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Martin
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      02-14-2008
I paid for an Eraser called East-Tec Eraser, but now I have read about the
dangers of using Registry cleaners (and drive cleaners), I now wonder if it
is safe to use erasers? I am using Vista Ultimate OS.
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Meinolf Weber
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      02-14-2008
Hello Martin,

Of course it is dangerous to use them. These kind of tools does NOT know
whats going on in windows operating system. They just scan the registry and
pops up with there "feelings". If you use them and your system will not startup
any longer it is YOUR fault not there's and REALLY NOT from MICROSOFT.

In your car you also do not remove thinks from the engine, because somebody
told you, OR DO YOU??????

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> I paid for an Eraser called East-Tec Eraser, but now I have read about
> the dangers of using Registry cleaners (and drive cleaners), I now
> wonder if it is safe to use erasers? I am using Vista Ultimate OS.
>



 
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Martin
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      02-14-2008
Thanks for your thoughts. It sounds as tho' you are talking about the
registry cleaners etc. What I am especially interested in is the
applications like East-Tec. They say that it will keep what you do on your
PC to yourself and protect your privacy. Do you know about these?
Thanks.
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"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello Martin,
>
> Of course it is dangerous to use them. These kind of tools does NOT know
> whats going on in windows operating system. They just scan the registry and
> pops up with there "feelings". If you use them and your system will not startup
> any longer it is YOUR fault not there's and REALLY NOT from MICROSOFT.
>
> In your car you also do not remove thinks from the engine, because somebody
> told you, OR DO YOU??????
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
> > I paid for an Eraser called East-Tec Eraser, but now I have read about
> > the dangers of using Registry cleaners (and drive cleaners), I now
> > wonder if it is safe to use erasers? I am using Vista Ultimate OS.
> >

>
>
>

 
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HeyBub
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      02-14-2008
Martin wrote:
> Thanks for your thoughts. It sounds as tho' you are talking about the
> registry cleaners etc. What I am especially interested in is the
> applications like East-Tec. They say that it will keep what you do
> on your PC to yourself and protect your privacy. Do you know about
> these?
> Thanks.
>


East-tec seems to be a file eraser. I'll bet what it does is over-write
files with garbage to prevent forensic experts from determining what was
there, coupled with some degree of automation.

File erasers are a dime a dozen and lots of them are free.

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to hide.

If you DO have something to hide, there are only two ways to do so:

1. Strong encryption - but you CAN be forced to reveal the encryption key,
or
2. Physically destroying the hard drive (fire, armor-piercing bullet, band
saw, etc.)


 
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the wharf rat
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      02-14-2008
In article <>,
HeyBub <> wrote:
>
>1. Strong encryption - but you CAN be forced to reveal the encryption key,


No. You can't be forced to reveal a key because it's covered by
the 5th Amendment. Physical torture works on some people though.

BTW, since you have nothing to hide can I get a copy of your
inbox? I'd like to print it out and tack it up on telephone poles.

 
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Martin
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      02-14-2008
For Hey Bub
Thanks.
I have only been using this application because it seems to clean clutter
and drastically improves the space on my hard drive (ie several GBs). I
presume this is because it destroys endless backups (or images). In the past
(on XP) I could remove old backups from System Restore, but I can't in Vista.
In Vista they seem to take up so much memory! All I really want to keep are
the recent backups.
Martin


"HeyBub" wrote:

> Martin wrote:
> > Thanks for your thoughts. It sounds as tho' you are talking about the
> > registry cleaners etc. What I am especially interested in is the
> > applications like East-Tec. They say that it will keep what you do
> > on your PC to yourself and protect your privacy. Do you know about
> > these?
> > Thanks.
> >

>
> East-tec seems to be a file eraser. I'll bet what it does is over-write
> files with garbage to prevent forensic experts from determining what was
> there, coupled with some degree of automation.
>
> File erasers are a dime a dozen and lots of them are free.
>
> If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to hide.
>
> If you DO have something to hide, there are only two ways to do so:
>
> 1. Strong encryption - but you CAN be forced to reveal the encryption key,
> or
> 2. Physically destroying the hard drive (fire, armor-piercing bullet, band
> saw, etc.)
>
>
>

 
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Martin
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      02-14-2008
For The wharf Rat
LOL!!! Thanks. What I really need is a SAFE way to get rid of alot of
clutter.
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"the wharf rat" wrote:

> In article <>,
> HeyBub <> wrote:
> >
> >1. Strong encryption - but you CAN be forced to reveal the encryption key,

>
> No. You can't be forced to reveal a key because it's covered by
> the 5th Amendment. Physical torture works on some people though.
>
> BTW, since you have nothing to hide can I get a copy of your
> inbox? I'd like to print it out and tack it up on telephone poles.
>
>

 
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John E
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      02-14-2008
"Martin" <> wrote in message
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> For The wharf Rat
> LOL!!! Thanks. What I really need is a SAFE way to get rid of alot of
> clutter.
> --
> Martin



Try this one: http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/

Free and works with Vista and vista x64 (mostly).

John

 
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Mark R. Cusumano
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      02-14-2008
"the wharf rat" <> wrote in message
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> In article <>,
> HeyBub <> wrote:
>>
>>1. Strong encryption - but you CAN be forced to reveal the encryption key,

>
> No. You can't be forced to reveal a key because it's covered by
> the 5th Amendment. Physical torture works on some people though.


Actually there is a case currently in the courts where the FBI is trying to
compel someone to reveal their encryption key. The argument basically
states that since the government can subpoena someone to surrender a
physical key they should be able to issue the same type of subpoena for a
memorized key. Currently if you have your key written down and locked in a
safe you can be compelled to surrender the document. The question becomes
is the court willing to call a memorized key testimony or evidence.

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Daze N. Knights
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      02-14-2008
Try the Delete key. ;-)

Martin wrote:
> For The wharf Rat
> LOL!!! Thanks. What I really need is a SAFE way to get rid of alot of
> clutter.

 
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