Dual boot Vista Vista

In some applications (sonar6 +plugins) my notebook seems to run out of
processing power. I have a Packard Bell with 2GB and T5500 processor and
Vista Home premium. I do not have an installation disk. My question is; if I
make a new partition on my harddisk can I install Vista again on that
partition with a repair disk and if I run it with minimal services would it
help?
Or can I define Vista services per useraccount?
Would a 64 bit version of Vista enhance my processing power?

you need 2 licenses.. or in other words to buy vista twice to do that..
since as always you are allowed to use windows only ONCE on your machine.

If you ask ANY professional Musician that is using sonar he will tell you
that Vista is a HORRIBLE
platform. It has so many problems with the new sound layer that its has
driven them nuts...

They are avoiding vista like the plauge and for good reason. Its a monster.

I suggest you dual boot with XP, but to install XP after vista you need to
do some tricks...

I will repeat this. if you want to do serious work, DITCH VISTA



"zampoo" <> wrote in message
news:F021E0AA-D3E1-4F78-9C25-...
> In some applications (sonar6 +plugins) my notebook seems to run out of
> processing power. I have a Packard Bell with 2GB and T5500 processor and
> Vista Home premium. I do not have an installation disk. My question is; if
> I
> make a new partition on my harddisk can I install Vista again on that
> partition with a repair disk and if I run it with minimal services would
> it
> help?
> Or can I define Vista services per useraccount?
> Would a 64 bit version of Vista enhance my processing power?

Do not listen to this crook. He urges people to ditch Vista because he runs
a virus making business. He wants people to stick to their XPs so he can
continue to poach people's computers.

Vista has expanded capabilities as far as the sound control goes, plus you
can use any utilities in an old XP mode if you so desire but that will be
stupid.

"fridau" <> wrote in message
news:...
> you need 2 licenses.. or in other words to buy vista twice to do that..
> since as always you are allowed to use windows only ONCE on your machine.
>
> If you ask ANY professional Musician that is using sonar he will tell you
> that Vista is a HORRIBLE
> platform. It has so many problems with the new sound layer that its has
> driven them nuts...
>
> They are avoiding vista like the plauge and for good reason. Its a
> monster.
>
> I suggest you dual boot with XP, but to install XP after vista you need to
> do some tricks...
>
> I will repeat this. if you want to do serious work, DITCH VISTA
>
>
>
> "zampoo" <> wrote in message
> news:F021E0AA-D3E1-4F78-9C25-...
>> In some applications (sonar6 +plugins) my notebook seems to run out of
>> processing power. I have a Packard Bell with 2GB and T5500 processor and
>> Vista Home premium. I do not have an installation disk. My question is;
>> if I
>> make a new partition on my harddisk can I install Vista again on that
>> partition with a repair disk and if I run it with minimal services would
>> it
>> help?
>> Or can I define Vista services per useraccount?
>> Would a 64 bit version of Vista enhance my processing power?
>
>

It is a bunch of interesting questions.

What you can do is to try to close some of the routine services that start
at startup. There is a concept of vLite, that is Vista with some services
turned off. MS does not recommend to do it but they actually mean that when
those services are turned off they cannot guarantee if the upgrades would do
normal job. Thus you can bypass that by restarting those services manually
when you do your upgrades.

Yes, I think you can define user services per user account.

Your design to have another partition seems cumbersome and not workable.
First MS will balk at your using this disk again with the same product key.
Secondly I do not know how large is you HDD. You may limit yourselves
significantly with partitioning. Running two OS is not easy on one computer.

I have a few machines with two or three OS I installed while trying to
choose what the best setup was but I regularly use only one OS and when I go
to the second one it is always a lot of trouble. I sometimes have to wait
until all upgrades are downloaded and installed with the machine restarted
because I did it last time months ago. Forget it. It is not practical.

"zampoo" <> wrote in message
news:F021E0AA-D3E1-4F78-9C25-...
> In some applications (sonar6 +plugins) my notebook seems to run out of
> processing power. I have a Packard Bell with 2GB and T5500 processor and
> Vista Home premium. I do not have an installation disk. My question is; if
> I
> make a new partition on my harddisk can I install Vista again on that
> partition with a repair disk and if I run it with minimal services would
> it
> help?
> Or can I define Vista services per useraccount?
> Would a 64 bit version of Vista enhance my processing power?

> Do not listen to this crook.
I think you must be a troll! He is 100% correct, you cannot install Vista
twice on the same PC without 2 licenses. Its always been that way with all
versions of windows.

Also what he said about Sonar is correct, as well as lots of other music
programs.
If you go to forums with musicians you will see what they say, XP is better
still especially with midi, many Yamaha cards and other hardware do not work
with vista.. and these
hardware are not cheap




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you cannot install Vista twice on the same PC without 2 licenses. Its always
been that way with all
versions of windows. This applies also to virtual machines with some
exceptions made.
Only two retail version of Windows Vista are licensed for use as a guest OS
in a VM: Windows Vista Business and Ultimate

With Windows, unless you have a volume license pack, you're only allowed to
have one installation on a single computer. Multiple installations using the
same product key without a volume license is considered piracy and is
usually prevented. (When you register, your computer's hardware is logged so
it's only licensed for that machine and cannot be registered on any other.)

Here's a excerpt from the Windows XP EULA:
"1. GRANT OF LICENSE.
Microsoft grants you the following rights provided that you comply with all
terms and conditions of this EULA:
1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access, display and run one
copy of the Software on a single computer, such as a workstation, terminal
or other device ("Workstation Computer"). The Software may not be used by
more than two (2) processors at any one time on any single Workstation
Computer.

1.2 Mandatory Activation. The license rights granted under this EULA are
limited to the first thirty (30) days after you first install the Software
unless you supply information required to activate your licensed copy in the
manner described during the setup sequence of the Software. You can activate
the Software through the use of the Internet or telephone; toll charges may
apply. You may also need to reactivate the Software if you modify your
computer hardware or alter the Software. There are technological measures in
this Software that are designed to prevent unlicensed use of the Software.
Microsoft will use those measures to confirm you have a legally licensed
copy of the Software. If you are not using a licensed copy of the Software,
you are not allowed to install the Software or future Software updates.
Microsoft will not collect any personally identifiable information from your
Workstation Computer during this process."



"AlexB" <> wrote in message
news:uG0f%...
> It is a bunch of interesting questions.
>
> What you can do is to try to close some of the routine services that start
> at startup. There is a concept of vLite, that is Vista with some services
> turned off. MS does not recommend to do it but they actually mean that
> when those services are turned off they cannot guarantee if the upgrades
> would do normal job. Thus you can bypass that by restarting those services
> manually when you do your upgrades.
>
> Yes, I think you can define user services per user account.
>
> Your design to have another partition seems cumbersome and not workable.
> First MS will balk at your using this disk again with the same product
> key. Secondly I do not know how large is you HDD. You may limit yourselves
> significantly with partitioning. Running two OS is not easy on one
> computer.
>
> I have a few machines with two or three OS I installed while trying to
> choose what the best setup was but I regularly use only one OS and when I
> go to the second one it is always a lot of trouble. I sometimes have to
> wait until all upgrades are downloaded and installed with the machine
> restarted because I did it last time months ago. Forget it. It is not
> practical.
>
> "zampoo" <> wrote in message
> news:F021E0AA-D3E1-4F78-9C25-...
>> In some applications (sonar6 +plugins) my notebook seems to run out of
>> processing power. I have a Packard Bell with 2GB and T5500 processor and
>> Vista Home premium. I do not have an installation disk. My question is;
>> if I
>> make a new partition on my harddisk can I install Vista again on that
>> partition with a repair disk and if I run it with minimal services would
>> it
>> help?
>> Or can I define Vista services per useraccount?
>> Would a 64 bit version of Vista enhance my processing power?
>



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That's precisely what I said in my next post, you are a troll.

I reacted to his statement that the OP should ditch Vista. It is a campaign
against Vista.

All the problems with Vista sound can be resolved easily by people who
understand what they are doing. Apparently you don't.

He has a CPU performance problem. It saturates to 100% and gives him
nonlinear harmonics. He does not have the range or throughput. It can easily
be corrected even with better hardware.

You are an idiot.

"jxzkzwdlq" <> wrote in message
news:47a7b2fd$0$26075$.. .
>> Do not listen to this crook.
> I think you must be a troll! He is 100% correct, you cannot install Vista
> twice on the same PC without 2 licenses. Its always been that way with all
> versions of windows.
>
> Also what he said about Sonar is correct, as well as lots of other music
> programs.
> If you go to forums with musicians you will see what they say, XP is
> better
> still especially with midi, many Yamaha cards and other hardware do not
> work with vista.. and these
> hardware are not cheap
>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

>With Windows, unless you have a volume license pack, you're only allowed to
>have one installation on a single computer. Multiple installations using
>the same product key without a volume license is considered piracy and is
>usually prevented.

You are an idiot.

I have an MSDN Pro subscription that allows me to download and install any
OS (Vista of any hue, XP, WinSer2003, WinSer2008, etc, etc, etc, any
DevStudios, SPs, SDKs, etc. etc etc.) on multiple computers as long as it is
for my private office or home and not for sale.

You understand it IDIOT, multiple times. I installed Vista Ultimate at least
15 times since August 15 partly because of bad installs and crashes (my own
ignorance) but I ended up with about 6 Vistas on 3 machine. Now I have one
more Vista with OEM.

Again, you, cretin, I can do multiple INSTALLS, LEGALLY.

Oh, sh*it, he pasted an XP EULA!!!!!!! Cretinism has no bounds. Another
MICHAEL is born.

You are a scummy crook and an idiot.

Have you, idiot ever heard of MSDN Professional Subscription?

"jxzkzwdlq" <> wrote in message
news:47a7b4d2$0$26059$.. .
> you cannot install Vista twice on the same PC without 2 licenses. Its
> always been that way with all
> versions of windows. This applies also to virtual machines with some
> exceptions made.
> Only two retail version of Windows Vista are licensed for use as a guest
> OS in a VM: Windows Vista Business and Ultimate
>
> With Windows, unless you have a volume license pack, you're only allowed
> to have one installation on a single computer. Multiple installations
> using the same product key without a volume license is considered piracy
> and is usually prevented. (When you register, your computer's hardware is
> logged so it's only licensed for that machine and cannot be registered on
> any other.)
>
> Here's a excerpt from the Windows XP EULA:
> "1. GRANT OF LICENSE.
> Microsoft grants you the following rights provided that you comply with
> all terms and conditions of this EULA:
> 1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access, display and run
> one copy of the Software on a single computer, such as a workstation,
> terminal or other device ("Workstation Computer"). The Software may not be
> used by more than two (2) processors at any one time on any single
> Workstation Computer.
>
> 1.2 Mandatory Activation. The license rights granted under this EULA are
> limited to the first thirty (30) days after you first install the Software
> unless you supply information required to activate your licensed copy in
> the manner described during the setup sequence of the Software. You can
> activate the Software through the use of the Internet or telephone; toll
> charges may apply. You may also need to reactivate the Software if you
> modify your computer hardware or alter the Software. There are
> technological measures in this Software that are designed to prevent
> unlicensed use of the Software. Microsoft will use those measures to
> confirm you have a legally licensed copy of the Software. If you are not
> using a licensed copy of the Software, you are not allowed to install the
> Software or future Software updates. Microsoft will not collect any
> personally identifiable information from your Workstation Computer during
> this process."
>
>
>
> "AlexB" <> wrote in message
> news:uG0f%...
>> It is a bunch of interesting questions.
>>
>> What you can do is to try to close some of the routine services that
>> start at startup. There is a concept of vLite, that is Vista with some
>> services turned off. MS does not recommend to do it but they actually
>> mean that when those services are turned off they cannot guarantee if the
>> upgrades would do normal job. Thus you can bypass that by restarting
>> those services manually when you do your upgrades.
>>
>> Yes, I think you can define user services per user account.
>>
>> Your design to have another partition seems cumbersome and not workable.
>> First MS will balk at your using this disk again with the same product
>> key. Secondly I do not know how large is you HDD. You may limit
>> yourselves significantly with partitioning. Running two OS is not easy on
>> one computer.
>>
>> I have a few machines with two or three OS I installed while trying to
>> choose what the best setup was but I regularly use only one OS and when I
>> go to the second one it is always a lot of trouble. I sometimes have to
>> wait until all upgrades are downloaded and installed with the machine
>> restarted because I did it last time months ago. Forget it. It is not
>> practical.
>>
>> "zampoo" <> wrote in message
>> news:F021E0AA-D3E1-4F78-9C25-...
>>> In some applications (sonar6 +plugins) my notebook seems to run out of
>>> processing power. I have a Packard Bell with 2GB and T5500 processor and
>>> Vista Home premium. I do not have an installation disk. My question is;
>>> if I
>>> make a new partition on my harddisk can I install Vista again on that
>>> partition with a repair disk and if I run it with minimal services would
>>> it
>>> help?
>>> Or can I define Vista services per useraccount?
>>> Would a 64 bit version of Vista enhance my processing power?
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

Hello, the OP most likely does not have an MSDN Pro subscription that is a
unique case, not a normal user

If the OP is a normal user not an MSDN subscrinber or a have a volume
liscence the same restrictions apply to XP and to Vista, only one install
per PC. It was the same with win2000, 98, 95...

"AlexB" <> wrote in message news:...
>>With Windows, unless you have a volume license pack, you're only allowed to have one
>>installation on a single computer. Multiple installations using the same product key without
>>a volume license is considered piracy and is usually prevented.
>
> You are an idiot.
>
> I have an MSDN Pro subscription that allows me to download and install any OS (Vista of any
> hue, XP, WinSer2003, WinSer2008, etc, etc, etc, any DevStudios, SPs, SDKs, etc. etc etc.) on
> multiple computers as long as it is for my private office or home and not for sale.
>
> You understand it IDIOT, multiple times. I installed Vista Ultimate at least 15 times since
> August 15 partly because of bad installs and crashes (my own ignorance) but I ended up with
> about 6 Vistas on 3 machine. Now I have one more Vista with OEM.
>
> Again, you, cretin, I can do multiple INSTALLS, LEGALLY.

You are the idiot and the *crook*.

You are only allowed to use your MSDN subscription software
for testing and development. *Not* every day or normal usage.
*Not* for your secretary or any other employees, friends or family-
only *you* can use it. And *only* for testing purposes. You are *not*
supposed to use the software your personal every day use.
You are the crook. You have violated your agreement.

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-Michael