Deleted Pictures

In real big trouble. My grand kids were playing on my computer this weekend
and deleted several old picture of my parent. When I asked them what they
did, it seems they deleted them to the waste basket and them cleared the
basket. Leaving nothing to restore. Does anyone know if there is some way of
recovering these pictures.
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The old saying what goes up must come down is not true....don''t believe
me....LOOK AT YOU NEXT TAX BILL.

If you are using Windows Vista Business or Ultimate you can use Previous
Versions to restore the files -- right click on the folder, click on
Properties, click on Previous Versions, select one of the previous restore
points in the list and click on Open, then locate the files you need and copy
them back to the folder.

If you are not using Windows Vista Business or Ultimate, you can try to use
a file recovery program such as Recuva, which is one of my personal
favorites. You can download it at http://www.recuva.com/.

I hope this information proves to be useful to you and good luck in
recovering your data, have yourself a great day,

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Regards,
Kristan M. Kenney
Microsoft MVP [Windows - Shell/User]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"lbnich" wrote:

> In real big trouble. My grand kids were playing on my computer this weekend
> and deleted several old picture of my parent. When I asked them what they
> did, it seems they deleted them to the waste basket and them cleared the
> basket. Leaving nothing to restore. Does anyone know if there is some way of
> recovering these pictures.
> --
> The old saying what goes up must come down is not true....don''t believe
> me....LOOK AT YOU NEXT TAX BILL.

http://www.undelete-plus.com/

The above program is OK.
Also, another program called "Restoration"; it is your choice!

"lbnich" wrote:

> In real big trouble. My grand kids were playing on my computer this weekend
> and deleted several old picture of my parent. When I asked them what they
> did, it seems they deleted them to the waste basket and them cleared the
> basket. Leaving nothing to restore. Does anyone know if there is some way of
> recovering these pictures.
> --
> The old saying what goes up must come down is not true....don''t believe
> me....LOOK AT YOU NEXT TAX BILL.

"Mick Murphy" <> wrote in message
news:560A1E40-C9FC-47DC-94DE-...
> http://www.undelete-plus.com/
>
> The above program is OK.
> Also, another program called "Restoration"; it is your choice!

The trouble is that if he uses the computer especially installing stuff he
will probably over write the disk space the pictures were in and he will be
unable to recover anything.

I may as well say what needs saying..

Backup, backup and then backup some more and no, one external hard disk is
not good enough.

>
> "lbnich" wrote:
>
>> In real big trouble. My grand kids were playing on my computer this
>> weekend
>> and deleted several old picture of my parent. When I asked them what
>> they
>> did, it seems they deleted them to the waste basket and them cleared the
>> basket. Leaving nothing to restore. Does anyone know if there is some
>> way of
>> recovering these pictures.
>> --
>> The old saying what goes up must come down is not true....don''t believe
>> me....LOOK AT YOU NEXT TAX BILL.

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:38:53 +0100, "dennis@home"
<> wrote:

>
>"Mick Murphy" <> wrote in message
>news:560A1E40-C9FC-47DC-94DE-...
>> http://www.undelete-plus.com/
>>
>> The above program is OK.
>> Also, another program called "Restoration"; it is your choice!
>
>The trouble is that if he uses the computer especially installing stuff he
>will probably over write the disk space the pictures were in and he will be
>unable to recover anything.

As usual what you said is ah, probably wrong. If you're trying to
recover deleted files installing another program MAY overwrite the
sectors they were in, but saying it is likely to happen is again based
on ignorance. Something Dennis seems to specialize in showing.

The truth is it is unlikely. The reason is simple. Windows writes to
disk sectors in patterns only it knows meaning it is beyond human
intervention. You can't without considerable knowledge tell Windows
write the file starting at this location.

The second thing you got wrong is the odds of it happening go down if
the drive isn't that full due to simple laws of probability. If you
start with a 200 GB hard drive and it's just 20% full writing a new
application that's probably less than 1GB is very unlikely to get
placed in the same sectors of the files you're attempting to recover.
So while the sectors the deleted files were in may be flagged as
delete the odds of them having been already overwritten is small.

Third you didn't bother to ask what drive the deleted files were on.
If on a different physical drive or even a different partition on the
same drive the odds still are in favor the sectors you want to attempt
to recover not getting overwritten won't be. So again Dennis, I'm
sorry, you simply don't know what you're talking about.

So if the photos are one of a kind, depending on their value to the OP
trying to recover them with one of many restoration applications is a
reasonable gamble. It may not work at least not recover them all, then
again it might work at least to the point recovering some.

As further proof it works, as I mentioned recently years ago I was
playing around with ENCASE a LEA favorite as far as forensic software.
Even on a nearly full drive that was in constant use it easily found
and recovered deleted files that were deleted in excess of a year
before.

So Dennis if you want to continue you're some computer expert routine,
go ahead. Just be aware if I'm in a playful mood I probably will blow
you out of the water.

"Adam Albright" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:38:53 +0100, "dennis@home"
> <> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mick Murphy" <> wrote in message
>>news:560A1E40-C9FC-47DC-94DE-...
>>> http://www.undelete-plus.com/
>>>
>>> The above program is OK.
>>> Also, another program called "Restoration"; it is your choice!
>>
>>The trouble is that if he uses the computer especially installing stuff he
>>will probably over write the disk space the pictures were in and he will
>>be
>>unable to recover anything.
>
> As usual what you said is ah, probably wrong. If you're trying to
> recover deleted files installing another program MAY overwrite the
> sectors they were in, but saying it is likely to happen is again based
> on ignorance. Something Dennis seems to specialize in showing.

Hi Crazy, I see you are here showing off your famous expertise again.
Do you know Murphys law?
I can gurantee that if he has used the computer or installs anything he will
lose his data.
Thats life.

>
> The truth is it is unlikely. The reason is simple. Windows writes to
> disk sectors in patterns only it knows meaning it is beyond human
> intervention. You can't without considerable knowledge tell Windows
> write the file starting at this location.

Is that supposed to be English?
You must have forgotten the pills as you appear to have forgotten several
words.

> The second thing you got wrong is the odds of it happening go down if
> the drive isn't that full due to simple laws of probability. If you
> start with a 200 GB hard drive and it's just 20% full writing a new
> application that's probably less than 1GB is very unlikely to get
> placed in the same sectors of the files you're attempting to recover.
> So while the sectors the deleted files were in may be flagged as
> delete the odds of them having been already overwritten is small.

So you can understand how windows allocates sectors even though its beyound
human understanding as you stated above.
That explains a few things about you.
I always did think you were some sort of bot being programmed to test Turins
theory.
Now you admit it.
Back to the AI labs with you to be fixed then.

>
> Third you didn't bother to ask what drive the deleted files were on.
> If on a different physical drive or even a different partition on the
> same drive the odds still are in favor the sectors you want to attempt
> to recover not getting overwritten won't be. So again Dennis, I'm
> sorry, you simply don't know what you're talking about.
>
> So if the photos are one of a kind, depending on their value to the OP
> trying to recover them with one of many restoration applications is a
> reasonable gamble. It may not work at least not recover them all, then
> again it might work at least to the point recovering some.
>
> As further proof it works, as I mentioned recently years ago I was
> playing around with ENCASE a LEA favorite as far as forensic software.
> Even on a nearly full drive that was in constant use it easily found
> and recovered deleted files that were deleted in excess of a year
> before.
>
> So Dennis if you want to continue you're some computer expert routine,
> go ahead. Just be aware if I'm in a playful mood I probably will blow
> you out of the water.
>

Well if you are serious about recovering the pictures why don't you tell him
what he has to do.

One.
turn off the computer and stop using it.
Two
find another computer and install the recovery software and some cloning
software.
Three
image the original drive on the second machine just incase something goes
wrong.
Four
try and recover it.

Now if you really knew anything about data recovery you would have known
that was the basics.

dennis@home is right - do a clone of your hdd (an image), and try to
recover it.

To choose a good recovery application I will advise this website:
http://recovery-review.com/

There are plenty of good reviews of all kinds of data-recovery
applications.
You can use, for example, 'SoftAmbulance Photo Undelete'
(http://recovery-review.com/flash-dis...lete-1-16.html)
to recover all photographic data from all sectors of your drive.

Good luck!


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