How do I do 64bit guest operating systems?

Hi all

I have used Microsoft Virtual PC 2004, 2007 and lately 2007SP1 for lots of
virtual PC's in my time.

Now, the time has come, where I need to start finding out how I can install
a 64bit guest operating system, since I need to test the beta version of
SharePoint 2010.

Now, I have two laptops: One that is running Windows7 64bit and one that is
running Windows XP 32bit - both laptops have 64bit CPUs. I am assuming that
getting any 64bit OS to run as guest OS on a 32bit host OS is not going to
happen. Am I right?

So what are my options? What can I do on my Windows 7? VPC 2007SP1, as I
have seen it is only for 32bit guest OS'es, right? So what do I need to use
on Windows 7 in order to do it?

And what are my options for my XP laptop? I don't think Win7 is supported
for this laptop, so maybe XP 64bit - will that work with some software like
VPC?

Any hints, thoughts and comments are welcome.

Thanks!

--
Jan Eliasen, representing himself and not the company he works for.

Virtual PC (any version) does not support running 64-bit guests, they just
can't work. Hyper-V is the only Microsoft product that supports 64-bit, but
it's a server OS.

You'll have to move to another virtualization solution if you want to run
64-bit guests. (like VMWare Workstation or player, virtual Box, and maybe
parallels.)

--
Bob Comer




Jan Eliasen wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I have used Microsoft Virtual PC 2004, 2007 and lately 2007SP1 for lots of
> virtual PC's in my time.
>
> Now, the time has come, where I need to start finding out how I can install
> a 64bit guest operating system, since I need to test the beta version of
> SharePoint 2010.
>
> Now, I have two laptops: One that is running Windows7 64bit and one that is
> running Windows XP 32bit - both laptops have 64bit CPUs. I am assuming that
> getting any 64bit OS to run as guest OS on a 32bit host OS is not going to
> happen. Am I right?
>
> So what are my options? What can I do on my Windows 7? VPC 2007SP1, as I
> have seen it is only for 32bit guest OS'es, right? So what do I need to use
> on Windows 7 in order to do it?
>
> And what are my options for my XP laptop? I don't think Win7 is supported
> for this laptop, so maybe XP 64bit - will that work with some software like
> VPC?
>
> Any hints, thoughts and comments are welcome.
>
> Thanks!
>

On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:52:02 -0800, Jan Eliasen
<> wrote:

>Hi all
>
>I have used Microsoft Virtual PC 2004, 2007 and lately 2007SP1 for lots of
>virtual PC's in my time.
>
>Now, the time has come, where I need to start finding out how I can install
>a 64bit guest operating system, since I need to test the beta version of
>SharePoint 2010.
>
>Now, I have two laptops: One that is running Windows7 64bit and one that is
>running Windows XP 32bit - both laptops have 64bit CPUs. I am assuming that
>getting any 64bit OS to run as guest OS on a 32bit host OS is not going to
>happen. Am I right?
>
>So what are my options? What can I do on my Windows 7? VPC 2007SP1, as I
>have seen it is only for 32bit guest OS'es, right? So what do I need to use
>on Windows 7 in order to do it?
>
>And what are my options for my XP laptop? I don't think Win7 is supported
>for this laptop, so maybe XP 64bit - will that work with some software like
>VPC?
>
>Any hints, thoughts and comments are welcome.

VMWare Workstation 7 and Player 3 both can handle 64 bit guest
operating systems.
As far as I know, as long as your CPU has VT available and enabled you
can even run a 64 bit guest on your 32 bit Windows laptop.
Player is free and Workstation is not.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

"Jan Eliasen" wrote:

> So what are my options? What can I do on my Windows 7? VPC 2007SP1, as I
> have seen it is only for 32bit guest OS'es, right? So what do I need to use
> on Windows 7 in order to do it?
>
> And what are my options for my XP laptop? I don't think Win7 is supported
> for this laptop, so maybe XP 64bit - will that work with some software like
> VPC?
Hi Robert and Bo

Thanks for your answers! I am sad to hear that I am going to have to go away
from VPC - I find it weird that Microsoft does not support this. But, that is
just the way it is, I guess..

I actually have a license to VMware Workstation 6.5 through my job - will
that work for 64bit guests, or do I need version 7?

Thanks.
--
Jan Eliasen, representing himself and not the company he works for.

Jan Eliasen wrote:

> VMware Workstation 6.5
> will that work for 64bit guests, or do I need version 7?

Documentation for v7 and v6.5 can be found at:
http://www.vmware.com/support/pubs/ws_pubs.html

> I actually have a license to VMware Workstation 6.5 through my job - will
> that work for 64bit guests, or do I need version 7?

If your hardware supports it, 6.5 will work for 64-bit. V7 adds some Windows
7 video support.

--
Bob Comer




Jan Eliasen wrote:
> "Jan Eliasen" wrote:
>
>> So what are my options? What can I do on my Windows 7? VPC 2007SP1, as I
>> have seen it is only for 32bit guest OS'es, right? So what do I need to use
>> on Windows 7 in order to do it?
>>
>> And what are my options for my XP laptop? I don't think Win7 is supported
>> for this laptop, so maybe XP 64bit - will that work with some software like
>> VPC?
> Hi Robert and Bo
>
> Thanks for your answers! I am sad to hear that I am going to have to go away
> from VPC - I find it weird that Microsoft does not support this. But, that is
> just the way it is, I guess..
>
> I actually have a license to VMware Workstation 6.5 through my job - will
> that work for 64bit guests, or do I need version 7?
>
> Thanks.

Bo Berglund wrote:
> VMWare Workstation 7 and Player 3 both can handle 64 bit guest
> operating systems.
> As far as I know, as long as your CPU has VT available and enabled you
> can even run a 64 bit guest on your 32 bit Windows laptop.
> Player is free and Workstation is not.

At least with Workstation 6, you do not need hardware virtualization to run
64-bit guests under a 32-bit host. You just need a 64-bit processor.

--
David Wilkinson
Visual C++ MVP

You sure about that, I thought it always required VT?

--
Bob Comer




David Wilkinson wrote:
> Bo Berglund wrote:
>> VMWare Workstation 7 and Player 3 both can handle 64 bit guest
>> operating systems.
>> As far as I know, as long as your CPU has VT available and enabled you
>> can even run a 64 bit guest on your 32 bit Windows laptop.
>> Player is free and Workstation is not.
>
> At least with Workstation 6, you do not need hardware virtualization to
> run 64-bit guests under a 32-bit host. You just need a 64-bit processor.
>

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:18:18 -0500, David Wilkinson
<no-> wrote:

>Bo Berglund wrote:
>> VMWare Workstation 7 and Player 3 both can handle 64 bit guest
>> operating systems.
>> As far as I know, as long as your CPU has VT available and enabled you
>> can even run a 64 bit guest on your 32 bit Windows laptop.
>> Player is free and Workstation is not.
>
>At least with Workstation 6, you do not need hardware virtualization to run
>64-bit guests under a 32-bit host. You just need a 64-bit processor.

No, I have a Pentium D DELL Dimension 9100 and it does not have a VT
option. When I tried installing a 64 bit guest Workstation protested
and said that it needed VT to be able to do that.
That is why I answered like I did, personal experience.
Maybe it works better with a later CPU running XP-Pro 32 bit like I
do?

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:45:01 +0100, Bo Berglund
<> wrote:

>No, I have a Pentium D DELL Dimension 9100 and it does not have a VT
>option. When I tried installing a 64 bit guest Workstation protested
>and said that it needed VT to be able to do that.
>That is why I answered like I did, personal experience.
>Maybe it works better with a later CPU running XP-Pro 32 bit like I
>do?
How do I check if my processor has VT (Is this an acronym for
Visualization Technology?)

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