what to do with then

when going through add and remove there is a whole load of updates there some
are dated backe as far as june 2006 is it nesiceary to keep all these up
dates or is it safe to remove some of them
--
maggymay

Folders that have uninstall as part of the name (for example $NtUninstallKB282010$
which reside in C:\windows (hidden folders) are Window Hot Fix Update folders/files)
can be safely deleted (providing you never wish to uninstall the updates). I would
recommend leaving these folders for a period of at least a month to make sure the
update is working correctly.

These updates can be deleted individually or in multiples. To find out more about the
update/s go to:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=XXXXXX
NB: XXXXXX = the actual number not including the "Q" or "KB"

Once you have deleted the uninstall folders/files, then go to Control Panel,
Add/Remove Programs. Select the matching Windows Hotfix Title relating the update
folder/file you have just deleted and select remove. You will get a Windows error.
This is because you have deleted the uninstall folder/files. Just choose OK and the
entry will be deleted from the Add/Remove Programs Listing.


--

==================================
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==================================
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"maggymay" <> wrote in message
news:6A2BC101-C42F-43BB-9527-...
| when going through add and remove there is a whole load of updates there some
| are dated backe as far as june 2006 is it nesiceary to keep all these up
| dates or is it safe to remove some of them
| --
| maggymay

maggymay wrote:
> when going through add and remove there is a whole load of updates
> there some are dated backe as far as june 2006 is it nesiceary to
> keep all these up dates or is it safe to remove some of them

There are over 70 Windows XP updates (not to mention Microsoft Office
updates) since SP2 was released in 2004. If you have SP2 and all the
subsequent updates - you should keep them all. You should not go removing
any. You wouldn't gain much of anything.

Most of the time when people are looking through this list - they are trying
to free up space or speed up their computer. Although uninstalling some
things may help do this - seldom will uninstalling an update do it unless
that update is causing a conflict on your system and usually that is noticed
immediately after installing said update.

Why do you wish to uninstall the updates?
You can cleanup the uninstall files safely - as you should never remove them
anyway.

If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed..

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm


Do you have hidden and system files visible?
How's your system restore settings?
Used Disk Cleanup?
Is hibernate turned on and do you use that feature?
Uninstalled unnecessary applications lately?
Moved things to external media?

Other ways to free up space..

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

DX Hog Hunt
http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.

You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but yuor
latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
"System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest 5% or
higher.
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.

You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...

Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 128MB and 512MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 128MB and 512MB. (Betting it is MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.

If you need more space - buy a new drive...

For between $40 and $150 you can get
120-320GB...

For Pricing/Opinions/Reviews on various products:
- http://www.pricewatch.com/
- http://www.dealsites.net/
- http://www.resellerratings.com/
- http://www.epinions.com/

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

so if i go to c:\windows and find updates that say hot fix i can delete them
--
mar


"TaurArian [MS-MVP]" wrote:

> Folders that have uninstall as part of the name (for example $NtUninstallKB282010$
> which reside in C:\windows (hidden folders) are Window Hot Fix Update folders/files)
> can be safely deleted (providing you never wish to uninstall the updates). I would
> recommend leaving these folders for a period of at least a month to make sure the
> update is working correctly.
>
> These updates can be deleted individually or in multiples. To find out more about the
> update/s go to:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=XXXXXX
> NB: XXXXXX = the actual number not including the "Q" or "KB"
>
> Once you have deleted the uninstall folders/files, then go to Control Panel,
> Add/Remove Programs. Select the matching Windows Hotfix Title relating the update
> folder/file you have just deleted and select remove. You will get a Windows error.
> This is because you have deleted the uninstall folder/files. Just choose OK and the
> entry will be deleted from the Add/Remove Programs Listing.
>
>
> --
>
> ==================================
> TaurArian [MS-MVP] 2005-2007 - Australia
> ==================================
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> Need more help? http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=ph;en-us;6527
> Get Safe online: http://www.getsafeonline.org/
> (Links to web pages and MSKB Articles are posted for the purposes of keeping the
> information current)
>
>
> "maggymay" <> wrote in message
> news:6A2BC101-C42F-43BB-9527-...
> | when going through add and remove there is a whole load of updates there some
> | are dated backe as far as june 2006 is it nesiceary to keep all these up
> | dates or is it safe to remove some of them
> | --
> | maggymay
>
>
>

well if theres nothing much to gain from removing updates then i will stick
to disk clean up, i run this once a week and then i defrag, may be this i the
best way to go as i am not all that thechnical and dont want to go dabbling
in something i am not really sure about thanks lads for yer advice
--
mar


"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> maggymay wrote:
> > when going through add and remove there is a whole load of updates
> > there some are dated backe as far as june 2006 is it nesiceary to
> > keep all these up dates or is it safe to remove some of them
>
> There are over 70 Windows XP updates (not to mention Microsoft Office
> updates) since SP2 was released in 2004. If you have SP2 and all the
> subsequent updates - you should keep them all. You should not go removing
> any. You wouldn't gain much of anything.
>
> Most of the time when people are looking through this list - they are trying
> to free up space or speed up their computer. Although uninstalling some
> things may help do this - seldom will uninstalling an update do it unless
> that update is causing a conflict on your system and usually that is noticed
> immediately after installing said update.
>
> Why do you wish to uninstall the updates?
> You can cleanup the uninstall files safely - as you should never remove them
> anyway.
>
> If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
> uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed..
>
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
>
>
> Do you have hidden and system files visible?
> How's your system restore settings?
> Used Disk Cleanup?
> Is hibernate turned on and do you use that feature?
> Uninstalled unnecessary applications lately?
> Moved things to external media?
>
> Other ways to free up space..
>
> SequoiaView
> http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/
>
> DX Hog Hunt
> http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx
>
> JDiskReport
> http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html
>
> Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.
>
> You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
> temporary files and use that to get rid of those:
>
> Ccleaner (Free!)
> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>
> You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but yuor
> latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..
>
> How to use Disk Cleanup
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312
>
> You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..
>
> When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
> memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
> file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
> don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
> uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:
>
> - Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
> Control Panel, and click Power Options).
> - Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
> click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
> "System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
> hiberfil.sys file.
> - Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
> tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.
>
> You can control how much space your System Restore can use...
>
> 1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
> 2. Click the System Restore tab.
> 3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
> the "Settings" button.
> 4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest 5% or
> higher.
> 5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.
>
> You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...
>
> Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
> size between 128MB and 512MB..
>
> - Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
> - Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
> - Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
> following:
> - Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
> - Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
> something between 128MB and 512MB. (Betting it is MUCH larger right
> now.)
> - Click OK.
> - Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
> (the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
> minutes or more.)
> - Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
> Explorer.
>
> If you need more space - buy a new drive...
>
> For between $40 and $150 you can get
> 120-320GB...
>
> For Pricing/Opinions/Reviews on various products:
> - http://www.pricewatch.com/
> - http://www.dealsites.net/
> - http://www.resellerratings.com/
> - http://www.epinions.com/
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

maggymay wrote:
> when going through add and remove there is a whole load of updates
> there some are dated backe as far as june 2006 is it nesiceary to
> keep all these up dates or is it safe to remove some of them

TaurArian [MS-MVP] wrote:
> Folders that have uninstall as part of the name (for example
> $NtUninstallKB282010$ which reside in C:\windows (hidden folders)
> are Window Hot Fix Update folders/files) can be safely deleted
> (providing you never wish to uninstall the updates). I would
> recommend leaving these folders for a period of at least a month
> to make sure the update is working correctly.
>
> These updates can be deleted individually or in multiples. To find
> out more about the update/s go to:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=XXXXXX
> NB: XXXXXX = the actual number not including the "Q" or "KB"
>
> Once you have deleted the uninstall folders/files, then go to
> Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs. Select the matching Windows
> Hotfix Title relating the update folder/file you have just deleted
> and select remove. You will get a Windows error. This is because
> you have deleted the uninstall folder/files. Just choose OK and
> the entry will be deleted from the Add/Remove Programs Listing.

mar wrote:
> so if i go to c:\windows and find updates that say hot fix i can
> delete them

If you *feel the need to*, you can safely delete some of the update folders
under the %SystemRoot%\Windows directory, yes...

For more information:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

However - if you think you are actually gaining something out of it -
perhaps you should look into a larger hard drive...
For between $40 and $150 you can get 120-320GB...

For Pricing/Opinions/Reviews on various products:
- http://www.pricewatch.com/
- http://www.dealsites.net/
- http://www.resellerratings.com/
- http://www.epinions.com/

If you are still trying to "squeeze" blood out of the turnip you call your
hard disk drive...

Do you have hidden and system files visible?
How's your system restore settings?
Used Disk Cleanup?
Is hibernate turned on and do you use that feature?
Uninstalled unnecessary applications lately?
Moved things to external media?

Other ways to free up space..

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

DX Hog Hunt
http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.

You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but yuor
latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
"System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest 5% or
higher.
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.

You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...

Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 128MB and 512MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 128MB and 512MB. (Betting it is MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html