Dead USB's on docking station after updates

Did a Microsoft Update to a Dell laptop on a Dell docking station. After
update, have no USB mouse, nor USB keyboard operating through the docking
station. After reboot, still no USB mouse and keyboard, no lights on mouse
and keyboard either. Unplugged mouse and keyboard, replugged back into
docking station, no lights on devices, nothing. Shut down laptop, unplugged
from docking station, put laptop back on docking station, will not recognize
USB devices through docking station. Plugged USB mouse and keyboard directly
into laptop, both function properly. Deleted the docking station hardware
profile on the laptop, nothing. Changed docking station, nothing. Need
advice soon.
Thank You

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Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP1) when
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What updates did you install? Were any of them driver updates and if so,
did you try rolling back the driver(s)?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
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imjrk wrote:
> Did a Microsoft Update to a Dell laptop on a Dell docking station. After
> update, have no USB mouse, nor USB keyboard operating through the docking
> station. After reboot, still no USB mouse and keyboard, no lights on
> mouse
> and keyboard either. Unplugged mouse and keyboard, replugged back into
> docking station, no lights on devices, nothing. Shut down laptop,
> unplugged
> from docking station, put laptop back on docking station, will not
> recognize
> USB devices through docking station. Plugged USB mouse and keyboard
> directly into laptop, both function properly. Deleted the docking station
> hardware profile on the laptop, nothing. Changed docking station,
> nothing.
> Need advice soon.
> Thank You

This **IS** a serious problem, Microsoft. We've now seen, over the past 3
workdays, where Vista machine with SP1 have had the most recent updates, and
the blinkin' USB ports (mostly on docking stations, but also internal) are
DEAD. A fix is really needed TODAY, please !



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> [It took over 3 days for your post to appear here.]
>
> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP1) when
> posting to this newsgroup.
>
> What updates did you install? Were any of them driver updates and if so,
> did you try rolling back the driver(s)?
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
> imjrk wrote:
> > Did a Microsoft Update to a Dell laptop on a Dell docking station. After
> > update, have no USB mouse, nor USB keyboard operating through the docking
> > station. After reboot, still no USB mouse and keyboard, no lights on
> > mouse
> > and keyboard either. Unplugged mouse and keyboard, replugged back into
> > docking station, no lights on devices, nothing. Shut down laptop,
> > unplugged
> > from docking station, put laptop back on docking station, will not
> > recognize
> > USB devices through docking station. Plugged USB mouse and keyboard
> > directly into laptop, both function properly. Deleted the docking station
> > hardware profile on the laptop, nothing. Changed docking station,
> > nothing.
> > Need advice soon.
> > Thank You
>
>

There will be no fix unless you call 1-866-pcsafety.

I have 4 vistas all working fine here. I'm not seeing this widespread.

A fix will not be had today unless you call support. We cannot debug an
issue in an email newsgroup when there's no patch that we can see
causing this, nor do we have access to your machine.

Please understand I realize this an issue, but it cannot be fixed in a
newsgroup.

ITinOhio wrote:
> This **IS** a serious problem, Microsoft. We've now seen, over the past 3
> workdays, where Vista machine with SP1 have had the most recent updates, and
> the blinkin' USB ports (mostly on docking stations, but also internal) are
> DEAD. A fix is really needed TODAY, please !
>
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> [It took over 3 days for your post to appear here.]
>>
>> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP1) when
>> posting to this newsgroup.
>>
>> What updates did you install? Were any of them driver updates and if so,
>> did you try rolling back the driver(s)?
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>> imjrk wrote:
>>> Did a Microsoft Update to a Dell laptop on a Dell docking station. After
>>> update, have no USB mouse, nor USB keyboard operating through the docking
>>> station. After reboot, still no USB mouse and keyboard, no lights on
>>> mouse
>>> and keyboard either. Unplugged mouse and keyboard, replugged back into
>>> docking station, no lights on devices, nothing. Shut down laptop,
>>> unplugged
>>> from docking station, put laptop back on docking station, will not
>>> recognize
>>> USB devices through docking station. Plugged USB mouse and keyboard
>>> directly into laptop, both function properly. Deleted the docking station
>>> hardware profile on the laptop, nothing. Changed docking station,
>>> nothing.
>>> Need advice soon.
>>> Thank You
>>

MS is not monitoring this thread. See Susan's reply...but you'll need to
know what update(s) may have caused the problem. Note that free support is
only offered for security updates.

ITinOhio wrote:
> This **IS** a serious problem, Microsoft. We've now seen, over the past 3
> workdays, where Vista machine with SP1 have had the most recent updates,
> and
> the blinkin' USB ports (mostly on docking stations, but also internal) are
> DEAD. A fix is really needed TODAY, please !
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>> [It took over 3 days for your post to appear here.]
>>
>> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP1) when
>> posting to this newsgroup.
>>
>> What updates did you install? Were any of them driver updates and if so,
>> did you try rolling back the driver(s)?
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>> imjrk wrote:
>>> Did a Microsoft Update to a Dell laptop on a Dell docking station.
>>> After
>>> update, have no USB mouse, nor USB keyboard operating through the
>>> docking
>>> station. After reboot, still no USB mouse and keyboard, no lights on
>>> mouse
>>> and keyboard either. Unplugged mouse and keyboard, replugged back into
>>> docking station, no lights on devices, nothing. Shut down laptop,
>>> unplugged
>>> from docking station, put laptop back on docking station, will not
>>> recognize
>>> USB devices through docking station. Plugged USB mouse and keyboard
>>> directly into laptop, both function properly. Deleted the docking
>>> station
>>> hardware profile on the laptop, nothing. Changed docking station,
>>> nothing.
>>> Need advice soon.
>>> Thank You

Soooo.....An automated update for Vista corrupts one or more drivers, on
multiples of our critical workstations, & this is the best response available
? Very disappointing that you're insisting I pay for a support call to get
something resolved that we're not the only one complaining about. Just HOW
MANY users have to complain before you consider it worthy of a better
response ? 100 ? 1000 ? 5000 ?

Very disappointing.....little wonder that Microsoft frequently is the target
of angst.

ITinOhio

"Susan Bradley" wrote:

> There will be no fix unless you call 1-866-pcsafety.
>
> I have 4 vistas all working fine here. I'm not seeing this widespread.
>
> A fix will not be had today unless you call support. We cannot debug an
> issue in an email newsgroup when there's no patch that we can see
> causing this, nor do we have access to your machine.
>
> Please understand I realize this an issue, but it cannot be fixed in a
> newsgroup.
>
> ITinOhio wrote:
> > This **IS** a serious problem, Microsoft. We've now seen, over the past 3
> > workdays, where Vista machine with SP1 have had the most recent updates, and
> > the blinkin' USB ports (mostly on docking stations, but also internal) are
> > DEAD. A fix is really needed TODAY, please !
> >
> >
> >
> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> [It took over 3 days for your post to appear here.]
> >>
> >> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP1) when
> >> posting to this newsgroup.
> >>
> >> What updates did you install? Were any of them driver updates and if so,
> >> did you try rolling back the driver(s)?
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
> >>
> >> imjrk wrote:
> >>> Did a Microsoft Update to a Dell laptop on a Dell docking station. After
> >>> update, have no USB mouse, nor USB keyboard operating through the docking
> >>> station. After reboot, still no USB mouse and keyboard, no lights on
> >>> mouse
> >>> and keyboard either. Unplugged mouse and keyboard, replugged back into
> >>> docking station, no lights on devices, nothing. Shut down laptop,
> >>> unplugged
> >>> from docking station, put laptop back on docking station, will not
> >>> recognize
> >>> USB devices through docking station. Plugged USB mouse and keyboard
> >>> directly into laptop, both function properly. Deleted the docking station
> >>> hardware profile on the laptop, nothing. Changed docking station,
> >>> nothing.
> >>> Need advice soon.
> >>> Thank You
> >>
>

No one's saying a Vista update corrupted anything.

ITinOhio wrote:
> Soooo.....An automated update for Vista corrupts one or more drivers, on
> multiples of our critical workstations, & this is the best response
> available ? Very disappointing that you're insisting I pay for a support
> call to get something resolved that we're not the only one complaining
> about. Just HOW MANY users have to complain before you consider it worthy
> of a better response ? 100 ? 1000 ? 5000 ?
>
> Very disappointing.....little wonder that Microsoft frequently is the
> target
> of angst.
>
> ITinOhio
>
> "Susan Bradley" wrote:
>
>> There will be no fix unless you call 1-866-pcsafety.
>>
>> I have 4 vistas all working fine here. I'm not seeing this widespread.
>>
>> A fix will not be had today unless you call support. We cannot debug an
>> issue in an email newsgroup when there's no patch that we can see
>> causing this, nor do we have access to your machine.
>>
>> Please understand I realize this an issue, but it cannot be fixed in a
>> newsgroup.
>>
>> ITinOhio wrote:
>>> This **IS** a serious problem, Microsoft. We've now seen, over the past
>>> 3
>>> workdays, where Vista machine with SP1 have had the most recent updates,
>>> and the blinkin' USB ports (mostly on docking stations, but also
>>> internal) are DEAD. A fix is really needed TODAY, please !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> [It took over 3 days for your post to appear here.]
>>>>
>>>> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP1)
>>>> when
>>>> posting to this newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>> What updates did you install? Were any of them driver updates and if
>>>> so,
>>>> did you try rolling back the driver(s)?
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>>
>>>> imjrk wrote:
>>>>> Did a Microsoft Update to a Dell laptop on a Dell docking station.
>>>>> After update, have no USB mouse, nor USB keyboard operating through
>>>>> the
>>>>> docking station. After reboot, still no USB mouse and keyboard, no
>>>>> lights on mouse
>>>>> and keyboard either. Unplugged mouse and keyboard, replugged back
>>>>> into
>>>>> docking station, no lights on devices, nothing. Shut down laptop,
>>>>> unplugged
>>>>> from docking station, put laptop back on docking station, will not
>>>>> recognize
>>>>> USB devices through docking station. Plugged USB mouse and keyboard
>>>>> directly into laptop, both function properly. Deleted the docking
>>>>> station hardware profile on the laptop, nothing. Changed docking
>>>>> station, nothing.
>>>>> Need advice soon.
>>>>> Thank You

Excuse me....but I am saying exactly that. Four out of four of us in our IT
Office have experienced various USB-connected failures IMMEDIATELY after
Vista updates were installed, over the past 2 days. *Not* a coincidence. I
object to Microsoft sending out updates that appear to cause problems, then
insist on charging for their repairs.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> No one's saying a Vista update corrupted anything.
>
> ITinOhio wrote:
> > Soooo.....An automated update for Vista corrupts one or more drivers, on
> > multiples of our critical workstations, & this is the best response
> > available ? Very disappointing that you're insisting I pay for a support
> > call to get something resolved that we're not the only one complaining
> > about. Just HOW MANY users have to complain before you consider it worthy
> > of a better response ? 100 ? 1000 ? 5000 ?
> >
> > Very disappointing.....little wonder that Microsoft frequently is the
> > target
> > of angst.
> >
> > ITinOhio
> >
> > "Susan Bradley" wrote:
> >
> >> There will be no fix unless you call 1-866-pcsafety.
> >>
> >> I have 4 vistas all working fine here. I'm not seeing this widespread.
> >>
> >> A fix will not be had today unless you call support. We cannot debug an
> >> issue in an email newsgroup when there's no patch that we can see
> >> causing this, nor do we have access to your machine.
> >>
> >> Please understand I realize this an issue, but it cannot be fixed in a
> >> newsgroup.
> >>
> >> ITinOhio wrote:
> >>> This **IS** a serious problem, Microsoft. We've now seen, over the past
> >>> 3
> >>> workdays, where Vista machine with SP1 have had the most recent updates,
> >>> and the blinkin' USB ports (mostly on docking stations, but also
> >>> internal) are DEAD. A fix is really needed TODAY, please !
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> [It took over 3 days for your post to appear here.]
> >>>>
> >>>> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP1)
> >>>> when
> >>>> posting to this newsgroup.
> >>>>
> >>>> What updates did you install? Were any of them driver updates and if
> >>>> so,
> >>>> did you try rolling back the driver(s)?
> >>>> --
> >>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> >>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> >>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
> >>>>
> >>>> imjrk wrote:
> >>>>> Did a Microsoft Update to a Dell laptop on a Dell docking station.
> >>>>> After update, have no USB mouse, nor USB keyboard operating through
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> docking station. After reboot, still no USB mouse and keyboard, no
> >>>>> lights on mouse
> >>>>> and keyboard either. Unplugged mouse and keyboard, replugged back
> >>>>> into
> >>>>> docking station, no lights on devices, nothing. Shut down laptop,
> >>>>> unplugged
> >>>>> from docking station, put laptop back on docking station, will not
> >>>>> recognize
> >>>>> USB devices through docking station. Plugged USB mouse and keyboard
> >>>>> directly into laptop, both function properly. Deleted the docking
> >>>>> station hardware profile on the laptop, nothing. Changed docking
> >>>>> station, nothing.
> >>>>> Need advice soon.
> >>>>> Thank You
>
>

None of *us* is saying it.

Repost:
>>> There will be no fix unless you call 1-866-pcsafety.

I'm sorry y'all are having problems but this is NOT happening to most Vista
machines.

Experienced IT Department members do NOT install third-party driver or
software updates offered by Windows Update.

MS is NOT monitoring this thread or this newsgroup. We're all volunteers.

Support for Windows Update:
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/wusupport

For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx

For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through
your usual support contacts.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.net

ITinOhio wrote:
> Excuse me....but I am saying exactly that. Four out of four of us in our
> IT
> Office have experienced various USB-connected failures IMMEDIATELY after
> Vista updates were installed, over the past 2 days. *Not* a coincidence.
> I
> object to Microsoft sending out updates that appear to cause problems,
> then
> insist on charging for their repairs.
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>> No one's saying a Vista update corrupted anything.
>>
>> ITinOhio wrote:
>>> Soooo.....An automated update for Vista corrupts one or more drivers, on
>>> multiples of our critical workstations, & this is the best response
>>> available ? Very disappointing that you're insisting I pay for a
>>> support
>>> call to get something resolved that we're not the only one complaining
>>> about. Just HOW MANY users have to complain before you consider it
>>> worthy
>>> of a better response ? 100 ? 1000 ? 5000 ?
>>>
>>> Very disappointing.....little wonder that Microsoft frequently is the
>>> target
>>> of angst.
>>>
>>> ITinOhio
>>>
>>> "Susan Bradley" wrote:
>>>
>>>> There will be no fix unless you call 1-866-pcsafety.
>>>>
>>>> I have 4 vistas all working fine here. I'm not seeing this widespread.
>>>>
>>>> A fix will not be had today unless you call support. We cannot debug
>>>> an
>>>> issue in an email newsgroup when there's no patch that we can see
>>>> causing this, nor do we have access to your machine.
>>>>
>>>> Please understand I realize this an issue, but it cannot be fixed in a
>>>> newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>> ITinOhio wrote:
>>>>> This **IS** a serious problem, Microsoft. We've now seen, over the
>>>>> past
>>>>> 3
>>>>> workdays, where Vista machine with SP1 have had the most recent
>>>>> updates,
>>>>> and the blinkin' USB ports (mostly on docking stations, but also
>>>>> internal) are DEAD. A fix is really needed TODAY, please !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [It took over 3 days for your post to appear here.]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP1)
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> posting to this newsgroup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What updates did you install? Were any of them driver updates and if
>>>>>> so,
>>>>>> did you try rolling back the driver(s)?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> imjrk wrote:
>>>>>>> Did a Microsoft Update to a Dell laptop on a Dell docking station.
>>>>>>> After update, have no USB mouse, nor USB keyboard operating through
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> docking station. After reboot, still no USB mouse and keyboard, no
>>>>>>> lights on mouse
>>>>>>> and keyboard either. Unplugged mouse and keyboard, replugged back
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> docking station, no lights on devices, nothing. Shut down laptop,
>>>>>>> unplugged
>>>>>>> from docking station, put laptop back on docking station, will not
>>>>>>> recognize
>>>>>>> USB devices through docking station. Plugged USB mouse and keyboard
>>>>>>> directly into laptop, both function properly. Deleted the docking
>>>>>>> station hardware profile on the laptop, nothing. Changed docking
>>>>>>> station, nothing.
>>>>>>> Need advice soon.
>>>>>>> Thank You

Just installed XP SP3 from Dell CD on Dell Precision M90. Installed all
drivers and ran complete MS update. Once I docked it to a port replicator, I
have the same issue of the USB ports on Port Replicator not being recognized
by Laptop. I'll be starting to troubleshoot this issue this afternoon, but
after doing a quick search on the web...no solutions thus far nor cause. I
would hate to have to reimage or reinstall XP to resolve issue, but that may
be the case if it takes longer that 3 hours to troubleshoot...

First time seeing this issue from a fresh install of Dell Laptop, but also
the first few times of using the XP SP3 CD from Dell as well.

Will let you guys know if I find anything during allotted time for
troubleshoot.