Documented proof WHY Vista is such a piece of crap

I keep saying Vista is garbage, yet the doubting Thomas crowd pretends
no, no it can't be true. So I decided to give the naysayers a real
world simple example of how brain dead Windows truly is.

These days I spend the lion's share of my time monitoring my
investments. To that end I have an E-Trade account. I use the optional
Market Trader platform which is Java based and allows a lot of real
time data to be displayed.

To make a long story short because of useless "security" the idiots of
Redmond included in Microsoft's cheesy browser in order to get the
E-Trade software to work correctly I needed to setup the links to my
E-Trade account as a "trusted" web site or it will hang trying to run
the Java software. On the surface setting up a "trusted" site is a
simple enough task that you can find in Explorer's options.

What's wrong, as is so common with all Microsoft crap is it simply
doesn't work as advertised, in other words after setting up a trusted
site the browser STILL won't trust it, resulting in endless nagging of
do you WANT to trust it bullshit.

So simply entering http://www.etrade.com after setting it up as a
"trusted" site following E-Trade's instructions,I get the following
nag screen EVERY time I try to go to E-Trade's main web page:

"The current web page is trying to open a web site in your trusted
sites list. Do you want to allow this?"

To get the Java features to work correctly I should get redirected
automatically to https://usetrade.com but no I don't, not without
first saying "yes" to the above nag screen which of course totally
defeats the purpose of setting up a "trusted" site. If I try to go to
the "trusted" URL directly I get DNS errors.

My point? Well Microsoft, you blithering morons, if I jumped through a
bunch of hoops to set up a TRUSTED WEB SITE under YOUR browser
settings and you idiots acknowledge E-Trade is on my "approved" list
of web sites I told it to TRUST the browser should damn it, "trust"
whatever is listed in the trusted web site list and simply go to such
a site without any further nagging about or phony bullshit "security"
crap. Why are you forcing me to say yes to something that is already
set up to be trusted? I know why, just more Microsoft stupidity,
arrogance and useless nag screens that do nothing but annoy.

After clicking yes I'm only at the default E-Trade web site page
ANYONE can get to, I do not yet have nor do I expect to gain access to
my account at this stage, I need to enter a user ID and password at
this page as you would expect. So setting up a "trusted" site in
Microsoft's cheesy browser is totally useless as far as being a
trusted site is concerned since the browser doesn't really "trust"
what you set up and still nags are you sure you want to do something
you told it to always trust. MINDLESS!

Using another browser, like Apple's Safari, I immediately get to the
gateway E-Trade page, no nagging, it simply works.

My point is simply this. Microsoft simply does NOT know how to write
good software. This is but one example of sloppy useless code that in
the end does nothing. Setting up a "trusted" web site doesn't in any
way TRUST it, it only generates a useless nag screen asking do you
want to trust something you already TOLD IT to always trust.

Surprise is how UAC works. It only pops up nag screens. There is no
real security with that either.

Only the idiots software engineers at Microsoft are this stupid and
arrogant.

"Adam Albright" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I keep saying Vista is garbage, yet the doubting Thomas crowd pretends
> no, no it can't be true. So I decided to give the naysayers a real
> world simple example of how brain dead Windows truly is.
>
> These days I spend the lion's share of my time monitoring my
> investments. To that end I have an E-Trade account. I use the optional
> Market Trader platform which is Java based and allows a lot of real
> time data to be displayed.
>
> To make a long story short because of useless "security" the idiots of
> Redmond included in Microsoft's cheesy browser in order to get the
> E-Trade software to work correctly I needed to setup the links to my
> E-Trade account as a "trusted" web site or it will hang trying to run
> the Java software. On the surface setting up a "trusted" site is a
> simple enough task that you can find in Explorer's options.
>
> What's wrong, as is so common with all Microsoft crap is it simply
> doesn't work as advertised, in other words after setting up a trusted
> site the browser STILL won't trust it, resulting in endless nagging of
> do you WANT to trust it bullshit.
>
> So simply entering http://www.etrade.com after setting it up as a
> "trusted" site following E-Trade's instructions,I get the following
> nag screen EVERY time I try to go to E-Trade's main web page:
>
> "The current web page is trying to open a web site in your trusted
> sites list. Do you want to allow this?"
>
> To get the Java features to work correctly I should get redirected
> automatically to https://usetrade.com but no I don't, not without
> first saying "yes" to the above nag screen which of course totally
> defeats the purpose of setting up a "trusted" site. If I try to go to
> the "trusted" URL directly I get DNS errors.
>
> My point? Well Microsoft, you blithering morons, if I jumped through a
> bunch of hoops to set up a TRUSTED WEB SITE under YOUR browser
> settings and you idiots acknowledge E-Trade is on my "approved" list
> of web sites I told it to TRUST the browser should damn it, "trust"
> whatever is listed in the trusted web site list and simply go to such
> a site without any further nagging about or phony bullshit "security"
> crap. Why are you forcing me to say yes to something that is already
> set up to be trusted? I know why, just more Microsoft stupidity,
> arrogance and useless nag screens that do nothing but annoy.
>
> After clicking yes I'm only at the default E-Trade web site page
> ANYONE can get to, I do not yet have nor do I expect to gain access to
> my account at this stage, I need to enter a user ID and password at
> this page as you would expect. So setting up a "trusted" site in
> Microsoft's cheesy browser is totally useless as far as being a
> trusted site is concerned since the browser doesn't really "trust"
> what you set up and still nags are you sure you want to do something
> you told it to always trust. MINDLESS!
>
> Using another browser, like Apple's Safari, I immediately get to the
> gateway E-Trade page, no nagging, it simply works.
>
> My point is simply this. Microsoft simply does NOT know how to write
> good software. This is but one example of sloppy useless code that in
> the end does nothing. Setting up a "trusted" web site doesn't in any
> way TRUST it, it only generates a useless nag screen asking do you
> want to trust something you already TOLD IT to always trust.
>
> Surprise is how UAC works. It only pops up nag screens. There is no
> real security with that either.
>
> Only the idiots software engineers at Microsoft are this stupid and
> arrogant.
>


Although it may be absurd...
I guess it's better to err on the side of caution.


Safari has recently been shown to be totally unsecure...
so if I were going to do financial transactions I'd rather a browser have
too much security than not enough.

On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:26:56 -0500, "philo" <> wrote:

>
>"Adam Albright" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> I keep saying Vista is garbage, yet the doubting Thomas crowd pretends
>> no, no it can't be true. So I decided to give the naysayers a real
>> world simple example of how brain dead Windows truly is.
>>
>> These days I spend the lion's share of my time monitoring my
>> investments. To that end I have an E-Trade account. I use the optional
>> Market Trader platform which is Java based and allows a lot of real
>> time data to be displayed.
>>
>> To make a long story short because of useless "security" the idiots of
>> Redmond included in Microsoft's cheesy browser in order to get the
>> E-Trade software to work correctly I needed to setup the links to my
>> E-Trade account as a "trusted" web site or it will hang trying to run
>> the Java software. On the surface setting up a "trusted" site is a
>> simple enough task that you can find in Explorer's options.
>>
>> What's wrong, as is so common with all Microsoft crap is it simply
>> doesn't work as advertised, in other words after setting up a trusted
>> site the browser STILL won't trust it, resulting in endless nagging of
>> do you WANT to trust it bullshit.
>>
>> So simply entering http://www.etrade.com after setting it up as a
>> "trusted" site following E-Trade's instructions,I get the following
>> nag screen EVERY time I try to go to E-Trade's main web page:
>>
>> "The current web page is trying to open a web site in your trusted
>> sites list. Do you want to allow this?"
>>
>> To get the Java features to work correctly I should get redirected
>> automatically to https://usetrade.com but no I don't, not without
>> first saying "yes" to the above nag screen which of course totally
>> defeats the purpose of setting up a "trusted" site. If I try to go to
>> the "trusted" URL directly I get DNS errors.
>>
>> My point? Well Microsoft, you blithering morons, if I jumped through a
>> bunch of hoops to set up a TRUSTED WEB SITE under YOUR browser
>> settings and you idiots acknowledge E-Trade is on my "approved" list
>> of web sites I told it to TRUST the browser should damn it, "trust"
>> whatever is listed in the trusted web site list and simply go to such
>> a site without any further nagging about or phony bullshit "security"
>> crap. Why are you forcing me to say yes to something that is already
>> set up to be trusted? I know why, just more Microsoft stupidity,
>> arrogance and useless nag screens that do nothing but annoy.
>>
>> After clicking yes I'm only at the default E-Trade web site page
>> ANYONE can get to, I do not yet have nor do I expect to gain access to
>> my account at this stage, I need to enter a user ID and password at
>> this page as you would expect. So setting up a "trusted" site in
>> Microsoft's cheesy browser is totally useless as far as being a
>> trusted site is concerned since the browser doesn't really "trust"
>> what you set up and still nags are you sure you want to do something
>> you told it to always trust. MINDLESS!
>>
>> Using another browser, like Apple's Safari, I immediately get to the
>> gateway E-Trade page, no nagging, it simply works.
>>
>> My point is simply this. Microsoft simply does NOT know how to write
>> good software. This is but one example of sloppy useless code that in
>> the end does nothing. Setting up a "trusted" web site doesn't in any
>> way TRUST it, it only generates a useless nag screen asking do you
>> want to trust something you already TOLD IT to always trust.
>>
>> Surprise is how UAC works. It only pops up nag screens. There is no
>> real security with that either.
>>
>> Only the idiots software engineers at Microsoft are this stupid and
>> arrogant.
>>
>
>
>Although it may be absurd...
>I guess it's better to err on the side of caution.
>
>
>Safari has recently been shown to be totally unsecure...
>so if I were going to do financial transactions I'd rather a browser have
>too much security than not enough.
>
What security? Its simply a useless click through nag screen. You
comments illustrate my point. People are feed a line of bullshit and
they accept it blindly without question.

Microsoft claims to have a "feature" whereby you can tell their
browser TRUST this list of web sites. Does it? No! What does setting
up a trusted site in Microsoft's browser accomplish? Not a damn thing
except to becomes a nag anytime you try to go to one of your "trusted"
sites. THAT was my point.

Listen up. UAC is the same thing. IT's just utter bullshit. UAC
doesn't protect you. Defender doesn't protect you.

As far as E-Trade, using Market Trader or Power Pro, both bypass the
browser and use Java which while not perfect is far more secure than
Windows coming from Sun Microsystems.

"Adam Albright" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:26:56 -0500, "philo" <> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Adam Albright" <> wrote in message
> >news:.. .
> >> I keep saying Vista is garbage, yet the doubting Thomas crowd pretends
> >> no, no it can't be true. So I decided to give the naysayers a real
> >> world simple example of how brain dead Windows truly is.
> >>
> >> These days I spend the lion's share of my time monitoring my
> >> investments. To that end I have an E-Trade account. I use the optional
> >> Market Trader platform which is Java based and allows a lot of real
> >> time data to be displayed.
> >>
> >> To make a long story short because of useless "security" the idiots of
> >> Redmond included in Microsoft's cheesy browser in order to get the
> >> E-Trade software to work correctly I needed to setup the links to my
> >> E-Trade account as a "trusted" web site or it will hang trying to run
> >> the Java software. On the surface setting up a "trusted" site is a
> >> simple enough task that you can find in Explorer's options.
> >>
> >> What's wrong, as is so common with all Microsoft crap is it simply
> >> doesn't work as advertised, in other words after setting up a trusted
> >> site the browser STILL won't trust it, resulting in endless nagging of
> >> do you WANT to trust it bullshit.
> >>
> >> So simply entering http://www.etrade.com after setting it up as a
> >> "trusted" site following E-Trade's instructions,I get the following
> >> nag screen EVERY time I try to go to E-Trade's main web page:
> >>
> >> "The current web page is trying to open a web site in your trusted
> >> sites list. Do you want to allow this?"
> >>
> >> To get the Java features to work correctly I should get redirected
> >> automatically to https://usetrade.com but no I don't, not without
> >> first saying "yes" to the above nag screen which of course totally
> >> defeats the purpose of setting up a "trusted" site. If I try to go to
> >> the "trusted" URL directly I get DNS errors.
> >>
> >> My point? Well Microsoft, you blithering morons, if I jumped through a
> >> bunch of hoops to set up a TRUSTED WEB SITE under YOUR browser
> >> settings and you idiots acknowledge E-Trade is on my "approved" list
> >> of web sites I told it to TRUST the browser should damn it, "trust"
> >> whatever is listed in the trusted web site list and simply go to such
> >> a site without any further nagging about or phony bullshit "security"
> >> crap. Why are you forcing me to say yes to something that is already
> >> set up to be trusted? I know why, just more Microsoft stupidity,
> >> arrogance and useless nag screens that do nothing but annoy.
> >>
> >> After clicking yes I'm only at the default E-Trade web site page
> >> ANYONE can get to, I do not yet have nor do I expect to gain access to
> >> my account at this stage, I need to enter a user ID and password at
> >> this page as you would expect. So setting up a "trusted" site in
> >> Microsoft's cheesy browser is totally useless as far as being a
> >> trusted site is concerned since the browser doesn't really "trust"
> >> what you set up and still nags are you sure you want to do something
> >> you told it to always trust. MINDLESS!
> >>
> >> Using another browser, like Apple's Safari, I immediately get to the
> >> gateway E-Trade page, no nagging, it simply works.
> >>
> >> My point is simply this. Microsoft simply does NOT know how to write
> >> good software. This is but one example of sloppy useless code that in
> >> the end does nothing. Setting up a "trusted" web site doesn't in any
> >> way TRUST it, it only generates a useless nag screen asking do you
> >> want to trust something you already TOLD IT to always trust.
> >>
> >> Surprise is how UAC works. It only pops up nag screens. There is no
> >> real security with that either.
> >>
> >> Only the idiots software engineers at Microsoft are this stupid and
> >> arrogant.
> >>
> >
> >
> >Although it may be absurd...
> >I guess it's better to err on the side of caution.
> >
> >
> >Safari has recently been shown to be totally unsecure...
> >so if I were going to do financial transactions I'd rather a browser have
> >too much security than not enough.
> >
> What security? Its simply a useless click through nag screen. You
> comments illustrate my point. People are feed a line of bullshit and
> they accept it blindly without question.
>
> Microsoft claims to have a "feature" whereby you can tell their
> browser TRUST this list of web sites. Does it? No! What does setting
> up a trusted site in Microsoft's browser accomplish? Not a damn thing
> except to becomes a nag anytime you try to go to one of your "trusted"
> sites. THAT was my point.
>
> Listen up. UAC is the same thing. IT's just utter bullshit. UAC
> doesn't protect you. Defender doesn't protect you.
>
> As far as E-Trade, using Market Trader or Power Pro, both bypass the
> browser and use Java which while not perfect is far more secure than
> Windows coming from Sun Microsystems.
>

And you are surprised that Windows does things illogically ????

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"Adam Albright" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I keep saying Vista is garbage, yet the doubting Thomas crowd pretends
> no, no it can't be true. So I decided to give the naysayers a real
> world simple example of how brain dead Windows truly is.
>
> These days I spend the lion's share of my time monitoring my
> investments. To that end I have an E-Trade account. I use the optional
> Market Trader platform which is Java based and allows a lot of real
> time data to be displayed.

If you're such a big investor you should be able to afford numerous
machines, keep XP on one of them. Or do like the Real investors and have a
dedicated machine for that purpose only. E-trade? haha



>
> To make a long story short because of useless "security" the idiots of
> Redmond included in Microsoft's cheesy browser in order to get the
> E-Trade software to work correctly I needed to setup the links to my
> E-Trade account as a "trusted" web site or it will hang trying to run
> the Java software. On the surface setting up a "trusted" site is a
> simple enough task that you can find in Explorer's options.
>
> What's wrong, as is so common with all Microsoft crap is it simply
> doesn't work as advertised, in other words after setting up a trusted
> site the browser STILL won't trust it, resulting in endless nagging of
> do you WANT to trust it bullshit.
>
> So simply entering http://www.etrade.com after setting it up as a
> "trusted" site following E-Trade's instructions,I get the following
> nag screen EVERY time I try to go to E-Trade's main web page:
>
> "The current web page is trying to open a web site in your trusted
> sites list. Do you want to allow this?"
>
> To get the Java features to work correctly I should get redirected
> automatically to https://usetrade.com but no I don't, not without
> first saying "yes" to the above nag screen which of course totally
> defeats the purpose of setting up a "trusted" site. If I try to go to
> the "trusted" URL directly I get DNS errors.
>
> My point? Well Microsoft, you blithering morons, if I jumped through a
> bunch of hoops to set up a TRUSTED WEB SITE under YOUR browser
> settings and you idiots acknowledge E-Trade is on my "approved" list
> of web sites I told it to TRUST the browser should damn it, "trust"
> whatever is listed in the trusted web site list and simply go to such
> a site without any further nagging about or phony bullshit "security"
> crap. Why are you forcing me to say yes to something that is already
> set up to be trusted? I know why, just more Microsoft stupidity,
> arrogance and useless nag screens that do nothing but annoy.
>
> After clicking yes I'm only at the default E-Trade web site page
> ANYONE can get to, I do not yet have nor do I expect to gain access to
> my account at this stage, I need to enter a user ID and password at
> this page as you would expect. So setting up a "trusted" site in
> Microsoft's cheesy browser is totally useless as far as being a
> trusted site is concerned since the browser doesn't really "trust"
> what you set up and still nags are you sure you want to do something
> you told it to always trust. MINDLESS!
>
> Using another browser, like Apple's Safari, I immediately get to the
> gateway E-Trade page, no nagging, it simply works.
>
> My point is simply this. Microsoft simply does NOT know how to write
> good software. This is but one example of sloppy useless code that in
> the end does nothing. Setting up a "trusted" web site doesn't in any
> way TRUST it, it only generates a useless nag screen asking do you
> want to trust something you already TOLD IT to always trust.
>
> Surprise is how UAC works. It only pops up nag screens. There is no
> real security with that either.
>
> Only the idiots software engineers at Microsoft are this stupid and
> arrogant.
>