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Russ \(SBITS.Biz\)
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Stuart:
In order to get your SBS running Correctly it's really simple. There are Three Rules with SBS... (And these are Rules! not Guidelines) 1. Use the Wizards 2. Use the Wizards 3. Use the Wizards.. Users Are Configured with Wizards Network is Configured with Wizards Fax management is Configured with Wizards Backup is Configured with Wizards IP change is Configured with Wizards PC/Server Connections are Configured with Wizards Exchange Mailboxes are Configured with Wizards user Password Policies are configured with Wizards. There's more but I'm getting tired of typing. Not using the wizards you will BREAK SBS and a lot of it's Features. It sounds like you will be better off to FLATEN and start over. YES I said that! Typically you should do this 3 times to get the Feel Of the SBS Server and it's Wizards. SBS is NOT I repeat NOT Windows Server 2003 With Exchange, Sharepoint, WSUS, Fax Sharing Thrown on it. It is MORE than the Sum of it's parts, and Disrespecting this fact will give you problems. This is not your fathers Oldsmobile. Please Read this About the Top Ten Gotchas of SBS. http://www.sbits.biz/top10gotchas.htm In addition this document. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en It will save you from a lot of errors. And Don't forget to use the Wizards. Russ -- Russell Grover Microsoft Gold Certified Partner Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) http://www.SBITS.Biz Server Monitoring for $4.99 - Free trial http://monitoring.sbsowl.com "stuart macleod" <> wrote in message news:A562F2FC-8C23-4C20-9F93-... >I have installed sbs2003 and all looks well, apart form any of the wizards >in > the to do not not function they are coming up with errors > for instance when i click on configure fax a box appears faxcfg.exe > a[[lication error > and this is the same for every wizard in there > > i have added users via ad and it works fine but obviously i would like to > get this sorted |
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Russ \(SBITS.Biz\)
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If you don't want to go to my link here is the Basics
Top 10 Gotchas The domain can have only one machine running Windows SBS Windows SBS 2003 Setup places the machine running Windows SBS at the root of an Active Directory forest. The end result is that there can be one and only one server running Windows SBS in a Windows SBS domain. Many Enterprise IT Pros have stumbled right here, thinking that Windows SBS is like Windows Server, Standard or Enterprise Editions, on this point. They assume that they can install Windows SBS 2003 on a server and then drop that server on to an existing Windows Server domain as another replica domain controller on the network with no issue. But they can't! The server running Windows SBS always sits at the root of the domain. This obviously means that you can have only one server running Windows SBS on a network. There can be only one machine running Windows SBS in a domain! Also, the Windows SBS computer must be the root of the forest so you can't add another Windows Server machine to a Windows SBS network as the primary domain controller. (You can add extra machines running Windows Server to a Windows SBS domain as replica domain controllers, line-of-business (LOB) application servers, or servers that have Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server enabled.) You can't establish trusts with other domains Another surprise for the Enterprise IT Pro who is familiar with Windows Server only in the enterprise space is that Windows SBS domains cannot establish trusts with any other domains-period. No if-ands-or-buts about it; a Windows SBS domain stands alone. You can't establish a trust between a Windows SBS domain and a Windows Server domain, and you can't establish trusts between Windows SBS domains. Note The End-User License Agreement (EULA) for Windows SBS specifically prohibits "hacking" the system in order to work around the "no trusts" rule. So not only is Windows SBS configured to not allow trusts, but you also break your licensing agreement if you try! Some Enterprise IT Pros have recommended Windows SBS for a small business under the mistaken notion that they could tie the Windows SBS domain into another Windows Server domain using trusts, only to find out they couldn't-after they purchased Windows SBS and installed it at the small business! You can't create child domains Following on the second gotcha, you need to know that Windows SBS does not allow child domains. That is, you can't create a child domain (or sub-domain) beneath the initial Windows SBS domain that you create during Setup. Unlike Windows Server 2003, Standard, Enterprise, or Datacenter Editions, Windows SBS doesn't allow you to further subdivide your domain namespace hierarchically by creating child domains. For example, if the small business you're assisting is the Contoso company, and the root domain name is contoso.local (".local" is the default domain root suggested by Windows SBS Setup for the internal domain), you can't add child domains accounting.contoso.local or payroll.accounting.contoso.local. This makes sense when you consider that a typical small business employs a small number of staff and operates out of a single location. The small size of the average small business just doesn't call for the division of the namespace into child domains. Only 75 users, computers, or devices can connect to the server at one time In contrast to Windows Server, where users connecting to the server can number into the thousands, Windows SBS 2003 handles the upper end of the average small business-75 users or devices (including computers) at the most. This is the fourth gotcha for Enterprise IT Pros! Because you're probably used to working with Windows Server, Enterprise Edition, or even with Windows Server, Datacenter Edition, in which thousands of users and devices are common, you should keep this limit in mind when you're helping a small business decide whether to install Windows SBS 2003 on their network. A business that has more than 75 users or devices should consider other editions of Windows Server 2003. Finish installing Windows SBS before you customize it You can think of a Windows SBS installation as happening in two phases: the first phase is the installation of the operating system that drives Windows SBS, and the second phase is the installation of the Windows SBS application. When the first phase is finished, you have an operating system; when the second phase is finished, you have all of Windows SBS 2003. A full installation isn't finished until both phases are finished. There is a point during installation when the operating system has been installed and the user is returned to the desktop. Some Enterprise IT Pros have been tempted to pause here and tweak the operating system before they install the rest of Windows SBS. But a word of caution: don't do it! The second phase of the installation does a great deal of configuration of the underlying operating system. Setup prompts the administrator to make configuration decisions for areas like Internet connectivity, DHCP, and DNS. The end result is that if you did tweak the operating system between phases, the changes that you made after Phase 1 might be overwritten during Phase 2, and those changes that weren't overwritten might cause problems for the rest of the installation. Now having said that, let me add that it is a good practice to take a quick look at Device Manager once the first phase is finished. You should check Device Manager to ensure that the operating system correctly recognized your server hardware. If it didn't, this is the time to get the right drivers installed-before you press on to Phase 2. Aside from that one exception, don't try to customize between phases. Finish the entire installation, and make the appropriate configuration changes only when Setup prompts you to do so. Use the Windows SBS wizards, not MMC snap-ins Probably the biggest misstep for Enterprise IT Pros who know Windows Server only in an enterprise network happens right here: Windows SBS wizards vs. Microsoft Management Console (MMC) snap-ins. Enterprise IT Pros often, mistakenly, jump to the familiar MMC snap-ins instead of using the Server Management console wizards. A good rule of thumb here is this: if the Windows SBS Server Management console provides a wizard, use it! Windows SBS is filled with handy wizards that take the place of the MMC snap-ins that most Enterprise IT Pros use to modify or manage their servers. Many common management tasks, like adding a new user-something you might usually do with the Active Directory Users and Computers snap-in-shouldn't be done with an MMC snap-in. In Windows SBS, you really should use the wizards provided in the Server Management console. Here's why: the Windows SBS wizards do customizations behind the scenes that make the product work best for a typical small-business environment. And, as I mentioned earlier, some Windows SBS wizards perform several tasks at once, so that changes you make in one place cause changes behind the scenes in other places. For example, the Add User Wizard creates a user account in Active Directory, creates a mailbox for the user in Exchange, and sets access permissions for the user on the company intranet, to name just a few! The MMC snap-ins aren't all connected that way, and they haven't been customized for small-business use, so if you use the snap-ins instead of the wizards, you might actually break some Windows SBS functionality. In Windows SBS, Enterprise IT Pros should let the wizards do the magic! Windows SBS client-access licenses are all that client computers need to access Windows SBS In a way, licensing is fairly simple with Windows SBS. Instead of having to purchase separate client-access licenses (CALs) for each server application running on the Windows SBS machine-for example, one for Windows Server 2003, one for Exchange 2003, and one for SQL ServerT 2000-Windows SBS requires only one CAL per user or device. With this one CAL, the user or device can access the services provided by the server applications that Windows SBS includes. You should take special note that the CALs for Windows SBS are not the same as the CALs for Windows Server or for Exchange. You can't add a standard Windows Server CAL to Windows SBS; Windows SBS requires Windows SBS CALs. Also, if you add a computer running Windows Server as a member server in a Windows SBS domain, you don't need any extra licenses for the client computers to access the member server; the Windows SBS CAL covers that, too! But be advised: if you have a member server running applications that require their own licenses-for example, Terminal Server, or a line-of-business application with a SQL Server backend-then you might need to buy additional licenses for those applications. Check the licensing requirements for the application. And a final tip: SBS CALs are sold in increments of 5 or 20, so keep that in mind if you're advising a small business about the cost of licensing for a Windows SBS network. Terminal Server runs only in Remote Administration mode Windows SBS includes Terminal Server, but you can run it only in Remote Administration mode. As you no doubt recall, Terminal Server can run in either of two modes: Application Server mode, and Remote Administration mode. On a server running Windows SBS, Terminal Server runs only in Remote Administration mode. This is one of the big gotchas! If you want to make Terminal Server in Application Server mode available in a Windows SBS network, you have to add an additional server to the network running Windows Server and Terminal Server in Application Server mode. Because this isn't hard to do (as you'll see in the later section, "Set Up Server Computer Wizard"), it's a quick task for the administrator. Just be aware that client computers connecting to Terminal Server on the additional server need Terminal Server CALs in addition to the Windows SBS CALs. Bottom line? Windows SBS provides Terminal Server only in Remote Administration mode, so you can't provide Terminal Server in Application Server mode for network users. But if you want to provide Terminal Server in Application Server mode for a Windows SBS network, you can easily do this if you add an additional server running Windows Server and you configure it to provide Terminal Server for your users. Leave the default Active Directory structure as is Windows SBS provides a default installation experience that doesn't require a lot of work by the administrator. And when you do need to make changes to your server, Windows SBS provides easy wizards for most tasks. This holds true for the default Active Directory structure. For example: by default, when users are added to the Windows SBS network using the Add User Wizard, user objects are placed in the ServerName.local.MyBusiness.Users.SBSUsers organizational unit (OU) in Active Directory (where ServerName is the name of the server running Windows SBS). Other functions in Windows SBS expect to find the network users in that OU. Moving users out of the OU or renaming the OU might cause these other functions to fail. The crucial point here is that you should leave the default Active Directory structure as is, or else proceed with extreme caution. Know the Windows SBS hardware maximums While it's true in general that the stronger the hardware, the better the performance of the operating system, you should know just how much you can upgrade the hardware that runs Windows SBS. Take a look at the following table, which compares the hardware maximums of Windows SBS 2003 to those of other Windows Server editions. Keep this table in mind when you're thinking about what hardware to buy to run Windows SBS 2003. The hardware maximums are different than those of other Windows Server operating systems, especially Enterprise and Datacenter Editions: Table 1 Comparison of Windows Server hardware maximums Server Product Maximum Amount of Memory Maximum Number of Physical Processors Platforms Windows Small Business Server 2003 4 gigabytes (GB) 2 x86 Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition 4 GB 4 x86 Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition 32 GB with x86 64 GB with x64 8 x86 x64 Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition 512 GB 32, 64, or 128 x64 And while we're on the topic of hardware, a good practice is to connect all of the hardware on the server before running Windows SBS Setup, because Setup makes some configuration choices depending on what's installed. -- Russell Grover Microsoft Gold Certified Partner Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) http://www.SBITS.Biz Server Monitoring for $4.99 - Free trial http://monitoring.sbsowl.com "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <> wrote in message news:%... > Stuart: > > In order to get your SBS running Correctly it's really simple. > > There are Three Rules with SBS... > (And these are Rules! not Guidelines) > > 1. Use the Wizards > 2. Use the Wizards > 3. Use the Wizards.. > > Users Are Configured with Wizards > Network is Configured with Wizards > Fax management is Configured with Wizards > Backup is Configured with Wizards > IP change is Configured with Wizards > PC/Server Connections are Configured with Wizards > Exchange Mailboxes are Configured with Wizards > user Password Policies are configured with Wizards. > There's more but I'm getting tired of typing. > > Not using the wizards you will BREAK SBS > and a lot of it's Features. > > It sounds like you will be better off to FLATEN > and start over. YES I said that! > > Typically you should do this 3 times to get the Feel Of the SBS Server and > it's Wizards. > > SBS is NOT I repeat NOT > Windows Server 2003 With Exchange, Sharepoint, WSUS, Fax Sharing Thrown on > it. > It is MORE than the Sum of it's parts, and Disrespecting this fact will > give > you problems. > > This is not your fathers Oldsmobile. > > Please Read this About the Top Ten Gotchas of SBS. > http://www.sbits.biz/top10gotchas.htm > > In addition this document. > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en > > > It will save you from a lot of errors. > > And Don't forget to use the Wizards. > > Russ > > -- > > Russell Grover > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > http://www.SBITS.Biz > Server Monitoring for $4.99 - Free trial > http://monitoring.sbsowl.com > > > > "stuart macleod" <> wrote in > message > news:A562F2FC-8C23-4C20-9F93-... >>I have installed sbs2003 and all looks well, apart form any of the wizards >>in >> the to do not not function they are coming up with errors >> for instance when i click on configure fax a box appears faxcfg.exe >> a[[lication error >> and this is the same for every wizard in there >> >> i have added users via ad and it works fine but obviously i would like to >> get this sorted > > |
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stuart macleod
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i have installed about 30 sbs2003 boxes and this has never happened previously
what about uninstalling a service pack do you think this may rectify this as its now on a clients site as it was working "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" wrote: > If you don't want to go to my link here is the Basics > Top 10 Gotchas > The domain can have only one machine running Windows SBS > Windows SBS 2003 Setup places the machine running Windows SBS at the root of > an Active Directory forest. The end result is that there can be one and only > one server running Windows SBS in a Windows SBS domain. > > Many Enterprise IT Pros have stumbled right here, thinking that Windows SBS > is like Windows Server, Standard or Enterprise Editions, on this point. They > assume that they can install Windows SBS 2003 on a server and then drop that > server on to an existing Windows Server domain as another replica domain > controller on the network with no issue. But they can't! The server running > Windows SBS always sits at the root of the domain. This obviously means that > you can have only one server running Windows SBS on a network. > > There can be only one machine running Windows SBS in a domain! Also, the > Windows SBS computer must be the root of the forest so you can't add another > Windows Server machine to a Windows SBS network as the primary domain > controller. (You can add extra machines running Windows Server to a Windows > SBS domain as replica domain controllers, line-of-business (LOB) application > servers, or servers that have Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server enabled.) > > You can't establish trusts with other domains > Another surprise for the Enterprise IT Pro who is familiar with Windows > Server only in the enterprise space is that Windows SBS domains cannot > establish trusts with any other domains-period. No if-ands-or-buts about it; > a Windows SBS domain stands alone. You can't establish a trust between a > Windows SBS domain and a Windows Server domain, and you can't establish > trusts between Windows SBS domains. > > Note > The End-User License Agreement (EULA) for Windows SBS specifically prohibits > "hacking" the system in order to work around the "no trusts" rule. So not > only is Windows SBS configured to not allow trusts, but you also break your > licensing agreement if you try! > > > > > > > > Some Enterprise IT Pros have recommended Windows SBS for a small business > under the mistaken notion that they could tie the Windows SBS domain into > another Windows Server domain using trusts, only to find out they couldn't-after > they purchased Windows SBS and installed it at the small business! > > You can't create child domains > Following on the second gotcha, you need to know that Windows SBS does not > allow child domains. That is, you can't create a child domain (or > sub-domain) beneath the initial Windows SBS domain that you create during > Setup. Unlike Windows Server 2003, Standard, Enterprise, or Datacenter > Editions, Windows SBS doesn't allow you to further subdivide your domain > namespace hierarchically by creating child domains. > > For example, if the small business you're assisting is the Contoso company, > and the root domain name is contoso.local (".local" is the default domain > root suggested by Windows SBS Setup for the internal domain), you can't add > child domains accounting.contoso.local or payroll.accounting.contoso.local. > This makes sense when you consider that a typical small business employs a > small number of staff and operates out of a single location. The small size > of the average small business just doesn't call for the division of the > namespace into child domains. > > Only 75 users, computers, or devices can connect to the server at one time > In contrast to Windows Server, where users connecting to the server can > number into the thousands, Windows SBS 2003 handles the upper end of the > average small business-75 users or devices (including computers) at the > most. This is the fourth gotcha for Enterprise IT Pros! > > Because you're probably used to working with Windows Server, Enterprise > Edition, or even with Windows Server, Datacenter Edition, in which thousands > of users and devices are common, you should keep this limit in mind when > you're helping a small business decide whether to install Windows SBS 2003 > on their network. A business that has more than 75 users or devices should > consider other editions of Windows Server 2003. > > Finish installing Windows SBS before you customize it > You can think of a Windows SBS installation as happening in two phases: the > first phase is the installation of the operating system that drives Windows > SBS, and the second phase is the installation of the Windows SBS > application. When the first phase is finished, you have an operating system; > when the second phase is finished, you have all of Windows SBS 2003. A full > installation isn't finished until both phases are finished. > > There is a point during installation when the operating system has been > installed and the user is returned to the desktop. Some Enterprise IT Pros > have been tempted to pause here and tweak the operating system before they > install the rest of Windows SBS. But a word of caution: don't do it! > > The second phase of the installation does a great deal of configuration of > the underlying operating system. Setup prompts the administrator to make > configuration decisions for areas like Internet connectivity, DHCP, and DNS. > The end result is that if you did tweak the operating system between phases, > the changes that you made after Phase 1 might be overwritten during Phase 2, > and those changes that weren't overwritten might cause problems for the rest > of the installation. > > Now having said that, let me add that it is a good practice to take a quick > look at Device Manager once the first phase is finished. You should check > Device Manager to ensure that the operating system correctly recognized your > server hardware. If it didn't, this is the time to get the right drivers > installed-before you press on to Phase 2. > > Aside from that one exception, don't try to customize between phases. Finish > the entire installation, and make the appropriate configuration changes only > when Setup prompts you to do so. > > Use the Windows SBS wizards, not MMC snap-ins > Probably the biggest misstep for Enterprise IT Pros who know Windows Server > only in an enterprise network happens right here: Windows SBS wizards vs. > Microsoft Management Console (MMC) snap-ins. Enterprise IT Pros often, > mistakenly, jump to the familiar MMC snap-ins instead of using the Server > Management console wizards. A good rule of thumb here is this: if the > Windows SBS Server Management console provides a wizard, use it! > > Windows SBS is filled with handy wizards that take the place of the MMC > snap-ins that most Enterprise IT Pros use to modify or manage their servers. > Many common management tasks, like adding a new user-something you might > usually do with the Active Directory Users and Computers snap-in-shouldn't > be done with an MMC snap-in. In Windows SBS, you really should use the > wizards provided in the Server Management console. > > Here's why: the Windows SBS wizards do customizations behind the scenes that > make the product work best for a typical small-business environment. And, as > I mentioned earlier, some Windows SBS wizards perform several tasks at once, > so that changes you make in one place cause changes behind the scenes in > other places. For example, the Add User Wizard creates a user account in > Active Directory, creates a mailbox for the user in Exchange, and sets > access permissions for the user on the company intranet, to name just a few! > The MMC snap-ins aren't all connected that way, and they haven't been > customized for small-business use, so if you use the snap-ins instead of the > wizards, you might actually break some Windows SBS functionality. In Windows > SBS, Enterprise IT Pros should let the wizards do the magic! > > Windows SBS client-access licenses are all that client computers need to > access Windows SBS > In a way, licensing is fairly simple with Windows SBS. Instead of having to > purchase separate client-access licenses (CALs) for each server application > running on the Windows SBS machine-for example, one for Windows Server 2003, > one for Exchange 2003, and one for SQL ServerT 2000-Windows SBS requires > only one CAL per user or device. With this one CAL, the user or device can > access the services provided by the server applications that Windows SBS > includes. You should take special note that the CALs for Windows SBS are not > the same as the CALs for Windows Server or for Exchange. You can't add a > standard Windows Server CAL to Windows SBS; Windows SBS requires Windows SBS > CALs. > > Also, if you add a computer running Windows Server as a member server in a > Windows SBS domain, you don't need any extra licenses for the client > computers to access the member server; the Windows SBS CAL covers that, too! > But be advised: if you have a member server running applications that > require their own licenses-for example, Terminal Server, or a > line-of-business application with a SQL Server backend-then you might need > to buy additional licenses for those applications. Check the licensing > requirements for the application. > > And a final tip: SBS CALs are sold in increments of 5 or 20, so keep that in > mind if you're advising a small business about the cost of licensing for a > Windows SBS network. > > Terminal Server runs only in Remote Administration mode > Windows SBS includes Terminal Server, but you can run it only in Remote > Administration mode. As you no doubt recall, Terminal Server can run in > either of two modes: Application Server mode, and Remote Administration > mode. On a server running Windows SBS, Terminal Server runs only in Remote > Administration mode. This is one of the big gotchas! > > If you want to make Terminal Server in Application Server mode available in > a Windows SBS network, you have to add an additional server to the network > running Windows Server and Terminal Server in Application Server mode. > Because this isn't hard to do (as you'll see in the later section, "Set Up > Server Computer Wizard"), it's a quick task for the administrator. Just be > aware that client computers connecting to Terminal Server on the additional > server need Terminal Server CALs in addition to the Windows SBS CALs. > > Bottom line? Windows SBS provides Terminal Server only in Remote > Administration mode, so you can't provide Terminal Server in Application > Server mode for network users. But if you want to provide Terminal Server in > Application Server mode for a Windows SBS network, you can easily do this if > you add an additional server running Windows Server and you configure it to > provide Terminal Server for your users. > > Leave the default Active Directory structure as is > Windows SBS provides a default installation experience that doesn't require > a lot of work by the administrator. And when you do need to make changes to > your server, Windows SBS provides easy wizards for most tasks. This holds > true for the default Active Directory structure. > > For example: by default, when users are added to the Windows SBS network > using the Add User Wizard, user objects are placed in the > ServerName.local.MyBusiness.Users.SBSUsers organizational unit (OU) in > Active Directory (where ServerName is the name of the server running Windows > SBS). Other functions in Windows SBS expect to find the network users in > that OU. Moving users out of the OU or renaming the OU might cause these > other functions to fail. > > The crucial point here is that you should leave the default Active Directory > structure as is, or else proceed with extreme caution. > > Know the Windows SBS hardware maximums > While it's true in general that the stronger the hardware, the better the > performance of the operating system, you should know just how much you can > upgrade the hardware that runs Windows SBS. > > Take a look at the following table, which compares the hardware maximums of > Windows SBS 2003 to those of other Windows Server editions. Keep this table > in mind when you're thinking about what hardware to buy to run Windows SBS > 2003. The hardware maximums are different than those of other Windows Server > operating systems, especially Enterprise and Datacenter Editions: > > Table 1 Comparison of Windows Server hardware maximums > > Server Product > Maximum Amount of Memory > Maximum Number of Physical Processors > Platforms > > Windows Small Business Server 2003 > 4 gigabytes (GB) > 2 > x86 > > Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition > 4 GB > 4 > x86 > > Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition > 32 GB with x86 > > 64 GB with x64 > 8 > x86 > > x64 > > Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition > 512 GB > 32, 64, or 128 > x64 > > > > > And while we're on the topic of hardware, a good practice is to connect all > of the hardware on the server before running Windows SBS Setup, because > Setup makes some configuration choices depending on what's installed. > > > > > > -- > > Russell Grover > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > http://www.SBITS.Biz > Server Monitoring for $4.99 - Free trial > http://monitoring.sbsowl.com > > > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <> wrote in message > news:%... > > Stuart: > > > > In order to get your SBS running Correctly it's really simple. > > > > There are Three Rules with SBS... > > (And these are Rules! not Guidelines) > > > > 1. Use the Wizards > > 2. Use the Wizards > > 3. Use the Wizards.. > > > > Users Are Configured with Wizards > > Network is Configured with Wizards > > Fax management is Configured with Wizards > > Backup is Configured with Wizards > > IP change is Configured with Wizards > > PC/Server Connections are Configured with Wizards > > Exchange Mailboxes are Configured with Wizards > > user Password Policies are configured with Wizards. > > There's more but I'm getting tired of typing. > > > > Not using the wizards you will BREAK SBS > > and a lot of it's Features. > > > > It sounds like you will be better off to FLATEN > > and start over. YES I said that! > > > > Typically you should do this 3 times to get the Feel Of the SBS Server and > > it's Wizards. > > > > SBS is NOT I repeat NOT > > Windows Server 2003 With Exchange, Sharepoint, WSUS, Fax Sharing Thrown on > > it. |
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I assume that they worked before you Deployed the server
other wise that would be very stupid. What service Pack did you install that you think broke it? You can try Uninstalling that SP and re installing it. OR You can try recovering from a backup from the point at which it was working. But if it you can't get it to work. Flatten the server and start from scratch.... Those wizards need to be used and working. Russ -- Russell Grover Microsoft Gold Certified Partner Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) http://www.SBITS.Biz Server Monitoring for $4.99 - Free trial http://monitoring.sbsowl.com "stuart macleod" <> wrote in message news:5F62AA58-4111-45D7-9A19-... >i have installed about 30 sbs2003 boxes and this has never happened >previously > what about uninstalling a service pack do you think this may rectify this > as > its now on a clients site as it was working > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" wrote: > >> If you don't want to go to my link here is the Basics >> Top 10 Gotchas >> The domain can have only one machine running Windows SBS >> Windows SBS 2003 Setup places the machine running Windows SBS at the root >> of >> an Active Directory forest. The end result is that there can be one and >> only >> one server running Windows SBS in a Windows SBS domain. >> >> Many Enterprise IT Pros have stumbled right here, thinking that Windows >> SBS >> is like Windows Server, Standard or Enterprise Editions, on this point. >> They >> assume that they can install Windows SBS 2003 on a server and then drop >> that >> server on to an existing Windows Server domain as another replica domain >> controller on the network with no issue. But they can't! The server >> running >> Windows SBS always sits at the root of the domain. This obviously means >> that >> you can have only one server running Windows SBS on a network. >> >> There can be only one machine running Windows SBS in a domain! Also, the >> Windows SBS computer must be the root of the forest so you can't add >> another >> Windows Server machine to a Windows SBS network as the primary domain >> controller. (You can add extra machines running Windows Server to a >> Windows >> SBS domain as replica domain controllers, line-of-business (LOB) >> application >> servers, or servers that have Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server >> enabled.) >> >> You can't establish trusts with other domains >> Another surprise for the Enterprise IT Pro who is familiar with Windows >> Server only in the enterprise space is that Windows SBS domains cannot >> establish trusts with any other domains-period. No if-ands-or-buts about >> it; >> a Windows SBS domain stands alone. You can't establish a trust between a >> Windows SBS domain and a Windows Server domain, and you can't establish >> trusts between Windows SBS domains. >> >> Note >> The End-User License Agreement (EULA) for Windows SBS specifically >> prohibits >> "hacking" the system in order to work around the "no trusts" rule. So not >> only is Windows SBS configured to not allow trusts, but you also break >> your >> licensing agreement if you try! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Some Enterprise IT Pros have recommended Windows SBS for a small business >> under the mistaken notion that they could tie the Windows SBS domain into >> another Windows Server domain using trusts, only to find out they >> couldn't-after >> they purchased Windows SBS and installed it at the small business! >> >> You can't create child domains >> Following on the second gotcha, you need to know that Windows SBS does >> not >> allow child domains. That is, you can't create a child domain (or >> sub-domain) beneath the initial Windows SBS domain that you create during >> Setup. Unlike Windows Server 2003, Standard, Enterprise, or Datacenter >> Editions, Windows SBS doesn't allow you to further subdivide your domain >> namespace hierarchically by creating child domains. >> >> For example, if the small business you're assisting is the Contoso >> company, >> and the root domain name is contoso.local (".local" is the default domain >> root suggested by Windows SBS Setup for the internal domain), you can't >> add >> child domains accounting.contoso.local or >> payroll.accounting.contoso.local. >> This makes sense when you consider that a typical small business employs >> a >> small number of staff and operates out of a single location. The small >> size >> of the average small business just doesn't call for the division of the >> namespace into child domains. >> >> Only 75 users, computers, or devices can connect to the server at one >> time >> In contrast to Windows Server, where users connecting to the server can >> number into the thousands, Windows SBS 2003 handles the upper end of the >> average small business-75 users or devices (including computers) at the >> most. This is the fourth gotcha for Enterprise IT Pros! >> >> Because you're probably used to working with Windows Server, Enterprise >> Edition, or even with Windows Server, Datacenter Edition, in which >> thousands >> of users and devices are common, you should keep this limit in mind when >> you're helping a small business decide whether to install Windows SBS >> 2003 >> on their network. A business that has more than 75 users or devices >> should >> consider other editions of Windows Server 2003. >> >> Finish installing Windows SBS before you customize it >> You can think of a Windows SBS installation as happening in two phases: >> the >> first phase is the installation of the operating system that drives >> Windows >> SBS, and the second phase is the installation of the Windows SBS >> application. When the first phase is finished, you have an operating >> system; >> when the second phase is finished, you have all of Windows SBS 2003. A >> full >> installation isn't finished until both phases are finished. >> >> There is a point during installation when the operating system has been >> installed and the user is returned to the desktop. Some Enterprise IT >> Pros >> have been tempted to pause here and tweak the operating system before >> they >> install the rest of Windows SBS. But a word of caution: don't do it! >> >> The second phase of the installation does a great deal of configuration >> of >> the underlying operating system. Setup prompts the administrator to make >> configuration decisions for areas like Internet connectivity, DHCP, and >> DNS. >> The end result is that if you did tweak the operating system between >> phases, >> the changes that you made after Phase 1 might be overwritten during Phase >> 2, >> and those changes that weren't overwritten might cause problems for the >> rest >> of the installation. >> >> Now having said that, let me add that it is a good practice to take a >> quick >> look at Device Manager once the first phase is finished. You should check >> Device Manager to ensure that the operating system correctly recognized >> your >> server hardware. If it didn't, this is the time to get the right drivers >> installed-before you press on to Phase 2. >> >> Aside from that one exception, don't try to customize between phases. >> Finish >> the entire installation, and make the appropriate configuration changes >> only >> when Setup prompts you to do so. >> >> Use the Windows SBS wizards, not MMC snap-ins >> Probably the biggest misstep for Enterprise IT Pros who know Windows >> Server >> only in an enterprise network happens right here: Windows SBS wizards vs. >> Microsoft Management Console (MMC) snap-ins. Enterprise IT Pros often, >> mistakenly, jump to the familiar MMC snap-ins instead of using the Server >> Management console wizards. A good rule of thumb here is this: if the >> Windows SBS Server Management console provides a wizard, use it! >> >> Windows SBS is filled with handy wizards that take the place of the MMC >> snap-ins that most Enterprise IT Pros use to modify or manage their >> servers. >> Many common management tasks, like adding a new user-something you might >> usually do with the Active Directory Users and Computers >> snap-in-shouldn't >> be done with an MMC snap-in. In Windows SBS, you really should use the >> wizards provided in the Server Management console. >> >> Here's why: the Windows SBS wizards do customizations behind the scenes >> that >> make the product work best for a typical small-business environment. And, >> as >> I mentioned earlier, some Windows SBS wizards perform several tasks at >> once, >> so that changes you make in one place cause changes behind the scenes in >> other places. For example, the Add User Wizard creates a user account in >> Active Directory, creates a mailbox for the user in Exchange, and sets >> access permissions for the user on the company intranet, to name just a >> few! >> The MMC snap-ins aren't all connected that way, and they haven't been >> customized for small-business use, so if you use the snap-ins instead of >> the >> wizards, you might actually break some Windows SBS functionality. In >> Windows >> SBS, Enterprise IT Pros should let the wizards do the magic! >> >> Windows SBS client-access licenses are all that client computers need to >> access Windows SBS >> In a way, licensing is fairly simple with Windows SBS. Instead of having >> to >> purchase separate client-access licenses (CALs) for each server >> application >> running on the Windows SBS machine-for example, one for Windows Server >> 2003, >> one for Exchange 2003, and one for SQL ServerT 2000-Windows SBS requires >> only one CAL per user or device. With this one CAL, the user or device >> can >> access the services provided by the server applications that Windows SBS >> includes. You should take special note that the CALs for Windows SBS are >> not >> the same as the CALs for Windows Server or for Exchange. You can't add a >> standard Windows Server CAL to Windows SBS; Windows SBS requires Windows >> SBS >> CALs. >> >> Also, if you add a computer running Windows Server as a member server in >> a >> Windows SBS domain, you don't need any extra licenses for the client >> computers to access the member server; the Windows SBS CAL covers that, >> too! >> But be advised: if you have a member server running applications that >> require their own licenses-for example, Terminal Server, or a >> line-of-business application with a SQL Server backend-then you might >> need >> to buy additional licenses for those applications. Check the licensing >> requirements for the application. >> >> And a final tip: SBS CALs are sold in increments of 5 or 20, so keep that >> in >> mind if you're advising a small business about the cost of licensing for >> a >> Windows SBS network. >> >> Terminal Server runs only in Remote Administration mode >> Windows SBS includes Terminal Server, but you can run it only in Remote >> Administration mode. As you no doubt recall, Terminal Server can run in >> either of two modes: Application Server mode, and Remote Administration >> mode. On a server running Windows SBS, Terminal Server runs only in >> Remote >> Administration mode. This is one of the big gotchas! >> >> If you want to make Terminal Server in Application Server mode available >> in >> a Windows SBS network, you have to add an additional server to the >> network >> running Windows Server and Terminal Server in Application Server mode. >> Because this isn't hard to do (as you'll see in the later section, "Set >> Up >> Server Computer Wizard"), it's a quick task for the administrator. Just >> be >> aware that client computers connecting to Terminal Server on the >> additional >> server need Terminal Server CALs in addition to the Windows SBS CALs. >> >> Bottom line? Windows SBS provides Terminal Server only in Remote >> Administration mode, so you can't provide Terminal Server in Application >> Server mode for network users. But if you want to provide Terminal Server >> in >> Application Server mode for a Windows SBS network, you can easily do this >> if >> you add an additional server running Windows Server and you configure it >> to >> provide Terminal Server for your users. >> >> Leave the default Active Directory structure as is >> Windows SBS provides a default installation experience that doesn't >> require >> a lot of work by the administrator. And when you do need to make changes >> to >> your server, Windows SBS provides easy wizards for most tasks. This holds >> true for the default Active Directory structure. >> >> For example: by default, when users are added to the Windows SBS network >> using the Add User Wizard, user objects are placed in the >> ServerName.local.MyBusiness.Users.SBSUsers organizational unit (OU) in >> Active Directory (where ServerName is the name of the server running >> Windows >> SBS). Other functions in Windows SBS expect to find the network users in >> that OU. Moving users out of the OU or renaming the OU might cause these >> other functions to fail. >> >> The crucial point here is that you should leave the default Active >> Directory >> structure as is, or else proceed with extreme caution. >> >> Know the Windows SBS hardware maximums >> While it's true in general that the stronger the hardware, the better the >> performance of the operating system, you should know just how much you >> can >> upgrade the hardware that runs Windows SBS. >> >> Take a look at the following table, which compares the hardware maximums >> of >> Windows SBS 2003 to those of other Windows Server editions. Keep this >> table >> in mind when you're thinking about what hardware to buy to run Windows >> SBS >> 2003. The hardware maximums are different than those of other Windows >> Server >> operating systems, especially Enterprise and Datacenter Editions: >> >> Table 1 Comparison of Windows Server hardware maximums >> >> Server Product >> Maximum Amount of Memory >> Maximum Number of Physical Processors >> Platforms >> >> Windows Small Business Server 2003 >> 4 gigabytes (GB) >> 2 >> x86 >> >> Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition >> 4 GB >> 4 >> x86 >> >> Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition >> 32 GB with x86 >> >> 64 GB with x64 >> 8 >> x86 >> >> x64 >> >> Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition >> 512 GB >> 32, 64, or 128 >> x64 >> >> >> >> >> And while we're on the topic of hardware, a good practice is to connect >> all >> of the hardware on the server before running Windows SBS Setup, because >> Setup makes some configuration choices depending on what's installed. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Russell Grover >> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner >> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. >> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) >> http://www.SBITS.Biz >> Server Monitoring for $4.99 - Free trial >> http://monitoring.sbsowl.com >> >> >> >> "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <> wrote in message >> news:%... >> > Stuart: >> > >> > In order to get your SBS running Correctly it's really simple. >> > >> > There are Three Rules with SBS... >> > (And these are Rules! not Guidelines) >> > >> > 1. Use the Wizards >> > 2. Use the Wizards >> > 3. Use the Wizards.. >> > >> > Users Are Configured with Wizards >> > Network is Configured with Wizards >> > Fax management is Configured with Wizards >> > Backup is Configured with Wizards >> > IP change is Configured with Wizards >> > PC/Server Connections are Configured with Wizards >> > Exchange Mailboxes are Configured with Wizards >> > user Password Policies are configured with Wizards. >> > There's more but I'm getting tired of typing. >> > >> > Not using the wizards you will BREAK SBS >> > and a lot of it's Features. >> > >> > It sounds like you will be better off to FLATEN >> > and start over. YES I said that! >> > >> > Typically you should do this 3 times to get the Feel Of the SBS Server >> > and >> > it's Wizards. >> > >> > SBS is NOT I repeat NOT >> > Windows Server 2003 With Exchange, Sharepoint, WSUS, Fax Sharing Thrown >> > on >> > it. |
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It sounds like you have either installed Windows Server 2003 SP1 or SP2, but have not installed SBS 2003 SP1. This is a known issue in that scenario. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/897342/en-us On a server that has a processor that supports hardware-based data execution prevention, the Small Business Server Add Licensing Wizard may crash Please note that SBS 2003 RTM is no longer supported. So the while the "workaround" in the article will get you by, you really need to upgrade to SBS 2003 SP1. http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive...etirement.aspx -- Hope that helps, David Copeland Microsoft Small Business Server Support This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Newsgroups: SBS v4.x : microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz SBS 2000: microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000 SBS 2003: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <> wrote in message news:%23ERXch$... >I assume that they worked before you Deployed the server > other wise that would be very stupid. > > What service Pack did you install that you think broke it? > You can try Uninstalling that SP and re installing it. > > OR > > You can try recovering from a backup from the point at which it was > working. > But if it you can't get it to work. > > Flatten the server and start from scratch.... > Those wizards need to be used and working. > > > Russ > > -- > > Russell Grover > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > http://www.SBITS.Biz > Server Monitoring for $4.99 - Free trial > http://monitoring.sbsowl.com > > > > "stuart macleod" <> wrote in > message news:5F62AA58-4111-45D7-9A19-... >>i have installed about 30 sbs2003 boxes and this has never happened >>previously >> what about uninstalling a service pack do you think this may rectify this >> as >> its now on a clients site as it was working >> >> "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" wrote: >> >>> If you don't want to go to my link here is the Basics >>> Top 10 Gotchas >>> The domain can have only one machine running Windows SBS >>> Windows SBS 2003 Setup places the machine running Windows SBS at the >>> root of >>> an Active Directory forest. The end result is that there can be one and >>> only >>> one server running Windows SBS in a Windows SBS domain. >>> >>> Many Enterprise IT Pros have stumbled right here, thinking that Windows >>> SBS >>> is like Windows Server, Standard or Enterprise Editions, on this point. >>> They >>> assume that they can install Windows SBS 2003 on a server and then drop >>> that >>> server on to an existing Windows Server domain as another replica domain >>> controller on the network with no issue. But they can't! The server >>> running >>> Windows SBS always sits at the root of the domain. This obviously means >>> that >>> you can have only one server running Windows SBS on a network. >>> >>> There can be only one machine running Windows SBS in a domain! Also, the >>> Windows SBS computer must be the root of the forest so you can't add >>> another >>> Windows Server machine to a Windows SBS network as the primary domain >>> controller. (You can add extra machines running Windows Server to a >>> Windows >>> SBS domain as replica domain controllers, line-of-business (LOB) >>> application >>> servers, or servers that have Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server >>> enabled.) >>> >>> You can't establish trusts with other domains >>> Another surprise for the Enterprise IT Pro who is familiar with Windows >>> Server only in the enterprise space is that Windows SBS domains cannot >>> establish trusts with any other domains-period. No if-ands-or-buts about >>> it; >>> a Windows SBS domain stands alone. You can't establish a trust between a >>> Windows SBS domain and a Windows Server domain, and you can't establish >>> trusts between Windows SBS domains. >>> >>> Note >>> The End-User License Agreement (EULA) for Windows SBS specifically >>> prohibits >>> "hacking" the system in order to work around the "no trusts" rule. So >>> not >>> only is Windows SBS configured to not allow trusts, but you also break >>> your >>> licensing agreement if you try! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Some Enterprise IT Pros have recommended Windows SBS for a small >>> business >>> under the mistaken notion that they could tie the Windows SBS domain >>> into >>> another Windows Server domain using trusts, only to find out they >>> couldn't-after >>> they purchased Windows SBS and installed it at the small business! >>> >>> You can't create child domains >>> Following on the second gotcha, you need to know that Windows SBS does >>> not >>> allow child domains. That is, you can't create a child domain (or >>> sub-domain) beneath the initial Windows SBS domain that you create >>> during >>> Setup. Unlike Windows Server 2003, Standard, Enterprise, or Datacenter >>> Editions, Windows SBS doesn't allow you to further subdivide your domain >>> namespace hierarchically by creating child domains. >>> >>> For example, if the small business you're assisting is the Contoso >>> company, >>> and the root domain name is contoso.local (".local" is the default >>> domain >>> root suggested by Windows SBS Setup for the internal domain), you can't >>> add >>> child domains accounting.contoso.local or >>> payroll.accounting.contoso.local. >>> This makes sense when you consider that a typical small business employs >>> a >>> small number of staff and operates out of a single location. The small >>> size >>> of the average small business just doesn't call for the division of the >>> namespace into child domains. >>> >>> Only 75 users, computers, or devices can connect to the server at one >>> time >>> In contrast to Windows Server, where users connecting to the server can >>> number into the thousands, Windows SBS 2003 handles the upper end of the >>> average small business-75 users or devices (including computers) at the >>> most. This is the fourth gotcha for Enterprise IT Pros! >>> >>> Because you're probably used to working with Windows Server, Enterprise >>> Edition, or even with Windows Server, Datacenter Edition, in which >>> thousands >>> of users and devices are common, you should keep this limit in mind when >>> you're helping a small business decide whether to install Windows SBS >>> 2003 >>> on their network. A business that has more than 75 users or devices >>> should >>> consider other editions of Windows Server 2003. >>> >>> Finish installing Windows SBS before you customize it >>> You can think of a Windows SBS installation as happening in two phases: >>> the >>> first phase is the installation of the operating system that drives >>> Windows >>> SBS, and the second phase is the installation of the Windows SBS >>> application. When the first phase is finished, you have an operating >>> system; >>> when the second phase is finished, you have all of Windows SBS 2003. A >>> full >>> installation isn't finished until both phases are finished. >>> >>> There is a point during installation when the operating system has been >>> installed and the user is returned to the desktop. Some Enterprise IT >>> Pros >>> have been tempted to pause here and tweak the operating system before >>> they >>> install the rest of Windows SBS. But a word of caution: don't do it! >>> >>> The second phase of the installation does a great deal of configuration >>> of >>> the underlying operating system. Setup prompts the administrator to make >>> configuration decisions for areas like Internet connectivity, DHCP, and >>> DNS. >>> The end result is that if you did tweak the operating system between >>> phases, >>> the changes that you made after Phase 1 might be overwritten during >>> Phase 2, >>> and those changes that weren't overwritten might cause problems for the >>> rest >>> of the installation. >>> >>> Now having said that, let me add that it is a good practice to take a >>> quick >>> look at Device Manager once the first phase is finished. You should >>> check >>> Device Manager to ensure that the operating system correctly recognized >>> your >>> server hardware. If it didn't, this is the time to get the right drivers >>> installed-before you press on to Phase 2. >>> >>> Aside from that one exception, don't try to customize between phases. >>> Finish >>> the entire installation, and make the appropriate configuration changes >>> only >>> when Setup prompts you to do so. >>> >>> Use the Windows SBS wizards, not MMC snap-ins >>> Probably the biggest misstep for Enterprise IT Pros who know Windows >>> Server >>> only in an enterprise network happens right here: Windows SBS wizards >>> vs. >>> Microsoft Management Console (MMC) snap-ins. Enterprise IT Pros often, >>> mistakenly, jump to the familiar MMC snap-ins instead of using the >>> Server >>> Management console wizards. A good rule of thumb here is this: if the >>> Windows SBS Server Management console provides a wizard, use it! >>> >>> Windows SBS is filled with handy wizards that take the place of the MMC >>> snap-ins that most Enterprise IT Pros use to modify or manage their >>> servers. >>> Many common management tasks, like adding a new user-something you might >>> usually do with the Active Directory Users and Computers >>> snap-in-shouldn't >>> be done with an MMC snap-in. In Windows SBS, you really should use the >>> wizards provided in the Server Management console. >>> >>> Here's why: the Windows SBS wizards do customizations behind the scenes >>> that >>> make the product work best for a typical small-business environment. >>> And, as >>> I mentioned earlier, some Windows SBS wizards perform several tasks at >>> once, >>> so that changes you make in one place cause changes behind the scenes in >>> other places. For example, the Add User Wizard creates a user account in >>> Active Directory, creates a mailbox for the user in Exchange, and sets >>> access permissions for the user on the company intranet, to name just a >>> few! >>> The MMC snap-ins aren't all connected that way, and they haven't been >>> customized for small-business use, so if you use the snap-ins instead of >>> the >>> wizards, you might actually break some Windows SBS functionality. In >>> Windows >>> SBS, Enterprise IT Pros should let the wizards do the magic! >>> >>> Windows SBS client-access licenses are all that client computers need to >>> access Windows SBS >>> In a way, licensing is fairly simple with Windows SBS. Instead of having >>> to >>> purchase separate client-access licenses (CALs) for each server >>> application >>> running on the Windows SBS machine-for example, one for Windows Server >>> 2003, >>> one for Exchange 2003, and one for SQL ServerT 2000-Windows SBS requires >>> only one CAL per user or device. With this one CAL, the user or device >>> can >>> access the services provided by the server applications that Windows SBS >>> includes. You should take special note that the CALs for Windows SBS are >>> not >>> the same as the CALs for Windows Server or for Exchange. You can't add a >>> standard Windows Server CAL to Windows SBS; Windows SBS requires Windows >>> SBS >>> CALs. >>> >>> Also, if you add a computer running Windows Server as a member server in >>> a >>> Windows SBS domain, you don't need any extra licenses for the client >>> computers to access the member server; the Windows SBS CAL covers that, >>> too! >>> But be advised: if you have a member server running applications that >>> require their own licenses-for example, Terminal Server, or a >>> line-of-business application with a SQL Server backend-then you might >>> need >>> to buy additional licenses for those applications. Check the licensing >>> requirements for the application. >>> >>> And a final tip: SBS CALs are sold in increments of 5 or 20, so keep >>> that in >>> mind if you're advising a small business about the cost of licensing for >>> a >>> Windows SBS network. >>> >>> Terminal Server runs only in Remote Administration mode >>> Windows SBS includes Terminal Server, but you can run it only in Remote >>> Administration mode. As you no doubt recall, Terminal Server can run in >>> either of two modes: Application Server mode, and Remote Administration >>> mode. On a server running Windows SBS, Terminal Server runs only in >>> Remote >>> Administration mode. This is one of the big gotchas! >>> >>> If you want to make Terminal Server in Application Server mode available >>> in >>> a Windows SBS network, you have to add an additional server to the >>> network >>> running Windows Server and Terminal Server in Application Server mode. >>> Because this isn't hard to do (as you'll see in the later section, "Set >>> Up >>> Server Computer Wizard"), it's a quick task for the administrator. Just >>> be >>> aware that client computers connecting to Terminal Server on the >>> additional >>> server need Terminal Server CALs in addition to the Windows SBS CALs. >>> >>> Bottom line? Windows SBS provides Terminal Server only in Remote >>> Administration mode, so you can't provide Terminal Server in Application >>> Server mode for network users. But if you want to provide Terminal >>> Server in >>> Application Server mode for a Windows SBS network, you can easily do >>> this if >>> you add an additional server running Windows Server and you configure it >>> to >>> provide Terminal Server for your users. >>> >>> Leave the default Active Directory structure as is >>> Windows SBS provides a default installation experience that doesn't >>> require >>> a lot of work by the administrator. And when you do need to make changes >>> to >>> your server, Windows SBS provides easy wizards for most tasks. This >>> holds >>> true for the default Active Directory structure. >>> >>> For example: by default, when users are added to the Windows SBS network >>> using the Add User Wizard, user objects are placed in the >>> ServerName.local.MyBusiness.Users.SBSUsers organizational unit (OU) in >>> Active Directory (where ServerName is the name of the server running >>> Windows >>> SBS). Other functions in Windows SBS expect to find the network users in >>> that OU. Moving users out of the OU or renaming the OU might cause these >>> other functions to fail. >>> >>> The crucial point here is that you should leave the default Active >>> Directory >>> structure as is, or else proceed with extreme caution. >>> >>> Know the Windows SBS hardware maximums >>> While it's true in general that the stronger the hardware, the better >>> the >>> performance of the operating system, you should know just how much you >>> can >>> upgrade the hardware that runs Windows SBS. >>> >>> Take a look at the following table, which compares the hardware maximums >>> of >>> Windows SBS 2003 to those of other Windows Server editions. Keep this >>> table >>> in mind when you're thinking about what hardware to buy to run Windows >>> SBS >>> 2003. The hardware maximums are different than those of other Windows >>> Server >>> operating systems, especially Enterprise and Datacenter Editions: >>> >>> Table 1 Comparison of Windows Server hardware maximums >>> >>> Server Product >>> Maximum Amount of Memory >>> Maximum Number of Physical Processors >>> Platforms >>> >>> Windows Small Business Server 2003 >>> 4 gigabytes (GB) >>> 2 >>> x86 >>> >>> Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition >>> 4 GB >>> 4 >>> x86 >>> >>> Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition >>> 32 GB with x86 >>> >>> 64 GB with x64 >>> 8 >>> x86 >>> >>> x64 >>> >>> Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition >>> 512 GB >>> 32, 64, or 128 >>> x64 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> And while we're on the topic of hardware, a good practice is to connect >>> all >>> of the hardware on the server before running Windows SBS Setup, because >>> Setup makes some configuration choices depending on what's installed. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Russell Grover >>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner >>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. >>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) >>> http://www.SBITS.Biz >>> Server Monitoring for $4.99 - Free trial >>> http://monitoring.sbsowl.com >>> >>> >>> >>> "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <> wrote in message >>> news:%... >>> > Stuart: >>> > >>> > In order to get your SBS running Correctly it's really simple. >>> > >>> > There are Three Rules with SBS... >>> > (And these are Rules! not Guidelines) >>> > >>> > 1. Use the Wizards >>> > 2. Use the Wizards >>> > 3. Use the Wizards.. >>> > >>> > Users Are Configured with Wizards >>> > Network is Configured with Wizards >>> > Fax management is Configured with Wizards >>> > Backup is Configured with Wizards >>> > IP change is Configured with Wizards >>> > PC/Server Connections are Configured with Wizards >>> > Exchange Mailboxes are Configured with Wizards >>> > user Password Policies are configured with Wizards. >>> > There's more but I'm getting tired of typing. >>> > >>> > Not using the wizards you will BREAK SBS >>> > and a lot of it's Features. >>> > >>> > It sounds like you will be better off to FLATEN >>> > and start over. YES I said that! >>> > >>> > Typically you should do this 3 times to get the Feel Of the SBS Server >>> > and >>> > it's Wizards. >>> > >>> > SBS is NOT I repeat NOT >>> > Windows Server 2003 With Exchange, Sharepoint, WSUS, Fax Sharing >>> > Thrown on >>> > it. > > |
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Agreed all service packs need to be installed
Russ -- Russell Grover Microsoft Gold Certified Partner Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) http://www.SBITS.Biz Server Monitoring for $4.99 - Free trial http://monitoring.sbsowl.com "David Copeland [MSFT]" <> wrote in message news:... > Stuart, > > It sounds like you have either installed Windows Server 2003 SP1 or SP2, > but have not installed SBS 2003 SP1. This is a known issue in that > scenario. > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/897342/en-us > On a server that has a processor that supports hardware-based data > execution prevention, the Small Business Server Add Licensing Wizard may > crash > > Please note that SBS 2003 RTM is no longer supported. So the while the > "workaround" in the article will get you by, you really need to upgrade to > SBS 2003 SP1. > > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive...etirement.aspx > > > -- > > Hope that helps, > David Copeland > Microsoft Small Business Server Support > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. > > Newsgroups: > SBS v4.x : microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz > SBS 2000: microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000 > SBS 2003: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <> wrote in message > news:%23ERXch$... >>I assume that they worked before you Deployed the server >> other wise that would be very stupid. >> >> What service Pack did you install that you think broke it? >> You can try Uninstalling that SP and re installing it. >> >> OR >> >> You can try recovering from a backup from the point at which it was >> working. >> But if it you can't get it to work. >> >> Flatten the server and start from scratch.... >> Those wizards need to be used and working. >> >> >> Russ >> >> -- >> >> Russell Grover >> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner >> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. >> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) >> http://www.SBITS.Biz >> Server Monitoring for $4.99 - Free trial >> http://monitoring.sbsowl.com >> >> >> >> "stuart macleod" <> wrote in >> message news:5F62AA58-4111-45D7-9A19-... >>>i have installed about 30 sbs2003 boxes and this has never happened >>>previously >>> what about uninstalling a service pack do you think this may rectify >>> this as >>> its now on a clients site as it was working >>> >>> "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" wrote: >>> >>>> If you don't want to go to my link here is the Basics >>>> Top 10 Gotchas >>>> The domain can have only one machine running Windows SBS >>>> Windows SBS 2003 Setup places the machine running Windows SBS at the >>>> root of >>>> an Active Directory forest. The end result is that there can be one and >>>> only >>>> one server running Windows SBS in a Windows SBS domain. >>>> >>>> Many Enterprise IT Pros have stumbled right here, thinking that Windows >>>> SBS >>>> is like Windows Server, Standard or Enterprise Editions, on this point. >>>> They >>>> assume that they can install Windows SBS 2003 on a server and then drop >>>> that >>>> server on to an existing Windows Server domain as another replica >>>> domain >>>> controller on the network with no issue. But they can't! The server >>>> running >>>> Windows SBS always sits at the root of the domain. This obviously means >>>> that >>>> you can have only one server running Windows SBS on a network. >>>> >>>> There can be only one machine running Windows SBS in a domain! Also, >>>> the >>>> Windows SBS computer must be the root of the forest so you can't add >>>> another >>>> Windows Server machine to a Windows SBS network as the primary domain >>>> controller. (You can add extra machines running Windows Server to a >>>> Windows >>>> SBS domain as replica domain controllers, line-of-business (LOB) >>>> application >>>> servers, or servers that have Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server >>>> enabled.) >>>> >>>> You can't establish trusts with other domains >>>> Another surprise for the Enterprise IT Pro who is familiar with Windows >>>> Server only in the enterprise space is that Windows SBS domains cannot >>>> establish trusts with any other domains-period. No if-ands-or-buts >>>> about it; >>>> a Windows SBS domain stands alone. You can't establish a trust between >>>> a >>>> Windows SBS domain and a Windows Server domain, and you can't establish >>>> trusts between Windows SBS domains. >>>> >>>> Note >>>> The End-User License Agreement (EULA) for Windows SBS specifically >>>> prohibits >>>> "hacking" the system in order to work around the "no trusts" rule. So >>>> not >>>> only is Windows SBS configured to not allow trusts, but you also break >>>> your >>>> licensing agreement if you try! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Some Enterprise IT Pros have recommended Windows SBS for a small >>>> business >>>> under the mistaken notion that they could tie the Windows SBS domain >>>> into >>>> another Windows Server domain using trusts, only to find out they >>>> couldn't-after >>>> they purchased Windows SBS and installed it at the small business! >>>> >>>> You can't create child domains >>>> Following on the second gotcha, you need to know that Windows SBS does >>>> not >>>> allow child domains. That is, you can't create a child domain (or >>>> sub-domain) beneath the initial Windows SBS domain that you create >>>> during >>>> Setup. Unlike Windows Server 2003, Standard, Enterprise, or Datacenter >>>> Editions, Windows SBS doesn't allow you to further subdivide your >>>> domain >>>> namespace hierarchically by creating child domains. >>>> >>>> For example, if the small business you're assisting is the Contoso >>>> company, >>>> and the root domain name is contoso.local (".local" is the default >>>> domain >>>> root suggested by Windows SBS Setup for the internal domain), you can't >>>> add >>>> child domains accounting.contoso.local or >>>> payroll.accounting.contoso.local. >>>> This makes sense when you consider that a typical small business >>>> employs a >>>> small number of staff and operates out of a single location. The small >>>> size >>>> of the average small business just doesn't call for the division of the >>>> namespace into child domains. >>>> >>>> Only 75 users, computers, or devices can connect to the server at one >>>> time >>>> In contrast to Windows Server, where users connecting to the server can >>>> number into the thousands, Windows SBS 2003 handles the upper end of >>>> the >>>> average small business-75 users or devices (including computers) at the >>>> most. This is the fourth gotcha for Enterprise IT Pros! >>>> >>>> Because you're probably used to working with Windows Server, Enterprise >>>> Edition, or even with Windows Server, Datacenter Edition, in which >>>> thousands >>>> of users and devices are common, you should keep this limit in mind >>>> when >>>> you're helping a small business decide whether to install Windows SBS >>>> 2003 >>>> on their network. A business that has more than 75 users or devices >>>> should >>>> consider other editions of Windows Server 2003. >>>> >>>> Finish installing Windows SBS before you customize it >>>> You can think of a Windows SBS installation as happening in two phases: >>>> the >>>> first phase is the installation of the operating system that drives >>>> Windows >>>> SBS, and the second phase is the installation of the Windows SBS >>>> application. When the first phase is finished, you have an operating >>>> system; >>>> when the second phase is finished, you have all of Windows SBS 2003. A >>>> full >>>> installation isn't finished until both phases are finished. >>>> >>>> There is a point during installation when the operating system has been >>>> installed and the user is returned to the desktop. Some Enterprise IT >>>> Pros >>>> have been tempted to pause here and tweak the operating system before >>>> they >>>> install the rest of Windows SBS. But a word of caution: don't do it! >>>> >>>> The second phase of the installation does a great deal of configuration >>>> of >>>> the underlying operating system. Setup prompts the administrator to >>>> make >>>> configuration decisions for areas like Internet connectivity, DHCP, and >>>> DNS. >>>> The end result is that if you did tweak the operating system between >>>> phases, >>>> the changes that you made after Phase 1 might be overwritten during >>>> Phase 2, >>>> and those changes that weren't overwritten might cause problems for the >>>> rest >>>> of the installation. >>>> >>>> Now having said that, let me add that it is a good practice to take a >>>> quick >>>> look at Device Manager once the first phase is finished. You should >>>> check >>>> Device Manager to ensure that the operating system correctly recognized >>>> your >>>> server hardware. If it didn't, this is the time to get the right >>>> drivers >>>> installed-before you press on to Phase 2. >>>> >>>> Aside from that one exception, don't try to customize between phases. >>>> Finish >>>> the entire installation, and make the appropriate configuration changes >>>> only >>>> when Setup prompts you to do so. >>>> >>>> Use the Windows SBS wizards, not MMC snap-ins >>>> Probably the biggest misstep for Enterprise IT Pros who know Windows >>>> Server >>>> only in an enterprise network happens right here: Windows SBS wizards >>>> vs. >>>> Microsoft Management Console (MMC) snap-ins. Enterprise IT Pros often, >>>> mistakenly, jump to the familiar MMC snap-ins instead of using the >>>> Server >>>> Management console wizards. A good rule of thumb here is this: if the >>>> Windows SBS Server Management console provides a wizard, use it! >>>> >>>> Windows SBS is filled with handy wizards that take the place of the MMC >>>> snap-ins that most Enterprise IT Pros use to modify or manage their >>>> servers. >>>> Many common management tasks, like adding a new user-something you >>>> might >>>> usually do with the Active Directory Users and Computers >>>> snap-in-shouldn't >>>> be done with an MMC snap-in. In Windows SBS, you really should use the >>>> wizards provided in the Server Management console. >>>> >>>> Here's why: the Windows SBS wizards do customizations behind the scenes >>>> that >>>> make the product work best for a typical small-business environment. >>>> And, as >>>> I mentioned earlier, some Windows SBS wizards perform several tasks at >>>> once, >>>> so that changes you make in one place cause changes behind the scenes >>>> in >>>> other places. For example, the Add User Wizard creates a user account >>>> in >>>> Active Directory, creates a mailbox for the user in Exchange, and sets >>>> access permissions for the user on the company intranet, to name just a >>>> few! >>>> The MMC snap-ins aren't all connected that way, and they haven't been >>>> customized for small-business use, so if you use the snap-ins instead >>>> of the >>>> wizards, you might actually break some Windows SBS functionality. In >>>> Windows >>>> SBS, Enterprise IT Pros should let the wizards do the magic! >>>> >>>> Windows SBS client-access licenses are all that client computers need >>>> to >>>> access Windows SBS >>>> In a way, licensing is fairly simple with Windows SBS. Instead of >>>> having to >>>> purchase separate client-access licenses (CALs) for each server >>>> application >>>> running on the Windows SBS machine-for example, one for Windows Server >>>> 2003, >>>> one for Exchange 2003, and one for SQL ServerT 2000-Windows SBS >>>> requires >>>> only one CAL per user or device. With this one CAL, the user or device >>>> can >>>> access the services provided by the server applications that Windows >>>> SBS >>>> includes. You should take special note that the CALs for Windows SBS >>>> are not >>>> the same as the CALs for Windows Server or for Exchange. You can't add >>>> a >>>> standard Windows Server CAL to Windows SBS; Windows SBS requires >>>> Windows SBS >>>> CALs. >>>> >>>> Also, if you add a computer running Windows Server as a member server >>>> in a >>>> Windows SBS domain, you don't need any extra licenses for the client >>>> computers to access the member server; the Windows SBS CAL covers that, >>>> too! >>>> But be advised: if you have a member server running applications that >>>> require their own licenses-for example, Terminal Server, or a >>>> line-of-business application with a SQL Server backend-then you might >>>> need >>>> to buy additional licenses for those applications. Check the licensing >>>> requirements for the application. >>>> >>>> And a final tip: SBS CALs are sold in increments of 5 or 20, so keep >>>> that in >>>> mind if you're advising a small business about the cost of licensing >>>> for a >>>> Windows SBS network. >>>> >>>> Terminal Server runs only in Remote Administration mode >>>> Windows SBS includes Terminal Server, but you can run it only in Remote >>>> Administration mode. As you no doubt recall, Terminal Server can run in >>>> either of two modes: Application Server mode, and Remote Administration >>>> mode. On a server running Windows SBS, Terminal Server runs only in >>>> Remote >>>> Administration mode. This is one of the big gotchas! >>>> >>>> If you want to make Terminal Server in Application Server mode >>>> available in >>>> a Windows SBS network, you have to add an additional server to the >>>> network >>>> running Windows Server and Terminal Server in Application Server mode. >>>> Because this isn't hard to do (as you'll see in the later section, "Set >>>> Up >>>> Server Computer Wizard"), it's a quick task for the administrator. Just >>>> be >>>> aware that client computers connecting to Terminal Server on the >>>> additional >>>> server need Terminal Server CALs in addition to the Windows SBS CALs. >>>> >>>> Bottom line? Windows SBS provides Terminal Server only in Remote >>>> Administration mode, so you can't provide Terminal Server in >>>> Application >>>> Server mode for network users. But if you want to provide Terminal >>>> Server in >>>> Application Server mode for a Windows SBS network, you can easily do >>>> this if >>>> you add an additional server running Windows Server and you configure >>>> it to >>>> provide Terminal Server for your users. >>>> >>>> Leave the default Active Directory structure as is >>>> Windows SBS provides a default installation experience that doesn't >>>> require >>>> a lot of work by the administrator. And when you do need to make >>>> changes to >>>> your server, Windows SBS provides easy wizards for most tasks. This >>>> holds >>>> true for the default Active Directory structure. >>>> >>>> For example: by default, when users are added to the Windows SBS >>>> network >>>> using the Add User Wizard, user objects are placed in the >>>> ServerName.local.MyBusiness.Users.SBSUsers organizational unit (OU) in >>>> Active Directory (where ServerName is the name of the server running >>>> Windows >>>> SBS). Other functions in Windows SBS expect to find the network users >>>> in >>>> that OU. Moving users out of the OU or renaming the OU might cause >>>> these >>>> other functions to fail. >>>> >>>> The crucial point here is that you should leave the default Active >>>> Directory >>>> structure as is, or else proceed with extreme caution. >>>> >>>> Know the Windows SBS hardware maximums >>>> While it's true in general that the stronger the hardware, the better >>>> the >>>> performance of the operating system, you should know just how much you >>>> can >>>> upgrade the hardware that runs Windows SBS. >>>> >>>> Take a look at the following table, which compares the hardware >>>> maximums of >>>> Windows SBS 2003 to those of other Windows Server editions. Keep this >>>> table >>>> in mind when you're thinking about what hardware to buy to run Windows >>>> SBS >>>> 2003. The hardware maximums are different than those of other Windows >>>> Server >>>> operating systems, especially Enterprise and Datacenter Editions: >>>> >>>> Table 1 Comparison of Windows Server hardware maximums >>>> >>>> Server Product >>>> Maximum Amount of Memory >>>> Maximum Number of Physical Processors >>>> Platforms >>>> >>>> Windows Small Business Server 2003 >>>> 4 gigabytes (GB) >>>> 2 >>>> x86 >>>> >>>> Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition >>>> 4 GB >>>> 4 >>>> x86 >>>> >>>> Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition >>>> 32 GB with x86 >>>> >>>> 64 GB with x64 >>>> 8 >>>> x86 >>>> >>>> x64 >>>> >>>> Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition >>>> 512 GB >>>> 32, 64, or 128 >>>> x64 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> And while we're on the topic of hardware, a good practice is to connect >>>> all >>>> of the hardware on the server before running Windows SBS Setup, because >>>> Setup makes some configuration choices depending on what's installed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Russell Grover >>>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner >>>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. >>>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) >>>> http://www.SBITS.Biz >>>> Server Monitoring for $4.99 - Free trial >>>> http://monitoring.sbsowl.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <> wrote in message >>>> news:%... >>>> > Stuart: >>>> > >>>> > In order to get your SBS running Correctly it's really simple. >>>> > >>>> > There are Three Rules with SBS... >>>> > (And these are Rules! not Guidelines) >>>> > >>>> > 1. Use the Wizards >>>> > 2. Use the Wizards >>>> > 3. Use the Wizards.. >>>> > >>>> > Users Are Configured with Wizards >>>> > Network is Configured with Wizards >>>> > Fax management is Configured with Wizards >>>> > Backup is Configured with Wizards >>>> > IP change is Configured with Wizards >>>> > PC/Server Connections are Configured with Wizards >>>> > Exchange Mailboxes are Configured with Wizards >>>> > user Password Policies are configured with Wizards. >>>> > There's more but I'm getting tired of typing. >>>> > >>>> > Not using the wizards you will BREAK SBS >>>> > and a lot of it's Features. >>>> > >>>> > It sounds like you will be better off to FLATEN >>>> > and start over. YES I said that! >>>> > >>>> > Typically you should do this 3 times to get the Feel Of the SBS >>>> > Server and >>>> > it's Wizards. >>>> > >>>> > SBS is NOT I repeat NOT >>>> > Windows Server 2003 With Exchange, Sharepoint, WSUS, Fax Sharing >>>> > Thrown on >>>> > it. >> >> > |
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