Does WGA really stop piracy?

It seems to me that WGA only stops illegal copuies from using
Windows Update to scan, and install updates. Couldn't one just use a
machine with a legal copy to download all the updates, burn them to
CDR, and then install them to the pirated OS machine? I know this
would be a real pain to do, but real software pirates could do it with
a little effort.

"Larry Roberts" <skin-> wrote in message
news:...
> It seems to me that WGA only stops illegal copuies from using
> Windows Update to scan, and install updates. Couldn't one just use a
> machine with a legal copy to download all the updates, burn them to
> CDR, and then install them to the pirated OS machine? I know this
> would be a real pain to do, but real software pirates could do it with
> a little effort.

The cracks are out. No need to go through all that. The pirates aren't
worried about it. It, like activation, only affects paying customers and
won't stop pirates on iota. Activation and WGA only serve to denigrate
paying customers and to assume that everyone who goes to WU is guilty of
piracy until they prove otherwise. Not only that, both PA and WGA have shown
to be defective at times and have even duped paying customers into paying
again.

Sad, really.

Alias

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:55:08 +0200, "Alias"
<aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote:

>
>"Larry Roberts" <skin-> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> It seems to me that WGA only stops illegal copuies from using
>> Windows Update to scan, and install updates. Couldn't one just use a
>> machine with a legal copy to download all the updates, burn them to
>> CDR, and then install them to the pirated OS machine? I know this
>> would be a real pain to do, but real software pirates could do it with
>> a little effort.
>
>The cracks are out. No need to go through all that. The pirates aren't
>worried about it. It, like activation, only affects paying customers and
>won't stop pirates on iota. Activation and WGA only serve to denigrate
>paying customers and to assume that everyone who goes to WU is guilty of
>piracy until they prove otherwise. Not only that, both PA and WGA have shown
>to be defective at times and have even duped paying customers into paying
>again.
>
>Sad, really.
>
>Alias
>


My cousin has a Compaq laptop that she ordered straight from
Compaq back when Win XP came out. The laptop came with WinXP Pro pre
installed, and has the activation code on the bottom of the laptop.
She never has reinstalled the OS since she had it. A couple of weeks
ago, she had a HDD failure, and bought a replacement HDD from
newegg.com. I installed it for her, and then used her restore disk to
reinstall the system to the factory default. Did all updates then with
no problems. Now the WGA says her code is invalid? WTF? It's straight
from Compaq. It's ligit. Since her system is now out of warranty, they
want to charge her for a new restore disk, and code, and Microsuk
tells her that she has to deal with Compaq, or just purchase the
retail package. How bunc!

"Larry Roberts" <skin-> wrote in message
news:...
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:55:08 +0200, "Alias"
> <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Larry Roberts" <skin-> wrote in message
>>news:. ..
>>> It seems to me that WGA only stops illegal copuies from using
>>> Windows Update to scan, and install updates. Couldn't one just use a
>>> machine with a legal copy to download all the updates, burn them to
>>> CDR, and then install them to the pirated OS machine? I know this
>>> would be a real pain to do, but real software pirates could do it with
>>> a little effort.
>>
>>The cracks are out. No need to go through all that. The pirates aren't
>>worried about it. It, like activation, only affects paying customers and
>>won't stop pirates on iota. Activation and WGA only serve to denigrate
>>paying customers and to assume that everyone who goes to WU is guilty of
>>piracy until they prove otherwise. Not only that, both PA and WGA have
>>shown
>>to be defective at times and have even duped paying customers into paying
>>again.
>>
>>Sad, really.
>>
>>Alias
>>
>
>
> My cousin has a Compaq laptop that she ordered straight from
> Compaq back when Win XP came out. The laptop came with WinXP Pro pre
> installed, and has the activation code on the bottom of the laptop.
> She never has reinstalled the OS since she had it. A couple of weeks
> ago, she had a HDD failure, and bought a replacement HDD from
> newegg.com. I installed it for her, and then used her restore disk to
> reinstall the system to the factory default. Did all updates then with
> no problems. Now the WGA says her code is invalid? WTF? It's straight
> from Compaq. It's ligit. Since her system is now out of warranty, they
> want to charge her for a new restore disk, and code, and Microsuk
> tells her that she has to deal with Compaq, or just purchase the
> retail package. How bunc!

Go to WU and put this in the address field of IE:

javascript:void(window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all'

Hit Enter. Done.

Like I said, PA and WGA ONLY affects PAYING customers while the pirates just
laugh.

Alias

A pirated copy of Windows XP cannot install a Service Pack.
Many updates are only available if SP1 or SP2 is installed first.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx

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"Larry Roberts" wrote:

| It seems to me that WGA only stops illegal copuies from using
| Windows Update to scan, and install updates. Couldn't one just use a
| machine with a legal copy to download all the updates, burn them to
| CDR, and then install them to the pirated OS machine? I know this
| would be a real pain to do, but real software pirates could do it with
| a little effort.

The statement "both PA and WGA have shown to be defective at times"
is completely false. Extensive testing proved that PA and WGA returned
ZERO (0) false positives. Only the trolls, such as "Alias", want you to
believe otherwise....ignore their ignorant statements.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Alias" wrote:

|
| The cracks are out. No need to go through all that. The pirates aren't
| worried about it. It, like activation, only affects paying customers and
| won't stop pirates on iota. Activation and WGA only serve to denigrate
| paying customers and to assume that everyone who goes to WU is guilty of
| piracy until they prove otherwise. Not only that, both PA and WGA have shown
| to be defective at times and have even duped paying customers into paying
| again.
|
| Sad, really.
|
| Alias

A manufacturer's "Restore CD" and Product Key are only valid
when you replace a hardware component with the exact same make
and model. Apparently, you did not do this and installed a totally
different model hard drive.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Larry Roberts" wrote:

| My cousin has a Compaq laptop that she ordered straight from
| Compaq back when Win XP came out. The laptop came with WinXP Pro pre
| installed, and has the activation code on the bottom of the laptop.
| She never has reinstalled the OS since she had it. A couple of weeks
| ago, she had a HDD failure, and bought a replacement HDD from
| newegg.com. I installed it for her, and then used her restore disk to
| reinstall the system to the factory default. Did all updates then with
| no problems. Now the WGA says her code is invalid? WTF? It's straight
| from Compaq. It's ligit. Since her system is now out of warranty, they
| want to charge her for a new restore disk, and code, and Microsuk
| tells her that she has to deal with Compaq, or just purchase the
| retail package. How bunc!

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
>A pirated copy of Windows XP cannot install a Service Pack.

Not true. Well, it is true as a pirated copy can't *do" anything but the
computer user can.

> Many updates are only available if SP1 or SP2 is installed first.

Irrevelant.

> --
> Carey Frisch

Please do your research before you post false information.

Thanks,

Alias

> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
> Microsoft Newsgroups
>
> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Larry Roberts" wrote:
>
> | It seems to me that WGA only stops illegal copuies from using
> | Windows Update to scan, and install updates. Couldn't one just use a
> | machine with a legal copy to download all the updates, burn them to
> | CDR, and then install them to the pirated OS machine? I know this
> | would be a real pain to do, but real software pirates could do it with
> | a little effort.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> The statement "both PA and WGA have shown to be defective at times"
> is completely false.

No, it isn't. Where do you get this from? Many people have had problems with
it.

Extensive testing proved that PA and WGA returned
> ZERO (0) false positives.

False.

Only the trolls, such as "Alias", want you to
> believe otherwise....ignore their ignorant statements.

I am not a troll. I am a paying customers who is sick of the guilty until
you are proven innocent trip, especially when only the paying customers have
to go through it, not the pirates.

Alias
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
> Microsoft Newsgroups
>
> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Alias" wrote:
>
> |
> | The cracks are out. No need to go through all that. The pirates aren't
> | worried about it. It, like activation, only affects paying customers and
> | won't stop pirates on iota. Activation and WGA only serve to denigrate
> | paying customers and to assume that everyone who goes to WU is guilty of
> | piracy until they prove otherwise. Not only that, both PA and WGA have
> shown
> | to be defective at times and have even duped paying customers into
> paying
> | again.
> |
> | Sad, really.
> |
> | Alias
>

Jesus, you don't deserve a MVP designation. Total bullcrap, Carey.

Alias
"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:u%23e$...
>A manufacturer's "Restore CD" and Product Key are only valid
> when you replace a hardware component with the exact same make
> and model. Apparently, you did not do this and installed a totally
> different model hard drive.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
> Microsoft Newsgroups
>
> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Larry Roberts" wrote:
>
> | My cousin has a Compaq laptop that she ordered straight from
> | Compaq back when Win XP came out. The laptop came with WinXP Pro pre
> | installed, and has the activation code on the bottom of the laptop.
> | She never has reinstalled the OS since she had it. A couple of weeks
> | ago, she had a HDD failure, and bought a replacement HDD from
> | newegg.com. I installed it for her, and then used her restore disk to
> | reinstall the system to the factory default. Did all updates then with
> | no problems. Now the WGA says her code is invalid? WTF? It's straight
> | from Compaq. It's ligit. Since her system is now out of warranty, they
> | want to charge her for a new restore disk, and code, and Microsuk
> | tells her that she has to deal with Compaq, or just purchase the
> | retail package. How bunc!