D:Drive to C:Drive

Hi everyone
I have a Samsung r60 plus with windows vista premium.

Reading the post’s about d:drive which is my backup partition.
I found out that i could reduce the size from 32.53gb to 20gb,in computer
management by right clicking the drive and choose shrink drive.
So i did this and it worked.

My problem is that now i want the reminder 12.53gb to extend to my hard
drive c.
I right clicked the c:drive but did not have the option to extend the drive
only to shrink.
Did a reboot but the same thing.
Can someone please help because now i have an unallocated 12.53gb(wherever
that is lol).
All help greatly appreciated.
Paul

Hi Paul,
The problem is that Vista will only extend a partition if the unallocated
space is next to it (to the right as shown in disk management). To do what
you want you will need a third party partition manager.
--
Paul


"pm_sam" wrote:

> Hi everyone
> I have a Samsung r60 plus with windows vista premium.
>
> Reading the post’s about d:drive which is my backup partition.
> I found out that i could reduce the size from 32.53gb to 20gb,in computer
> management by right clicking the drive and choose shrink drive.
> So i did this and it worked.
>
> My problem is that now i want the reminder 12.53gb to extend to my hard
> drive c.
> I right clicked the c:drive but did not have the option to extend the drive
> only to shrink.
> Did a reboot but the same thing.
> Can someone please help because now i have an unallocated 12.53gb(wherever
> that is lol).
> All help greatly appreciated.
> Paul
>

Em Quinta, 17 de Julho de 2008 18:58, pm_sam escreveu:

> Hi everyone
> I have a Samsung r60 plus with windows vista premium.
>
> Reading the post’s about d:drive which is my backup partition.
> I found out that i could reduce the size from 32.53gb to 20gb,in computer
> management by right clicking the drive and choose shrink drive.
> So i did this and it worked.
>
> My problem is that now i want the reminder 12.53gb to extend to my hard
> drive c.
> I right clicked the c:drive but did not have the option to extend the
> drive only to shrink.
> Did a reboot but the same thing.
> Can someone please help because now i have an unallocated
> 12.53gb(wherever that is lol).
> All help greatly appreciated.
> Paul

partition magic is your best choice, be carefull using it

hi Paul

thank you for a quick response much appreciated.
i copyed and pasted this.
i suppose that means no.

if i do a system restore will i get back the unallocated space back to
d:drive.lol..

many thanks

paul.

In article <1Ch%j.19840$2>,
Keith <> wrote:
>
>Anyone got any ideas?
>

Holy deja vu!!!

Anyway...

You can do this with drive management just like any other drive
PROVIDED THAT

Your boot volume is a basic volume. If you tried to be smart
and make it dynamic because dynamic volumes are easier to manage try again :-)

The free space you want to expand into is adjacent to the high blocks
of the existing system volume, that is

| system volume | free space | drive d:|

If you have, say,

| system volume | drive d: | free space |

the expand option will be greyed out. You'll need to delete drive D to
proceed.

Thanks again to jawande for making this clear.


"PaulB" wrote:

> Hi Paul,
> The problem is that Vista will only extend a partition if the unallocated
> space is next to it (to the right as shown in disk management). To do what
> you want you will need a third party partition manager.
> --
> Paul
>
>
> "pm_sam" wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone
> > I have a Samsung r60 plus with windows vista premium.
> >
> > Reading the post’s about d:drive which is my backup partition.
> > I found out that i could reduce the size from 32.53gb to 20gb,in computer
> > management by right clicking the drive and choose shrink drive.
> > So i did this and it worked.
> >
> > My problem is that now i want the reminder 12.53gb to extend to my hard
> > drive c.
> > I right clicked the c:drive but did not have the option to extend the drive
> > only to shrink.
> > Did a reboot but the same thing.
> > Can someone please help because now i have an unallocated 12.53gb(wherever
> > that is lol).
> > All help greatly appreciated.
> > Paul
> >

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:58:01 -0700, pm_sam
<> wrote:

> Hi everyone
> I have a Samsung r60 plus with windows vista premium.
>
> Reading the post’s about d:drive which is my backup partition.
> I found out that i could reduce the size from 32.53gb to 20gb,in computer
> management by right clicking the drive and choose shrink drive.
> So i did this and it worked.
>
> My problem is that now i want the reminder 12.53gb to extend to my hard
> drive c.


Paul B has already answered your question, but I wanted to add a
different comment.

If that's your backup scheme, you're kidding yourself. It's better
than no backup at all, but only slightly.

I don't recommend backup to a second partition because it leaves you
susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and backup to many of
the most common dangers: hard drive crashes, severe power glitches,
nearby lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer.
Any of these can cause the loss of everything on your drive.

If you're serious about backup, your backups need to be on removable
media, and not kept in the computer. For really secure backup (needed,
for example, if the life of your business depends on your data) you
should have multiple generations of backup, and at least one of those
generations should be stored off-site.

You can read my thoughts on backup here: "How to Back Up Your Computer
Regularly and Reliably" at
http://www.computorcompanion.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=314


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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"Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
news...
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:58:01 -0700, pm_sam
> <> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>> I have a Samsung r60 plus with windows vista premium.
>>
>> Reading the post's about d:drive which is my backup partition.
>> I found out that i could reduce the size from 32.53gb to 20gb,in computer
>> management by right clicking the drive and choose shrink drive.
>> So i did this and it worked.
>>
>> My problem is that now i want the reminder 12.53gb to extend to my hard
>> drive c.
>
>
> Paul B has already answered your question, but I wanted to add a
> different comment.
>
> If that's your backup scheme, you're kidding yourself. It's better
> than no backup at all, but only slightly.
>

I think he probably meant that the D: partition is the factory "Restore"
partition, but I could be making a bad assumption.

You can download the Boot-It NG program and burn it to a CD with the
included tool called MakeDisk.exe. Then boot from it, select "Partition
Work", I believe it was, from the menu, and you can then "slide"
unallocated space from behind the D: partition to behind the C:
partition. Then either Boot-It or the Vista partitioning tool in Disk
Management can be used to extend your C: partition.

'Boot Manager, Partition Manager, and Drive Image Utility - BootIt Next
Generation'
(http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/boo...generation.htm)

That page has some links to very good documentation, tutorials, and
videos.


--
LeeTutor

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:25:53 -0400, "Sinner" <>
wrote:

>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
> news...
> > On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:58:01 -0700, pm_sam
> > <> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone
> >> I have a Samsung r60 plus with windows vista premium.
> >>
> >> Reading the post's about d:drive which is my backup partition.
> >> I found out that i could reduce the size from 32.53gb to 20gb,in computer
> >> management by right clicking the drive and choose shrink drive.
> >> So i did this and it worked.
> >>
> >> My problem is that now i want the reminder 12.53gb to extend to my hard
> >> drive c.
> >
> >
> > Paul B has already answered your question, but I wanted to add a
> > different comment.
> >
> > If that's your backup scheme, you're kidding yourself. It's better
> > than no backup at all, but only slightly.
> >
>
> I think he probably meant that the D: partition is the factory "Restore"
> partition, but I could be making a bad assumption.



A 32.53GB factory restore partition? I can't imagine that.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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"pm_sam" <> wrote in message
news:C2545075-A51F-406E-A9B5-...
> Hi everyone
> I have a Samsung r60 plus with windows vista premium.
>
> Reading the post’s about d:drive which is my backup partition.
> I found out that i could reduce the size from 32.53gb to 20gb,in computer
> management by right clicking the drive and choose shrink drive.
> So i did this and it worked.
>
> My problem is that now i want the reminder 12.53gb to extend to my hard
> drive c.
> I right clicked the c:drive but did not have the option to extend the
> drive
> only to shrink.
> Did a reboot but the same thing.
> Can someone please help because now i have an unallocated
> 12.53gb(wherever
> that is lol).
> All help greatly appreciated.
> Paul

There are a couple of things here. First, this effect, as noted, is
because of a limitation in the Vista tool.

Second, as noted, you should *not* back up to the same physical disk!

A big reason for backing up is in case of drive failure. When drives fail,
all partitions are equally inacessible.

So, if you are backing up to another partition on the same disk, when it
fails, your backup is gone too. Data recovery from failed drives often
starts around $1000.

Get another physical disk or two, perhaps externals, and use those as backup
destinations. Copy your backups there if needed.

Then delete that backup partition entirely, and you should be able to extend
the C: partition.

It's hard to overemphasise the risk of the backup scheme you are describing.
It's really not a good idea at all.

HTH
-pk

Thank you all for your invaluable opinions.

I have read your backing up data on a pc Ken and this was also much
appreciated.

My D: partition is the factory "Restore" partition but i also did use to
backup there as well *NOT ANYMORE*.

I also have a Vista OS CD as well (what’s the different’s between factory
restore and a Vista CD).

The third party software “Boot-It NG program� (is it free lol) i could use
as my Hard Drive C is very funny 2 days ago I had 17GB, done some download’s
about 1/2GB but when I checked it,it was 11GB LEFT AND ON SOME OCCASIONS it
went up a few GB’s lol, what does the “check volume for errors do�.

If my Hard Drive get’s full would I have to get a new internal drive or an
external USB drive.

Also reading in the same forum I found out that I could get another 1GB’s if
I went ahead with a Disk Clean Up on Crive.

Am now backing up my data on a USB 2.0GB Flash Drive.

All help and advice much valued.

May I thank you all in advance for your support and help.

Paul.