DESPERATE - Undeleting from recycle bin installation question

Hello Everyone, I'm new. And in a panic.
Last night I had the silly idea of backing up my pc (using vista
inbuilt backup) when I was tired and sleepy. You guessed it, I ended u
deleting some very, very important files from my pc instead of m
removeable on whch I needed space. Allsorts of files: canon RAW
photoshop, indesign. I did this through my recycle bin. About 50gb
worth.

I realised at the time and immediately stopped using the computer an
switched it off. I am now surfing using an old computer. I have rea
threads about 'recuver' and I'm going to test it on this computer.

My question is this: How do I install it on the pc with the lost files
without it overwriting on the space where my files where? The pc i
question had a partition and all the files were from one partition, s
if I install it on that partition is that ok?

We are talking about 50GBs worth. Is size a problem?

All help very welcome

Thank

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Fred Purs
Posted via http://www.vistaheads.co

Do not install anything new. It could overwrite your deleted files. Store
the app on USB flash drive and run it from there. And don't use installer as
this could add records into registry and possible overwrite some deleted
files. You might not be able to recover those files correctly or some
application might behave erratically.

I used PC Inspector File Recovery some time ago on XP. I'm not sure if it
works on Vista. I haven't used any file recovery tools on VIsta, but I'm
sure there must be couple of good tools out there.


"Fred Purse" <> wrote in
message news:...
>
> Hello Everyone, I'm new. And in a panic.
> Last night I had the silly idea of backing up my pc (using vistas
> inbuilt backup) when I was tired and sleepy. You guessed it, I ended up
> deleting some very, very important files from my pc instead of my
> removeable on whch I needed space. Allsorts of files: canon RAW,
> photoshop, indesign. I did this through my recycle bin. About 50gbs
> worth.
>
> I realised at the time and immediately stopped using the computer and
> switched it off. I am now surfing using an old computer. I have read
> threads about 'recuver' and I'm going to test it on this computer.
>
> My question is this: How do I install it on the pc with the lost files,
> without it overwriting on the space where my files where? The pc in
> question had a partition and all the files were from one partition, so
> if I install it on that partition is that ok?
>
> We are talking about 50GBs worth. Is size a problem?
>
> All help very welcome
>
> Thanks
>
>
> --
> Fred Purse
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>

If you haven't emptied recycle bin you actually don't need to use any tools.
You can just select files, right click and click "Restore".



"Robert Janik" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Do not install anything new. It could overwrite your deleted files. Store
> the app on USB flash drive and run it from there. And don't use installer
> as this could add records into registry and possible overwrite some
> deleted files. You might not be able to recover those files correctly or
> some application might behave erratically.
>
> I used PC Inspector File Recovery some time ago on XP. I'm not sure if it
> works on Vista. I haven't used any file recovery tools on VIsta, but I'm
> sure there must be couple of good tools out there.
>
>
> "Fred Purse" <> wrote in
> message news:...
>>
>> Hello Everyone, I'm new. And in a panic.
>> Last night I had the silly idea of backing up my pc (using vistas
>> inbuilt backup) when I was tired and sleepy. You guessed it, I ended up
>> deleting some very, very important files from my pc instead of my
>> removeable on whch I needed space. Allsorts of files: canon RAW,
>> photoshop, indesign. I did this through my recycle bin. About 50gbs
>> worth.
>>
>> I realised at the time and immediately stopped using the computer and
>> switched it off. I am now surfing using an old computer. I have read
>> threads about 'recuver' and I'm going to test it on this computer.
>>
>> My question is this: How do I install it on the pc with the lost files,
>> without it overwriting on the space where my files where? The pc in
>> question had a partition and all the files were from one partition, so
>> if I install it on that partition is that ok?
>>
>> We are talking about 50GBs worth. Is size a problem?
>>
>> All help very welcome
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fred Purse
>> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>>

Hi Guys,

Thanks, will install recuver on usb stick. sorry I meant to say I woul
install it on the OTHER partition not the same one, but a stick is th
safest bet.

Cheers

James



Robert Janik;1680992 Wrote:
> If you haven't emptied recycle bin you actually don't need to use an
> tools.
> You can just select files, right click and click "Restore".
>
>
>
> "Robert Janik" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Do not install anything new. It could overwrite your deleted files
> Store
> > the app on USB flash drive and run it from there. And don't us
> installer
> > as this could add records into registry and possible overwrite some
> > deleted files. You might not be able to recover those files correctl
> or
> > some application might behave erratically.
> >
> > I used PC Inspector File Recovery some time ago on XP. I'm not sur
> if it
> > works on Vista. I haven't used any file recovery tools on VIsta, bu
> I'm
> > sure there must be couple of good tools out there.
> >
> >
> > "Fred Purse" <> wrot
> in
> > message news:...
> >>
> >> Hello Everyone, I'm new. And in a panic.
> >> Last night I had the silly idea of backing up my pc (using vistas
> >> inbuilt backup) when I was tired and sleepy. You guessed it,
> ended up
> >> deleting some very, very important files from my pc instead of my
> >> removeable on whch I needed space. Allsorts of files: canon RAW,
> >> photoshop, indesign. I did this through my recycle bin. Abou
> 50gbs
> >> worth.
> >>
> >> I realised at the time and immediately stopped using the compute
> and
> >> switched it off. I am now surfing using an old computer. I hav
> read
> >> threads about 'recuver' and I'm going to test it on this computer.
> >>
> >> My question is this: How do I install it on the pc with the los
> files,
> >> without it overwriting on the space where my files where? The p
> in
> >> question had a partition and all the files were from one partition
> so
> >> if I install it on that partition is that ok?
> >>
> >> We are talking about 50GBs worth. Is size a problem?
> >>
> >> All help very welcome
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Fred Purse
> >> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
> >

--
Fred Purs
Posted via http://www.vistaheads.co

If you switched off your computer, it may not be a good idea to switch it on
again. During Windows boot, various services and applications in Windows
create many temporary files which will occupy the space (and directory
entries) that you freed when you deleted your files.

The safe way would be:
- remove the disk from your computer,
- install the disk in an external USB2 enclosure
- install undelete/recovery application on another computer
- connect your disk, now in USB2 external enclosure, to the computer where
you will try to recover your files.

Good luck

"Fred Purse" <> wrote in
message news:...
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Thanks, will install recuver on usb stick. sorry I meant to say I would
> install it on the OTHER partition not the same one, but a stick is the
> safest bet.
>
> Cheers
>
> James
>
>
>
> Robert Janik;1680992 Wrote:
>> If you haven't emptied recycle bin you actually don't need to use any
>> tools.
>> You can just select files, right click and click "Restore".
>>
>>
>>
>> "Robert Janik" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > Do not install anything new. It could overwrite your deleted files.
>> Store
>> > the app on USB flash drive and run it from there. And don't use
>> installer
>> > as this could add records into registry and possible overwrite some
>> > deleted files. You might not be able to recover those files correctly
>> or
>> > some application might behave erratically.
>> >
>> > I used PC Inspector File Recovery some time ago on XP. I'm not sure
>> if it
>> > works on Vista. I haven't used any file recovery tools on VIsta, but
>> I'm
>> > sure there must be couple of good tools out there.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Fred Purse" <> wrote
>> in
>> > message news:...
>> >>
>> >> Hello Everyone, I'm new. And in a panic.
>> >> Last night I had the silly idea of backing up my pc (using vistas
>> >> inbuilt backup) when I was tired and sleepy. You guessed it, I
>> ended up
>> >> deleting some very, very important files from my pc instead of my
>> >> removeable on whch I needed space. Allsorts of files: canon RAW,
>> >> photoshop, indesign. I did this through my recycle bin. About
>> 50gbs
>> >> worth.
>> >>
>> >> I realised at the time and immediately stopped using the computer
>> and
>> >> switched it off. I am now surfing using an old computer. I have
>> read
>> >> threads about 'recuver' and I'm going to test it on this computer.
>> >>
>> >> My question is this: How do I install it on the pc with the lost
>> files,
>> >> without it overwriting on the space where my files where? The pc
>> in
>> >> question had a partition and all the files were from one partition,
>> so
>> >> if I install it on that partition is that ok?
>> >>
>> >> We are talking about 50GBs worth. Is size a problem?
>> >>
>> >> All help very welcome
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Fred Purse
>> >> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>> >>
>
>
> --
> Fred Purse
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>

Take out the Hard Drive and either install it as a Slave in another computer or do
as Dusko posted.

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"Fred Purse" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hello Everyone, I'm new. And in a panic.
> Last night I had the silly idea of backing up my pc (using vistas
> inbuilt backup) when I was tired and sleepy. You guessed it, I ended up
> deleting some very, very important files from my pc instead of my
> removeable on whch I needed space. Allsorts of files: canon RAW,
> photoshop, indesign. I did this through my recycle bin. About 50gbs
> worth.
>
> I realised at the time and immediately stopped using the computer and
> switched it off. I am now surfing using an old computer. I have read
> threads about 'recuver' and I'm going to test it on this computer.
>
> My question is this: How do I install it on the pc with the lost files,
> without it overwriting on the space where my files where? The pc in
> question had a partition and all the files were from one partition, so
> if I install it on that partition is that ok?
>
> We are talking about 50GBs worth. Is size a problem?
>
> All help very welcome
>
> Thanks
>
>
> --
> Fred Purse
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>

Fred Purse wrote:
> Hello Everyone, I'm new. And in a panic.
> Last night I had the silly idea of backing up my pc (using vistas
> inbuilt backup) when I was tired and sleepy. You guessed it, I
> ended up deleting some very, very important files from my pc
> instead of my removeable on whch I needed space. Allsorts of
> files: canon RAW, photoshop, indesign. I did this through my
> recycle bin. About 50gbs worth.
>
> I realised at the time and immediately stopped using the computer
> and switched it off. I am now surfing using an old computer. I
> have read threads about 'recuver' and I'm going to test it on this
> computer.
>
> My question is this: How do I install it on the pc with the lost
> files, without it overwriting on the space where my files where?
> The pc in question had a partition and all the files were from one
> partition, so if I install it on that partition is that ok?
>
> We are talking about 50GBs worth. Is size a problem?
>
> All help very welcome

What does "I did this through my recycle bin" mean? You erased these
things, then right clicked on your recycle bin and emptied it? You dragged
and dropped these things into your recycle bin?

BTW - it is "Recuva" - a freeware application - good only if you have
emptied the recycle bin - if you used it at all (no SHIFT+DELETE, etc.)
"Undelete" is another (not free) good application.

However - there is a catch here. You turned off the computer. When it
boots up - all sorts of files will be accessed, temporary files written and
erased during the startup. Chances are things that have been erased *and*
removed fromt he recycle bin will be overwritten. So...

If you put everything in the recycle bin and did not empty it or get a
message about things being too large while erasing and it was going to skip
the recycle bin and you clicked "OK" to... Boot up and recover things (open
the recycle bin, restore everything you erased.) I would expect when you
boot up for a lot of complaining to happen - as it will probably try to load
things it cannot find.

If you did skip the recycle bin or empty it or get a message about things
being too large for the recycle bin and you clicked "OK" to that message -
then booting up could destroy some of your missing data just by its natural
processes.

If the latter is true - you have a couple of choices...

1) Take out the hard disk drive, connect it in some way to another computer
(but not as the only/primary drive) and boot that computer and use the tools
mentioned already.

2) Boot up and since it sounds like you erased actual programs (not your
files, stuff you made) just re-install the programs from the installation
media. You were *thinking* you were erasing this stuff from your backup
drive - right? If that is true - you must have been thinking, "I have the
installation media for these applications - so if something goes wrong, I
will just install it from the original media.", right? So do just that.
Kinda sucks, sure - but it is a good lesson on when not to decide things
like this (when you are tired) and in the value of backups (get a larger
backup drive, remove stuff from your actual computer hard disk you rarely
use and/or get a bigger local hard disk drive if you need more space.)

I also suggest changing your backup plan. Purchase and utilize a 500GB
Seagate Replica. Allow it to backup your data. It will backup *everything*
in such a way that you can restore from a complete disaster (even this or
worse - like needing to replace the hard disk drive completely) or just
allow you to get back a version of a Word document you saved over. And it
is easy. There are imaging utilities out thee, freeware and pay ones as
well as good backup utilities that supplement or replace the built-in
stuff - but none - IMHO - is as easy as something like the Seagate Replica.
(No - I don't work for Seagate - and maybe there are products like it out
there now - feel free to look - I juts have experience with people and the
Seagate Replica and have watched it save people in many situations. ;-) )

In any case - you need to be very careful in how you proceed. If still
unsure - give more details here based off these responses you have received
and get more advice first. You may even want to remove the drive, put in
another computer and take an image of it with some software now - in case
things go horrible wrong.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Perhaps you don't even need to remove the disk from your computer.

1. Set BIOS to boot from DVD
2. Insert USB stick with your recovery application
3. Boot from Vista DVD. It will automatically load USB driver and make USB
drive accessible
4. Choose Repair
5. Start the command line
6. Switch to USB and execute recovery app
7. Restore deleted files on C: drive
8. Reboot


"Dusko Savatovic" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> If you switched off your computer, it may not be a good idea to switch it
> on again. During Windows boot, various services and applications in
> Windows create many temporary files which will occupy the space (and
> directory entries) that you freed when you deleted your files.
>
> The safe way would be:
> - remove the disk from your computer,
> - install the disk in an external USB2 enclosure
> - install undelete/recovery application on another computer
> - connect your disk, now in USB2 external enclosure, to the computer where
> you will try to recover your files.
>
> Good luck
>
> "Fred Purse" <> wrote in
> message news:...
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Thanks, will install recuver on usb stick. sorry I meant to say I would
>> install it on the OTHER partition not the same one, but a stick is the
>> safest bet.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert Janik;1680992 Wrote:
>>> If you haven't emptied recycle bin you actually don't need to use any
>>> tools.
>>> You can just select files, right click and click "Restore".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Robert Janik" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>> > Do not install anything new. It could overwrite your deleted files.
>>> Store
>>> > the app on USB flash drive and run it from there. And don't use
>>> installer
>>> > as this could add records into registry and possible overwrite some
>>> > deleted files. You might not be able to recover those files correctly
>>> or
>>> > some application might behave erratically.
>>> >
>>> > I used PC Inspector File Recovery some time ago on XP. I'm not sure
>>> if it
>>> > works on Vista. I haven't used any file recovery tools on VIsta, but
>>> I'm
>>> > sure there must be couple of good tools out there.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Fred Purse" <> wrote
>>> in
>>> > message news:...
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello Everyone, I'm new. And in a panic.
>>> >> Last night I had the silly idea of backing up my pc (using vistas
>>> >> inbuilt backup) when I was tired and sleepy. You guessed it, I
>>> ended up
>>> >> deleting some very, very important files from my pc instead of my
>>> >> removeable on whch I needed space. Allsorts of files: canon RAW,
>>> >> photoshop, indesign. I did this through my recycle bin. About
>>> 50gbs
>>> >> worth.
>>> >>
>>> >> I realised at the time and immediately stopped using the computer
>>> and
>>> >> switched it off. I am now surfing using an old computer. I have
>>> read
>>> >> threads about 'recuver' and I'm going to test it on this computer.
>>> >>
>>> >> My question is this: How do I install it on the pc with the lost
>>> files,
>>> >> without it overwriting on the space where my files where? The pc
>>> in
>>> >> question had a partition and all the files were from one partition,
>>> so
>>> >> if I install it on that partition is that ok?
>>> >>
>>> >> We are talking about 50GBs worth. Is size a problem?
>>> >>
>>> >> All help very welcome
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Fred Purse
>>> >> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>>> >>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fred Purse
>> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>>