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jm7
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      10-20-2006
From reading the posts here I have gleaned that you need a 3rd party program
to create a partition before you can do a dual boot with XP and VISTA.

I currently have XP on a single physical drive C:

Would Acronis True Image do the trick to create the partition? I have read
in other posts that the VISTA DVD has the partitioning tools in it. or are
there some free partitioning tools I can use?

Thanks in advance.


 
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Jimmy Brush
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      10-20-2006
Hello,

Do NOT use Acronis to format the Vista partition - its formatting is not
compatible with Vista.

Windows Vista comes with a built-in tool that you may use to partition free
space and delete/format partitions. If you need to shrink/expand/split
partitions, you will need to use a third party tool.

You can access the Vista tools durring setup when it asks you which
partition to install to - just click the Advanced button.

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jm7
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      10-20-2006
Thanks Jim,

Will what you suggested allow a dual boot with XP and Vista?

I have downloaded the VistaBoot program.

I take it/guess the steps are :

1. Either install from within XP or boot from DVD (which is better?)
2. Create partition on C Drive from Vista's own tools - will it create a
Primary partition?
3. Boot into Vista - run VistaBoot - to setup Dual boot?

The thing that has confused me is the advice that Vista's tools won't create
a primary partition on C Drive when XP is already setup and that Vista's own
tools won't allow dual booting.

I have aso read you increase memory by attaching USB drives - has this
feature been implemented in RC1 or is it just a rumour?

I appreciate your help here.

John


 
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John Barnett
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      10-20-2006
Create a partition from Windows XP then install Vista to the new partition.
I'm triple booting XP Home, XP Pro and Vista and always create partitions
from within Windows XP.

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"jm7" <> wrote in message
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> From reading the posts here I have gleaned that you need a 3rd party
> program to create a partition before you can do a dual boot with XP and
> VISTA.
>
> I currently have XP on a single physical drive C:
>
> Would Acronis True Image do the trick to create the partition? I have
> read in other posts that the VISTA DVD has the partitioning tools in it.
> or are there some free partitioning tools I can use?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>


 
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jm7
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      10-20-2006
Thanks John,

But my C drive is fully formatted so I guess this is why XP Pro cannot
create a new partition as there is no free space or unallocated space.

I wonder if the VISTA DVD will create a partition in the spare space of my
fully formatted C Drive.

John


 
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Kerry Brown
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      10-21-2006
I've tried True Image Workstation 9.1 a couple of time to move Vista to a
different hard drive and had no problems. I always boot from the Acronis
recovery CD and image or clone from there. What problems are people seeing?

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Jimmy Brush wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Do NOT use Acronis to format the Vista partition - its formatting is
> not compatible with Vista.
>
> Windows Vista comes with a built-in tool that you may use to
> partition free space and delete/format partitions. If you need to
> shrink/expand/split partitions, you will need to use a third party
> tool.
> You can access the Vista tools durring setup when it asks you which
> partition to install to - just click the Advanced button.



 
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John Barnett MVP
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      10-21-2006
No it won't. What you need to do is 'shrink' your C: partition to create
some unallocated space for another partition to be created. You can either
use a third party partitioning application such as Partition magic, or
Paragon Partition manager. The Vista DVD can extend a partition, but not, as
far as i know, shrink it. However, i believe you you can shrink a partition
from within the vista operating system, via disk managment. However this is
no good to you as you currently can't install vista. i suggest you use
something like Partition Magic or Paragon to shrink the partition.

My system has recovery disks and i have this same problem whenever i
re-install. XP always takes up all the hard drive space and i have to use
paragon to shrink the main partition contianing XP (usually down to 20GB) to
allow me plenty of space to creat further partitions.

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"jm7" <> wrote in message
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> Thanks John,
>
> But my C drive is fully formatted so I guess this is why XP Pro cannot
> create a new partition as there is no free space or unallocated space.
>
> I wonder if the VISTA DVD will create a partition in the spare space of my
> fully formatted C Drive.
>
> John
>
>



 
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Jimmy Brush
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      10-22-2006
<snip>
> I've tried True Image Workstation 9.1 a couple of time to move Vista to a
> different hard drive and had no problems. I always boot from the Acronis
> recovery CD and image or clone from there. What problems are people
> seeing?


The problem is the way Acronis formats NTFS. If you don't do anything that
actually formats a partition, it should be OK - but Windows Vista does not
like the way Acronis formats NTFS partitions.


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Jimmy Brush
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      10-22-2006
<snip>
> Will what you suggested allow a dual boot with XP and Vista?


Hello,

No, not in your case - I didn't realize your hard drive was already full
partitioned. Please follow John's instructions.

> I have aso read you increase memory by attaching USB drives - has this
> feature been implemented in RC1 or is it just a rumour?


This feature is called ReadyBoost and does work in RC1. Simply plug in a
good-quality memory stick and Windows will ask if you wish to enable this
feature.


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Jimmy Brush
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      10-22-2006
Specifically, users that format their Vista partition using Acronis end up
seeing chkdsk being run every time they reboot into XP and/or Vista, and
their event log gets filled with entries from the NTFS driver talking about
internal data structures being foobar'd.


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