CPU usage:100%

Hi everybody !
I've installed Win 7 ultimate in a VM but it always runs with CPU at 100% of
usage that blocks any other task.

I appreciate your suggestions.

LAM

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:43:53 -0500, "Luis" <luism0(arroba)yahoo.es>
wrote:

>Thanks Mike,
>
>A weird situation I see in task mgr: All processes don't exceed 40% of CPU % usage, but in the Performance tab, the graphic for CPU usage is always at 100%
>
>Any idea for this issue?
>

What happens if you install in VMWare Player3 instead?
Player3 is just released and one of the new things is that it fully
supports Win7 with Aero graphics and DirectX9.
And it is free like VPC2007...

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

Bo I've installed Win7 ultimate in a VirtualPC 2007 machine. With this
VirtualPC is which I have the problem of CPU usage at 100% without any other
program running on it.

Regards

LAM

"Bo Berglund" <> escribió en el mensaje
news:...
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:43:53 -0500, "Luis" <luism0(arroba)yahoo.es>
> wrote:
>
>>Thanks Mike,
>>
>>A weird situation I see in task mgr: All processes don't exceed 40% of CPU
>>% usage, but in the Performance tab, the graphic for CPU usage is always
>>at 100%
>>
>>Any idea for this issue?
>>
>
> What happens if you install in VMWare Player3 instead?
> Player3 is just released and one of the new things is that it fully
> supports Win7 with Aero graphics and DirectX9.
> And it is free like VPC2007...
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:28:32 -0500, "Luis" <luism0(arroba)yahoo.es>
wrote:

>"Bo Berglund" <> escribió en el mensaje
>news:.. .
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:43:53 -0500, "Luis" <luism0(arroba)yahoo.es>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks Mike,
>>>
>>>A weird situation I see in task mgr: All processes don't exceed 40% of CPU
>>>% usage, but in the Performance tab, the graphic for CPU usage is always
>>>at 100%
>>>
>>>Any idea for this issue?
>>>
>>
>> What happens if you install in VMWare Player3 instead?
>> Player3 is just released and one of the new things is that it fully
>> supports Win7 with Aero graphics and DirectX9.
>> And it is free like VPC2007...
>>
>Bo I've installed Win7 ultimate in a VirtualPC 2007 machine. With this
>VirtualPC is which I have the problem of CPU usage at 100% without any other
>program running on it.
>

Yes, I understood that already....
So what I am suggesting is to try a virtualization solution that is
also free but has been *optimized* for Windows 7 use (both host and
guest). VPC2007 is lacking all of that and is likely a solution rather
much behind by now. Microsoft seems to have abandoned VPC2007 in
favour of Windows Virtual PC on Windows 7, which only works if you
have a CPU capable of VT...

I think you can even import your already installed virtual machine
into Player3 (it can handle VPC2007 guests) so you may also save on
the install steps.
You will gain support for Aero graphics and USB inside the guests,
just for that reason alone the switch seems to be worth it.

(I just upgraded my VMWare Workstation 6.5.3 to version 7).
And I have several Win7 guests that run happily with no problems
whatsoever.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

Hi Luis,

Could you tell me which processor are you using? I have the same problem
with a AMD Turion X2 processor. With the task manager you have a limited
view about your system. In my case, I use the resourse monitor. I could see
that the disk I/O speed and the processor are the problem. There are some
applications in the internet like diskeeper that can help you to better the
disk performance. But about the processor with this experience with AMD, I
suggest you that don't buy AMD processor for virtualization, in fact I'm
changing my AMD laptop.

I hope this can help you.

"Luis" <luism0(arroba)yahoo.es> escribió en el mensaje de
noticias:...
> Hi everybody !
> I've installed Win 7 ultimate in a VM but it always runs with CPU at 100%
> of usage that blocks any other task.
>
> I appreciate your suggestions.
>
> LAM
>

Pablo, I also have VPC 2007 running with an AMD Processor. Maybe, this kind
of processors don't support well virtual machines. In other PC with Intel
Pentium, Windows 7 is running into a VPC 2007 without blocking processor
availability

Thanks,

Luis


"Pablo Toapanta N." <> escribió en el mensaje
news:47C2523D-2AB3-4CC4-815B-...
> Hi Luis,
>
> Could you tell me which processor are you using? I have the same problem
> with a AMD Turion X2 processor. With the task manager you have a limited
> view about your system. In my case, I use the resourse monitor. I could
> see that the disk I/O speed and the processor are the problem. There are
> some applications in the internet like diskeeper that can help you to
> better the disk performance. But about the processor with this experience
> with AMD, I suggest you that don't buy AMD processor for virtualization,
> in fact I'm changing my AMD laptop.
>
> I hope this can help you.
>
> "Luis" <luism0(arroba)yahoo.es> escribió en el mensaje de
> noticias:...
>> Hi everybody !
>> I've installed Win 7 ultimate in a VM but it always runs with CPU at 100%
>> of usage that blocks any other task.
>>
>> I appreciate your suggestions.
>>
>> LAM
>>

Ato, yes ! I'm suspecting the problem depends on the type of processor. Like
Pablo suggests in this thread, it seems that AMD Processor don't manage
fluently VPC 2007 with Vindows 7 runnig into a virtual machine. Other
previous Windows versions work fine installed in virtual machines.

Thanks again

Luis


"Ato_Zee" <> escribió en el mensaje
news:FRYGm.3539$2...
>
> On 31-Oct-2009, Bo Berglund <> wrote:
>
>> >A weird situation I see in task mgr: All processes don't exceed 40% of
>> >CPU % usage, but in the Performance tab, the graphic for CPU usage is
>> >always at 100%
>
> Sounds like inadequate resources. Try an Intel Extreme
> processor, the larger onboard cache works wonders,
> 4GB quality RAM, and a decent fixed size pagefile on a
> different drive to the OS.
> Just because you can install it, doesn't mean you
> can run it.
> Once put up Vista Ultimate on a CeleronD, with
> 512MB memory. Installed OK, ran without crashing,
> but at 100% CPU and ran like a dog. Try to open
> browser, make a cup of tea while watching the
> whirly thing, then message "sure you want to
> run this application" it was MS$'s for Christs sake,
> click yes, watch whirly thing while drinking tea.
> About 15 more mins to get to Google, and another
> 20 mins to get answer to "Why does my PC run
> slow".
> Intel Extreme processor, 4GB Crucial, both eBay
> bargains, on a 9 quid Asus mobo, fixed it.

Mike, I wasn't able to test Windows 7 into VMVare Player3. After installing
VMWARE, my PC suffered general failure whitout detect its origin. I had to
format the hard disk and then reinstall Windows 7. I expect to make testings
with VMWare in then next days.

Thanks

Luis




"Bo Berglund" <> escribió en el mensaje
news:...
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:28:32 -0500, "Luis" <luism0(arroba)yahoo.es>
> wrote:
>
>>"Bo Berglund" <> escribió en el mensaje
>>news:. ..
>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:43:53 -0500, "Luis" <luism0(arroba)yahoo.es>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks Mike,
>>>>
>>>>A weird situation I see in task mgr: All processes don't exceed 40% of
>>>>CPU
>>>>% usage, but in the Performance tab, the graphic for CPU usage is always
>>>>at 100%
>>>>
>>>>Any idea for this issue?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What happens if you install in VMWare Player3 instead?
>>> Player3 is just released and one of the new things is that it fully
>>> supports Win7 with Aero graphics and DirectX9.
>>> And it is free like VPC2007...
>>>
>>Bo I've installed Win7 ultimate in a VirtualPC 2007 machine. With this
>>VirtualPC is which I have the problem of CPU usage at 100% without any
>>other
>>program running on it.
>>
>
> Yes, I understood that already....
> So what I am suggesting is to try a virtualization solution that is
> also free but has been *optimized* for Windows 7 use (both host and
> guest). VPC2007 is lacking all of that and is likely a solution rather
> much behind by now. Microsoft seems to have abandoned VPC2007 in
> favour of Windows Virtual PC on Windows 7, which only works if you
> have a CPU capable of VT...
>
> I think you can even import your already installed virtual machine
> into Player3 (it can handle VPC2007 guests) so you may also save on
> the install steps.
> You will gain support for Aero graphics and USB inside the guests,
> just for that reason alone the switch seems to be worth it.
>
> (I just upgraded my VMWare Workstation 6.5.3 to version 7).
> And I have several Win7 guests that run happily with no problems
> whatsoever.
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)

Hi Luis,

Maybe the problem is the AMD processor, but I try using virtual machines
with VMWare, the performance is better but there's still a terrible
performance. The same results I had with Hyper-V and Windows Virtual PC over
windows 7. So, in my opinion AMD doesn't work fine with virtualization and I
don't recommend it.

"MSNEWS" <luism0@(arroba)yahoo.es> escribió en el mensaje de
noticias:#wzt#...
> Pablo, I also have VPC 2007 running with an AMD Processor. Maybe, this
> kind of processors don't support well virtual machines. In other PC with
> Intel Pentium, Windows 7 is running into a VPC 2007 without blocking
> processor availability
>
> Thanks,
>
> Luis
>
>
> "Pablo Toapanta N." <> escribió en el mensaje
> news:47C2523D-2AB3-4CC4-815B-...
>> Hi Luis,
>>
>> Could you tell me which processor are you using? I have the same problem
>> with a AMD Turion X2 processor. With the task manager you have a limited
>> view about your system. In my case, I use the resourse monitor. I could
>> see that the disk I/O speed and the processor are the problem. There are
>> some applications in the internet like diskeeper that can help you to
>> better the disk performance. But about the processor with this experience
>> with AMD, I suggest you that don't buy AMD processor for virtualization,
>> in fact I'm changing my AMD laptop.
>>
>> I hope this can help you.
>>
>> "Luis" <luism0(arroba)yahoo.es> escribió en el mensaje de
>> noticias:...
>>> Hi everybody !
>>> I've installed Win 7 ultimate in a VM but it always runs with CPU at
>>> 100% of usage that blocks any other task.
>>>
>>> I appreciate your suggestions.
>>>
>>> LAM
>>>
>
>

MSNEWS wrote:
> Ato, yes ! I'm suspecting the problem depends on the type of processor. Like
> Pablo suggests in this thread, it seems that AMD Processor don't manage
> fluently VPC 2007 with Vindows 7 runnig into a virtual machine. Other
> previous Windows versions work fine installed in virtual machines.

Yes, I was not able to get Windows 7 guest (with XP host) running well on VPC
2007 on AMD processor machine (Athlon 64 X2). It ran, but was impossibly slow.

But it ran well on VMWare workstation (version 6).

I really wish Microsoft would update VPV 2007 and Virtual server to run well
with Windows 7 (both host and guest).

--
David Wilkinson
Visual C++ MVP