debug switch and STOP error

I'm researching the 0x0000008e STOP error which has been plaguing my system
for a couple of months or so. I'd installed 2 further Corsair 8500 Dominator
1GB RAM modules - I already had 2GB of these installed. One of teh new
modules was immediately found to be faulty by Memtest but the other has
tested as ok when checked on several occasions overnight (eg 17 passes and no
errors).

However, 0x0000008e still occurs at least once daily - usually following a
message that a program or utility has stopped working. These are completely
varied and so I don't suspect the programs themselves. Now I've removed the
other added module and am waiting to see what happens - only tried for a few
hours so far.

Question: when researching this an MS article referred to one of the
attendant errors in the brackets as often being caused by the OS running
without the debug switch. How do I set this to run? I think I have to add
/debug to the end of a line in a file but which line and which file and where
is it?

I'm running Vista 32bit Ultimate with an ASUS P5B Deluxe mobo. I've updated
graphics and sound drivers but this had no effect one way or the other.

Thanks.

Steve

Hi Steve,

You would not want to run with /debug enabled. That is not normal operation.
In fact, if there is a boot problem the system may halt due to this switch
and make it exceedingly difficult to regain normal mode.

Have you analyzed any of the memory dumps yet? 0x8E errors are generally
driver related, and frequently they are video drivers.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Steve Campbell" <> wrote in message
news:8BF1D2DD-51E3-4840-8F35-...
> I'm researching the 0x0000008e STOP error which has been plaguing my
> system
> for a couple of months or so. I'd installed 2 further Corsair 8500
> Dominator
> 1GB RAM modules - I already had 2GB of these installed. One of teh new
> modules was immediately found to be faulty by Memtest but the other has
> tested as ok when checked on several occasions overnight (eg 17 passes and
> no
> errors).
>
> However, 0x0000008e still occurs at least once daily - usually following a
> message that a program or utility has stopped working. These are
> completely
> varied and so I don't suspect the programs themselves. Now I've removed
> the
> other added module and am waiting to see what happens - only tried for a
> few
> hours so far.
>
> Question: when researching this an MS article referred to one of the
> attendant errors in the brackets as often being caused by the OS running
> without the debug switch. How do I set this to run? I think I have to
> add
> /debug to the end of a line in a file but which line and which file and
> where
> is it?
>
> I'm running Vista 32bit Ultimate with an ASUS P5B Deluxe mobo. I've
> updated
> graphics and sound drivers but this had no effect one way or the other.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Steve

Thanks for getting back Rick. To be honest I'm not sure how to go about
analysing memory dumps, so any guidance would be gratefully received.
Drivers have always been behind STOP errors I've experienced on my previous
XP machine but I have the latest nVidia 8800GTS WHQL ones installed and
Creative's X-Fi ones, so I'm a bit stumped here if that is still the case.

Thanks again.

Steve




"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> You would not want to run with /debug enabled. That is not normal operation.
> In fact, if there is a boot problem the system may halt due to this switch
> and make it exceedingly difficult to regain normal mode.
>
> Have you analyzed any of the memory dumps yet? 0x8E errors are generally
> driver related, and frequently they are video drivers.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in message
> news:8BF1D2DD-51E3-4840-8F35-...
> > I'm researching the 0x0000008e STOP error which has been plaguing my
> > system
> > for a couple of months or so. I'd installed 2 further Corsair 8500
> > Dominator
> > 1GB RAM modules - I already had 2GB of these installed. One of teh new
> > modules was immediately found to be faulty by Memtest but the other has
> > tested as ok when checked on several occasions overnight (eg 17 passes and
> > no
> > errors).
> >
> > However, 0x0000008e still occurs at least once daily - usually following a
> > message that a program or utility has stopped working. These are
> > completely
> > varied and so I don't suspect the programs themselves. Now I've removed
> > the
> > other added module and am waiting to see what happens - only tried for a
> > few
> > hours so far.
> >
> > Question: when researching this an MS article referred to one of the
> > attendant errors in the brackets as often being caused by the OS running
> > without the debug switch. How do I set this to run? I think I have to
> > add
> > /debug to the end of a line in a file but which line and which file and
> > where
> > is it?
> >
> > I'm running Vista 32bit Ultimate with an ASUS P5B Deluxe mobo. I've
> > updated
> > graphics and sound drivers but this had no effect one way or the other.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Steve
>
>

Hi Steve,

If it's a minidump, send it to me at the email address used here, and a
subject line of 'per req'.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Steve Campbell" <> wrote in message
news:6C65CBFA-FBA3-44E7-8A5C-...
> Thanks for getting back Rick. To be honest I'm not sure how to go about
> analysing memory dumps, so any guidance would be gratefully received.
> Drivers have always been behind STOP errors I've experienced on my
> previous
> XP machine but I have the latest nVidia 8800GTS WHQL ones installed and
> Creative's X-Fi ones, so I'm a bit stumped here if that is still the case.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> You would not want to run with /debug enabled. That is not normal
>> operation.
>> In fact, if there is a boot problem the system may halt due to this
>> switch
>> and make it exceedingly difficult to regain normal mode.
>>
>> Have you analyzed any of the memory dumps yet? 0x8E errors are generally
>> driver related, and frequently they are video drivers.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in
>> message
>> news:8BF1D2DD-51E3-4840-8F35-...
>> > I'm researching the 0x0000008e STOP error which has been plaguing my
>> > system
>> > for a couple of months or so. I'd installed 2 further Corsair 8500
>> > Dominator
>> > 1GB RAM modules - I already had 2GB of these installed. One of teh new
>> > modules was immediately found to be faulty by Memtest but the other has
>> > tested as ok when checked on several occasions overnight (eg 17 passes
>> > and
>> > no
>> > errors).
>> >
>> > However, 0x0000008e still occurs at least once daily - usually
>> > following a
>> > message that a program or utility has stopped working. These are
>> > completely
>> > varied and so I don't suspect the programs themselves. Now I've
>> > removed
>> > the
>> > other added module and am waiting to see what happens - only tried for
>> > a
>> > few
>> > hours so far.
>> >
>> > Question: when researching this an MS article referred to one of the
>> > attendant errors in the brackets as often being caused by the OS
>> > running
>> > without the debug switch. How do I set this to run? I think I have to
>> > add
>> > /debug to the end of a line in a file but which line and which file and
>> > where
>> > is it?
>> >
>> > I'm running Vista 32bit Ultimate with an ASUS P5B Deluxe mobo. I've
>> > updated
>> > graphics and sound drivers but this had no effect one way or the other.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Steve
>>
>>

Thanks. My page file is set to 4096MB. What's the dump called?

Steve

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> If it's a minidump, send it to me at the email address used here, and a
> subject line of 'per req'.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in message
> news:6C65CBFA-FBA3-44E7-8A5C-...
> > Thanks for getting back Rick. To be honest I'm not sure how to go about
> > analysing memory dumps, so any guidance would be gratefully received.
> > Drivers have always been behind STOP errors I've experienced on my
> > previous
> > XP machine but I have the latest nVidia 8800GTS WHQL ones installed and
> > Creative's X-Fi ones, so I'm a bit stumped here if that is still the case.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Steve,
> >>
> >> You would not want to run with /debug enabled. That is not normal
> >> operation.
> >> In fact, if there is a boot problem the system may halt due to this
> >> switch
> >> and make it exceedingly difficult to regain normal mode.
> >>
> >> Have you analyzed any of the memory dumps yet? 0x8E errors are generally
> >> driver related, and frequently they are video drivers.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best of Luck,
> >>
> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:8BF1D2DD-51E3-4840-8F35-...
> >> > I'm researching the 0x0000008e STOP error which has been plaguing my
> >> > system
> >> > for a couple of months or so. I'd installed 2 further Corsair 8500
> >> > Dominator
> >> > 1GB RAM modules - I already had 2GB of these installed. One of teh new
> >> > modules was immediately found to be faulty by Memtest but the other has
> >> > tested as ok when checked on several occasions overnight (eg 17 passes
> >> > and
> >> > no
> >> > errors).
> >> >
> >> > However, 0x0000008e still occurs at least once daily - usually
> >> > following a
> >> > message that a program or utility has stopped working. These are
> >> > completely
> >> > varied and so I don't suspect the programs themselves. Now I've
> >> > removed
> >> > the
> >> > other added module and am waiting to see what happens - only tried for
> >> > a
> >> > few
> >> > hours so far.
> >> >
> >> > Question: when researching this an MS article referred to one of the
> >> > attendant errors in the brackets as often being caused by the OS
> >> > running
> >> > without the debug switch. How do I set this to run? I think I have to
> >> > add
> >> > /debug to the end of a line in a file but which line and which file and
> >> > where
> >> > is it?
> >> >
> >> > I'm running Vista 32bit Ultimate with an ASUS P5B Deluxe mobo. I've
> >> > updated
> >> > graphics and sound drivers but this had no effect one way or the other.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >>
> >>
>
>

Hi,

It'd be under C:\Windows\Minidump, and the files will be named
C:\Windows\minidump\minixxxxxx-xx.dmp where xxxxxx-xx is the date and
sequence number of the dump. Send the most recent one.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Steve Campbell" <> wrote in message
news:024B07B4-25E5-4E66-803A-...
> Thanks. My page file is set to 4096MB. What's the dump called?
>
> Steve
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> If it's a minidump, send it to me at the email address used here, and a
>> subject line of 'per req'.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in
>> message
>> news:6C65CBFA-FBA3-44E7-8A5C-...
>> > Thanks for getting back Rick. To be honest I'm not sure how to go
>> > about
>> > analysing memory dumps, so any guidance would be gratefully received.
>> > Drivers have always been behind STOP errors I've experienced on my
>> > previous
>> > XP machine but I have the latest nVidia 8800GTS WHQL ones installed and
>> > Creative's X-Fi ones, so I'm a bit stumped here if that is still the
>> > case.
>> >
>> > Thanks again.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Steve,
>> >>
>> >> You would not want to run with /debug enabled. That is not normal
>> >> operation.
>> >> In fact, if there is a boot problem the system may halt due to this
>> >> switch
>> >> and make it exceedingly difficult to regain normal mode.
>> >>
>> >> Have you analyzed any of the memory dumps yet? 0x8E errors are
>> >> generally
>> >> driver related, and frequently they are video drivers.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best of Luck,
>> >>
>> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>> >>
>> >> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:8BF1D2DD-51E3-4840-8F35-...
>> >> > I'm researching the 0x0000008e STOP error which has been plaguing my
>> >> > system
>> >> > for a couple of months or so. I'd installed 2 further Corsair 8500
>> >> > Dominator
>> >> > 1GB RAM modules - I already had 2GB of these installed. One of teh
>> >> > new
>> >> > modules was immediately found to be faulty by Memtest but the other
>> >> > has
>> >> > tested as ok when checked on several occasions overnight (eg 17
>> >> > passes
>> >> > and
>> >> > no
>> >> > errors).
>> >> >
>> >> > However, 0x0000008e still occurs at least once daily - usually
>> >> > following a
>> >> > message that a program or utility has stopped working. These are
>> >> > completely
>> >> > varied and so I don't suspect the programs themselves. Now I've
>> >> > removed
>> >> > the
>> >> > other added module and am waiting to see what happens - only tried
>> >> > for
>> >> > a
>> >> > few
>> >> > hours so far.
>> >> >
>> >> > Question: when researching this an MS article referred to one of the
>> >> > attendant errors in the brackets as often being caused by the OS
>> >> > running
>> >> > without the debug switch. How do I set this to run? I think I have
>> >> > to
>> >> > add
>> >> > /debug to the end of a line in a file but which line and which file
>> >> > and
>> >> > where
>> >> > is it?
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm running Vista 32bit Ultimate with an ASUS P5B Deluxe mobo. I've
>> >> > updated
>> >> > graphics and sound drivers but this had no effect one way or the
>> >> > other.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> > Steve
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

Thanks. Ill do that tomorrow, as it's 0245 here........

Steve

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It'd be under C:\Windows\Minidump, and the files will be named
> C:\Windows\minidump\minixxxxxx-xx.dmp where xxxxxx-xx is the date and
> sequence number of the dump. Send the most recent one.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in message
> news:024B07B4-25E5-4E66-803A-...
> > Thanks. My page file is set to 4096MB. What's the dump called?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Steve,
> >>
> >> If it's a minidump, send it to me at the email address used here, and a
> >> subject line of 'per req'.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best of Luck,
> >>
> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:6C65CBFA-FBA3-44E7-8A5C-...
> >> > Thanks for getting back Rick. To be honest I'm not sure how to go
> >> > about
> >> > analysing memory dumps, so any guidance would be gratefully received.
> >> > Drivers have always been behind STOP errors I've experienced on my
> >> > previous
> >> > XP machine but I have the latest nVidia 8800GTS WHQL ones installed and
> >> > Creative's X-Fi ones, so I'm a bit stumped here if that is still the
> >> > case.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Steve,
> >> >>
> >> >> You would not want to run with /debug enabled. That is not normal
> >> >> operation.
> >> >> In fact, if there is a boot problem the system may halt due to this
> >> >> switch
> >> >> and make it exceedingly difficult to regain normal mode.
> >> >>
> >> >> Have you analyzed any of the memory dumps yet? 0x8E errors are
> >> >> generally
> >> >> driver related, and frequently they are video drivers.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Best of Luck,
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in
> >> >> message
> >> >> news:8BF1D2DD-51E3-4840-8F35-...
> >> >> > I'm researching the 0x0000008e STOP error which has been plaguing my
> >> >> > system
> >> >> > for a couple of months or so. I'd installed 2 further Corsair 8500
> >> >> > Dominator
> >> >> > 1GB RAM modules - I already had 2GB of these installed. One of teh
> >> >> > new
> >> >> > modules was immediately found to be faulty by Memtest but the other
> >> >> > has
> >> >> > tested as ok when checked on several occasions overnight (eg 17
> >> >> > passes
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > no
> >> >> > errors).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > However, 0x0000008e still occurs at least once daily - usually
> >> >> > following a
> >> >> > message that a program or utility has stopped working. These are
> >> >> > completely
> >> >> > varied and so I don't suspect the programs themselves. Now I've
> >> >> > removed
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > other added module and am waiting to see what happens - only tried
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > few
> >> >> > hours so far.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Question: when researching this an MS article referred to one of the
> >> >> > attendant errors in the brackets as often being caused by the OS
> >> >> > running
> >> >> > without the debug switch. How do I set this to run? I think I have
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > add
> >> >> > /debug to the end of a line in a file but which line and which file
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > where
> >> >> > is it?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm running Vista 32bit Ultimate with an ASUS P5B Deluxe mobo. I've
> >> >> > updated
> >> >> > graphics and sound drivers but this had no effect one way or the
> >> >> > other.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Steve
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

Found the folder and it's...... empty!
Why should that be.

Thanks.

Steve

"Steve Campbell" wrote:

> Thanks. Ill do that tomorrow, as it's 0245 here........
>
> Steve
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > It'd be under C:\Windows\Minidump, and the files will be named
> > C:\Windows\minidump\minixxxxxx-xx.dmp where xxxxxx-xx is the date and
> > sequence number of the dump. Send the most recent one.
> >
> > --
> > Best of Luck,
> >
> > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >
> > "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in message
> > news:024B07B4-25E5-4E66-803A-...
> > > Thanks. My page file is set to 4096MB. What's the dump called?
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Steve,
> > >>
> > >> If it's a minidump, send it to me at the email address used here, and a
> > >> subject line of 'per req'.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Best of Luck,
> > >>
> > >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> > >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> > >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> > >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> > >>
> > >> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in
> > >> message
> > >> news:6C65CBFA-FBA3-44E7-8A5C-...
> > >> > Thanks for getting back Rick. To be honest I'm not sure how to go
> > >> > about
> > >> > analysing memory dumps, so any guidance would be gratefully received.
> > >> > Drivers have always been behind STOP errors I've experienced on my
> > >> > previous
> > >> > XP machine but I have the latest nVidia 8800GTS WHQL ones installed and
> > >> > Creative's X-Fi ones, so I'm a bit stumped here if that is still the
> > >> > case.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks again.
> > >> >
> > >> > Steve
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi Steve,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> You would not want to run with /debug enabled. That is not normal
> > >> >> operation.
> > >> >> In fact, if there is a boot problem the system may halt due to this
> > >> >> switch
> > >> >> and make it exceedingly difficult to regain normal mode.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Have you analyzed any of the memory dumps yet? 0x8E errors are
> > >> >> generally
> > >> >> driver related, and frequently they are video drivers.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Best of Luck,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> > >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> > >> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> > >> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in
> > >> >> message
> > >> >> news:8BF1D2DD-51E3-4840-8F35-...
> > >> >> > I'm researching the 0x0000008e STOP error which has been plaguing my
> > >> >> > system
> > >> >> > for a couple of months or so. I'd installed 2 further Corsair 8500
> > >> >> > Dominator
> > >> >> > 1GB RAM modules - I already had 2GB of these installed. One of teh
> > >> >> > new
> > >> >> > modules was immediately found to be faulty by Memtest but the other
> > >> >> > has
> > >> >> > tested as ok when checked on several occasions overnight (eg 17
> > >> >> > passes
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > no
> > >> >> > errors).
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > However, 0x0000008e still occurs at least once daily - usually
> > >> >> > following a
> > >> >> > message that a program or utility has stopped working. These are
> > >> >> > completely
> > >> >> > varied and so I don't suspect the programs themselves. Now I've
> > >> >> > removed
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > other added module and am waiting to see what happens - only tried
> > >> >> > for
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > few
> > >> >> > hours so far.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Question: when researching this an MS article referred to one of the
> > >> >> > attendant errors in the brackets as often being caused by the OS
> > >> >> > running
> > >> >> > without the debug switch. How do I set this to run? I think I have
> > >> >> > to
> > >> >> > add
> > >> >> > /debug to the end of a line in a file but which line and which file
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > where
> > >> >> > is it?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I'm running Vista 32bit Ultimate with an ASUS P5B Deluxe mobo. I've
> > >> >> > updated
> > >> >> > graphics and sound drivers but this had no effect one way or the
> > >> >> > other.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Thanks.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Steve
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >

Hi Steve,

Either you don't have Folder Options set to see hidden and system files, or
you are not creating minidumps when the system crashes, but rather full
memory dumps.

Click start, type "control folders" and hit <enter>. On the view tab, set
the advanced options so that you can see hidden and system files.
Specifically, uncheck the line to "hide protected operating system files"
and select the line to "show hidden files and folders". Then recheck the
Minidump folder.

Click start, type "control system" and hit <enter>. Click the line for
advanced system settings. Click on Startup and Recovery Settings. Towards
the bottom, set the line for writing debugging information to "small memory
dump". Apply/ok your way out. The next time it happens, the minidump should
be created. The kernel memory dump (a memory.dmp file under C:\Windows) will
be far too large to send, and the information necessary to analyze the files
involved should be in the minidump.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Steve Campbell" <> wrote in message
news26FEFA4-7AC0-4C88-BA3F-...
> Found the folder and it's...... empty!
> Why should that be.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Steve
>
> "Steve Campbell" wrote:
>
>> Thanks. Ill do that tomorrow, as it's 0245 here........
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > It'd be under C:\Windows\Minidump, and the files will be named
>> > C:\Windows\minidump\minixxxxxx-xx.dmp where xxxxxx-xx is the date and
>> > sequence number of the dump. Send the most recent one.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best of Luck,
>> >
>> > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>> >
>> > "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:024B07B4-25E5-4E66-803A-...
>> > > Thanks. My page file is set to 4096MB. What's the dump called?
>> > >
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Steve,
>> > >>
>> > >> If it's a minidump, send it to me at the email address used here,
>> > >> and a
>> > >> subject line of 'per req'.
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Best of Luck,
>> > >>
>> > >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> > >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> > >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> > >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>> > >>
>> > >> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in
>> > >> message
>> > >> news:6C65CBFA-FBA3-44E7-8A5C-...
>> > >> > Thanks for getting back Rick. To be honest I'm not sure how to go
>> > >> > about
>> > >> > analysing memory dumps, so any guidance would be gratefully
>> > >> > received.
>> > >> > Drivers have always been behind STOP errors I've experienced on my
>> > >> > previous
>> > >> > XP machine but I have the latest nVidia 8800GTS WHQL ones
>> > >> > installed and
>> > >> > Creative's X-Fi ones, so I'm a bit stumped here if that is still
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > case.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks again.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Steve
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Hi Steve,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> You would not want to run with /debug enabled. That is not normal
>> > >> >> operation.
>> > >> >> In fact, if there is a boot problem the system may halt due to
>> > >> >> this
>> > >> >> switch
>> > >> >> and make it exceedingly difficult to regain normal mode.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Have you analyzed any of the memory dumps yet? 0x8E errors are
>> > >> >> generally
>> > >> >> driver related, and frequently they are video drivers.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> --
>> > >> >> Best of Luck,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> > >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> > >> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> > >> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote
>> > >> >> in
>> > >> >> message
>> > >> >> news:8BF1D2DD-51E3-4840-8F35-...
>> > >> >> > I'm researching the 0x0000008e STOP error which has been
>> > >> >> > plaguing my
>> > >> >> > system
>> > >> >> > for a couple of months or so. I'd installed 2 further Corsair
>> > >> >> > 8500
>> > >> >> > Dominator
>> > >> >> > 1GB RAM modules - I already had 2GB of these installed. One of
>> > >> >> > teh
>> > >> >> > new
>> > >> >> > modules was immediately found to be faulty by Memtest but the
>> > >> >> > other
>> > >> >> > has
>> > >> >> > tested as ok when checked on several occasions overnight (eg 17
>> > >> >> > passes
>> > >> >> > and
>> > >> >> > no
>> > >> >> > errors).
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > However, 0x0000008e still occurs at least once daily - usually
>> > >> >> > following a
>> > >> >> > message that a program or utility has stopped working. These
>> > >> >> > are
>> > >> >> > completely
>> > >> >> > varied and so I don't suspect the programs themselves. Now
>> > >> >> > I've
>> > >> >> > removed
>> > >> >> > the
>> > >> >> > other added module and am waiting to see what happens - only
>> > >> >> > tried
>> > >> >> > for
>> > >> >> > a
>> > >> >> > few
>> > >> >> > hours so far.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Question: when researching this an MS article referred to one
>> > >> >> > of the
>> > >> >> > attendant errors in the brackets as often being caused by the
>> > >> >> > OS
>> > >> >> > running
>> > >> >> > without the debug switch. How do I set this to run? I think I
>> > >> >> > have
>> > >> >> > to
>> > >> >> > add
>> > >> >> > /debug to the end of a line in a file but which line and which
>> > >> >> > file
>> > >> >> > and
>> > >> >> > where
>> > >> >> > is it?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I'm running Vista 32bit Ultimate with an ASUS P5B Deluxe mobo.
>> > >> >> > I've
>> > >> >> > updated
>> > >> >> > graphics and sound drivers but this had no effect one way or
>> > >> >> > the
>> > >> >> > other.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Thanks.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Steve
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >

Thanks. It was set to Kernel. I've now set it to small and will wait to see
once the next crash happens.

Thanks.

Steve

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> Either you don't have Folder Options set to see hidden and system files, or
> you are not creating minidumps when the system crashes, but rather full
> memory dumps.
>
> Click start, type "control folders" and hit <enter>. On the view tab, set
> the advanced options so that you can see hidden and system files.
> Specifically, uncheck the line to "hide protected operating system files"
> and select the line to "show hidden files and folders". Then recheck the
> Minidump folder.
>
> Click start, type "control system" and hit <enter>. Click the line for
> advanced system settings. Click on Startup and Recovery Settings. Towards
> the bottom, set the line for writing debugging information to "small memory
> dump". Apply/ok your way out. The next time it happens, the minidump should
> be created. The kernel memory dump (a memory.dmp file under C:\Windows) will
> be far too large to send, and the information necessary to analyze the files
> involved should be in the minidump.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in message
> news26FEFA4-7AC0-4C88-BA3F-...
> > Found the folder and it's...... empty!
> > Why should that be.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > "Steve Campbell" wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks. Ill do that tomorrow, as it's 0245 here........
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > It'd be under C:\Windows\Minidump, and the files will be named
> >> > C:\Windows\minidump\minixxxxxx-xx.dmp where xxxxxx-xx is the date and
> >> > sequence number of the dump. Send the most recent one.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Best of Luck,
> >> >
> >> > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >> > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >> >
> >> > "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in
> >> > message
> >> > news:024B07B4-25E5-4E66-803A-...
> >> > > Thanks. My page file is set to 4096MB. What's the dump called?
> >> > >
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi Steve,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If it's a minidump, send it to me at the email address used here,
> >> > >> and a
> >> > >> subject line of 'per req'.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Best of Luck,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> > >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> > >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >> > >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote in
> >> > >> message
> >> > >> news:6C65CBFA-FBA3-44E7-8A5C-...
> >> > >> > Thanks for getting back Rick. To be honest I'm not sure how to go
> >> > >> > about
> >> > >> > analysing memory dumps, so any guidance would be gratefully
> >> > >> > received.
> >> > >> > Drivers have always been behind STOP errors I've experienced on my
> >> > >> > previous
> >> > >> > XP machine but I have the latest nVidia 8800GTS WHQL ones
> >> > >> > installed and
> >> > >> > Creative's X-Fi ones, so I'm a bit stumped here if that is still
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > case.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Thanks again.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Steve
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> Hi Steve,
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> You would not want to run with /debug enabled. That is not normal
> >> > >> >> operation.
> >> > >> >> In fact, if there is a boot problem the system may halt due to
> >> > >> >> this
> >> > >> >> switch
> >> > >> >> and make it exceedingly difficult to regain normal mode.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Have you analyzed any of the memory dumps yet? 0x8E errors are
> >> > >> >> generally
> >> > >> >> driver related, and frequently they are video drivers.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> --
> >> > >> >> Best of Luck,
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> > >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> > >> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >> > >> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> "Steve Campbell" <> wrote
> >> > >> >> in
> >> > >> >> message
> >> > >> >> news:8BF1D2DD-51E3-4840-8F35-...
> >> > >> >> > I'm researching the 0x0000008e STOP error which has been
> >> > >> >> > plaguing my
> >> > >> >> > system
> >> > >> >> > for a couple of months or so. I'd installed 2 further Corsair
> >> > >> >> > 8500
> >> > >> >> > Dominator
> >> > >> >> > 1GB RAM modules - I already had 2GB of these installed. One of
> >> > >> >> > teh
> >> > >> >> > new
> >> > >> >> > modules was immediately found to be faulty by Memtest but the
> >> > >> >> > other
> >> > >> >> > has
> >> > >> >> > tested as ok when checked on several occasions overnight (eg 17
> >> > >> >> > passes
> >> > >> >> > and
> >> > >> >> > no
> >> > >> >> > errors).
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > However, 0x0000008e still occurs at least once daily - usually
> >> > >> >> > following a
> >> > >> >> > message that a program or utility has stopped working. These
> >> > >> >> > are
> >> > >> >> > completely
> >> > >> >> > varied and so I don't suspect the programs themselves. Now
> >> > >> >> > I've
> >> > >> >> > removed
> >> > >> >> > the
> >> > >> >> > other added module and am waiting to see what happens - only
> >> > >> >> > tried
> >> > >> >> > for
> >> > >> >> > a
> >> > >> >> > few
> >> > >> >> > hours so far.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Question: when researching this an MS article referred to one
> >> > >> >> > of the
> >> > >> >> > attendant errors in the brackets as often being caused by the
> >> > >> >> > OS
> >> > >> >> > running
> >> > >> >> > without the debug switch. How do I set this to run? I think I
> >> > >> >> > have
> >> > >> >> > to
> >> > >> >> > add
> >> > >> >> > /debug to the end of a line in a file but which line and which
> >> > >> >> > file
> >> > >> >> > and
> >> > >> >> > where
> >> > >> >> > is it?
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > I'm running Vista 32bit Ultimate with an ASUS P5B Deluxe mobo.
> >> > >> >> > I've
> >> > >> >> > updated
> >> > >> >> > graphics and sound drivers but this had no effect one way or
> >> > >> >> > the
> >> > >> >> > other.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Thanks.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Steve
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> >
>
>