral/Vista/
>
> 3. Tried going to Control Panel -> Programs And Features and unchecked
> "Remote Differential Compression" (Did Not Work)
>
> 4. Disabling the Windows Search service "SearchIndexer.exe" (Did Not Work)
>
> 5. Tried going to Control panel -> Folder options -> Show Icons, Never
> Thumbnails (Did Not Work)
>
> 6. Disabling the Windows Explorer Navigation Pane. To do that, Click
> Start, and then click Computer. In the top menu, select Organize,
> Layout, and then click Navigation Pane. (Did Not Work)
>
> 7. Map a network drive to the folder that contains the files that you
> want to copy. (Did Not Work)
>
> 8. Use Robocopy or xcopy. For example, type the following command at a
> command prompt, and then press ENTER: Robocopy source_path
> destination_path file_name (HAVE NOT TRIED THIS ONE)!!!!
>
> I am all out of ideas. This is a real MS problem. This is one problem
> that could take Vista right out of the picture............ for good.
> Looks like
> MS dropped the ball on Vista....even more so than with WinME, but that's
> another story.
>
>
> Randy D

Try looking at yourself! I have NO problems moving data on a network.
People like you DON"T deserve help, as you are to busy blaming others for
your mistakes and shortcomings.

Mick Murphy in Australia(QLD)

"-Draino-" wrote:

>
> I have noticed that when copying files over a network I am experiencing
> incredibly poor performance, even calculating the time to move the files
> takes just as long as actually moving the damn files! As this is one of the
> most basic features of an OS, you'd think that MS would have at the very
> least ensured it would work correctly.
>
> Seems MS spent more time making things look pretty than actually making sure
> the basics work. On several occasions I've had to leave it copying files
> overnight as it was going to take 3 hours to move 200Mb of files -
> ridiculous. XP shifted the files in a couple of minutes.
>
> I can't believe that this problem did not exist pre-release........... and
> MS released Vista anyway. There has to be a class action here somewhere???
>
>
> I have tried:
>
> 1. Running "netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disable" (Did Not Work)
>
> 2. Installing the hotfix explained at:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/931770 (Did Not Work)
>
> 2a. Hotfixes can be found here:
> http://hotfix.xable.net/download/ind...Neutral/Vista/
>
> 3. Tried going to Control Panel -> Programs And Features and unchecked
> "Remote Differential Compression" (Did Not Work)
>
> 4. Disabling the Windows Search service "SearchIndexer.exe" (Did Not Work)
>
> 5. Tried going to Control panel -> Folder options -> Show Icons, Never
> Thumbnails (Did Not Work)
>
> 6. Disabling the Windows Explorer Navigation Pane. To do that, Click Start,
> and then click Computer. In the top menu, select Organize, Layout, and then
> click Navigation Pane. (Did Not Work)
>
> 7. Map a network drive to the folder that contains the files that you want
> to copy. (Did Not Work)
>
> 8. Use Robocopy or xcopy. For example, type the following command at a
> command prompt, and then press ENTER: Robocopy source_path destination_path
> file_name (HAVE NOT TRIED THIS ONE)!!!!
>
> I am all out of ideas. This is a real MS problem. This is one problem that
> could take Vista right out of the picture............ for good. Looks like
> MS dropped the ball on Vista....even more so than with WinME, but that's
> another story.
>
>
> Randy D
>

That is a childish response. This is a known issue that is affecting many users.



"Mick" <> wrote in message
news:2EE8A8F4-45CC-4A86-9718-...
> Try looking at yourself! I have NO problems moving data on a network.
> People like you DON"T deserve help, as you are to busy blaming others for
> your mistakes and shortcomings.
>
> Mick Murphy in Australia(QLD)
>
> "-Draino-" wrote:
>
>>
>> I have noticed that when copying files over a network I am experiencing
>> incredibly poor performance, even calculating the time to move the files
>> takes just as long as actually moving the damn files! As this is one of the
>> most basic features of an OS, you'd think that MS would have at the very
>> least ensured it would work correctly.
>>
>> Seems MS spent more time making things look pretty than actually making sure
>> the basics work. On several occasions I've had to leave it copying files
>> overnight as it was going to take 3 hours to move 200Mb of files -
>> ridiculous. XP shifted the files in a couple of minutes.
>>
>> I can't believe that this problem did not exist pre-release........... and
>> MS released Vista anyway. There has to be a class action here somewhere???
>>
>>
>> I have tried:
>>
>> 1. Running "netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disable" (Did Not Work)
>>
>> 2. Installing the hotfix explained at:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/931770 (Did Not Work)
>>
>> 2a. Hotfixes can be found here:
>> http://hotfix.xable.net/download/ind...Neutral/Vista/
>>
>> 3. Tried going to Control Panel -> Programs And Features and unchecked
>> "Remote Differential Compression" (Did Not Work)
>>
>> 4. Disabling the Windows Search service "SearchIndexer.exe" (Did Not Work)
>>
>> 5. Tried going to Control panel -> Folder options -> Show Icons, Never
>> Thumbnails (Did Not Work)
>>
>> 6. Disabling the Windows Explorer Navigation Pane. To do that, Click Start,
>> and then click Computer. In the top menu, select Organize, Layout, and then
>> click Navigation Pane. (Did Not Work)
>>
>> 7. Map a network drive to the folder that contains the files that you want
>> to copy. (Did Not Work)
>>
>> 8. Use Robocopy or xcopy. For example, type the following command at a
>> command prompt, and then press ENTER: Robocopy source_path destination_path
>> file_name (HAVE NOT TRIED THIS ONE)!!!!
>>
>> I am all out of ideas. This is a real MS problem. This is one problem that
>> could take Vista right out of the picture............ for good. Looks like
>> MS dropped the ball on Vista....even more so than with WinME, but that's
>> another story.
>>
>>
>> Randy D
>>

"Mick" <> wrote in message
news:2EE8A8F4-45CC-4A86-9718-...
> Try looking at yourself! I have NO problems moving data on a network.
> People like you DON"T deserve help, as you are to busy blaming others for
> your mistakes and shortcomings.

As much as I usually like to mock people who start throwing words like
"lawsuit" and "class action" around for being the idiots they surely are,
the original poster actually has a point with the rest of his post.

There is a known issue with this on Vista, and if it has passed you by then
you are very lucky.

For anyone interested, hotfixes that aren't accesable via the corresponding
KB article can be requested using the form at
https://support.microsoft.com/common...ge=1&WS=hotfix.
There is no charge for this nor is there if you request a hotfix by phone.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"-Draino-" <> wrote in message
news:6815257C-8E5D-4A91-BD2C-...
>
> I have noticed that when copying files over a network I am experiencing
> incredibly poor performance, even calculating the time to move the files
> takes just as long as actually moving the damn files! As this is one of
> the most basic features of an OS, you'd think that MS would have at the
> very least ensured it would work correctly.
>
> Seems MS spent more time making things look pretty than actually making
> sure the basics work. On several occasions I've had to leave it copying
> files overnight as it was going to take 3 hours to move 200Mb of files -
> ridiculous. XP shifted the files in a couple of minutes.
>
> I can't believe that this problem did not exist pre-release........... and
> MS released Vista anyway. There has to be a class action here somewhere???
>
>
> I have tried:
>
> 1. Running "netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disable" (Did Not
> Work)
>
> 2. Installing the hotfix explained at:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/931770 (Did Not Work)
>
> 2a. Hotfixes can be found here:
> http://hotfix.xable.net/download/ind...Neutral/Vista/
>
> 3. Tried going to Control Panel -> Programs And Features and unchecked
> "Remote Differential Compression" (Did Not Work)
>
> 4. Disabling the Windows Search service "SearchIndexer.exe" (Did Not Work)
>
> 5. Tried going to Control panel -> Folder options -> Show Icons, Never
> Thumbnails (Did Not Work)
>
> 6. Disabling the Windows Explorer Navigation Pane. To do that, Click
> Start, and then click Computer. In the top menu, select Organize, Layout,
> and then click Navigation Pane. (Did Not Work)
>
> 7. Map a network drive to the folder that contains the files that you want
> to copy. (Did Not Work)
>
> 8. Use Robocopy or xcopy. For example, type the following command at a
> command prompt, and then press ENTER: Robocopy source_path
> destination_path file_name (HAVE NOT TRIED THIS ONE)!!!!
>
> I am all out of ideas. This is a real MS problem. This is one problem that
> could take Vista right out of the picture............ for good. Looks like
> MS dropped the ball on Vista....even more so than with WinME, but that's
> another story.
>
>
> Randy D

Leave "Product and Version Affected:" at the default value.
There was no Vista option in there.


On Apr 9, 11:07 pm, "Bruce Sanderson" <bsand...@newsgroups.nospam>
wrote:
> For anyone interested, hotfixes that aren't accesable via the corresponding
> KB article can be requested using the form athttps://support.microsoft.com/common/survey.aspx?scid=sw;en;1399&show....
> There is no charge for this nor is there if you request a hotfix by phone.
>
> --
> Bruce Sanderson MVP Printinghttp://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
>
> It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
>
> "-Draino-" <g...@unknown.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6815257C-8E5D-4A91-BD2C-...
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have noticed that when copying files over a network I am experiencing
> > incredibly poor performance, even calculating the time to move the files
> > takes just as long as actually moving the damn files! As this is one of
> > the most basic features of an OS, you'd think that MS would have at the
> > very least ensured it would work correctly.
>
> > Seems MS spent more time making things look pretty than actually making
> > sure the basics work. On several occasions I've had to leave it copying
> > files overnight as it was going to take 3 hours to move 200Mb of files -
> > ridiculous. XP shifted the files in a couple of minutes.
>
> > I can't believe that this problem did not exist pre-release........... and
> > MS released Vista anyway. There has to be a class action here somewhere???
>
> > I have tried:
>
> > 1. Running "netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disable" (Did Not
> > Work)
>
> > 2. Installing the hotfix explained at:
> >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/931770(Did Not Work)
>
> > 2a. Hotfixes can be found here:
> >http://hotfix.xable.net/download/ind...Neutral/Vista/
>
> > 3. Tried going to Control Panel -> Programs And Features and unchecked
> > "Remote Differential Compression" (Did Not Work)
>
> > 4. Disabling the Windows Search service "SearchIndexer.exe" (Did Not Work)
>
> > 5. Tried going to Control panel -> Folder options -> Show Icons, Never
> > Thumbnails (Did Not Work)
>
> > 6. Disabling the Windows Explorer Navigation Pane. To do that, Click
> > Start, and then click Computer. In the top menu, select Organize, Layout,
> > and then click Navigation Pane. (Did Not Work)
>
> > 7. Map a network drive to the folder that contains the files that you want
> > to copy. (Did Not Work)
>
> > 8. Use Robocopy or xcopy. For example, type the following command at a
> > command prompt, and then press ENTER: Robocopy source_path
> > destination_path file_name (HAVE NOT TRIED THIS ONE)!!!!
>
> > I am all out of ideas. This is a real MS problem. This is one problem that
> > could take Vista right out of the picture............ for good. Looks like
> > MS dropped the ball on Vista....even more so than with WinME, but that's
> > another story.
>
> > Randy D- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -