CREATE NEW PDC

Hallo there and thx in advance for your support:
Let me depict what I want to do:
I do have 2 W2k3 Sp2 servers and the one that is the exchange server is also
the PDC, DHCP server and DNS. Now taht I have the luxury of having a 3rd
server, I want to make this the one with PDC, DHCP, and DNS, while unloading
the exchange from all these additional roles. However I will need to go to
thee <NEW> server when I need to create a new user and the machine itself
will be able to create also this user's mailbox and all other settings...
Bear in mind taht my exhange server was the FIRST server on the domain, back
to 5 years ago, but requirements change...
Is this possible/feasible?

Hello isolabella,

Is the second server also a DC? What version form exchange are you running?
It is not recommended to run Exchange on Domain controllers, so i would move
the Exchange to member server.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hallo there and thx in advance for your support:
> Let me depict what I want to do:
> I do have 2 W2k3 Sp2 servers and the one that is the exchange server
> is also
> the PDC, DHCP server and DNS. Now taht I have the luxury of having a
> 3rd
> server, I want to make this the one with PDC, DHCP, and DNS, while
> unloading
> the exchange from all these additional roles. However I will need to
> go to
> thee <NEW> server when I need to create a new user and the machine
> itself
> will be able to create also this user's mailbox and all other
> settings...
> Bear in mind taht my exhange server was the FIRST server on the
> domain, back
> to 5 years ago, but requirements change...
> Is this possible/feasible?

OK. I understand. The second server will be also a DC where all AD will be
repleicated.
The exchange I am using is 2003 SP2, and I intend to leave the Xchnge intact
except the AD/DNS where I want this to be a secondary DC and not the first
one...
How can i move the exchange to a member server?



"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello isolabella,
>
> Is the second server also a DC? What version form exchange are you running?
> It is not recommended to run Exchange on Domain controllers, so i would move
> the Exchange to member server.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
> > Hallo there and thx in advance for your support:
> > Let me depict what I want to do:
> > I do have 2 W2k3 Sp2 servers and the one that is the exchange server
> > is also
> > the PDC, DHCP server and DNS. Now taht I have the luxury of having a
> > 3rd
> > server, I want to make this the one with PDC, DHCP, and DNS, while
> > unloading
> > the exchange from all these additional roles. However I will need to
> > go to
> > thee <NEW> server when I need to create a new user and the machine
> > itself
> > will be able to create also this user's mailbox and all other
> > settings...
> > Bear in mind taht my exhange server was the FIRST server on the
> > domain, back
> > to 5 years ago, but requirements change...
> > Is this possible/feasible?
>
>
>

Hello isolabella,

Just to get you correct, both exisiting servers are DC's? Please describe
in detail what roles/functions the running servers have.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> OK. I understand. The second server will be also a DC where all AD
> will be
> repleicated.
> The exchange I am using is 2003 SP2, and I intend to leave the Xchnge
> intact
> except the AD/DNS where I want this to be a secondary DC and not the
> first
> one...
> How can i move the exchange to a member server?
> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>
>> Hello isolabella,
>>
>> Is the second server also a DC? What version form exchange are you
>> running? It is not recommended to run Exchange on Domain controllers,
>> so i would move the Exchange to member server.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Hallo there and thx in advance for your support:
>>> Let me depict what I want to do:
>>> I do have 2 W2k3 Sp2 servers and the one that is the exchange server
>>> is also
>>> the PDC, DHCP server and DNS. Now taht I have the luxury of having a
>>> 3rd
>>> server, I want to make this the one with PDC, DHCP, and DNS, while
>>> unloading
>>> the exchange from all these additional roles. However I will need to
>>> go to
>>> thee <NEW> server when I need to create a new user and the machine
>>> itself
>>> will be able to create also this user's mailbox and all other
>>> settings...
>>> Bear in mind taht my exhange server was the FIRST server on the
>>> domain, back
>>> to 5 years ago, but requirements change...
>>> Is this possible/feasible?

The exchange server was my FIRST server in the domain. The NEW server will be
my 3rd server in teh domain. BOTH servers, as also my other second server
will be DC. However on my 1 server (exchange server) I have installed also
the dns and DHCP which I want to migrate to the new 3rd server along with the
AD...

Hope thsi helps




"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello isolabella,
>
> Just to get you correct, both exisiting servers are DC's? Please describe
> in detail what roles/functions the running servers have.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
> > OK. I understand. The second server will be also a DC where all AD
> > will be
> > repleicated.
> > The exchange I am using is 2003 SP2, and I intend to leave the Xchnge
> > intact
> > except the AD/DNS where I want this to be a secondary DC and not the
> > first
> > one...
> > How can i move the exchange to a member server?
> > "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello isolabella,
> >>
> >> Is the second server also a DC? What version form exchange are you
> >> running? It is not recommended to run Exchange on Domain controllers,
> >> so i would move the Exchange to member server.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> confers
> >> no rights.
> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>> Hallo there and thx in advance for your support:
> >>> Let me depict what I want to do:
> >>> I do have 2 W2k3 Sp2 servers and the one that is the exchange server
> >>> is also
> >>> the PDC, DHCP server and DNS. Now taht I have the luxury of having a
> >>> 3rd
> >>> server, I want to make this the one with PDC, DHCP, and DNS, while
> >>> unloading
> >>> the exchange from all these additional roles. However I will need to
> >>> go to
> >>> thee <NEW> server when I need to create a new user and the machine
> >>> itself
> >>> will be able to create also this user's mailbox and all other
> >>> settings...
> >>> Bear in mind taht my exhange server was the FIRST server on the
> >>> domain, back
> >>> to 5 years ago, but requirements change...
> >>> Is this possible/feasible?
>
>
>

Hello isolabella,

It is not recommended by MS to demote a DC with exchange installed.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822179/en-us

So for my point of view you can do the following:

- add the new server as member server NOT DC, install exchange, move mailboxes
and public folders, then uninstall exchange from the old one

- leave both old DC's and also exchange there and install the new server
as third DC in the domain

What way do you like to go?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> The exchange server was my FIRST server in the domain. The NEW server
> will be my 3rd server in teh domain. BOTH servers, as also my other
> second server will be DC. However on my 1 server (exchange server) I
> have installed also the dns and DHCP which I want to migrate to the
> new 3rd server along with the AD...
>
> Hope thsi helps
>
> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>
>> Hello isolabella,
>>
>> Just to get you correct, both exisiting servers are DC's? Please
>> describe in detail what roles/functions the running servers have.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> OK. I understand. The second server will be also a DC where all AD
>>> will be
>>> repleicated.
>>> The exchange I am using is 2003 SP2, and I intend to leave the
>>> Xchnge
>>> intact
>>> except the AD/DNS where I want this to be a secondary DC and not the
>>> first
>>> one...
>>> How can i move the exchange to a member server?
>>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>>>> Hello isolabella,
>>>>
>>>> Is the second server also a DC? What version form exchange are you
>>>> running? It is not recommended to run Exchange on Domain
>>>> controllers, so i would move the Exchange to member server.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers
>>>> no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> Hallo there and thx in advance for your support:
>>>>> Let me depict what I want to do:
>>>>> I do have 2 W2k3 Sp2 servers and the one that is the exchange
>>>>> server
>>>>> is also
>>>>> the PDC, DHCP server and DNS. Now taht I have the luxury of having
>>>>> a
>>>>> 3rd
>>>>> server, I want to make this the one with PDC, DHCP, and DNS, while
>>>>> unloading
>>>>> the exchange from all these additional roles. However I will need
>>>>> to
>>>>> go to
>>>>> thee <NEW> server when I need to create a new user and the machine
>>>>> itself
>>>>> will be able to create also this user's mailbox and all other
>>>>> settings...
>>>>> Bear in mind taht my exhange server was the FIRST server on the
>>>>> domain, back
>>>>> to 5 years ago, but requirements change...
>>>>> Is this possible/feasible

Well, I was thinking of the second solution, but just to be fair with the
first option too, how can I move mailboxes and public folders to the new
machine? Then I will have to name the new server with the name of the old
exchange and IP address... (mailsrv and 192.168........) (same as the
existing one) while renaming on a second stem the old exchange to something
else..... (perhaps DNS server....)????

How about that?

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello isolabella,
>
> It is not recommended by MS to demote a DC with exchange installed.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822179/en-us
>
> So for my point of view you can do the following:
>
> - add the new server as member server NOT DC, install exchange, move mailboxes
> and public folders, then uninstall exchange from the old one
>
> - leave both old DC's and also exchange there and install the new server
> as third DC in the domain
>
> What way do you like to go?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
> > The exchange server was my FIRST server in the domain. The NEW server
> > will be my 3rd server in teh domain. BOTH servers, as also my other
> > second server will be DC. However on my 1 server (exchange server) I
> > have installed also the dns and DHCP which I want to migrate to the
> > new 3rd server along with the AD...
> >
> > Hope thsi helps
> >
> > "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello isolabella,
> >>
> >> Just to get you correct, both exisiting servers are DC's? Please
> >> describe in detail what roles/functions the running servers have.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> confers
> >> no rights.
> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>> OK. I understand. The second server will be also a DC where all AD
> >>> will be
> >>> repleicated.
> >>> The exchange I am using is 2003 SP2, and I intend to leave the
> >>> Xchnge
> >>> intact
> >>> except the AD/DNS where I want this to be a secondary DC and not the
> >>> first
> >>> one...
> >>> How can i move the exchange to a member server?
> >>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
> >>>> Hello isolabella,
> >>>>
> >>>> Is the second server also a DC? What version form exchange are you
> >>>> running? It is not recommended to run Exchange on Domain
> >>>> controllers, so i would move the Exchange to member server.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards
> >>>>
> >>>> Meinolf Weber
> >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> >>>> and
> >>>> confers
> >>>> no rights.
> >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>>>> Hallo there and thx in advance for your support:
> >>>>> Let me depict what I want to do:
> >>>>> I do have 2 W2k3 Sp2 servers and the one that is the exchange
> >>>>> server
> >>>>> is also
> >>>>> the PDC, DHCP server and DNS. Now taht I have the luxury of having
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> 3rd
> >>>>> server, I want to make this the one with PDC, DHCP, and DNS, while
> >>>>> unloading
> >>>>> the exchange from all these additional roles. However I will need
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> go to
> >>>>> thee <NEW> server when I need to create a new user and the machine
> >>>>> itself
> >>>>> will be able to create also this user's mailbox and all other
> >>>>> settings...
> >>>>> Bear in mind taht my exhange server was the FIRST server on the
> >>>>> domain, back
> >>>>> to 5 years ago, but requirements change...
> >>>>> Is this possible/feasible?
>
>
>

Well, I was thinking of the second solution, but just to be fair with the
first option too, how can I move mailboxes and public folders to the new
machine? Then I will have to name the new server with the name of the old
exchange and IP address... (mailsrv and 192.168........) (same as the
existing one) while renaming on a second stem the old exchange to something
else..... (perhaps DNS server....)????

How about that?

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello isolabella,
>
> It is not recommended by MS to demote a DC with exchange installed.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822179/en-us
>
> So for my point of view you can do the following:
>
> - add the new server as member server NOT DC, install exchange, move mailboxes
> and public folders, then uninstall exchange from the old one
>
> - leave both old DC's and also exchange there and install the new server
> as third DC in the domain
>
> What way do you like to go?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
> > The exchange server was my FIRST server in the domain. The NEW server
> > will be my 3rd server in teh domain. BOTH servers, as also my other
> > second server will be DC. However on my 1 server (exchange server) I
> > have installed also the dns and DHCP which I want to migrate to the
> > new 3rd server along with the AD...
> >
> > Hope thsi helps
> >
> > "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello isolabella,
> >>
> >> Just to get you correct, both exisiting servers are DC's? Please
> >> describe in detail what roles/functions the running servers have.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> confers
> >> no rights.
> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>> OK. I understand. The second server will be also a DC where all AD
> >>> will be
> >>> repleicated.
> >>> The exchange I am using is 2003 SP2, and I intend to leave the
> >>> Xchnge
> >>> intact
> >>> except the AD/DNS where I want this to be a secondary DC and not the
> >>> first
> >>> one...
> >>> How can i move the exchange to a member server?
> >>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
> >>>> Hello isolabella,
> >>>>
> >>>> Is the second server also a DC? What version form exchange are you
> >>>> running? It is not recommended to run Exchange on Domain
> >>>> controllers, so i would move the Exchange to member server.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards
> >>>>
> >>>> Meinolf Weber
> >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> >>>> and
> >>>> confers
> >>>> no rights.
> >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>>>> Hallo there and thx in advance for your support:
> >>>>> Let me depict what I want to do:
> >>>>> I do have 2 W2k3 Sp2 servers and the one that is the exchange
> >>>>> server
> >>>>> is also
> >>>>> the PDC, DHCP server and DNS. Now taht I have the luxury of having
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> 3rd
> >>>>> server, I want to make this the one with PDC, DHCP, and DNS, while
> >>>>> unloading
> >>>>> the exchange from all these additional roles. However I will need
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> go to
> >>>>> thee <NEW> server when I need to create a new user and the machine
> >>>>> itself
> >>>>> will be able to create also this user's mailbox and all other
> >>>>> settings...
> >>>>> Bear in mind taht my exhange server was the FIRST server on the
> >>>>> domain, back
> >>>>> to 5 years ago, but requirements change...
> >>>>> Is this possible/feasible?
>
>
>

Hello isolabella,

For moving and retiring an Exchange server see here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822931/

You can use a different servername and ip address without problem. Normally
outlook will connect automatically to the new mail server. Did it myself
more often and works this way.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Well, I was thinking of the second solution, but just to be fair with
> the first option too, how can I move mailboxes and public folders to
> the new machine? Then I will have to name the new server with the name
> of the old exchange and IP address... (mailsrv and 192.168........)
> (same as the existing one) while renaming on a second stem the old
> exchange to something else..... (perhaps DNS server....)????
>
> How about that?
>
> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>
>> Hello isolabella,
>>
>> It is not recommended by MS to demote a DC with exchange installed.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822179/en-us
>>
>> So for my point of view you can do the following:
>>
>> - add the new server as member server NOT DC, install exchange, move
>> mailboxes and public folders, then uninstall exchange from the old
>> one
>>
>> - leave both old DC's and also exchange there and install the new
>> server as third DC in the domain
>>
>> What way do you like to go?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> The exchange server was my FIRST server in the domain. The NEW
>>> server will be my 3rd server in teh domain. BOTH servers, as also my
>>> other second server will be DC. However on my 1 server (exchange
>>> server) I have installed also the dns and DHCP which I want to
>>> migrate to the new 3rd server along with the AD...
>>>
>>> Hope thsi helps
>>>
>>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello isolabella,
>>>>
>>>> Just to get you correct, both exisiting servers are DC's? Please
>>>> describe in detail what roles/functions the running servers have.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers
>>>> no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> OK. I understand. The second server will be also a DC where all AD
>>>>> will be
>>>>> repleicated.
>>>>> The exchange I am using is 2003 SP2, and I intend to leave the
>>>>> Xchnge
>>>>> intact
>>>>> except the AD/DNS where I want this to be a secondary DC and not
>>>>> the
>>>>> first
>>>>> one...
>>>>> How can i move the exchange to a member server?
>>>>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>>>>>> Hello isolabella,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the second server also a DC? What version form exchange are
>>>>>> you running? It is not recommended to run Exchange on Domain
>>>>>> controllers, so i would move the Exchange to member server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> confers
>>>>>> no rights.
>>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!
>>>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>>> Hallo there and thx in advance for your support:
>>>>>>> Let me depict what I want to do:
>>>>>>> I do have 2 W2k3 Sp2 servers and the one that is the exchange
>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>> is also
>>>>>>> the PDC, DHCP server and DNS. Now taht I have the luxury of
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> 3rd
>>>>>>> server, I want to make this the one with PDC, DHCP, and DNS,
>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>> unloading
>>>>>>> the exchange from all these additional roles. However I will
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> go to
>>>>>>> thee <NEW> server when I need to create a new user and the
>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>> will be able to create also this user's mailbox and all other
>>>>>>> settings...
>>>>>>> Bear in mind taht my exhange server was the FIRST server on the
>>>>>>> domain, back
>>>>>>> to 5 years ago, but requirements change...
>>>>>>> Is this possible/feasible?