CPU upgrade = Worse performance?

Sean wrote:
> I am running Vista Ultimate x32. I recently upgraded my CPU from an AMD
> Athlon 64 3200+ Single core to an Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core. I have found
> that since the installation, Windows Vista has been running a lot more
> sluggish. Before the upgrade, Aero was smooth.. now browsing has seemed
> "labored" if you will. Scrolling up or down in IE is a lot slower than
> before, and moving open windows around is like trying to walk in 3 feet of
> water.
>
> Certain games will run extremely poor, or not run at all. Halo 2, for
> example, will run at no more than 2 - 3 frames per second, and sound will be
> choppy right along with it. GTA will not even function once past the loading
> screen. I thought graphics drivers were necessary, so I made sure those were
> updated, but that did not improve anything. Other games, however, like
> Half-Life 2 or Portal will run perfectly with no problems, even better than
> the old CPU.
>
> I checked to make sure that both cores were recognized, and they were. I
> downloaded the AMD Dual Core Optimizer, and no success. My motherboard does
> support the CPU with the latest BIOS, and I made sure it was updated.
>
> Essentially, Vista was running better with my older and slower CPU, but I
> don't want to downgrade, especially after buying the new CPU. I'd prefer to
> unleash the full power of the new CPU. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
>
> System Specs:
> Gigabyte GA-K8NSC939 Motherboard
> AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core CPU
> 2GB Kingston Dual Channel RAM
> XFX GeForce 7900GS 256mb AGP x8 Graphics
>
>


That's interesting, I have almost the same setup X 2 and my 3800 seems
to go faster than the dual core 4200 no matter what OS is in use. I
recently built a machine with a slightly newer MB and 4800 and it flies.

The speed difference is right across the board from first boot stuff.


Honestly I don't have time to investigate in depth, and it's not a huge
difference that bothers me, but it is something I was curious about.

Will be interesting to see what happens, I don't think it's anything to
do with Vista (In my specific case at least) since I see the same thing
running any OS and it makes no difference

Also seems to show up when booting, which I guess leaves BIOS but that
is allegedly compatible.


Sean wrote:
> I did a boot from the Vista DVD and ran the Startup Repair, but it did not
> detect any problems. I am going to try reinstalling Windows like Rick
> suggested, and we'll see if that repairs the slowdowns.
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
>
>> Boot from your Windows
>> Vista DVD, select the System Repair Option > on the setup screen, select
>> 'Repair Computer > Select your installation of Windows > select Startup
>> Repair option and follow instructions.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "Sean" <> wrote in message
>> news:E1B5DD43-AA33-48C2-8FB7-...
>>> I am running Vista Ultimate x32. I recently upgraded my CPU from an AMD
>>> Athlon 64 3200+ Single core to an Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core. I have
>>> found
>>> that since the installation, Windows Vista has been running a lot more
>>> sluggish. Before the upgrade, Aero was smooth.. now browsing has seemed
>>> "labored" if you will. Scrolling up or down in IE is a lot slower than
>>> before, and moving open windows around is like trying to walk in 3 feet of
>>> water.
>>>
>>> Certain games will run extremely poor, or not run at all. Halo 2, for
>>> example, will run at no more than 2 - 3 frames per second, and sound will
>>> be
>>> choppy right along with it. GTA will not even function once past the
>>> loading
>>> screen. I thought graphics drivers were necessary, so I made sure those
>>> were
>>> updated, but that did not improve anything. Other games, however, like
>>> Half-Life 2 or Portal will run perfectly with no problems, even better
>>> than
>>> the old CPU.
>>>
>>> I checked to make sure that both cores were recognized, and they were. I
>>> downloaded the AMD Dual Core Optimizer, and no success. My motherboard
>>> does
>>> support the CPU with the latest BIOS, and I made sure it was updated.
>>>
>>> Essentially, Vista was running better with my older and slower CPU, but I
>>> don't want to downgrade, especially after buying the new CPU. I'd prefer
>>> to
>>> unleash the full power of the new CPU. Any suggestions would be
>>> appreciated!
>>>
>>> System Specs:
>>> Gigabyte GA-K8NSC939 Motherboard
>>> AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core CPU
>>> 2GB Kingston Dual Channel RAM
>>> XFX GeForce 7900GS 256mb AGP x8 Graphics
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

I am running Vista Ultimate x32. I recently upgraded my CPU from an AMD
Athlon 64 3200+ Single core to an Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core. I have found
that since the installation, Windows Vista has been running a lot more
sluggish. Before the upgrade, Aero was smooth.. now browsing has seemed
"labored" if you will. Scrolling up or down in IE is a lot slower than
before, and moving open windows around is like trying to walk in 3 feet of
water.

Certain games will run extremely poor, or not run at all. Halo 2, for
example, will run at no more than 2 - 3 frames per second, and sound will be
choppy right along with it. GTA will not even function once past the loading
screen. I thought graphics drivers were necessary, so I made sure those were
updated, but that did not improve anything. Other games, however, like
Half-Life 2 or Portal will run perfectly with no problems, even better than
the old CPU.

I checked to make sure that both cores were recognized, and they were. I
downloaded the AMD Dual Core Optimizer, and no success. My motherboard does
support the CPU with the latest BIOS, and I made sure it was updated.

Essentially, Vista was running better with my older and slower CPU, but I
don't want to downgrade, especially after buying the new CPU. I'd prefer to
unleash the full power of the new CPU. Any suggestions would be appreciated!

System Specs:
Gigabyte GA-K8NSC939 Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core CPU
2GB Kingston Dual Channel RAM
XFX GeForce 7900GS 256mb AGP x8 Graphics

Hi,

Did you reinstall to rebuild the system files specific to the new
configuration? While it may be the same brand of processor, there are a
number of differences in the architecture and supporting files.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Sean" <> wrote in message
news:E1B5DD43-AA33-48C2-8FB7-...
>I am running Vista Ultimate x32. I recently upgraded my CPU from an AMD
> Athlon 64 3200+ Single core to an Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core. I have
> found
> that since the installation, Windows Vista has been running a lot more
> sluggish. Before the upgrade, Aero was smooth.. now browsing has seemed
> "labored" if you will. Scrolling up or down in IE is a lot slower than
> before, and moving open windows around is like trying to walk in 3 feet of
> water.
>
> Certain games will run extremely poor, or not run at all. Halo 2, for
> example, will run at no more than 2 - 3 frames per second, and sound will
> be
> choppy right along with it. GTA will not even function once past the
> loading
> screen. I thought graphics drivers were necessary, so I made sure those
> were
> updated, but that did not improve anything. Other games, however, like
> Half-Life 2 or Portal will run perfectly with no problems, even better
> than
> the old CPU.
>
> I checked to make sure that both cores were recognized, and they were. I
> downloaded the AMD Dual Core Optimizer, and no success. My motherboard
> does
> support the CPU with the latest BIOS, and I made sure it was updated.
>
> Essentially, Vista was running better with my older and slower CPU, but I
> don't want to downgrade, especially after buying the new CPU. I'd prefer
> to
> unleash the full power of the new CPU. Any suggestions would be
> appreciated!
>
> System Specs:
> Gigabyte GA-K8NSC939 Motherboard
> AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core CPU
> 2GB Kingston Dual Channel RAM
> XFX GeForce 7900GS 256mb AGP x8 Graphics
>
>

Perhaps you did not do a 'Vista Repair' from the installation disk on
bootup? Vista will need to re-write the HAL according to your new
2-core CPU.


--
majmac

AMD64x2 4600+

Boot from your Windows
Vista DVD, select the System Repair Option > on the setup screen, select
'Repair Computer > Select your installation of Windows > select Startup
Repair option and follow instructions.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Sean" <> wrote in message
news:E1B5DD43-AA33-48C2-8FB7-...
>I am running Vista Ultimate x32. I recently upgraded my CPU from an AMD
> Athlon 64 3200+ Single core to an Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core. I have
> found
> that since the installation, Windows Vista has been running a lot more
> sluggish. Before the upgrade, Aero was smooth.. now browsing has seemed
> "labored" if you will. Scrolling up or down in IE is a lot slower than
> before, and moving open windows around is like trying to walk in 3 feet of
> water.
>
> Certain games will run extremely poor, or not run at all. Halo 2, for
> example, will run at no more than 2 - 3 frames per second, and sound will
> be
> choppy right along with it. GTA will not even function once past the
> loading
> screen. I thought graphics drivers were necessary, so I made sure those
> were
> updated, but that did not improve anything. Other games, however, like
> Half-Life 2 or Portal will run perfectly with no problems, even better
> than
> the old CPU.
>
> I checked to make sure that both cores were recognized, and they were. I
> downloaded the AMD Dual Core Optimizer, and no success. My motherboard
> does
> support the CPU with the latest BIOS, and I made sure it was updated.
>
> Essentially, Vista was running better with my older and slower CPU, but I
> don't want to downgrade, especially after buying the new CPU. I'd prefer
> to
> unleash the full power of the new CPU. Any suggestions would be
> appreciated!
>
> System Specs:
> Gigabyte GA-K8NSC939 Motherboard
> AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core CPU
> 2GB Kingston Dual Channel RAM
> XFX GeForce 7900GS 256mb AGP x8 Graphics
>
>

I did a boot from the Vista DVD and ran the Startup Repair, but it did not
detect any problems. I am going to try reinstalling Windows like Rick
suggested, and we'll see if that repairs the slowdowns.

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:

> Boot from your Windows
> Vista DVD, select the System Repair Option > on the setup screen, select
> 'Repair Computer > Select your installation of Windows > select Startup
> Repair option and follow instructions.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "Sean" <> wrote in message
> news:E1B5DD43-AA33-48C2-8FB7-...
> >I am running Vista Ultimate x32. I recently upgraded my CPU from an AMD
> > Athlon 64 3200+ Single core to an Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core. I have
> > found
> > that since the installation, Windows Vista has been running a lot more
> > sluggish. Before the upgrade, Aero was smooth.. now browsing has seemed
> > "labored" if you will. Scrolling up or down in IE is a lot slower than
> > before, and moving open windows around is like trying to walk in 3 feet of
> > water.
> >
> > Certain games will run extremely poor, or not run at all. Halo 2, for
> > example, will run at no more than 2 - 3 frames per second, and sound will
> > be
> > choppy right along with it. GTA will not even function once past the
> > loading
> > screen. I thought graphics drivers were necessary, so I made sure those
> > were
> > updated, but that did not improve anything. Other games, however, like
> > Half-Life 2 or Portal will run perfectly with no problems, even better
> > than
> > the old CPU.
> >
> > I checked to make sure that both cores were recognized, and they were. I
> > downloaded the AMD Dual Core Optimizer, and no success. My motherboard
> > does
> > support the CPU with the latest BIOS, and I made sure it was updated.
> >
> > Essentially, Vista was running better with my older and slower CPU, but I
> > don't want to downgrade, especially after buying the new CPU. I'd prefer
> > to
> > unleash the full power of the new CPU. Any suggestions would be
> > appreciated!
> >
> > System Specs:
> > Gigabyte GA-K8NSC939 Motherboard
> > AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core CPU
> > 2GB Kingston Dual Channel RAM
> > XFX GeForce 7900GS 256mb AGP x8 Graphics
> >
> >
>
>
>

Since I have the upgrade version of Vista, I formatted and reinstalled XP..
believe it or not it runs MUCH quicker and more stable now. I don't know if
this has to do with the reformatting, or the fact that it's XP and not Vista.
I guess we'll see, I'm gonna try to upgrade to Vista later tonight or
tomorrow to see how things run then.

"Charlie Tame" wrote:

> Will be interesting to see what happens, I don't think it's anything to
> do with Vista (In my specific case at least) since I see the same thing
> running any OS and it makes no difference
>
> Also seems to show up when booting, which I guess leaves BIOS but that
> is allegedly compatible.
>
>
> Sean wrote:
> > I did a boot from the Vista DVD and ran the Startup Repair, but it did not
> > detect any problems. I am going to try reinstalling Windows like Rick
> > suggested, and we'll see if that repairs the slowdowns.
> >
> > "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
> >
> >> Boot from your Windows
> >> Vista DVD, select the System Repair Option > on the setup screen, select
> >> 'Repair Computer > Select your installation of Windows > select Startup
> >> Repair option and follow instructions.
> >> --
> >> Andre
> >> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> >> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> >> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> >> "Sean" <> wrote in message
> >> news:E1B5DD43-AA33-48C2-8FB7-...
> >>> I am running Vista Ultimate x32. I recently upgraded my CPU from an AMD
> >>> Athlon 64 3200+ Single core to an Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core. I have
> >>> found
> >>> that since the installation, Windows Vista has been running a lot more
> >>> sluggish. Before the upgrade, Aero was smooth.. now browsing has seemed
> >>> "labored" if you will. Scrolling up or down in IE is a lot slower than
> >>> before, and moving open windows around is like trying to walk in 3 feet of
> >>> water.
> >>>
> >>> Certain games will run extremely poor, or not run at all. Halo 2, for
> >>> example, will run at no more than 2 - 3 frames per second, and sound will
> >>> be
> >>> choppy right along with it. GTA will not even function once past the
> >>> loading
> >>> screen. I thought graphics drivers were necessary, so I made sure those
> >>> were
> >>> updated, but that did not improve anything. Other games, however, like
> >>> Half-Life 2 or Portal will run perfectly with no problems, even better
> >>> than
> >>> the old CPU.
> >>>
> >>> I checked to make sure that both cores were recognized, and they were. I
> >>> downloaded the AMD Dual Core Optimizer, and no success. My motherboard
> >>> does
> >>> support the CPU with the latest BIOS, and I made sure it was updated.
> >>>
> >>> Essentially, Vista was running better with my older and slower CPU, but I
> >>> don't want to downgrade, especially after buying the new CPU. I'd prefer
> >>> to
> >>> unleash the full power of the new CPU. Any suggestions would be
> >>> appreciated!
> >>>
> >>> System Specs:
> >>> Gigabyte GA-K8NSC939 Motherboard
> >>> AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core CPU
> >>> 2GB Kingston Dual Channel RAM
> >>> XFX GeForce 7900GS 256mb AGP x8 Graphics
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>

Well, turns out to be a problem with Vista. I upgraded to Vista after a
successful run with XP, and it runs just as choppy as it did before. I'm
pretty disappointed now.. any other ideas on what to do? It definitely
seems like a graphics issue. Even though my graphics card is AGP 8, it says
right on the box "Vista Essential."

"Sean" wrote:

> Since I have the upgrade version of Vista, I formatted and reinstalled XP..
> believe it or not it runs MUCH quicker and more stable now. I don't know if
> this has to do with the reformatting, or the fact that it's XP and not Vista.
> I guess we'll see, I'm gonna try to upgrade to Vista later tonight or
> tomorrow to see how things run then.
>
> "Charlie Tame" wrote:
>
> > Will be interesting to see what happens, I don't think it's anything to
> > do with Vista (In my specific case at least) since I see the same thing
> > running any OS and it makes no difference
> >
> > Also seems to show up when booting, which I guess leaves BIOS but that
> > is allegedly compatible.
> >
> >
> > Sean wrote:
> > > I did a boot from the Vista DVD and ran the Startup Repair, but it did not
> > > detect any problems. I am going to try reinstalling Windows like Rick
> > > suggested, and we'll see if that repairs the slowdowns.
> > >
> > > "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Boot from your Windows
> > >> Vista DVD, select the System Repair Option > on the setup screen, select
> > >> 'Repair Computer > Select your installation of Windows > select Startup
> > >> Repair option and follow instructions.
> > >> --
> > >> Andre
> > >> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> > >> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> > >> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> > >> "Sean" <> wrote in message
> > >> news:E1B5DD43-AA33-48C2-8FB7-...
> > >>> I am running Vista Ultimate x32. I recently upgraded my CPU from an AMD
> > >>> Athlon 64 3200+ Single core to an Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core. I have
> > >>> found
> > >>> that since the installation, Windows Vista has been running a lot more
> > >>> sluggish. Before the upgrade, Aero was smooth.. now browsing has seemed
> > >>> "labored" if you will. Scrolling up or down in IE is a lot slower than
> > >>> before, and moving open windows around is like trying to walk in 3 feet of
> > >>> water.
> > >>>
> > >>> Certain games will run extremely poor, or not run at all. Halo 2, for
> > >>> example, will run at no more than 2 - 3 frames per second, and sound will
> > >>> be
> > >>> choppy right along with it. GTA will not even function once past the
> > >>> loading
> > >>> screen. I thought graphics drivers were necessary, so I made sure those
> > >>> were
> > >>> updated, but that did not improve anything. Other games, however, like
> > >>> Half-Life 2 or Portal will run perfectly with no problems, even better
> > >>> than
> > >>> the old CPU.
> > >>>
> > >>> I checked to make sure that both cores were recognized, and they were. I
> > >>> downloaded the AMD Dual Core Optimizer, and no success. My motherboard
> > >>> does
> > >>> support the CPU with the latest BIOS, and I made sure it was updated.
> > >>>
> > >>> Essentially, Vista was running better with my older and slower CPU, but I
> > >>> don't want to downgrade, especially after buying the new CPU. I'd prefer
> > >>> to
> > >>> unleash the full power of the new CPU. Any suggestions would be
> > >>> appreciated!
> > >>>
> > >>> System Specs:
> > >>> Gigabyte GA-K8NSC939 Motherboard
> > >>> AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core CPU
> > >>> 2GB Kingston Dual Channel RAM
> > >>> XFX GeForce 7900GS 256mb AGP x8 Graphics
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >

Check the manufacturer's website for new drivers.
A lot of hardware has driver issues with Vista.
Unless Vista offers something that you just can't get with XP, I'd stick
with XP.
Some people claim Vista is the best thing since sliced bread, I don't see it
as an improvement at all.
That is why I have it on only 2 of the 250 machines I manage.
--
A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!

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"Sean" <> wrote in message
news:4E7E6461-17DD-466D-AA05-...
> Well, turns out to be a problem with Vista. I upgraded to Vista after a
> successful run with XP, and it runs just as choppy as it did before. I'm
> pretty disappointed now.. any other ideas on what to do? It definitely
> seems like a graphics issue. Even though my graphics card is AGP 8, it
> says
> right on the box "Vista Essential."
>
> "Sean" wrote:
>
>> Since I have the upgrade version of Vista, I formatted and reinstalled
>> XP..
>> believe it or not it runs MUCH quicker and more stable now. I don't know
>> if
>> this has to do with the reformatting, or the fact that it's XP and not
>> Vista.
>> I guess we'll see, I'm gonna try to upgrade to Vista later tonight or
>> tomorrow to see how things run then.
>>
>> "Charlie Tame" wrote:
>>
>> > Will be interesting to see what happens, I don't think it's anything to
>> > do with Vista (In my specific case at least) since I see the same thing
>> > running any OS and it makes no difference
>> >
>> > Also seems to show up when booting, which I guess leaves BIOS but that
>> > is allegedly compatible.
>> >
>> >
>> > Sean wrote:
>> > > I did a boot from the Vista DVD and ran the Startup Repair, but it
>> > > did not
>> > > detect any problems. I am going to try reinstalling Windows like
>> > > Rick
>> > > suggested, and we'll see if that repairs the slowdowns.
>> > >
>> > > "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Boot from your Windows
>> > >> Vista DVD, select the System Repair Option > on the setup screen,
>> > >> select
>> > >> 'Repair Computer > Select your installation of Windows > select
>> > >> Startup
>> > >> Repair option and follow instructions.
>> > >> --
>> > >> Andre
>> > >> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> > >> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> > >> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> > >> "Sean" <> wrote in message
>> > >> news:E1B5DD43-AA33-48C2-8FB7-...
>> > >>> I am running Vista Ultimate x32. I recently upgraded my CPU from
>> > >>> an AMD
>> > >>> Athlon 64 3200+ Single core to an Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core. I
>> > >>> have
>> > >>> found
>> > >>> that since the installation, Windows Vista has been running a lot
>> > >>> more
>> > >>> sluggish. Before the upgrade, Aero was smooth.. now browsing has
>> > >>> seemed
>> > >>> "labored" if you will. Scrolling up or down in IE is a lot slower
>> > >>> than
>> > >>> before, and moving open windows around is like trying to walk in 3
>> > >>> feet of
>> > >>> water.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Certain games will run extremely poor, or not run at all. Halo 2,
>> > >>> for
>> > >>> example, will run at no more than 2 - 3 frames per second, and
>> > >>> sound will
>> > >>> be
>> > >>> choppy right along with it. GTA will not even function once past
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> loading
>> > >>> screen. I thought graphics drivers were necessary, so I made sure
>> > >>> those
>> > >>> were
>> > >>> updated, but that did not improve anything. Other games, however,
>> > >>> like
>> > >>> Half-Life 2 or Portal will run perfectly with no problems, even
>> > >>> better
>> > >>> than
>> > >>> the old CPU.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I checked to make sure that both cores were recognized, and they
>> > >>> were. I
>> > >>> downloaded the AMD Dual Core Optimizer, and no success. My
>> > >>> motherboard
>> > >>> does
>> > >>> support the CPU with the latest BIOS, and I made sure it was
>> > >>> updated.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Essentially, Vista was running better with my older and slower CPU,
>> > >>> but I
>> > >>> don't want to downgrade, especially after buying the new CPU. I'd
>> > >>> prefer
>> > >>> to
>> > >>> unleash the full power of the new CPU. Any suggestions would be
>> > >>> appreciated!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> System Specs:
>> > >>> Gigabyte GA-K8NSC939 Motherboard
>> > >>> AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core CPU
>> > >>> 2GB Kingston Dual Channel RAM
>> > >>> XFX GeForce 7900GS 256mb AGP x8 Graphics
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >