Driver Updates

Currently updating an older Dell - have updated graphics with latest driver
from Nvidia but windows update is insisting that I install and older driver
and lists it as a crtitcal update so hiding it presents the 'we know better
than you you do' warning that you haven't installed a critical update.

I have uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and ran a cleanup tool then installed
the latest drivers available from Nvidia yet the damn thing won't go away.

Any ideas?

RayBubbear

Windows version?
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MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.org/

RayBubbear wrote:
> Currently updating an older Dell - have updated graphics with latest
> driver
> from Nvidia but windows update is insisting that I install and older
> driver
> and lists it as a crtitcal update so hiding it presents the 'we know
> better
> than you you do' warning that you haven't installed a critical update.
>
> I have uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and ran a cleanup tool then
> installed
> the latest drivers available from Nvidia yet the damn thing won't go away.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> RayBubbear

RayBubbear wrote:
> Currently updating an older Dell - have updated graphics with
> latest driver from Nvidia but windows update is insisting that I
> install and older driver and lists it as a crtitcal update so
> hiding it presents the 'we know better than you you do' warning
> that you haven't installed a critical update.
>
> I have uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and ran a cleanup tool then
> installed the latest drivers available from Nvidia yet the damn
> thing won't go away.

An NVidia driver that is a critical update or are you visiting the hardware
section of the windows update web page?

If the latter - stop - just don't ever do that again. heh

Getting hardware drivers from the Microsoft web site *is* a crap shoot.
Usually by the time they are approved an put there - they are older than
what you would find from the manufacturer's web site. My recommendation
is - unless you have Microsoft hardware - do not visit the Windows Update
hardware drivers section - ignore it - pretend it does not exist. In fact -
even if you have Microsoft hardware - go directly to its support web page
for your drivers.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Sorry should have mentioned that - WinXP SP2. Have installed V93.71 whql
Nvidia drivers and Windows Update wants to install 52.16. This is for GeForce
4 MX420.

Wouldn't ordinarily worry but as I said it is listed as a critical update
not in the hardware section so I can't ignore it without warning messages
every time windows update is run.

Many thanks

RayBubbear

"PA Bear" wrote:

> Windows version?
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.org/
>
> RayBubbear wrote:
> > Currently updating an older Dell - have updated graphics with latest
> > driver
> > from Nvidia but windows update is insisting that I install and older
> > driver
> > and lists it as a crtitcal update so hiding it presents the 'we know
> > better
> > than you you do' warning that you haven't installed a critical update.
> >
> > I have uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and ran a cleanup tool then
> > installed
> > the latest drivers available from Nvidia yet the damn thing won't go away.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > RayBubbear
>
>

Yes it is listed as a critical update - an Nvidia driver that is older than
what is installed. It is not listed as an optional hardware update. I can't
hide it without getting warning messages about uninstalled critical updates.

See reply to PA Bear for driver details.

Many thanks

RayBubbear

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> RayBubbear wrote:
> > Currently updating an older Dell - have updated graphics with
> > latest driver from Nvidia but windows update is insisting that I
> > install and older driver and lists it as a crtitcal update so
> > hiding it presents the 'we know better than you you do' warning
> > that you haven't installed a critical update.
> >
> > I have uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and ran a cleanup tool then
> > installed the latest drivers available from Nvidia yet the damn
> > thing won't go away.
>
> An NVidia driver that is a critical update or are you visiting the hardware
> section of the windows update web page?
>
> If the latter - stop - just don't ever do that again. heh
>
> Getting hardware drivers from the Microsoft web site *is* a crap shoot.
> Usually by the time they are approved an put there - they are older than
> what you would find from the manufacturer's web site. My recommendation
> is - unless you have Microsoft hardware - do not visit the Windows Update
> hardware drivers section - ignore it - pretend it does not exist. In fact -
> even if you have Microsoft hardware - go directly to its support web page
> for your drivers.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

If using Windows Update (WU) as the update source: Scan for available
updates > Uncheck the Nvidia driver update and Hide it, ignoring any
warnings > Now install any other critical *security* updates (no Optional,
Recommended or Hardware updates) offered.

If using Automatic Updates (AU) as the update source: Control Panel >
Automatic Updates > Select the third option listed ("Notify me but...") > If
and when the Nvidia update is offered again, Hide it, ignoring any warnings
> Now install any other critical *security* updates (no Optional,
Recommended or Hardware updates) offered.

Experienced users *never* install any hardware or third-party software
updates offered by WU/AU.
--
~PA Bear


RayBubbear wrote:
> Sorry should have mentioned that - WinXP SP2. Have installed V93.71 whql
> Nvidia drivers and Windows Update wants to install 52.16. This is for
> GeForce 4 MX420.
>
> Wouldn't ordinarily worry but as I said it is listed as a critical update
> not in the hardware section so I can't ignore it without warning messages
> every time windows update is run.
>
> Many thanks
>
> RayBubbear
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>> Windows version?
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.org/
>>
>> RayBubbear wrote:
>>> Currently updating an older Dell - have updated graphics with latest
>>> driver
>>> from Nvidia but windows update is insisting that I install and older
>>> driver
>>> and lists it as a crtitcal update so hiding it presents the 'we know
>>> better
>>> than you you do' warning that you haven't installed a critical update.
>>>
>>> I have uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and ran a cleanup tool then
>>> installed
>>> the latest drivers available from Nvidia yet the damn thing won't go
>>> away.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> RayBubbear

Thanks for your reply.

I have already unchecked it so that autoupdates won't show it again however
whenever you go to windows update you get a nasty warning that you have
disabled a crtical update. That warning cannot be removed.

I have installed a later driver than the one that windows update insists is
critical. WU can't see that there is a newer driver already installed. If it
was offerred as an optional hardware update all would be OK but because it is
listed as a critical update it, annoyingly, can't be hidden away and
forgotten about.

RayBubbear

"PA Bear" wrote:

> If using Windows Update (WU) as the update source: Scan for available
> updates > Uncheck the Nvidia driver update and Hide it, ignoring any
> warnings > Now install any other critical *security* updates (no Optional,
> Recommended or Hardware updates) offered.
>
> If using Automatic Updates (AU) as the update source: Control Panel >
> Automatic Updates > Select the third option listed ("Notify me but...") > If
> and when the Nvidia update is offered again, Hide it, ignoring any warnings
> > Now install any other critical *security* updates (no Optional,
> Recommended or Hardware updates) offered.
>
> Experienced users *never* install any hardware or third-party software
> updates offered by WU/AU.
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
>
> RayBubbear wrote:
> > Sorry should have mentioned that - WinXP SP2. Have installed V93.71 whql
> > Nvidia drivers and Windows Update wants to install 52.16. This is for
> > GeForce 4 MX420.
> >
> > Wouldn't ordinarily worry but as I said it is listed as a critical update
> > not in the hardware section so I can't ignore it without warning messages
> > every time windows update is run.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > RayBubbear
> >
> > "PA Bear" wrote:
> >
> >> Windows version?
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> >> DTS-L http://dts-l.org/
> >>
> >> RayBubbear wrote:
> >>> Currently updating an older Dell - have updated graphics with latest
> >>> driver
> >>> from Nvidia but windows update is insisting that I install and older
> >>> driver
> >>> and lists it as a crtitcal update so hiding it presents the 'we know
> >>> better
> >>> than you you do' warning that you haven't installed a critical update.
> >>>
> >>> I have uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and ran a cleanup tool then
> >>> installed
> >>> the latest drivers available from Nvidia yet the damn thing won't go
> >>> away.
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>> RayBubbear
>
>

If you want to pursue this further...

Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527

Support for Windows Update:
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/wusupport
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.org/

RayBubbear wrote:
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I have already unchecked it so that autoupdates won't show it again
> however
> whenever you go to windows update you get a nasty warning that you have
> disabled a crtical update. That warning cannot be removed.
>
> I have installed a later driver than the one that windows update insists
> is
> critical. WU can't see that there is a newer driver already installed. If
> it
> was offerred as an optional hardware update all would be OK but because it
> is listed as a critical update it, annoyingly, can't be hidden away and
> forgotten about.
>
> RayBubbear
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>> If using Windows Update (WU) as the update source: Scan for available
>> updates > Uncheck the Nvidia driver update and Hide it, ignoring any
>> warnings > Now install any other critical *security* updates (no
>> Optional,
>> Recommended or Hardware updates) offered.
>>
>> If using Automatic Updates (AU) as the update source: Control Panel >
>> Automatic Updates > Select the third option listed ("Notify me but...") >
>> If and when the Nvidia update is offered again, Hide it, ignoring any
>> warnings > Now install any other critical *security* updates (no
>> Optional,
>> Recommended or Hardware updates) offered.
>>
>> Experienced users *never* install any hardware or third-party software
>> updates offered by WU/AU.
>> --
>> ~PA Bear
>>
>>
>> RayBubbear wrote:
>>> Sorry should have mentioned that - WinXP SP2. Have installed V93.71 whql
>>> Nvidia drivers and Windows Update wants to install 52.16. This is for
>>> GeForce 4 MX420.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't ordinarily worry but as I said it is listed as a critical
>>> update
>>> not in the hardware section so I can't ignore it without warning
>>> messages
>>> every time windows update is run.
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>>
>>> RayBubbear
>>>
>>> "PA Bear" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Windows version?
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.org/
>>>>
>>>> RayBubbear wrote:
>>>>> Currently updating an older Dell - have updated graphics with latest
>>>>> driver
>>>>> from Nvidia but windows update is insisting that I install and older
>>>>> driver
>>>>> and lists it as a crtitcal update so hiding it presents the 'we know
>>>>> better
>>>>> than you you do' warning that you haven't installed a critical update.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and ran a cleanup tool then
>>>>> installed
>>>>> the latest drivers available from Nvidia yet the damn thing won't go
>>>>> away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> RayBubbear

OK thankyou for your help. I will probably just install the recommended
driver and leave it be.

RayBubbear

"PA Bear" wrote:

> If you want to pursue this further...
>
> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527
>
> Support for Windows Update:
> http://support.microsoft.com/gp/wusupport
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.org/
>
> RayBubbear wrote:
> > Thanks for your reply.
> >
> > I have already unchecked it so that autoupdates won't show it again
> > however
> > whenever you go to windows update you get a nasty warning that you have
> > disabled a crtical update. That warning cannot be removed.
> >
> > I have installed a later driver than the one that windows update insists
> > is
> > critical. WU can't see that there is a newer driver already installed. If
> > it
> > was offerred as an optional hardware update all would be OK but because it
> > is listed as a critical update it, annoyingly, can't be hidden away and
> > forgotten about.
> >
> > RayBubbear
> >
> > "PA Bear" wrote:
> >
> >> If using Windows Update (WU) as the update source: Scan for available
> >> updates > Uncheck the Nvidia driver update and Hide it, ignoring any
> >> warnings > Now install any other critical *security* updates (no
> >> Optional,
> >> Recommended or Hardware updates) offered.
> >>
> >> If using Automatic Updates (AU) as the update source: Control Panel >
> >> Automatic Updates > Select the third option listed ("Notify me but...") >
> >> If and when the Nvidia update is offered again, Hide it, ignoring any
> >> warnings > Now install any other critical *security* updates (no
> >> Optional,
> >> Recommended or Hardware updates) offered.
> >>
> >> Experienced users *never* install any hardware or third-party software
> >> updates offered by WU/AU.
> >> --
> >> ~PA Bear
> >>
> >>
> >> RayBubbear wrote:
> >>> Sorry should have mentioned that - WinXP SP2. Have installed V93.71 whql
> >>> Nvidia drivers and Windows Update wants to install 52.16. This is for
> >>> GeForce 4 MX420.
> >>>
> >>> Wouldn't ordinarily worry but as I said it is listed as a critical
> >>> update
> >>> not in the hardware section so I can't ignore it without warning
> >>> messages
> >>> every time windows update is run.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks
> >>>
> >>> RayBubbear
> >>>
> >>> "PA Bear" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Windows version?
> >>>> --
> >>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> >>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> >>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.org/
> >>>>
> >>>> RayBubbear wrote:
> >>>>> Currently updating an older Dell - have updated graphics with latest
> >>>>> driver
> >>>>> from Nvidia but windows update is insisting that I install and older
> >>>>> driver
> >>>>> and lists it as a crtitcal update so hiding it presents the 'we know
> >>>>> better
> >>>>> than you you do' warning that you haven't installed a critical update.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and ran a cleanup tool then
> >>>>> installed
> >>>>> the latest drivers available from Nvidia yet the damn thing won't go
> >>>>> away.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any ideas?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RayBubbear
>
>

Best of luck with that & let us know if the installation succeeds.

RayBubbear wrote:
> OK thankyou for your help. I will probably just install the recommended
> driver and leave it be.
>
> RayBubbear
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>> If you want to pursue this further...
>>
>> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527
>>
>> Support for Windows Update:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/gp/wusupport
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.org/
>>
>> RayBubbear wrote:
>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>
>>> I have already unchecked it so that autoupdates won't show it again
>>> however
>>> whenever you go to windows update you get a nasty warning that you have
>>> disabled a crtical update. That warning cannot be removed.
>>>
>>> I have installed a later driver than the one that windows update insists
>>> is
>>> critical. WU can't see that there is a newer driver already installed.
>>> If
>>> it
>>> was offerred as an optional hardware update all would be OK but because
>>> it
>>> is listed as a critical update it, annoyingly, can't be hidden away and
>>> forgotten about.
>>>
>>> RayBubbear
>>>
>>> "PA Bear" wrote:
>>>
>>>> If using Windows Update (WU) as the update source: Scan for available
>>>> updates > Uncheck the Nvidia driver update and Hide it, ignoring any
>>>> warnings > Now install any other critical *security* updates (no
>>>> Optional,
>>>> Recommended or Hardware updates) offered.
>>>>
>>>> If using Automatic Updates (AU) as the update source: Control Panel >
>>>> Automatic Updates > Select the third option listed ("Notify me but...")
>>>> >
>>>> If and when the Nvidia update is offered again, Hide it, ignoring any
>>>> warnings > Now install any other critical *security* updates (no
>>>> Optional,
>>>> Recommended or Hardware updates) offered.
>>>>
>>>> Experienced users *never* install any hardware or third-party software
>>>> updates offered by WU/AU.
>>>> --
>>>> ~PA Bear
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RayBubbear wrote:
>>>>> Sorry should have mentioned that - WinXP SP2. Have installed V93.71
>>>>> whql
>>>>> Nvidia drivers and Windows Update wants to install 52.16. This is for
>>>>> GeForce 4 MX420.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn't ordinarily worry but as I said it is listed as a critical
>>>>> update
>>>>> not in the hardware section so I can't ignore it without warning
>>>>> messages
>>>>> every time windows update is run.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> RayBubbear
>>>>>
>>>>> "PA Bear" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows version?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RayBubbear wrote:
>>>>>>> Currently updating an older Dell - have updated graphics with latest
>>>>>>> driver
>>>>>>> from Nvidia but windows update is insisting that I install and older
>>>>>>> driver
>>>>>>> and lists it as a crtitcal update so hiding it presents the 'we know
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>> than you you do' warning that you haven't installed a critical
>>>>>>> update.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and ran a cleanup tool then
>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>> the latest drivers available from Nvidia yet the damn thing won't go
>>>>>>> away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RayBubbear