DAMN those updates!!!

Hi all, I'm running XP Pro SP2, Could somebody please tell me - is
there a way to remove *all* windows updates in one go without
disrupting the rest of my files ?
The reason i ask is because when i used to *evaluate* XP and never get
any updates my setup would run fine for over a year without needing to
repair anything. Since having a legitimate copy i always have
auto-updates and it takes as little as two or three weeks to start
going wrong.
I wish to try removing them all and trying again but this time picking
and choosing which updates i install.
I know it may be a long shot but does anybody know of any one (or two)
thing(s) that is likely to be the cause of this ?

TIA

Chris

It only happens about 4 times a year. Updates breaking something. I
finally reformatted my hard drive, reinstalled, and then studied the
updates, the bulletins, and these newsgroups carefully before
applyiing an update. I also was careful to use a firewall, updated
virus and malware checkers, etc.

Sorry I can't give you more help.

<*(((><




On 31 Aug 2006 00:38:16 -0700, "chris 159" <>
wrote:

>Hi all, I'm running XP Pro SP2, Could somebody please tell me - is
>there a way to remove *all* windows updates in one go without
>disrupting the rest of my files ?
>The reason i ask is because when i used to *evaluate* XP and never get
>any updates my setup would run fine for over a year without needing to
>repair anything. Since having a legitimate copy i always have
>auto-updates and it takes as little as two or three weeks to start
>going wrong.
>I wish to try removing them all and trying again but this time picking
>and choosing which updates i install.
>I know it may be a long shot but does anybody know of any one (or two)
>thing(s) that is likely to be the cause of this ?
>
>TIA
>
>Chris

Awaiting your responses with baited breath, I remain, yours truly,

<*(((>< ~~~

>>>Hi all, I'm running XP Pro SP2, Could somebody please tell me - is
>>>there a way to remove *all* windows updates in one go without
>>>disrupting the rest of my files ?

No. I have never, repeat, never lost a system because of adverse effects
from an update. Nor has any update "broken" anything. They may have
caused different behavior due to security or legal concerns.
There are many causes at the root of update issues. Way to numerous to
list here completely.
So let's start with one subject though :

1) The condition of the OS :

a) Users click on " Smack the monkey and win ____ "

b) Users install "questionable" software; i.e. free games, crackz,
warez, gambling software, etc.

c) Users friends tell them to " change the Permissions " in order to
allow _____ " ( fill in the blank ) to run correctly. Those _____ can
be P2P software, IM clients, java games on xxxxxx.com, porno movies, etc.

d) Users allow the sub to expire therefore the system is "owned" by
someone else; Users install another antivirus program when the
subscription expires on the preinstalled AV without uninstalling the
expired version; Users install a "rogue av/antimalware" program due to
clicking links on Search sites ( hello, Google ! ) when looking for a
program to remove the malware that already is firmly entrenched, etc.

e) Users install ANOTHER antivirus program on in addition to the fully
functional AV that is running; Users install ANOTHER firewall because
they've heard that two are better than one.

That's just the tip of the iceberg for " questionable practices " in
regards to the OS by Users.

Don't get me started on the practices of OEM manufacturers of PCs.
The crap that they pre-install is what slows systems down considerably
and makes them vulnerable to exploits ( does Dell still install the 1.4
version of the Sun JRE/J2SE ? I know for a fact that they did up until
November 2005 ).

Call any OEM for support during the warranty period and all you'll get
after 10 to 15 minutes is ... " Use the Restore/Recovery Disk ".
" Where's my Windows CD ? "
OEM : " Sorry, that will cost you extra ".

Now let's turn to the updating process. How many different versions of
Windows and hardware configurations does the updating process support ?
Now throw in Office updating done at MU to make it all even more complex.

Actually the question should be, how does MS get so many updates out and
successfully installed each month ?
It's a miracle that they do when you really think about all the
variables in the Windows environment.

Is MS responsible for "bad" updates coming out? Yes.
Do they acknowledge that ? Yes.
Does it happen as often as in the past ? No.
Do they test the updates thoroughly before releasing them ? Yes.
Do the VAST majority of the PC's in the world successfully update ? Yes.

You won't find the "lucky" ones posting in this NG; what you'll find is
the small minority of those who are having issues updating.


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


<*(((>< wrote:

> It only happens about 4 times a year. Updates breaking something. I
> finally reformatted my hard drive, reinstalled, and then studied the
> updates, the bulletins, and these newsgroups carefully before
> applyiing an update. I also was careful to use a firewall, updated
> virus and malware checkers, etc.
>
> Sorry I can't give you more help.
>
> <*(((><
>
>
>
>
> On 31 Aug 2006 00:38:16 -0700, "chris 159" <>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi all, I'm running XP Pro SP2, Could somebody please tell me - is
>>there a way to remove *all* windows updates in one go without
>>disrupting the rest of my files ?
>>The reason i ask is because when i used to *evaluate* XP and never get
>>any updates my setup would run fine for over a year without needing to
>>repair anything. Since having a legitimate copy i always have
>>auto-updates and it takes as little as two or three weeks to start
>>going wrong.
>>I wish to try removing them all and trying again but this time picking
>>and choosing which updates i install.
>>I know it may be a long shot but does anybody know of any one (or two)
>>thing(s) that is likely to be the cause of this ?
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>Chris
>
>
> Awaiting your responses with baited breath, I remain, yours truly,
>
> <*(((>< ~~~

Hi Mow
Some very enlightening causes for the update probs.
You say 'You won't find the "lucky" ones posting in this NG; what you'll
find is the small minority of those who are having issues updating.'
Agreed, but look at the small minority of Windows users who know about
newsgroups/communities/discussion groups.
My local computer man rubs his hands every Black Tuesday - but what annoys
me about him is that he 'posts' in these groups to sort out his customers
update problems(the probs he cant fix - and there are lots of those).
Then charges for it. He never tells anyone about these groups either.
You and others have done a great job this month.
Rgds
Antioch

"MowGreen [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
>>>>Hi all, I'm running XP Pro SP2, Could somebody please tell me - is
>>>>there a way to remove *all* windows updates in one go without
>>>>disrupting the rest of my files ?
>
> No. I have never, repeat, never lost a system because of adverse effects
> from an update. Nor has any update "broken" anything. They may have caused
> different behavior due to security or legal concerns.
> There are many causes at the root of update issues. Way to numerous to
> list here completely.
> So let's start with one subject though :
>
> 1) The condition of the OS :
>
> a) Users click on " Smack the monkey and win ____ "
>
> b) Users install "questionable" software; i.e. free games, crackz, warez,
> gambling software, etc.
>
> c) Users friends tell them to " change the Permissions " in order to allow
> _____ " ( fill in the blank ) to run correctly. Those _____ can be P2P
> software, IM clients, java games on xxxxxx.com, porno movies, etc.
>
> d) Users allow the sub to expire therefore the system is "owned" by
> someone else; Users install another antivirus program when the
> subscription expires on the preinstalled AV without uninstalling the
> expired version; Users install a "rogue av/antimalware" program due to
> clicking links on Search sites ( hello, Google ! ) when looking for a
> program to remove the malware that already is firmly entrenched, etc.
>
> e) Users install ANOTHER antivirus program on in addition to the fully
> functional AV that is running; Users install ANOTHER firewall because
> they've heard that two are better than one.
>
> That's just the tip of the iceberg for " questionable practices " in
> regards to the OS by Users.
>
> Don't get me started on the practices of OEM manufacturers of PCs.
> The crap that they pre-install is what slows systems down considerably and
> makes them vulnerable to exploits ( does Dell still install the 1.4
> version of the Sun JRE/J2SE ? I know for a fact that they did up until
> November 2005 ).
>
> Call any OEM for support during the warranty period and all you'll get
> after 10 to 15 minutes is ... " Use the Restore/Recovery Disk ".
> " Where's my Windows CD ? "
> OEM : " Sorry, that will cost you extra ".
>
> Now let's turn to the updating process. How many different versions of
> Windows and hardware configurations does the updating process support ?
> Now throw in Office updating done at MU to make it all even more complex.
>
> Actually the question should be, how does MS get so many updates out and
> successfully installed each month ?
> It's a miracle that they do when you really think about all the variables
> in the Windows environment.
>
> Is MS responsible for "bad" updates coming out? Yes.
> Do they acknowledge that ? Yes.
> Does it happen as often as in the past ? No.
> Do they test the updates thoroughly before releasing them ? Yes.
> Do the VAST majority of the PC's in the world successfully update ? Yes.
>
> You won't find the "lucky" ones posting in this NG; what you'll find is
> the small minority of those who are having issues updating.
>
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
>
> <*(((>< wrote:
>
>> It only happens about 4 times a year. Updates breaking something. I
>> finally reformatted my hard drive, reinstalled, and then studied the
>> updates, the bulletins, and these newsgroups carefully before
>> applyiing an update. I also was careful to use a firewall, updated
>> virus and malware checkers, etc. Sorry I can't give you more help.
>> <*(((><
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 31 Aug 2006 00:38:16 -0700, "chris 159" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi all, I'm running XP Pro SP2, Could somebody please tell me - is
>>>there a way to remove *all* windows updates in one go without
>>>disrupting the rest of my files ?
>>>The reason i ask is because when i used to *evaluate* XP and never get
>>>any updates my setup would run fine for over a year without needing to
>>>repair anything. Since having a legitimate copy i always have
>>>auto-updates and it takes as little as two or three weeks to start
>>>going wrong.
>>>I wish to try removing them all and trying again but this time picking
>>>and choosing which updates i install.
>>>I know it may be a long shot but does anybody know of any one (or two)
>>>thing(s) that is likely to be the cause of this ?
>>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>Chris
>>
>>
>> Awaiting your responses with baited breath, I remain, yours truly,
>> <*(((>< ~~~

Thanks, Antioch. I think all of the folks who help out here are
outstanding. Too bad the Update Team does not recognize this and provide
some information to those folks. If you look back to posts from 2003 you
can find Lucy Eby doing just that. Sadly, no one has taken her position.

Unlike your computer man, I do point my customers to this NG. Of course,
that's why I use a pseudonym.
If they want help for free, it's here.
If they want to drop off their PC's or have me come over, they get charged.

BTW, I'm finding that the current AV's offered by McAfee and Norton
contain either buffer overrun or worm "protection". Both are the root
causes of some of the download/install issues.
And neither "protection" protects against what it claims to.<sigh>


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


antioch wrote:

> Hi Mow
> Some very enlightening causes for the update probs.
> You say 'You won't find the "lucky" ones posting in this NG; what you'll
> find is the small minority of those who are having issues updating.'
> Agreed, but look at the small minority of Windows users who know about
> newsgroups/communities/discussion groups.
> My local computer man rubs his hands every Black Tuesday - but what annoys
> me about him is that he 'posts' in these groups to sort out his customers
> update problems(the probs he cant fix - and there are lots of those).
> Then charges for it. He never tells anyone about these groups either.
> You and others have done a great job this month.
> Rgds
> Antioch
>
> "MowGreen [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
>>>>>Hi all, I'm running XP Pro SP2, Could somebody please tell me - is
>>>>>there a way to remove *all* windows updates in one go without
>>>>>disrupting the rest of my files ?
>>
>>No. I have never, repeat, never lost a system because of adverse effects
>>from an update. Nor has any update "broken" anything. They may have caused
>>different behavior due to security or legal concerns.
>>There are many causes at the root of update issues. Way to numerous to
>>list here completely.
>>So let's start with one subject though :
>>
>>1) The condition of the OS :
>>
>>a) Users click on " Smack the monkey and win ____ "
>>
>>b) Users install "questionable" software; i.e. free games, crackz, warez,
>>gambling software, etc.
>>
>>c) Users friends tell them to " change the Permissions " in order to allow
>>_____ " ( fill in the blank ) to run correctly. Those _____ can be P2P
>>software, IM clients, java games on xxxxxx.com, porno movies, etc.
>>
>>d) Users allow the sub to expire therefore the system is "owned" by
>>someone else; Users install another antivirus program when the
>>subscription expires on the preinstalled AV without uninstalling the
>>expired version; Users install a "rogue av/antimalware" program due to
>>clicking links on Search sites ( hello, Google ! ) when looking for a
>>program to remove the malware that already is firmly entrenched, etc.
>>
>>e) Users install ANOTHER antivirus program on in addition to the fully
>>functional AV that is running; Users install ANOTHER firewall because
>>they've heard that two are better than one.
>>
>>That's just the tip of the iceberg for " questionable practices " in
>>regards to the OS by Users.
>>
>>Don't get me started on the practices of OEM manufacturers of PCs.
>>The crap that they pre-install is what slows systems down considerably and
>>makes them vulnerable to exploits ( does Dell still install the 1.4
>>version of the Sun JRE/J2SE ? I know for a fact that they did up until
>>November 2005 ).
>>
>>Call any OEM for support during the warranty period and all you'll get
>>after 10 to 15 minutes is ... " Use the Restore/Recovery Disk ".
>>" Where's my Windows CD ? "
>>OEM : " Sorry, that will cost you extra ".
>>
>>Now let's turn to the updating process. How many different versions of
>>Windows and hardware configurations does the updating process support ?
>>Now throw in Office updating done at MU to make it all even more complex.
>>
>>Actually the question should be, how does MS get so many updates out and
>>successfully installed each month ?
>>It's a miracle that they do when you really think about all the variables
>>in the Windows environment.
>>
>>Is MS responsible for "bad" updates coming out? Yes.
>>Do they acknowledge that ? Yes.
>>Does it happen as often as in the past ? No.
>>Do they test the updates thoroughly before releasing them ? Yes.
>>Do the VAST majority of the PC's in the world successfully update ? Yes.
>>
>>You won't find the "lucky" ones posting in this NG; what you'll find is
>>the small minority of those who are having issues updating.
>>
>>
>>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
>>===============
>> *-343-* FDNY
>>Never Forgotten
>>===============
>>
>>
>><*(((>< wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It only happens about 4 times a year. Updates breaking something. I
>>>finally reformatted my hard drive, reinstalled, and then studied the
>>>updates, the bulletins, and these newsgroups carefully before
>>>applyiing an update. I also was careful to use a firewall, updated
>>>virus and malware checkers, etc. Sorry I can't give you more help.
>>><*(((><
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 31 Aug 2006 00:38:16 -0700, "chris 159" <>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi all, I'm running XP Pro SP2, Could somebody please tell me - is
>>>>there a way to remove *all* windows updates in one go without
>>>>disrupting the rest of my files ?
>>>>The reason i ask is because when i used to *evaluate* XP and never get
>>>>any updates my setup would run fine for over a year without needing to
>>>>repair anything. Since having a legitimate copy i always have
>>>>auto-updates and it takes as little as two or three weeks to start
>>>>going wrong.
>>>>I wish to try removing them all and trying again but this time picking
>>>>and choosing which updates i install.
>>>>I know it may be a long shot but does anybody know of any one (or two)
>>>>thing(s) that is likely to be the cause of this ?
>>>>
>>>>TIA
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>Awaiting your responses with baited breath, I remain, yours truly,
>>><*(((>< ~~~
>
>
>

I have never "lost a System." I've only lost internet connectivity --
which effectively means losing my livelihood. Plus, then I can't find
out how to fix it, because I can't connect to the newsgroups! Also
annoying is being told my Sony laptop didn't have a valid Windows XP,
and then being told to talk to Sony. Just a WGA glitch that prevented
me from getting needed updates. There have been a few other glitches
here and there, too.

And I have never been guilty of any of the things in your numbered
list. I've never had a virus on my computer in the 15 years I've had
a computer.

So if there are malformed updates four times a year, and I have to
stop in the middle of my schoolwork or job and spend hours -- days --
trying to get it fixed, then I say that's just too risky.

~~~~~~~~~~~
Awaiting your responses with baited breath, I remain, yours truly,
<*(((>< ~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~



On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:24:48 -0700, "MowGreen [MVP]"
<> wrote:

>No. I have never, repeat, never lost a system because of adverse effects
>from an update. Nor has any update "broken" anything. They may have
>caused different behavior due to security or legal concerns.
>There are many causes at the root of update issues. Way to numerous to
>list here completely.
>So let's start with one subject though :
>
>1) The condition of the OS :
>
>a) Users click on " Smack the monkey and win ____ "
>
>b) Users install "questionable" software; i.e. free games, crackz,
>warez, gambling software, etc.
>
>c) Users friends tell them to " change the Permissions " in order to
>allow _____ " ( fill in the blank ) to run correctly. Those _____ can
>be P2P software, IM clients, java games on xxxxxx.com, porno movies, etc.
>
>d) Users allow the sub to expire therefore the system is "owned" by
>someone else; Users install another antivirus program when the
>subscription expires on the preinstalled AV without uninstalling the
>expired version; Users install a "rogue av/antimalware" program due to
>clicking links on Search sites ( hello, Google ! ) when looking for a
>program to remove the malware that already is firmly entrenched, etc.
>
>e) Users install ANOTHER antivirus program on in addition to the fully
>functional AV that is running; Users install ANOTHER firewall because
>they've heard that two are better than one.
>
>That's just the tip of the iceberg for " questionable practices " in
>regards to the OS by Users.
>
>Don't get me started on the practices of OEM manufacturers of PCs.
>The crap that they pre-install is what slows systems down considerably
>and makes them vulnerable to exploits ( does Dell still install the 1.4
>version of the Sun JRE/J2SE ? I know for a fact that they did up until
>November 2005 ).
>
>Call any OEM for support during the warranty period and all you'll get
>after 10 to 15 minutes is ... " Use the Restore/Recovery Disk ".
>" Where's my Windows CD ? "
>OEM : " Sorry, that will cost you extra ".
>
>Now let's turn to the updating process. How many different versions of
>Windows and hardware configurations does the updating process support ?
>Now throw in Office updating done at MU to make it all even more complex.
>
>Actually the question should be, how does MS get so many updates out and
>successfully installed each month ?
>It's a miracle that they do when you really think about all the
>variables in the Windows environment.
>
>Is MS responsible for "bad" updates coming out? Yes.
>Do they acknowledge that ? Yes.
>Does it happen as often as in the past ? No.
>Do they test the updates thoroughly before releasing them ? Yes.
>Do the VAST majority of the PC's in the world successfully update ? Yes.
>
>You won't find the "lucky" ones posting in this NG; what you'll find is
>the small minority of those who are having issues updating.
>
>
>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
>===============
> *-343-* FDNY
>Never Forgotten
>===============
>
>
><*(((>< wrote:
>
>> It only happens about 4 times a year. Updates breaking something. I
>> finally reformatted my hard drive, reinstalled, and then studied the
>> updates, the bulletins, and these newsgroups carefully before
>> applyiing an update. I also was careful to use a firewall, updated
>> virus and malware checkers, etc.
>>
>> Sorry I can't give you more help.
>>
>> <*(((><
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 31 Aug 2006 00:38:16 -0700, "chris 159" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi all, I'm running XP Pro SP2, Could somebody please tell me - is
>>>there a way to remove *all* windows updates in one go without
>>>disrupting the rest of my files ?
>>>The reason i ask is because when i used to *evaluate* XP and never get
>>>any updates my setup would run fine for over a year without needing to
>>>repair anything. Since having a legitimate copy i always have
>>>auto-updates and it takes as little as two or three weeks to start
>>>going wrong.
>>>I wish to try removing them all and trying again but this time picking
>>>and choosing which updates i install.
>>>I know it may be a long shot but does anybody know of any one (or two)
>>>thing(s) that is likely to be the cause of this ?
>>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>Chris
>>
>>
>> Awaiting your responses with baited breath, I remain, yours truly,
>>
>> <*(((>< ~~~

<lol> I bet you feel better after that Mow <g>
Joan


MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
>
> No. I have never, repeat, never lost a system because of adverse
> effects from an update. Nor has any update "broken" anything. They
> may have caused different behavior due to security or legal concerns.
> There are many causes at the root of update issues. Way to numerous to
> list here completely.
> So let's start with one subject though :
>
>snip>

MG

Joan Archer wrote:

> <lol> I bet you feel better after that Mow <g>
> Joan
>
>
> MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
>
>>No. I have never, repeat, never lost a system because of adverse
>>effects from an update. Nor has any update "broken" anything. They
>>may have caused different behavior due to security or legal concerns.
>>There are many causes at the root of update issues. Way to numerous to
>>list here completely.
>>So let's start with one subject though :
>>
>>snip>
>
>
>

> That's just the tip of the iceberg for " questionable practices " in
>>regards to the OS by Users.

Have *never* lost connectivity on any of mine nor my clients' systems
EVER from ANY update.
YMMV of course, as it seems it have

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

<*(((>< wrote:

> I have never "lost a System." I've only lost internet connectivity --
> which effectively means losing my livelihood. Plus, then I can't find
> out how to fix it, because I can't connect to the newsgroups! Also
> annoying is being told my Sony laptop didn't have a valid Windows XP,
> and then being told to talk to Sony. Just a WGA glitch that prevented
> me from getting needed updates. There have been a few other glitches
> here and there, too.
>
> And I have never been guilty of any of the things in your numbered
> list. I've never had a virus on my computer in the 15 years I've had
> a computer.
>
> So if there are malformed updates four times a year, and I have to
> stop in the middle of my schoolwork or job and spend hours -- days --
> trying to get it fixed, then I say that's just too risky.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
> Awaiting your responses with baited breath, I remain, yours truly,
> <*(((>< ~~~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:24:48 -0700, "MowGreen [MVP]"
> <> wrote:
>
>
>>No. I have never, repeat, never lost a system because of adverse effects
>
>>from an update. Nor has any update "broken" anything. They may have
>
>>caused different behavior due to security or legal concerns.
>>There are many causes at the root of update issues. Way to numerous to
>>list here completely.
>>So let's start with one subject though :
>>
>>1) The condition of the OS :
>>
>>a) Users click on " Smack the monkey and win ____ "
>>
>>b) Users install "questionable" software; i.e. free games, crackz,
>>warez, gambling software, etc.
>>
>>c) Users friends tell them to " change the Permissions " in order to
>>allow _____ " ( fill in the blank ) to run correctly. Those _____ can
>>be P2P software, IM clients, java games on xxxxxx.com, porno movies, etc.
>>
>>d) Users allow the sub to expire therefore the system is "owned" by
>>someone else; Users install another antivirus program when the
>>subscription expires on the preinstalled AV without uninstalling the
>>expired version; Users install a "rogue av/antimalware" program due to
>>clicking links on Search sites ( hello, Google ! ) when looking for a
>>program to remove the malware that already is firmly entrenched, etc.
>>
>>e) Users install ANOTHER antivirus program on in addition to the fully
>>functional AV that is running; Users install ANOTHER firewall because
>>they've heard that two are better than one.
>>
>>That's just the tip of the iceberg for " questionable practices " in
>>regards to the OS by Users.
>>
>>Don't get me started on the practices of OEM manufacturers of PCs.
>>The crap that they pre-install is what slows systems down considerably
>>and makes them vulnerable to exploits ( does Dell still install the 1.4
>>version of the Sun JRE/J2SE ? I know for a fact that they did up until
>>November 2005 ).
>>
>>Call any OEM for support during the warranty period and all you'll get
>>after 10 to 15 minutes is ... " Use the Restore/Recovery Disk ".
>>" Where's my Windows CD ? "
>>OEM : " Sorry, that will cost you extra ".
>>
>>Now let's turn to the updating process. How many different versions of
>>Windows and hardware configurations does the updating process support ?
>>Now throw in Office updating done at MU to make it all even more complex.
>>
>>Actually the question should be, how does MS get so many updates out and
>>successfully installed each month ?
>>It's a miracle that they do when you really think about all the
>>variables in the Windows environment.
>>
>>Is MS responsible for "bad" updates coming out? Yes.
>>Do they acknowledge that ? Yes.
>>Does it happen as often as in the past ? No.
>>Do they test the updates thoroughly before releasing them ? Yes.
>>Do the VAST majority of the PC's in the world successfully update ? Yes.
>>
>>You won't find the "lucky" ones posting in this NG; what you'll find is
>>the small minority of those who are having issues updating.
>>
>>
>>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
>>===============
>> *-343-* FDNY
>>Never Forgotten
>>===============
>>
>>
>><*(((>< wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It only happens about 4 times a year. Updates breaking something. I
>>>finally reformatted my hard drive, reinstalled, and then studied the
>>>updates, the bulletins, and these newsgroups carefully before
>>>applyiing an update. I also was careful to use a firewall, updated
>>>virus and malware checkers, etc.
>>>
>>>Sorry I can't give you more help.
>>>
>>><*(((><
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 31 Aug 2006 00:38:16 -0700, "chris 159" <>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi all, I'm running XP Pro SP2, Could somebody please tell me - is
>>>>there a way to remove *all* windows updates in one go without
>>>>disrupting the rest of my files ?
>>>>The reason i ask is because when i used to *evaluate* XP and never get
>>>>any updates my setup would run fine for over a year without needing to
>>>>repair anything. Since having a legitimate copy i always have
>>>>auto-updates and it takes as little as two or three weeks to start
>>>>going wrong.
>>>>I wish to try removing them all and trying again but this time picking
>>>>and choosing which updates i install.
>>>>I know it may be a long shot but does anybody know of any one (or two)
>>>>thing(s) that is likely to be the cause of this ?
>>>>
>>>>TIA
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>Awaiting your responses with baited breath, I remain, yours truly,
>>>
>>><*(((>< ~~~
>
>

i lurv microsoft and error code ox80072EFD - so will someone wake me when
they have fixed it cause i need some sleep - Do You hear me BILL !!!!!!!!

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

>
>
> MG
>
> Joan Archer wrote:
>
> > <lol> I bet you feel better after that Mow <g>
> > Joan
> >
> >
> > MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
> >
> >>No. I have never, repeat, never lost a system because of adverse
> >>effects from an update. Nor has any update "broken" anything. They
> >>may have caused different behavior due to security or legal concerns.
> >>There are many causes at the root of update issues. Way to numerous to
> >>list here completely.
> >>So let's start with one subject though :
> >>
> >>snip>
> >
> >
> >
>