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Ferg
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      07-24-2009
G'Day All,

Greetings and best wishes. I posted this on the AD list but, after thinking
about it, I believe this list is the better one.
I have searched high and low for a solution here and am stumpped. I have not
found anything. I am trying to accomplist the following.

In my AD I have 3 OU - <Staff>, <Associates>, <Partners>
I also have two different internet connections each with their own firewall,
LAN IP, and range of WAN IPs.
192.192.192.77 Internet Connection #1
192.192.192.87 Internet Connection #2

How can I, through AD, Logon Scripts, DNS, DHCP or whatever, set <STAFF> to
ALWAYS use Internet Connection#2 as the default gateway,
<Associates> and <Partners> to ALWAYS use Internet Connection#1 as the
default gateway.

Many thanks

Mike


 
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Anthony [MVP]
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      07-24-2009
Ferg,
Put staff in VLAN 1 and Associates and Partners in VLAN2,
Anthony
http://www.airdesk.com

"Ferg" <> wrote in message
news:...
> G'Day All,
>
> Greetings and best wishes. I posted this on the AD list but, after
> thinking about it, I believe this list is the better one.
> I have searched high and low for a solution here and am stumpped. I have
> not
> found anything. I am trying to accomplist the following.
>
> In my AD I have 3 OU - <Staff>, <Associates>, <Partners>
> I also have two different internet connections each with their own
> firewall,
> LAN IP, and range of WAN IPs.
> 192.192.192.77 Internet Connection #1
> 192.192.192.87 Internet Connection #2
>
> How can I, through AD, Logon Scripts, DNS, DHCP or whatever, set <STAFF>
> to
> ALWAYS use Internet Connection#2 as the default gateway,
> <Associates> and <Partners> to ALWAYS use Internet Connection#1 as the
> default gateway.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Mike
>
>

 
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Ferg
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      07-24-2009
Anthony,
Thanks very much for the reply. Can you please expound on your reply as I do
not currently have any VLAN configured.

Thanks

"Anthony [MVP]" <> wrote in message
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> Ferg,
> Put staff in VLAN 1 and Associates and Partners in VLAN2,
> Anthony
> http://www.airdesk.com
>
> "Ferg" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> G'Day All,
>>
>> Greetings and best wishes. I posted this on the AD list but, after
>> thinking about it, I believe this list is the better one.
>> I have searched high and low for a solution here and am stumpped. I have
>> not
>> found anything. I am trying to accomplist the following.
>>
>> In my AD I have 3 OU - <Staff>, <Associates>, <Partners>
>> I also have two different internet connections each with their own
>> firewall,
>> LAN IP, and range of WAN IPs.
>> 192.192.192.77 Internet Connection #1
>> 192.192.192.87 Internet Connection #2
>>
>> How can I, through AD, Logon Scripts, DNS, DHCP or whatever, set <STAFF>
>> to
>> ALWAYS use Internet Connection#2 as the default gateway,
>> <Associates> and <Partners> to ALWAYS use Internet Connection#1 as the
>> default gateway.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>



 
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Ferg
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      07-24-2009
By the way. I filled out Contact Airdesk on your website as I have a
possible CITRIX project. Look out for it.

Thanks
"Anthony [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:2F84AE8D-B86C-464C-B18B-...
> Ferg,
> Put staff in VLAN 1 and Associates and Partners in VLAN2,
> Anthony
> http://www.airdesk.com
>
> "Ferg" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> G'Day All,
>>
>> Greetings and best wishes. I posted this on the AD list but, after
>> thinking about it, I believe this list is the better one.
>> I have searched high and low for a solution here and am stumpped. I have
>> not
>> found anything. I am trying to accomplist the following.
>>
>> In my AD I have 3 OU - <Staff>, <Associates>, <Partners>
>> I also have two different internet connections each with their own
>> firewall,
>> LAN IP, and range of WAN IPs.
>> 192.192.192.77 Internet Connection #1
>> 192.192.192.87 Internet Connection #2
>>
>> How can I, through AD, Logon Scripts, DNS, DHCP or whatever, set <STAFF>
>> to
>> ALWAYS use Internet Connection#2 as the default gateway,
>> <Associates> and <Partners> to ALWAYS use Internet Connection#1 as the
>> default gateway.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>



 
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Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
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      07-24-2009
Hello Ferg,

Answered to the same posting with different subject "AD-DNS-DHCP" microsoft.public.windows.server.active_directory

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> G'Day All,
>
> Greetings and best wishes. I posted this on the AD list but, after
> thinking
> about it, I believe this list is the better one.
> I have searched high and low for a solution here and am stumpped. I
> have not
> found anything. I am trying to accomplist the following.
> In my AD I have 3 OU - <Staff>, <Associates>, <Partners>
> I also have two different internet connections each with their own
> firewall,
> LAN IP, and range of WAN IPs.
> 192.192.192.77 Internet Connection #1
> 192.192.192.87 Internet Connection #2
> How can I, through AD, Logon Scripts, DNS, DHCP or whatever, set
> <STAFF> to
> ALWAYS use Internet Connection#2 as the default gateway,
> <Associates> and <Partners> to ALWAYS use Internet Connection#1 as the
> default gateway.
> Many thanks
>
> Mike
>



 
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Ferg
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      07-24-2009
Thanks very much. 'preciate it greatly....



"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
news: .com...
> Hello Ferg,
>
> Answered to the same posting with different subject "AD-DNS-DHCP"
> microsoft.public.windows.server.active_directory
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> G'Day All,
>>
>> Greetings and best wishes. I posted this on the AD list but, after
>> thinking
>> about it, I believe this list is the better one.
>> I have searched high and low for a solution here and am stumpped. I
>> have not
>> found anything. I am trying to accomplist the following.
>> In my AD I have 3 OU - <Staff>, <Associates>, <Partners>
>> I also have two different internet connections each with their own
>> firewall,
>> LAN IP, and range of WAN IPs.
>> 192.192.192.77 Internet Connection #1
>> 192.192.192.87 Internet Connection #2
>> How can I, through AD, Logon Scripts, DNS, DHCP or whatever, set
>> <STAFF> to
>> ALWAYS use Internet Connection#2 as the default gateway,
>> <Associates> and <Partners> to ALWAYS use Internet Connection#1 as the
>> default gateway.
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Mike
>>

>
>



 
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Ace Fekay [MCT]
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      07-24-2009
"Ferg" <> wrote in message
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> Thanks very much. 'preciate it greatly....


I responded as well. Keep in mind, most, if not all the engineers/responders
in these group, monitor both of these groups, as well as many other groups.

Ace


 
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Ace Fekay [MCT]
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      07-24-2009
"Ferg" <> wrote in message
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> Anthony,
> Thanks very much for the reply. Can you please expound on your reply as I
> do not currently have any VLAN configured.
>


What type of switch do you have (brand/model)? Is it VLAN capable?

If so, what Anthony's suggesting is to pick a port on the switch, say port
#7, set that to VLAN1, provide an IP subnet for the one group of folks, and
plug another switch into this port tha thave all the workstations from that
group plugged into it. Then pick another port, say port #8 and create VLAN2,
provide a separate IP subnet, then plug a whole different switch into it
that has the other group of workstations plugged into it. Each VLAN can be
defined to have it's own gateway, which of course you would need to
configure another port with that ISP's router plugged into it. Say if ISP1
is plugged into port1, then create a trunk between port1 and port7. Then
plug ISP#2 into port2, then trunk that to port8.

Make sense? If not, I would suggest to put in a call to your switch vendor's
support to ask them for asistance. They will be more than happy to help. If
you don't have a VLAN capable switch, they are relatively inexpensive these
days. An 8 port Cisco or Dell may cost you $100 or so, or even look at some
of the auction sites to get it for a fraction of that.

Ace


 
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Anthony [MVP]
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      07-25-2009
Thanks, I will look out for it

"Ferg" <> wrote in message
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> By the way. I filled out Contact Airdesk on your website as I have a
> possible CITRIX project. Look out for it.
>
> Thanks
> "Anthony [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:2F84AE8D-B86C-464C-B18B-...
>> Ferg,
>> Put staff in VLAN 1 and Associates and Partners in VLAN2,
>> Anthony
>> http://www.airdesk.com
>>
>> "Ferg" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> G'Day All,
>>>
>>> Greetings and best wishes. I posted this on the AD list but, after
>>> thinking about it, I believe this list is the better one.
>>> I have searched high and low for a solution here and am stumpped. I have
>>> not
>>> found anything. I am trying to accomplist the following.
>>>
>>> In my AD I have 3 OU - <Staff>, <Associates>, <Partners>
>>> I also have two different internet connections each with their own
>>> firewall,
>>> LAN IP, and range of WAN IPs.
>>> 192.192.192.77 Internet Connection #1
>>> 192.192.192.87 Internet Connection #2
>>>
>>> How can I, through AD, Logon Scripts, DNS, DHCP or whatever, set <STAFF>
>>> to
>>> ALWAYS use Internet Connection#2 as the default gateway,
>>> <Associates> and <Partners> to ALWAYS use Internet Connection#1 as the
>>> default gateway.
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>

>
>

 
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Anthony [MVP]
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      07-25-2009
Ferg,
Exactly as ACE describes.
If you have separate VLAN's they will get different DHCP options. You just
need to assign the ports on the switch to the required VLAN, but that is
easy to do, and you should already be administering the ports for Access
security purposes.

More generally, it sounds as though you want to provide a different Quality
of Service for different users. Using different gateways is a physical
implementation of this, but wasteful and inflexible. Unused bandwidth cannot
be used even by low priority services, and you don't have load balancing.
Using QoS you could assign different priorities to different hosts. Then
Staff (or servers) could use all the bandwidth they want but Associates or
Partners would bump them down when they want it. You would need to
investigate the QoS options for whatever type of equipment you have, or buy
a traffic shaping device,
Hope that helps,
Anthony
http://www.airdesk.com






"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <> wrote in message
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> "Ferg" <> wrote in message
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>> Anthony,
>> Thanks very much for the reply. Can you please expound on your reply as I
>> do not currently have any VLAN configured.
>>

>
> What type of switch do you have (brand/model)? Is it VLAN capable?
>
> If so, what Anthony's suggesting is to pick a port on the switch, say port
> #7, set that to VLAN1, provide an IP subnet for the one group of folks,
> and plug another switch into this port tha thave all the workstations from
> that group plugged into it. Then pick another port, say port #8 and create
> VLAN2, provide a separate IP subnet, then plug a whole different switch
> into it that has the other group of workstations plugged into it. Each
> VLAN can be defined to have it's own gateway, which of course you would
> need to configure another port with that ISP's router plugged into it. Say
> if ISP1 is plugged into port1, then create a trunk between port1 and
> port7. Then plug ISP#2 into port2, then trunk that to port8.
>
> Make sense? If not, I would suggest to put in a call to your switch
> vendor's support to ask them for asistance. They will be more than happy
> to help. If you don't have a VLAN capable switch, they are relatively
> inexpensive these days. An 8 port Cisco or Dell may cost you $100 or so,
> or even look at some of the auction sites to get it for a fraction of
> that.
>
> Ace
>
>

 
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