Cyrillic characters change to ????

I have Win 7 x64 and Win Live Mail. Sometime, I have to write a message or
just a few words in it in Cyrillic. For this, I choose Format > Rich Text
(HTML). While I'm writing, the spelling is checked and corrected. However,
after I send this message, it arrives to its destination garbled: all
Cyrillic characters changed to ????.
What's wrong? How to protect the text of my messages?
Any suggestion will be appreciated.

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Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida

"Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message news:4EAC2CD1-5A16-48DE-BF57-...
> I have Win 7 x64 and Win Live Mail. Sometime, I have to write a message or just a few words in it in Cyrillic. For this, I choose Format > Rich Text (HTML). While I'm writing, the spelling is checked and corrected. However, after I send this message, it arrives to its destination garbled: all Cyrillic characters changed to ????.
> What's wrong? How to protect the text of my messages?
> Any suggestion will be appreciated.

At [Tools >] Options > Send, click the 'International settings' button. For the Default encoding, choose Unicode (UTF-8). This will ensure that any non-English characters you send will be properly transmitted. Whether the recipient can read them or not depends unfortunately on his settings, but most mail programs nowadays should detect the encoding and present the message as you intended. If he's reading mail in a browser (like Hotmail), again most webmail sites should work it out. If his doesn't, he should be able to change the encoding used to display the page (In IE7 it's a choice on the Page button menu).
--
Noel

In general the receiving computer must have the same character set available
as the sender. If the receiver does not have the correct set then it will
attempt to use a set that is 'close', often it will not be close enough.


"Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message
news:4EAC2CD1-5A16-48DE-BF57-...
> I have Win 7 x64 and Win Live Mail. Sometime, I have to write a message or
> just a few words in it in Cyrillic. For this, I choose Format > Rich Text
> (HTML). While I'm writing, the spelling is checked and corrected. However,
> after I send this message, it arrives to its destination garbled: all
> Cyrillic characters changed to ????.
> What's wrong? How to protect the text of my messages?
> Any suggestion will be appreciated.
>
> --
> Ilya Zeldes
> Fort Myers, Florida

Thanks, Noel, I'll try your suggestion.

Ilya

"Ildhund" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message
> news:4EAC2CD1-5A16-48DE-BF57-...
>> I have Win 7 x64 and Win Live Mail. Sometime, I have to write a message
>> or just a few words in it in Cyrillic. For this, I choose Format > Rich
>> Text (HTML). While I'm writing, the spelling is checked and corrected.
>> However, after I send this message, it arrives to its destination
>> garbled: all Cyrillic characters changed to ????.
>> What's wrong? How to protect the text of my messages?
>> Any suggestion will be appreciated.
>
> At [Tools >] Options > Send, click the 'International settings' button.
> For the Default encoding, choose Unicode (UTF-8). This will ensure that
> any non-English characters you send will be properly transmitted. Whether
> the recipient can read them or not depends unfortunately on his settings,
> but most mail programs nowadays should detect the encoding and present the
> message as you intended. If he's reading mail in a browser (like Hotmail),
> again most webmail sites should work it out. If his doesn't, he should be
> able to change the encoding used to display the page (In IE7 it's a choice
> on the Page button menu).
> --
> Noel

Michael, the funny thing is that when I sent a copy of that message to
myself on the same computer this message was originated from, I got the same
????

Ilya

"Michael Walraven" <> wrote in message
news:4C66579C-20C0-446D-A983-...
> In general the receiving computer must have the same character set
> available as the sender. If the receiver does not have the correct set
> then it will attempt to use a set that is 'close', often it will not be
> close enough.
>
>
> "Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message
> news:4EAC2CD1-5A16-48DE-BF57-...
>> I have Win 7 x64 and Win Live Mail. Sometime, I have to write a message
>> or just a few words in it in Cyrillic. For this, I choose Format > Rich
>> Text (HTML). While I'm writing, the spelling is checked and corrected.
>> However, after I send this message, it arrives to its destination
>> garbled: all Cyrillic characters changed to ????.
>> What's wrong? How to protect the text of my messages?
>> Any suggestion will be appreciated.
>>
>> --
>> Ilya Zeldes
>> Fort Myers, Florida
>

Well that dumps that theory :}


"Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message
news:6BC40353-4E5A-445D-A022-...
> Michael, the funny thing is that when I sent a copy of that message to
> myself on the same computer this message was originated from, I got the
> same ????
>
> Ilya
>
> "Michael Walraven" <> wrote in message
> news:4C66579C-20C0-446D-A983-...
>> In general the receiving computer must have the same character set
>> available as the sender. If the receiver does not have the correct set
>> then it will attempt to use a set that is 'close', often it will not be
>> close enough.
>>
>>
>> "Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message
>> news:4EAC2CD1-5A16-48DE-BF57-...
>>> I have Win 7 x64 and Win Live Mail. Sometime, I have to write a message
>>> or just a few words in it in Cyrillic. For this, I choose Format > Rich
>>> Text (HTML). While I'm writing, the spelling is checked and corrected.
>>> However, after I send this message, it arrives to its destination
>>> garbled: all Cyrillic characters changed to ????.
>>> What's wrong? How to protect the text of my messages?
>>> Any suggestion will be appreciated.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ilya Zeldes
>>> Fort Myers, Florida
>>

Then it's your Read settings that are wrong. A lot of people overlook the fact that the Fonts button on the Options > Read tab enables you to specify not only the font but also the encoding it applies to. I had to go through the whole of that list and specify a Unicode font for almost all of them (those that I might expect to see in messages). The easiest was to use Arial Unicode MS for all of them, with size set to 'Smaller' for most, but 'Smallest' for CJK encodings. If you don't have Arial Unicode MS (it comes with Office, I think), you will probably get by with Arial or Times New Roman, which both cover most Western character sets (including Cyrillic) and one or two other non-Roman ones like Hebrew and Arabic. You only need the full Unicode whack if you also need to read CJK texts. But I like to be able to see that what I can't read is Chinese or Korean.
--
Noel

"Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message news:6BC40353-4E5A-445D-A022-...
> Michael, the funny thing is that when I sent a copy of that message to myself on the same computer this message was originated from, I got the same ????

> "Michael Walraven" <> wrote in message news:4C66579C-20C0-446D-A983-...
>> In general the receiving computer must have the same character set available as the sender. If the receiver does not have the correct set then it will attempt to use a set that is 'close', often it will not be close enough.

>> "Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message news:4EAC2CD1-5A16-48DE-BF57-...
>>> I have Win 7 x64 and Win Live Mail. Sometime, I have to write a message or just a few words in it in Cyrillic. For this, I choose Format > Rich Text (HTML). While I'm writing, the spelling is checked and corrected.
>>> However, after I send this message, it arrives to its destination garbled: all Cyrillic characters changed to ????.
>>> What's wrong? How to protect the text of my messages?
>>> Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Well, I followed this advise too. Changed settings in the Read options. But
why the "smaller" size?

Ilya

"Ildhund" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Then it's your Read settings that are wrong. A lot of people overlook the
> fact that the Fonts button on the Options > Read tab enables you to
> specify not only the font but also the encoding it applies to. I had to go
> through the whole of that list and specify a Unicode font for almost all
> of them (those that I might expect to see in messages). The easiest was to
> use Arial Unicode MS for all of them, with size set to 'Smaller' for most,
> but 'Smallest' for CJK encodings. If you don't have Arial Unicode MS (it
> comes with Office, I think), you will probably get by with Arial or Times
> New Roman, which both cover most Western character sets (including
> Cyrillic) and one or two other non-Roman ones like Hebrew and Arabic. You
> only need the full Unicode whack if you also need to read CJK texts. But I
> like to be able to see that what I can't read is Chinese or Korean.
> --
> Noel
>
> "Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message
> news:6BC40353-4E5A-445D-A022-...
>> Michael, the funny thing is that when I sent a copy of that message to
>> myself on the same computer this message was originated from, I got the
>> same ????
>
>> "Michael Walraven" <> wrote in message
>> news:4C66579C-20C0-446D-A983-...
>>> In general the receiving computer must have the same character set
>>> available as the sender. If the receiver does not have the correct set
>>> then it will attempt to use a set that is 'close', often it will not be
>>> close enough.
>
>>> "Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message
>>> news:4EAC2CD1-5A16-48DE-BF57-...
>>>> I have Win 7 x64 and Win Live Mail. Sometime, I have to write a message
>>>> or just a few words in it in Cyrillic. For this, I choose Format > Rich
>>>> Text (HTML). While I'm writing, the spelling is checked and corrected.
>>>> However, after I send this message, it arrives to its destination
>>>> garbled: all Cyrillic characters changed to ????.
>>>> What's wrong? How to protect the text of my messages?
>>>> Any suggestion will be appreciated.
>

Sorry, that's just a personal preference. But the font seems disproportionately large when using a CJK (and probably some other non-Roman) encoding, so since the option's there I use it!

Could you now read the message you sent yourself? Можете ли вы читаете �ти �лова?
--
Noel

"Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message news:68CDAE36-0DA4-43BA-99DA-...
> Well, I followed this advise too. Changed settings in the Read options. But why the "smaller" size?

> "Ildhund" <> wrote in message news:...
>> Then it's your Read settings that are wrong. A lot of people overlook the fact that the Fonts button on the Options > Read tab enables you to specify not only the font but also the encoding it applies to. I had to go through the whole of that list and specify a Unicode font for almost all of them (those that I might expect to see in messages). The easiest was to use Arial Unicode MS for all of them, with size set to 'Smaller' for most, but 'Smallest' for CJK encodings. If you don't have Arial Unicode MS (it comes with Office, I think), you will probably get by with Arial or Times New Roman, which both cover most Western character sets (including Cyrillic) and one or two other non-Roman ones like Hebrew and Arabic. You only need the full Unicode whack if you also need to read CJK texts. But I like to be able to see that what I can't read is Chinese or Korean.
>> --
>> Noel
>>
>> "Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message news:6BC40353-4E5A-445D-A022-...
>>> Michael, the funny thing is that when I sent a copy of that message to myself on the same computer this message was originated from, I got the same ????
>>
>>> "Michael Walraven" <> wrote in message news:4C66579C-20C0-446D-A983-...
>>>> In general the receiving computer must have the same character set available as the sender. If the receiver does not have the correct set then it will attempt to use a set that is 'close', often it will not be close enough.
>>
>>>> "Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message news:4EAC2CD1-5A16-48DE-BF57-...
>>>>> I have Win 7 x64 and Win Live Mail. Sometime, I have to write a message or just a few words in it in Cyrillic. For this, I choose Format > Rich Text (HTML). While I'm writing, the spelling is checked and corrected. However, after I send this message, it arrives to its destination garbled: all Cyrillic characters changed to ????.
>>>>> What's wrong? How to protect the text of my messages?
>>>>> Any suggestion will be appreciated.
>>

Sure! Looks like Cyrillic goes back and forth. I checked with a few
correspondents and they all confirmed readability...
Thanks for your suggestions. They solved the problem. In the past, with Win
XP and Outlook Express I had no problem with my email at all.
Appreciate your help.

Ilya

"Ildhund" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Sorry, that's just a personal preference. But the font seems
> disproportionately large when using a CJK (and probably some other
> non-Roman) encoding, so since the option's there I use it!
>
> Could you now read the message you sent yourself? Можете ли вы читаете �ти
> �лова?
> --
> Noel
>
> "Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message
> news:68CDAE36-0DA4-43BA-99DA-...
>> Well, I followed this advise too. Changed settings in the Read options.
>> But why the "smaller" size?
>
>> "Ildhund" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Then it's your Read settings that are wrong. A lot of people overlook
>>> the fact that the Fonts button on the Options > Read tab enables you to
>>> specify not only the font but also the encoding it applies to. I had to
>>> go through the whole of that list and specify a Unicode font for almost
>>> all of them (those that I might expect to see in messages). The easiest
>>> was to use Arial Unicode MS for all of them, with size set to 'Smaller'
>>> for most, but 'Smallest' for CJK encodings. If you don't have Arial
>>> Unicode MS (it comes with Office, I think), you will probably get by
>>> with Arial or Times New Roman, which both cover most Western character
>>> sets (including Cyrillic) and one or two other non-Roman ones like
>>> Hebrew and Arabic. You only need the full Unicode whack if you also need
>>> to read CJK texts. But I like to be able to see that what I can't read
>>> is Chinese or Korean.
>>> --
>>> Noel
>>>
>>> "Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message
>>> news:6BC40353-4E5A-445D-A022-...
>>>> Michael, the funny thing is that when I sent a copy of that message to
>>>> myself on the same computer this message was originated from, I got the
>>>> same ????
>>>
>>>> "Michael Walraven" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:4C66579C-20C0-446D-A983-...
>>>>> In general the receiving computer must have the same character set
>>>>> available as the sender. If the receiver does not have the correct set
>>>>> then it will attempt to use a set that is 'close', often it will not
>>>>> be close enough.
>>>
>>>>> "Ilya Zeldes" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4EAC2CD1-5A16-48DE-BF57-...
>>>>>> I have Win 7 x64 and Win Live Mail. Sometime, I have to write a
>>>>>> message or just a few words in it in Cyrillic. For this, I choose
>>>>>> Format > Rich Text (HTML). While I'm writing, the spelling is checked
>>>>>> and corrected. However, after I send this message, it arrives to its
>>>>>> destination garbled: all Cyrillic characters changed to ????.
>>>>>> What's wrong? How to protect the text of my messages?
>>>>>> Any suggestion will be appreciated.
>>>
>
>
>