DNS problem? I don't believe it but can it be my router?

My LAN is connected to Internet (ADSL) through a DLink DI-804
router which has been serving me well during many years now.

Recently I added a new Vista (Home Premium) machine to my
LAN; From before I have one XP, one 98SE and one 98 machine.

My Vista can connect to some of my preferred nodes, but for
instance www.microsoft.com is unreachable. One consequence
is that Windows Defender claims that it is out of date and I am
completely unable tu update its signatures.

There are no obvious anomalities in status reports from the router
or in responses to ipconfig commands.

I have tried all kinds of recovery, flushing the DNS cache,
restarting the router and so on, but in a post somewhere
i found a note that Vista has implemented a new IP-stack
which my router might not be serving correctly?

1: Is this a reality?

2: Is there any way I specifically can test my router for this
problem?

I shall be most grateful for any information.

regards Sven

* Sven Pran:
> My LAN is connected to Internet (ADSL) through a DLink DI-804 router which has been serving
> me well during many years now.
>
> Recently I added a new Vista (Home Premium) machine to my LAN; From before I have one XP,
> one 98SE and one 98 machine.
>
> My Vista can connect to some of my preferred nodes, but for instance www.microsoft.com is
> unreachable. One consequence is that Windows Defender claims that it is out of date and I am
> completely unable tu update its signatures.
>
> There are no obvious anomalities in status reports from the router or in responses to
> ipconfig commands.
>
> I have tried all kinds of recovery, flushing the DNS cache, restarting the router and so on,
> but in a post somewhere i found a note that Vista has implemented a new IP-stack which my
> router might not be serving correctly?

Some older routers don't work well or at all with Vista.
For some users, turning off UPnP on the router or/and
turning it off in Vista's Services, *may* help.

Also, have a look at the links below.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932134
An outdated network router may not function correctly when you use it together with new
networking features in Windows Vista

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/usi...d/default.mspx
Internet Connectivity Evaluation Tool
The Internet Connectivity Evaluation Tool checks your Internet router to see if it supports
certain technologies. You can use this tool on a PC running either the Windows Vista or Windows
XP operating system.


-Michael

MICHAEL wrote:
> * Sven Pran:
>> My LAN is connected to Internet (ADSL) through a DLink DI-804 router which has been serving
>> me well during many years now.
>>
>> Recently I added a new Vista (Home Premium) machine to my LAN; From before I have one XP,
>> one 98SE and one 98 machine.
>>
>> My Vista can connect to some of my preferred nodes, but for instance www.microsoft.com is
>> unreachable. One consequence is that Windows Defender claims that it is out of date and I am
>> completely unable tu update its signatures.
>>
>> There are no obvious anomalities in status reports from the router or in responses to
>> ipconfig commands.
>>
>> I have tried all kinds of recovery, flushing the DNS cache, restarting the router and so on,
>> but in a post somewhere i found a note that Vista has implemented a new IP-stack which my
>> router might not be serving correctly?
>
> Some older routers don't work well or at all with Vista.
> For some users, turning off UPnP on the router or/and
> turning it off in Vista's Services, *may* help.
>
> Also, have a look at the links below.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932134
> An outdated network router may not function correctly when you use it together with new
> networking features in Windows Vista
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/usi...d/default.mspx
> Internet Connectivity Evaluation Tool
> The Internet Connectivity Evaluation Tool checks your Internet router to see if it supports
> certain technologies. You can use this tool on a PC running either the Windows Vista or Windows
> XP operating system.
>
>
> -Michael

The hardware cost of owning Vista goes up and up and up.

--
Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Have you installed firmware upgrade version 4.68?
http://support.dlink.com/products/vi...=DI%2D804#firm

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"Sven Pran" <> wrote in message news:eUzoo3%...
My LAN is connected to Internet (ADSL) through a DLink DI-804
router which has been serving me well during many years now.

Recently I added a new Vista (Home Premium) machine to my
LAN; From before I have one XP, one 98SE and one 98 machine.

My Vista can connect to some of my preferred nodes, but for
instance www.microsoft.com is unreachable. One consequence
is that Windows Defender claims that it is out of date and I am
completely unable tu update its signatures.

There are no obvious anomalities in status reports from the router
or in responses to ipconfig commands.

I have tried all kinds of recovery, flushing the DNS cache,
restarting the router and so on, but in a post somewhere
i found a note that Vista has implemented a new IP-stack
which my router might not be serving correctly?

1: Is this a reality?

2: Is there any way I specifically can test my router for this
problem?

I shall be most grateful for any information.

regards Sven

The thing I haven't seen mentioned is that some malware will disable sites
like Microsoft.com and other sites (like online virus scanners).
They do this to make it harder to get the software needed to remove the
malware.
I don't know if this is your problem, but it is a possibility.
In some case's, the site is added to your 'restricted' zone in IE.
You might check that list and see if somehow your preferred urls somehow
were added to the restricted, instead of trusted, zone.
--
A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!

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"Sven Pran" <> wrote in message
news:eUzoo3%...
> My LAN is connected to Internet (ADSL) through a DLink DI-804
> router which has been serving me well during many years now.
>
> Recently I added a new Vista (Home Premium) machine to my
> LAN; From before I have one XP, one 98SE and one 98 machine.
>
> My Vista can connect to some of my preferred nodes, but for
> instance www.microsoft.com is unreachable. One consequence
> is that Windows Defender claims that it is out of date and I am
> completely unable tu update its signatures.
>
> There are no obvious anomalities in status reports from the router
> or in responses to ipconfig commands.
>
> I have tried all kinds of recovery, flushing the DNS cache,
> restarting the router and so on, but in a post somewhere
> i found a note that Vista has implemented a new IP-stack
> which my router might not be serving correctly?
>
> 1: Is this a reality?
>
> 2: Is there any way I specifically can test my router for this
> problem?
>
> I shall be most grateful for any information.
>
> regards Sven
>

No, but first of all be aware that my router model number is DI-804
with absolutely no letters appended. I know that there has been quite
a few newer versions of the 804 during the years.

Then I believe that there are fundamental differences so that I must
have firmware applicable to Norway and cannot use whatever.

But I have sent a message to DLINK asking for information (DI-804
aren't even listed among their products any more)

regards Sven

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:00E45663-6518-49CA-BBD9-...
> Have you installed firmware upgrade version 4.68?
> http://support.dlink.com/products/vi...=DI%2D804#firm
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Sven Pran" <> wrote in message
> news:eUzoo3%...
> My LAN is connected to Internet (ADSL) through a DLink DI-804
> router which has been serving me well during many years now.
>
> Recently I added a new Vista (Home Premium) machine to my
> LAN; From before I have one XP, one 98SE and one 98 machine.
>
> My Vista can connect to some of my preferred nodes, but for
> instance www.microsoft.com is unreachable. One consequence
> is that Windows Defender claims that it is out of date and I am
> completely unable tu update its signatures.
>
> There are no obvious anomalities in status reports from the router
> or in responses to ipconfig commands.
>
> I have tried all kinds of recovery, flushing the DNS cache,
> restarting the router and so on, but in a post somewhere
> i found a note that Vista has implemented a new IP-stack
> which my router might not be serving correctly?
>
> 1: Is this a reality?
>
> 2: Is there any way I specifically can test my router for this
> problem?
>
> I shall be most grateful for any information.
>
> regards Sven
>
>

Good idea, but that can hardly be the case.

First of all I have tried command prompt: ping www.microsoft.com
and had the response that the address could not be resolved when
I did this from Vista while from XP through the same router there
was no problem.

And both the restricted and the trusted zones are empty.

Besides, unless some malware was already on my machine when
delivered from DELL which I frankly doubt) I do not see how it can
have got itself into it.

But thanks for your comments.

regards Sven

"Not Me" <> wrote in message
news:%23%...
> The thing I haven't seen mentioned is that some malware will disable sites
> like Microsoft.com and other sites (like online virus scanners).
> They do this to make it harder to get the software needed to remove the
> malware.
> I don't know if this is your problem, but it is a possibility.
> In some case's, the site is added to your 'restricted' zone in IE.
> You might check that list and see if somehow your preferred urls somehow
> were added to the restricted, instead of trusted, zone.
> --
> A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
>
> Change Alpha to Numeric to reply
> "Sven Pran" <> wrote in message
> news:eUzoo3%...
>> My LAN is connected to Internet (ADSL) through a DLink DI-804
>> router which has been serving me well during many years now.
>>
>> Recently I added a new Vista (Home Premium) machine to my
>> LAN; From before I have one XP, one 98SE and one 98 machine.
>>
>> My Vista can connect to some of my preferred nodes, but for
>> instance www.microsoft.com is unreachable. One consequence
>> is that Windows Defender claims that it is out of date and I am
>> completely unable tu update its signatures.
>>
>> There are no obvious anomalities in status reports from the router
>> or in responses to ipconfig commands.
>>
>> I have tried all kinds of recovery, flushing the DNS cache,
>> restarting the router and so on, but in a post somewhere
>> i found a note that Vista has implemented a new IP-stack
>> which my router might not be serving correctly?
>>
>> 1: Is this a reality?
>>
>> 2: Is there any way I specifically can test my router for this
>> problem?
>>
>> I shall be most grateful for any information.
>>
>> regards Sven
>>
>
>

did you try turning off IPV6?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929852/en-us

"Sven Pran" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Good idea, but that can hardly be the case.
>
> First of all I have tried command prompt: ping www.microsoft.com
> and had the response that the address could not be resolved when
> I did this from Vista while from XP through the same router there
> was no problem.
>
> And both the restricted and the trusted zones are empty.
>
> Besides, unless some malware was already on my machine when
> delivered from DELL which I frankly doubt) I do not see how it can
> have got itself into it.
>
> But thanks for your comments.
>
> regards Sven
>
> "Not Me" <> wrote in message
> news:%23%...
>> The thing I haven't seen mentioned is that some malware will disable
>> sites like Microsoft.com and other sites (like online virus scanners).
>> They do this to make it harder to get the software needed to remove the
>> malware.
>> I don't know if this is your problem, but it is a possibility.
>> In some case's, the site is added to your 'restricted' zone in IE.
>> You might check that list and see if somehow your preferred urls somehow
>> were added to the restricted, instead of trusted, zone.
>> --
>> A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
>>
>> Change Alpha to Numeric to reply
>> "Sven Pran" <> wrote in message
>> news:eUzoo3%...
>>> My LAN is connected to Internet (ADSL) through a DLink DI-804
>>> router which has been serving me well during many years now.
>>>
>>> Recently I added a new Vista (Home Premium) machine to my
>>> LAN; From before I have one XP, one 98SE and one 98 machine.
>>>
>>> My Vista can connect to some of my preferred nodes, but for
>>> instance www.microsoft.com is unreachable. One consequence
>>> is that Windows Defender claims that it is out of date and I am
>>> completely unable tu update its signatures.
>>>
>>> There are no obvious anomalities in status reports from the router
>>> or in responses to ipconfig commands.
>>>
>>> I have tried all kinds of recovery, flushing the DNS cache,
>>> restarting the router and so on, but in a post somewhere
>>> i found a note that Vista has implemented a new IP-stack
>>> which my router might not be serving correctly?
>>>
>>> 1: Is this a reality?
>>>
>>> 2: Is there any way I specifically can test my router for this
>>> problem?
>>>
>>> I shall be most grateful for any information.
>>>
>>> regards Sven
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"Sven Pran" <> wrote in message
news:eUzoo3%...
> My LAN is connected to Internet (ADSL) through a DLink DI-804
> router which has been serving me well during many years now.
>
> Recently I added a new Vista (Home Premium) machine to my
> LAN; From before I have one XP, one 98SE and one 98 machine.
>
> My Vista can connect to some of my preferred nodes, but for
> instance www.microsoft.com is unreachable. One consequence
> is that Windows Defender claims that it is out of date and I am
> completely unable tu update its signatures.
>
> There are no obvious anomalities in status reports from the router
> or in responses to ipconfig commands.
>
> I have tried all kinds of recovery, flushing the DNS cache,
> restarting the router and so on, but in a post somewhere
> i found a note that Vista has implemented a new IP-stack
> which my router might not be serving correctly?
>
> 1: Is this a reality?
>
> 2: Is there any way I specifically can test my router for this
> problem?
>
> I shall be most grateful for any information.
>

Well, if you connect the Vista machine directly to the modem and everything
works and it doesn't work when the machine is behind the router, then the
router is the issue and doesn't work with Vista.

"Not Me" <> wrote in message
news:...
> did you try turning off IPV6?
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929852/en-us

Yes, by unchecking IPV6 in the Control panel internet settings.
I did not try to modify the registry due to ignorance of KB929852

Fully competent to work in the registry I will try this as well

thanks and regards
Sven

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