Does Redmond Control Your Compuer Remotely?

You can bet your sweet a$$ they do:

http://www.computerworld.com/action/...intsrc=hm_list
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A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express
permission. I don't think they are spying on us and if they are so what?
Are they going to see a bunch posts to the vista.general group and get a
laugh out of the content?

If you have bootleg software on your machine, do you think that the
MicroSquish police are going to knock down your door at 2 AM and take you
into custody? Come on now.

Alias, you are safe with your Ubuntu and I suggest you remove your network
connectivity with your Vista machine and just continue to play games on it.
That way they won't be watching you play Doom.


"Alias" <> wrote in message
news:fcbnm2$60f$...
> You can bet your sweet a$$ they do:
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/...intsrc=hm_list
> --
> Alias
> To email me, remove shoes

Bill Yanaire wrote:
> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express
> permission.


Ah! But they're *not* doing it without permission. Read your EULA.
(The linked article, while substantially true, uses a deliberately false
and sensational head line.) Actually, this is *not* being done
_without_ user consent. Just the opposite. Every user of each
operating systems has been given advance notice that such things could
happen, and has consented to it.

Read the Vista EULA. Section 7 makes it clear that this could happen:

================================================== ======================

7. INTERNET-BASED SERVICES. Microsoft provides Internet-based services
with the software. It may *change* or cancel them at any time.
a. Consent for Internet-Based Services. The software features
described below and in the Windows Vista Privacy Statement connect to
Microsoft or service provider computer systems over the Internet. In
some cases, you will *not* receive a separate notice when they connect.
You may switch off these features or not use them. For more information
about these features, see the Windows Vista Privacy Statement at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=20615. By using these features,
you consent to the transmission of this information. Microsoft does not
use the information to identify or contact you.

================================================== ======================
(Emphasis mine)

The WinXP EULA also made this clear:

================================================== ======================

Internet-Based Services Components. The SOFTWARE contains
components that enable and facilitate the use of certain
Internet-based services. You acknowledge and agree that
MS, Microsoft Corporation or their subsidiaries may
automatically check the version of the SOFTWARE and/or
its components that you are utilizing and may provide
upgrades or supplements to the SOFTWARE that may be
*automatically* downloaded to your COMPUTER.

================================================== ======================
(Again, emphasis mine)


Do I approve of this practice? Not really. I'd prefer to know
about each and every change as it happens, just on the off chance that,
if a problem occurs, I've better information on which to base my
troubleshooting. But I'm an exception; most people simply don't want to
know about technical details of how the OS is working.




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Bill Yanaire wrote:
> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express
> permission.

You can say that indeed.

Here is another article describing the same:
(from Adrian Kingsley-Hughes, ZDnet)
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?cat=55&tag=nl.e622


I don't think they are spying on us and if they are so what?

So what?
Are you really totally ignorant or just trolling?


> Are they going to see a bunch posts to the vista.general group and get a
> laugh out of the content?

They don't need a backdoor in your PC to see what is published here, do
they?

>
> If you have bootleg software on your machine, do you think that the
> MicroSquish police are going to knock down your door at 2 AM and take you
> into custody? Come on now.

Get better informed or shut it up.

>
> Alias, you are safe with your Ubuntu and I suggest you remove your network
> connectivity with your Vista machine and just continue to play games on it.
> That way they won't be watching you play Doom.

I think you are really the ignorant idiot you pretend to be.

In case you live in under some precious dictator, here is some news for
you: Some people on this planet cherish their freedom and privacy.
So they made laws to protect themselfs from megalomaniacs.
Many countries also have laws concerning electronic burglary.
It is a crime.
Period.

Grow up, get an education, then read Orwell. In your case 5 times.

No regards,
Erwin Moller


>
>
> "Alias" <> wrote in message
> news:fcbnm2$60f$...
>> You can bet your sweet a$$ they do:
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/...intsrc=hm_list
>> --
>> Alias
>> To email me, remove shoes
>
>

Bruce Chambers wrote:
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express
>> permission.
>
>
> Ah! But they're *not* doing it without permission. Read your EULA.
> (The linked article, while substantially true, uses a deliberately false
> and sensational head line.) Actually, this is *not* being done
> _without_ user consent. Just the opposite. Every user of each
> operating systems has been given advance notice that such things could
> happen, and has consented to it.
>
> Read the Vista EULA. Section 7 makes it clear that this could happen:
>
> ================================================== ======================
>
> 7. INTERNET-BASED SERVICES. Microsoft provides Internet-based services
> with the software. It may *change* or cancel them at any time.
> a. Consent for Internet-Based Services. The software features
> described below and in the Windows Vista Privacy Statement connect to
> Microsoft or service provider computer systems over the Internet. In
> some cases, you will *not* receive a separate notice when they connect.
> You may switch off these features or not use them. For more information
> about these features, see the Windows Vista Privacy Statement at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=20615. By using these features,
> you consent to the transmission of this information. Microsoft does not
> use the information to identify or contact you.
>
> ================================================== ======================
> (Emphasis mine)
>
> The WinXP EULA also made this clear:
>
> ================================================== ======================
>
> Internet-Based Services Components. The SOFTWARE contains
> components that enable and facilitate the use of certain
> Internet-based services. You acknowledge and agree that
> MS, Microsoft Corporation or their subsidiaries may
> automatically check the version of the SOFTWARE and/or
> its components that you are utilizing and may provide
> upgrades or supplements to the SOFTWARE that may be
> *automatically* downloaded to your COMPUTER.
>
> ================================================== ======================
> (Again, emphasis mine)
>
>
> Do I approve of this practice? Not really. I'd prefer to know
> about each and every change as it happens, just on the off chance that,
> if a problem occurs, I've better information on which to base my
> troubleshooting. But I'm an exception; most people simply don't want to
> know about technical details of how the OS is working.
>
>
>
>

When you have a de facto monopoly and the knowledge that most people do
not read the EULA, you can do almost anything you please.

The EULA was written by a team of lawyers to tell you what you *can't*
do with your computer. The Open Source license was written by a human
being to tell you what you *can* do with your computer.

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To email me, remove shoes

"Erwin Moller"
<Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spam yourself.com> wrote in
message news:46e9688a$0$227$...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express
>> permission.
>
> You can say that indeed.
>
> Here is another article describing the same:
> (from Adrian Kingsley-Hughes, ZDnet)
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?cat=55&tag=nl.e622
>
>
> I don't think they are spying on us and if they are so what?
>
> So what?
> Are you really totally ignorant or just trolling?

You are pretty stupid. Microsoft isn't spying on us, I was making a joke.
>
>
>> Are they going to see a bunch posts to the vista.general group and get a
>> laugh out of the content?
>
> They don't need a backdoor in your PC to see what is published here, do
> they?
>
>>
>> If you have bootleg software on your machine, do you think that the
>> MicroSquish police are going to knock down your door at 2 AM and take you
>> into custody? Come on now.
>
> Get better informed or shut it up.

A response to Alias so STFU.
>
>>
>> Alias, you are safe with your Ubuntu and I suggest you remove your
>> network connectivity with your Vista machine and just continue to play
>> games on it. That way they won't be watching you play Doom.
>
> I think you are really the ignorant idiot you pretend to be.

I may be "pretending" but you are an actual IDIOT.
>
> In case you live in under some precious dictator, here is some news for
> you: Some people on this planet cherish their freedom and privacy.
> So they made laws to protect themselfs from megalomaniacs.
> Many countries also have laws concerning electronic burglary.
> It is a crime.
> Period.
>
> Grow up, get an education, then read Orwell. In your case 5 times.

Grow up, get some manners and stop being an A$$. I think Vista is probably
too complicated for you. I think you would be better off with DOS 6.2

>
> No regards,
> Erwin Moller

Who the hell would want regards from a douche bag like you? Just FYI.


>
>
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <> wrote in message
>> news:fcbnm2$60f$...
>>> You can bet your sweet a$$ they do:
>>>
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/...intsrc=hm_list
>>> --
>>> Alias
>>> To email me, remove shoes
>>

"Alias" <> wrote in message
news:fcbpes$anc$...
> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express
>>> permission.
>>
>>
>> Ah! But they're *not* doing it without permission. Read your EULA.
>> (The linked article, while substantially true, uses a deliberately false
>> and sensational head line.) Actually, this is *not* being done _without_
>> user consent. Just the opposite. Every user of each operating systems
>> has been given advance notice that such things could happen, and has
>> consented to it.
>>
>> Read the Vista EULA. Section 7 makes it clear that this could happen:
>>
>> ================================================== ======================
>>
>> 7. INTERNET-BASED SERVICES. Microsoft provides Internet-based services
>> with the software. It may *change* or cancel them at any time.
>> a. Consent for Internet-Based Services. The software features
>> described below and in the Windows Vista Privacy Statement connect to
>> Microsoft or service provider computer systems over the Internet. In
>> some cases, you will *not* receive a separate notice when they connect.
>> You may switch off these features or not use them. For more information
>> about these features, see the Windows Vista Privacy Statement at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=20615. By using these features,
>> you consent to the transmission of this information. Microsoft does not
>> use the information to identify or contact you.
>>
>> ================================================== ======================
>> (Emphasis mine)
>>
>> The WinXP EULA also made this clear:
>>
>> ================================================== ======================
>>
>> Internet-Based Services Components. The SOFTWARE contains
>> components that enable and facilitate the use of certain
>> Internet-based services. You acknowledge and agree that
>> MS, Microsoft Corporation or their subsidiaries may
>> automatically check the version of the SOFTWARE and/or
>> its components that you are utilizing and may provide
>> upgrades or supplements to the SOFTWARE that may be
>> *automatically* downloaded to your COMPUTER.
>>
>> ================================================== ======================
>> (Again, emphasis mine)
>>
>>
>> Do I approve of this practice? Not really. I'd prefer to know about
>> each and every change as it happens, just on the off chance that, if a
>> problem occurs, I've better information on which to base my
>> troubleshooting. But I'm an exception; most people simply don't want to
>> know about technical details of how the OS is working.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> When you have a de facto monopoly and the knowledge that most people do
> not read the EULA, you can do almost anything you please.
>
> The EULA was written by a team of lawyers to tell you what you *can't* do
> with your computer. The Open Source license was written by a human being
> to tell you what you *can* do with your computer.
>
> --
> Alias
> To email me, remove shoes

WOW Microsoft doesn't have human being lawyers? Amazing!

Vista User wrote:
> "Alias" <> wrote in message
> news:fcbpes$anc$...
>> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express
>>>> permission.
>>>
>>> Ah! But they're *not* doing it without permission. Read your EULA.
>>> (The linked article, while substantially true, uses a deliberately false
>>> and sensational head line.) Actually, this is *not* being done _without_
>>> user consent. Just the opposite. Every user of each operating systems
>>> has been given advance notice that such things could happen, and has
>>> consented to it.
>>>
>>> Read the Vista EULA. Section 7 makes it clear that this could happen:
>>>
>>> ================================================== ======================
>>>
>>> 7. INTERNET-BASED SERVICES. Microsoft provides Internet-based services
>>> with the software. It may *change* or cancel them at any time.
>>> a. Consent for Internet-Based Services. The software features
>>> described below and in the Windows Vista Privacy Statement connect to
>>> Microsoft or service provider computer systems over the Internet. In
>>> some cases, you will *not* receive a separate notice when they connect.
>>> You may switch off these features or not use them. For more information
>>> about these features, see the Windows Vista Privacy Statement at
>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=20615. By using these features,
>>> you consent to the transmission of this information. Microsoft does not
>>> use the information to identify or contact you.
>>>
>>> ================================================== ======================
>>> (Emphasis mine)
>>>
>>> The WinXP EULA also made this clear:
>>>
>>> ================================================== ======================
>>>
>>> Internet-Based Services Components. The SOFTWARE contains
>>> components that enable and facilitate the use of certain
>>> Internet-based services. You acknowledge and agree that
>>> MS, Microsoft Corporation or their subsidiaries may
>>> automatically check the version of the SOFTWARE and/or
>>> its components that you are utilizing and may provide
>>> upgrades or supplements to the SOFTWARE that may be
>>> *automatically* downloaded to your COMPUTER.
>>>
>>> ================================================== ======================
>>> (Again, emphasis mine)
>>>
>>>
>>> Do I approve of this practice? Not really. I'd prefer to know about
>>> each and every change as it happens, just on the off chance that, if a
>>> problem occurs, I've better information on which to base my
>>> troubleshooting. But I'm an exception; most people simply don't want to
>>> know about technical details of how the OS is working.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> When you have a de facto monopoly and the knowledge that most people do
>> not read the EULA, you can do almost anything you please.
>>
>> The EULA was written by a team of lawyers to tell you what you *can't* do
>> with your computer. The Open Source license was written by a human being
>> to tell you what you *can* do with your computer.
>>
>> --
>> Alias
>> To email me, remove shoes
>
> WOW Microsoft doesn't have human being lawyers? Amazing!
>
>

You said it; I didn't. 'Course, due to the location of your head, you
didn't notice what the real message is but what else is new?

--
Alias
To email me, remove shoes

Bill Yanaire wrote:
> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express
> permission. I don't think they are spying on us and if they are so what?
> Are they going to see a bunch posts to the vista.general group and get a
> laugh out of the content?

Redmond doesn't have access to newsgroups?

>
> If you have bootleg software on your machine, do you think that the
> MicroSquish police are going to knock down your door at 2 AM and take you
> into custody? Come on now.

No, they will just shut down Windows, much worse, because in court MS
would probably lose.

>
> Alias, you are safe with your Ubuntu and I suggest you remove your network
> connectivity with your Vista machine and just continue to play games on it.
> That way they won't be watching you play Doom.

I'm not worried about them "watching" me but I do not like them changing
my computer without my knowledge. Do you?

--
Alias
To email me, remove shoes

>
>
> "Alias" <> wrote in message
> news:fcbnm2$60f$...
>> You can bet your sweet a$$ they do:
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/...intsrc=hm_list
>> --
>> Alias
>> To email me, remove shoes
>
>

"Alias" <> wrote in message
news:fcbqhi$ch9$...
> Vista User wrote:
>> "Alias" <> wrote in message
>> news:fcbpes$anc$...
>>> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>>> A little scary that MicroSquish is updating files without our express
>>>>> permission.
>>>>
>>>> Ah! But they're *not* doing it without permission. Read your
>>>> EULA. (The linked article, while substantially true, uses a
>>>> deliberately false and sensational head line.) Actually, this is *not*
>>>> being done _without_ user consent. Just the opposite. Every user of
>>>> each operating systems has been given advance notice that such things
>>>> could happen, and has consented to it.
>>>>
>>>> Read the Vista EULA. Section 7 makes it clear that this could happen:
>>>>
>>>> ================================================== ======================
>>>>
>>>> 7. INTERNET-BASED SERVICES. Microsoft provides Internet-based services
>>>> with the software. It may *change* or cancel them at any time.
>>>> a. Consent for Internet-Based Services. The software features
>>>> described below and in the Windows Vista Privacy Statement connect to
>>>> Microsoft or service provider computer systems over the Internet. In
>>>> some cases, you will *not* receive a separate notice when they connect.
>>>> You may switch off these features or not use them. For more
>>>> information about these features, see the Windows Vista Privacy
>>>> Statement at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=20615. By using
>>>> these features, you consent to the transmission of this information.
>>>> Microsoft does not use the information to identify or contact you.
>>>>
>>>> ================================================== ======================
>>>> (Emphasis mine)
>>>>
>>>> The WinXP EULA also made this clear:
>>>>
>>>> ================================================== ======================
>>>>
>>>> Internet-Based Services Components. The SOFTWARE contains
>>>> components that enable and facilitate the use of certain
>>>> Internet-based services. You acknowledge and agree that
>>>> MS, Microsoft Corporation or their subsidiaries may
>>>> automatically check the version of the SOFTWARE and/or
>>>> its components that you are utilizing and may provide
>>>> upgrades or supplements to the SOFTWARE that may be
>>>> *automatically* downloaded to your COMPUTER.
>>>>
>>>> ================================================== ======================
>>>> (Again, emphasis mine)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do I approve of this practice? Not really. I'd prefer to know
>>>> about each and every change as it happens, just on the off chance that,
>>>> if a problem occurs, I've better information on which to base my
>>>> troubleshooting. But I'm an exception; most people simply don't want
>>>> to know about technical details of how the OS is working.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> When you have a de facto monopoly and the knowledge that most people do
>>> not read the EULA, you can do almost anything you please.
>>>
>>> The EULA was written by a team of lawyers to tell you what you *can't*
>>> do with your computer. The Open Source license was written by a human
>>> being to tell you what you *can* do with your computer.

Yea, but you can't really do anything with your OpenSource license so it
doesn't matter! At least with Microsoft products you can get some real work
done!

>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias
>>> To email me, remove shoes
>>
>> WOW Microsoft doesn't have human being lawyers? Amazing!
>
> You said it; I didn't. 'Course, due to the location of your head, you
> didn't notice what the real message is but what else is new?
>
> --
> Alias
> To email me, remove shoes