Does Vista 64 bit boot slower ?

Ok..at the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask this anyway. I just
installed Vista Business 64 bit after using Home Premuim 32 bit. I have four
gigs of Ram, and have changed nothing. My system now takes at least twice as
long to boot up than it did before. Is this normal ? or is my system just
wacked.

Thanks.

Hi,

No, that's not right. Boot time should be about the same. I would check
memory timings, and try booting with only 2GB installed to see if there are
any issues there.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"GJB" <> wrote in message
news:C80B88F0-8766-4548-8773-...
> Ok..at the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask this anyway. I just
> installed Vista Business 64 bit after using Home Premuim 32 bit. I have
> four
> gigs of Ram, and have changed nothing. My system now takes at least twice
> as
> long to boot up than it did before. Is this normal ? or is my system
> just
> wacked.
>
> Thanks.

memory timings ??? what are they and how do I check them ? What should I do
after I check them....I am BAFFLED about this !

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> No, that's not right. Boot time should be about the same. I would check
> memory timings, and try booting with only 2GB installed to see if there are
> any issues there.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "GJB" <> wrote in message
> news:C80B88F0-8766-4548-8773-...
> > Ok..at the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask this anyway. I just
> > installed Vista Business 64 bit after using Home Premuim 32 bit. I have
> > four
> > gigs of Ram, and have changed nothing. My system now takes at least twice
> > as
> > long to boot up than it did before. Is this normal ? or is my system
> > just
> > wacked.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
>

"GJB" <> wrote in message
news:C80B88F0-8766-4548-8773-...
> Ok..at the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask this anyway. I just
> installed Vista Business 64 bit after using Home Premuim 32 bit. I have
> four
> gigs of Ram, and have changed nothing. My system now takes at least twice
> as
> long to boot up than it did before. Is this normal ? or is my system
> just
> wacked.
>
> Thanks.

Hi GJB--

It's definitely as Rick said. But one factor that may influence your boot
time definitely is what you have starting up. I know you might counter that
you have exactly what started up in 32 bit Vista, but make sure you trim
what you don't need. Ed Bott always details that there are 12 places
including reg locations where you can influence what might startup in a
Vista, Win 7, or Win XP boot. But places where you can impact this and
your boot time are:

MSCONFIG start tab
services.msc in run box

See http://www.blackviper.com for a guide to services and stop the ones you
don't need running. Vista and Win 7 startup services that you don't often
have the hdw or software for.

CH

Have the 64bit version Vista been working faster after the installation on
your machine? How did you install it on your machine? Is it a upgrade or a
clean reinstallation? If it is always working like that with a clean
reinstallation, you can use msconfig to disable all the optional services
and program from the startup group and see whether it will be quicker.
Otherwise you may like to check the hardware compatibility for Vista 64.
Defragment and some cleaning inside the box may also help.

"GJB" <> wrote in message
news:C80B88F0-8766-4548-8773-...
> Ok..at the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask this anyway. I just
> installed Vista Business 64 bit after using Home Premuim 32 bit. I have
> four
> gigs of Ram, and have changed nothing. My system now takes at least twice
> as
> long to boot up than it did before. Is this normal ? or is my system
> just
> wacked.
>
> Thanks.

CHAD : Thanks for the info...I went into service.msc and eliminated a couple
of things which seemed to help a bit, but system still drags at boot up. I
don't get a lot of sense out of the blackviper.com link....it doesn't seem to
be very clear to me.

DONALD : I really don't notice any appreciable difference in speed with the
64 bit. It was a clean install. What I really need is a clear list of
optional services. I've checked and my hardware is definately compatible
with 64 bit. Thank you.

"Donald" wrote:

> Have the 64bit version Vista been working faster after the installation on
> your machine? How did you install it on your machine? Is it a upgrade or a
> clean reinstallation? If it is always working like that with a clean
> reinstallation, you can use msconfig to disable all the optional services
> and program from the startup group and see whether it will be quicker.
> Otherwise you may like to check the hardware compatibility for Vista 64.
> Defragment and some cleaning inside the box may also help.
>
> "GJB" <> wrote in message
> news:C80B88F0-8766-4548-8773-...
> > Ok..at the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask this anyway. I just
> > installed Vista Business 64 bit after using Home Premuim 32 bit. I have
> > four
> > gigs of Ram, and have changed nothing. My system now takes at least twice
> > as
> > long to boot up than it did before. Is this normal ? or is my system
> > just
> > wacked.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
>

Hi,

This is done in the system BIOS, which is accessed when the system initially
starts. You will need to refer to your system manual for specific access
instructions, as it differs by manufacturer. Once in the BIOS, you may need
to either reset the detection settings to automatic, or if already there set
them manually according to timing settings recommended by the ram
manufacturer.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"GJB" <> wrote in message
news:8C2F5BFE-680B-4C0A-BD1B-...
> memory timings ??? what are they and how do I check them ? What should I
> do
> after I check them....I am BAFFLED about this !
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> No, that's not right. Boot time should be about the same. I would check
>> memory timings, and try booting with only 2GB installed to see if there
>> are
>> any issues there.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "GJB" <> wrote in message
>> news:C80B88F0-8766-4548-8773-...
>> > Ok..at the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask this anyway. I
>> > just
>> > installed Vista Business 64 bit after using Home Premuim 32 bit. I
>> > have
>> > four
>> > gigs of Ram, and have changed nothing. My system now takes at least
>> > twice
>> > as
>> > long to boot up than it did before. Is this normal ? or is my system
>> > just
>> > wacked.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>>

You can try the clean boot routine described on the following page to see
whether any services or program on the startup causing it.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135/en-us

The settings of memory and other hardware are mostly within BIOS, you can
check it by entering CMOS when starting up or you can try to flash your BIOS
with the program supplied by the OEM of the computer if necessary.

"GJB" <> wrote in message
news:4873A27D-F30F-4BAB-B617-...
> CHAD : Thanks for the info...I went into service.msc and eliminated a
> couple
> of things which seemed to help a bit, but system still drags at boot up.
> I
> don't get a lot of sense out of the blackviper.com link....it doesn't seem
> to
> be very clear to me.
>
> DONALD : I really don't notice any appreciable difference in speed with
> the
> 64 bit. It was a clean install. What I really need is a clear list of
> optional services. I've checked and my hardware is definately compatible
> with 64 bit. Thank you.
>
> "Donald" wrote:
>
>> Have the 64bit version Vista been working faster after the installation
>> on
>> your machine? How did you install it on your machine? Is it a upgrade or
>> a
>> clean reinstallation? If it is always working like that with a clean
>> reinstallation, you can use msconfig to disable all the optional services
>> and program from the startup group and see whether it will be quicker.
>> Otherwise you may like to check the hardware compatibility for Vista 64.
>> Defragment and some cleaning inside the box may also help.
>>
>> "GJB" <> wrote in message
>> news:C80B88F0-8766-4548-8773-...
>> > Ok..at the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask this anyway. I
>> > just
>> > installed Vista Business 64 bit after using Home Premuim 32 bit. I
>> > have
>> > four
>> > gigs of Ram, and have changed nothing. My system now takes at least
>> > twice
>> > as
>> > long to boot up than it did before. Is this normal ? or is my system
>> > just
>> > wacked.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>>

GJB <> wrote:

>CHAD : Thanks for the info...I went into service.msc and eliminated a couple
>of things which seemed to help a bit, but system still drags at boot up. I
>don't get a lot of sense out of the blackviper.com link....it doesn't seem to
>be very clear to me.

I don't see how it could be MORE clear.

>DONALD : I really don't notice any appreciable difference in speed with the
>64 bit. It was a clean install. What I really need is a clear list of
>optional services.

There is NO clearer list than the one at Black Viper's. If that's too
confusing for you, then your computer needs a new operator.

>I've checked and my hardware is definately compatible
>with 64 bit. Thank you.
>
>"Donald" wrote:
>
>> Have the 64bit version Vista been working faster after the installation on
>> your machine? How did you install it on your machine? Is it a upgrade or a
>> clean reinstallation? If it is always working like that with a clean
>> reinstallation, you can use msconfig to disable all the optional services
>> and program from the startup group and see whether it will be quicker.
>> Otherwise you may like to check the hardware compatibility for Vista 64.
>> Defragment and some cleaning inside the box may also help.
>>
>> "GJB" <> wrote in message
>> news:C80B88F0-8766-4548-8773-...
>> > Ok..at the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask this anyway. I just
>> > installed Vista Business 64 bit after using Home Premuim 32 bit. I have
>> > four
>> > gigs of Ram, and have changed nothing. My system now takes at least twice
>> > as
>> > long to boot up than it did before. Is this normal ? or is my system
>> > just
>> > wacked.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>>

"GJB" <> wrote in message
news:4873A27D-F30F-4BAB-B617-...
> CHAD : Thanks for the info...I went into service.msc and eliminated a
> couple
> of things which seemed to help a bit, but system still drags at boot up.
> I
> don't get a lot of sense out of the blackviper.com link....it doesn't seem
> to
> be very clear to me.
>
> DONALD : I really don't notice any appreciable difference in speed with
> the
> 64 bit. It was a clean install. What I really need is a clear list of
> optional services. I've checked and my hardware is definately compatible
> with 64 bit. Thank you.
>
> "Donald" wrote:
>
>> Have the 64bit version Vista been working faster after the installation
>> on
>> your machine? How did you install it on your machine? Is it a upgrade or
>> a
>> clean reinstallation? If it is always working like that with a clean
>> reinstallation, you can use msconfig to disable all the optional services
>> and program from the startup group and see whether it will be quicker.
>> Otherwise you may like to check the hardware compatibility for Vista 64.
>> Defragment and some cleaning inside the box may also help.
>>
>> "GJB" <> wrote in message
>> news:C80B88F0-8766-4548-8773-...
>> > Ok..at the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask this anyway. I
>> > just
>> > installed Vista Business 64 bit after using Home Premuim 32 bit. I
>> > have
>> > four
>> > gigs of Ram, and have changed nothing. My system now takes at least
>> > twice
>> > as
>> > long to boot up than it did before. Is this normal ? or is my system
>> > just
>> > wacked.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>>


Which part of the boot up is slow? Power on to the Login screen, or Login to
a usable desktop?

In the first instance, and especially if you have installed SP2, if there is
a USB external drive or scanner connected, that can slow the boot process.
Hardware driver versions may make a difference too, as can faulty RAM..

In the second instance, start up items like anti-virus software can have an
effect. On a clean install, the regular start ups and processes should not
really be affecting the machine. Anything that you added may do though..

--

Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/