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Deinstalling and reinstalling Windows Live Mail

 
 
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      11-25-2009

A few months ago, I tried installing Windows Live Mail on one of my
computers,
and found that the installation did not complete properly, apparantly
because it
was unable to handle importing Windows Mail storage folders containing very
large numbers of unread newsgroup posts (such as 149,000).

Within the last week, I tried installing WLM on another of my computers with
much less in its storage folders; that succeeded and gave me a better user
interface.

Is it possibly to deinstall WLM from the first computer, along with its
rather
incomplete messages database, and start over to get anything that failed to
install
or import the first time? If so, where do I look for the item to uninstall?

Also, my main reason for trying it is to look for a newsreader that can
fully
import my Windows Mail databases, including the over 1500 message rules
I have, and then offer significantly better newsgroup post filtering, such
as
deleting all posts that even mention some web site often mentioned in spam
or any web page at that site. Does WLM allow the user to edit the message
rules, and if so, where is information on how to do that hidden?


 
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R. C. White
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      11-25-2009
Hi, Robert.

You have some pretty heavy requirements there! Maybe I can help with some
of them, but not all.

I'm just one guy with one computer and no net but the Internet. But I've
been using PC's since 1977 and have been online since 1979. Today I use
nothing but Win7 and WLM; I haven't seriously looked at another mail/news
program since Microsoft Internet Mail and News (msimn.exe, OE's foundation
<g>) back in Win95, but I explored lots of options up to then.

> was unable to handle importing Windows Mail storage folders containing
> very
> large numbers of unread newsgroup posts (such as 149,000).


Even with OE in WinXP, I've never had much success importing newsgroup
posts. I've generally had to recreate the News Account - or import the .iaf
file - and then re-download all the messages that were still on the news
server. This was very tedious, and was followed by even more tedious work
of trying to re-mark threads that I had read. (These Microsoft public
newsgroups now retain only about 90 days' worth of messages, but some Usenet
sites go back several years, as I'm sure you know. I've recently been
eliminating duplicate messages caused by multiple imports of Sent Items
folders from previous OE/WM/WLM installations and have found messages going
back at least as far as 1997. Some of my .dbx archives also have newsgroup
posts that old.)

> Is it possibly to deinstall WLM from the first computer,


Yes. Use Add/Remove Programs in WinXP or Programs and Features in Vista or
Win7. I haven't used WinXP or even Vista in so long that I don't remember
details. In Win7's Programs and Features, look for "Windows Live
Essentials" and Uninstall that. It will offer to repair or remove each of
the several components of Essentials, including WLM. In your case, you
probably should remove them all and start over. Note that removing the
applications will NOT automatically delete the Message Store or other
databases.

Before uninstalling that WLM, you should run it and verify the location of
its Message Store: Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance | Store Folder.
Then, from Windows Explorer or a Command Prompt window, you can delete that
entire folder, probably in C:\Users\<username>\...\ but I've relocated mine
so long ago that I've forgotten the exact pathname. Just make sure you've
backed up anything there that you DON'T want to lose. (One way is to run
Windows Easy Transfer, tell it this is the "old computer", and save all your
settings to safe storage space - on your hard drive or a thumb drive,
perhaps - that will be accessible when you run WET on the "new computer" to
restore those settings after reinstalling WLM.)

Since you installed WLM "a few months ago", you might not have the latest
build, which is 14.0.8089.076, released last Spring. You can get the
current version of WLM - and as many of the other Essentials as you want -
at http://download.live.com . The download and install is semi-automatic.

It was easy for me to re-create my Rules, since I have only a dozen or so
Mail Rules and just one News Rule.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64



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> A few months ago, I tried installing Windows Live Mail on one of my
> computers,
> and found that the installation did not complete properly, apparantly
> because it
> was unable to handle importing Windows Mail storage folders containing
> very
> large numbers of unread newsgroup posts (such as 149,000).
>
> Within the last week, I tried installing WLM on another of my computers
> with
> much less in its storage folders; that succeeded and gave me a better user
> interface.
>
> Is it possibly to deinstall WLM from the first computer, along with its
> rather
> incomplete messages database, and start over to get anything that failed
> to install
> or import the first time? If so, where do I look for the item to
> uninstall?
>
> Also, my main reason for trying it is to look for a newsreader that can
> fully
> import my Windows Mail databases, including the over 1500 message rules
> I have, and then offer significantly better newsgroup post filtering, such
> as
> deleting all posts that even mention some web site often mentioned in spam
> or any web page at that site. Does WLM allow the user to edit the message
> rules, and if so, where is information on how to do that hidden?


 
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      11-25-2009

"R. C. White" <> wrote in message
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> But I've been using PC's since 1977


I thought that the IBM PC didn't come out until 1980......

 
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R. C. White
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      11-25-2009
Hi, Gordon.

OK. You got me! I shoulda said "since before PCs were called PCs". ;<}

I bought the first TRS-80 in December 1977. Not the 4 KB RAM model, but the
monster with 16 KB!

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Gordon" <> wrote in message
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> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
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>> But I've been using PC's since 1977

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> I thought that the IBM PC didn't come out until 1980......


 
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...winston
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      11-27-2009
If you've 149,000 newsgroup messages(read or unread) **and*** the messages are present on your hard drive(message including entire
message body content) in Windows Mail, it might be better to export those to a blank Windows Explorer folder in Windows Mail....and
use that as an archive rather than import into WLM.
- If Win7 or Vista, configure the Explorer view to show the 'Subject' column to provide the ability to view the message
subject. Hide or add any other appropriate column.

..winston
msft - mvp

<> wrote in message news:...
> A few months ago, I tried installing Windows Live Mail on one of my computers,
> and found that the installation did not complete properly, apparantly because it
> was unable to handle importing Windows Mail storage folders containing very
> large numbers of unread newsgroup posts (such as 149,000).
>
> Within the last week, I tried installing WLM on another of my computers with
> much less in its storage folders; that succeeded and gave me a better user
> interface.
>
> Is it possibly to deinstall WLM from the first computer, along with its rather
> incomplete messages database, and start over to get anything that failed to install
> or import the first time? If so, where do I look for the item to uninstall?
>
> Also, my main reason for trying it is to look for a newsreader that can fully
> import my Windows Mail databases, including the over 1500 message rules
> I have, and then offer significantly better newsgroup post filtering, such as
> deleting all posts that even mention some web site often mentioned in spam
> or any web page at that site. Does WLM allow the user to edit the message
> rules, and if so, where is information on how to do that hidden?
>

 
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      12-21-2009
"Gordon" <> wrote in message
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> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
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>> But I've been using PC's since 1977

>
> I thought that the IBM PC didn't come out until 1980......


There some other PCs first, such as the three Altairs I
had.


 
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