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"uvbogden" <> wrote in message news  81B9DFC-31A8-4AD4-AE0F-...> Broken install and incomplete uninstall debris elicits any number of error > messages which may not reveal the actual cause of the dysfunction. Possibly. But possibly I can teach my cat to tap dance. We're quickly wandering into speculation and taking drastic actions against that speculation based upon what is apparently a missing .NET framework element. I think your "cure" here is probably going to be worse than the problem is. Just step back and let iTunes support sort this out. =) > If MSFT had designed a more > robust installer/uninstaller (or for that matter a more robust OS) that > actually did its job, we wouldn't be forced to correct these problems > ourselves by entering "dangerous" registry territory. Windows Installer (MSI) is generally and specifically meant to fill this role. > For most of us (in the > Communities), the alternative to seeking for and applying fixes for Vista > is > to be resigned to a broken computer. This is unacceptable. I thought we talking specifically about an iTunes failure here? Having personally worked with the developers at Apple, I can't imagine that they're too dense to sort this out if given the chance. > Ideally, MSFT would provide real Support for their product during its > lifetime. This, as per thread title, is apparently a problem with iTunes, right? I'm certain we could have an engaging discussion about supporting ultrawide distribution operating systems running on ultrawide varieties of hardware with ultrawide varieties of software installed to the system. =) > In reality this is not the case. MSFT technical support of Vista > is a virtual black hole that swallows up the universe and everything > disappears (including your money) without a trace. The Help & Support > that > comes with Vista, or that available online is superficial and rarely > covers > any of the serious issues encountered. I don't know of any serious common issues that are omitted from important references. Exact references are always useful, but that seems a conversation outside the bounds of this iTunes focused conversation. =) > Searches of the Knowledge Base are > rarely fruitful. There may be some helpful information there (mostly for > XP), but finding what you need for Vista is next to impossible. The KB is indeed built up over time, just as it was done for XP. Exact and specific feedback is important to that. > And when there's a Windows > Update that screws up your computer and everyone's screaming in capital > letters for help, MSFT is mute. Where are they "screaming"? Actual technical support-- http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#psssupport should be helpful. The newsgroups, as is explicitly mentioned in the Newsgroups Code of Conduct, are not a Microsoft support channel-- http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#netiquette and expecting them to be such is dangerously misguided. I want things to work for you. If you have actual problems, please take them to the right place. > Of course, you can always pay the big bucks > and get help with a single problem very readily. However, after already > paying the big bucks to buy Vista, few are willing to shell out more for > support that should be there, at no cost, just because you bought the > product. I was under the impression that you got "N" number of support incidents with your purchase? -Zach -- Speaking for myself only. See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. |
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My belief is that there is no missing .NET component and that reinstalling it
will not solve the iTunes install problem. This belief can be confirmed by trying your recommended fix; if that works, more power to you. I don't believe you can teach your cat to tap dance. Third-party software companies are, in fact, recommending taking additional steps beyond Vista Uninstall to clean up program remnants allowing for a proper install (see links below). http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305409 http://kb.roxio.com/content/kb/Creator/000127CR "zachd [MSFT]" wrote: > > "uvbogden" <> wrote in message > news 81B9DFC-31A8-4AD4-AE0F-...> > Broken install and incomplete uninstall debris elicits any number of error > > messages which may not reveal the actual cause of the dysfunction. > > Possibly. But possibly I can teach my cat to tap dance. We're quickly > wandering into speculation and taking drastic actions against that > speculation based upon what is apparently a missing .NET framework element. > I think your "cure" here is probably going to be worse than the problem is. > Just step back and let iTunes support sort this out. =) > > > If MSFT had designed a more > > robust installer/uninstaller (or for that matter a more robust OS) that > > actually did its job, we wouldn't be forced to correct these problems > > ourselves by entering "dangerous" registry territory. > > Windows Installer (MSI) is generally and specifically meant to fill this > role. > > > For most of us (in the > > Communities), the alternative to seeking for and applying fixes for Vista > > is > > to be resigned to a broken computer. This is unacceptable. > > I thought we talking specifically about an iTunes failure here? Having > personally worked with the developers at Apple, I can't imagine that they're > too dense to sort this out if given the chance. > > > Ideally, MSFT would provide real Support for their product during its > > lifetime. > > This, as per thread title, is apparently a problem with iTunes, right? I'm > certain we could have an engaging discussion about supporting ultrawide > distribution operating systems running on ultrawide varieties of hardware > with ultrawide varieties of software installed to the system. =) > > > In reality this is not the case. MSFT technical support of Vista > > is a virtual black hole that swallows up the universe and everything > > disappears (including your money) without a trace. The Help & Support > > that > > comes with Vista, or that available online is superficial and rarely > > covers > > any of the serious issues encountered. > > I don't know of any serious common issues that are omitted from important > references. Exact references are always useful, but that seems a > conversation outside the bounds of this iTunes focused conversation. =) > > > Searches of the Knowledge Base are > > rarely fruitful. There may be some helpful information there (mostly for > > XP), but finding what you need for Vista is next to impossible. > > The KB is indeed built up over time, just as it was done for XP. Exact and > specific feedback is important to that. > > > And when there's a Windows > > Update that screws up your computer and everyone's screaming in capital > > letters for help, MSFT is mute. > > Where are they "screaming"? Actual technical support-- > http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#psssupport > should be helpful. The newsgroups, as is explicitly mentioned in the > Newsgroups Code of Conduct, are not a Microsoft support channel-- > http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#netiquette > and expecting them to be such is dangerously misguided. > > I want things to work for you. If you have actual problems, please take > them to the right place. > > > Of course, you can always pay the big bucks > > and get help with a single problem very readily. However, after already > > paying the big bucks to buy Vista, few are willing to shell out more for > > support that should be there, at no cost, just because you bought the > > product. > > I was under the impression that you got "N" number of support incidents with > your purchase? > > -Zach > -- > Speaking for myself only. > See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info. > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > |
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My cat's awesome. You'd be surprised. The original error 0x800736b3 is "Error: The referenced side by side assembly is not installed." Since that's from the SXS error set, I'm queasily standing behind the notion that this is a .NET Framework related issue. Hopefully Apple fixes up their uninstaller for v.next. =) -- Speaking for myself only. See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -- "uvbogden" <> wrote in message news:6BC17DA1-639F-4214-A9AC-... > My belief is that there is no missing .NET component and that reinstalling > it > will not solve the iTunes install problem. This belief can be confirmed > by > trying your recommended fix; if that works, more power to you. I don't > believe you can teach your cat to tap dance. Third-party software > companies > are, in fact, recommending taking additional steps beyond Vista Uninstall > to > clean up program remnants allowing for a proper install (see links below). > > http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305409 > > http://kb.roxio.com/content/kb/Creator/000127CR > > > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote: > >> > >> "uvbogden" <> wrote in message >> news 81B9DFC-31A8-4AD4-AE0F-...>> > Broken install and incomplete uninstall debris elicits any number of >> > error >> > messages which may not reveal the actual cause of the dysfunction. >> >> Possibly. But possibly I can teach my cat to tap dance. We're quickly >> wandering into speculation and taking drastic actions against that >> speculation based upon what is apparently a missing .NET framework >> element. >> I think your "cure" here is probably going to be worse than the problem >> is. >> Just step back and let iTunes support sort this out. =) >> >> > If MSFT had designed a more >> > robust installer/uninstaller (or for that matter a more robust OS) that >> > actually did its job, we wouldn't be forced to correct these problems >> > ourselves by entering "dangerous" registry territory. >> >> Windows Installer (MSI) is generally and specifically meant to fill this >> role. >> >> > For most of us (in the >> > Communities), the alternative to seeking for and applying fixes for >> > Vista >> > is >> > to be resigned to a broken computer. This is unacceptable. >> >> I thought we talking specifically about an iTunes failure here? Having >> personally worked with the developers at Apple, I can't imagine that >> they're >> too dense to sort this out if given the chance. >> >> > Ideally, MSFT would provide real Support for their product during its >> > lifetime. >> >> This, as per thread title, is apparently a problem with iTunes, right? >> I'm >> certain we could have an engaging discussion about supporting ultrawide >> distribution operating systems running on ultrawide varieties of hardware >> with ultrawide varieties of software installed to the system. =) >> >> > In reality this is not the case. MSFT technical support of Vista >> > is a virtual black hole that swallows up the universe and everything >> > disappears (including your money) without a trace. The Help & Support >> > that >> > comes with Vista, or that available online is superficial and rarely >> > covers >> > any of the serious issues encountered. >> >> I don't know of any serious common issues that are omitted from important >> references. Exact references are always useful, but that seems a >> conversation outside the bounds of this iTunes focused conversation. =) >> >> > Searches of the Knowledge Base are >> > rarely fruitful. There may be some helpful information there (mostly >> > for >> > XP), but finding what you need for Vista is next to impossible. >> >> The KB is indeed built up over time, just as it was done for XP. Exact >> and >> specific feedback is important to that. >> >> > And when there's a Windows >> > Update that screws up your computer and everyone's screaming in capital >> > letters for help, MSFT is mute. >> >> Where are they "screaming"? Actual technical support-- >> http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#psssupport >> should be helpful. The newsgroups, as is explicitly mentioned in the >> Newsgroups Code of Conduct, are not a Microsoft support channel-- >> http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#netiquette >> and expecting them to be such is dangerously misguided. >> >> I want things to work for you. If you have actual problems, please take >> them to the right place. >> >> > Of course, you can always pay the big bucks >> > and get help with a single problem very readily. However, after >> > already >> > paying the big bucks to buy Vista, few are willing to shell out more >> > for >> > support that should be there, at no cost, just because you bought the >> > product. >> >> I was under the impression that you got "N" number of support incidents >> with >> your purchase? >> >> -Zach >> -- >> Speaking for myself only. >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info. >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights. >> >> >> |
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Apple seems to be purposely developing iTunes badly so it installs and
uninstalls sloppy on Windows to make a point in their favor. -- Andre Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com My Vista Quickstart Guide: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry "zachd [MSFT]" <> wrote in message news:%... > > My cat's awesome. You'd be surprised. > > The original error 0x800736b3 is "Error: The referenced side by side > assembly is not > installed." Since that's from the SXS error set, I'm queasily standing > behind the notion that this is a .NET Framework related issue. > > Hopefully Apple fixes up their uninstaller for v.next. =) > > -- > Speaking for myself only. > See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info. > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. > -- > "uvbogden" <> wrote in message > news:6BC17DA1-639F-4214-A9AC-... >> My belief is that there is no missing .NET component and that >> reinstalling it >> will not solve the iTunes install problem. This belief can be confirmed >> by >> trying your recommended fix; if that works, more power to you. I don't >> believe you can teach your cat to tap dance. Third-party software >> companies >> are, in fact, recommending taking additional steps beyond Vista Uninstall >> to >> clean up program remnants allowing for a proper install (see links >> below). >> >> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305409 >> >> http://kb.roxio.com/content/kb/Creator/000127CR >> >> >> "zachd [MSFT]" wrote: >> >>> >> >>> "uvbogden" <> wrote in message >>> news 81B9DFC-31A8-4AD4-AE0F-...>>> > Broken install and incomplete uninstall debris elicits any number of >>> > error >>> > messages which may not reveal the actual cause of the dysfunction. >>> >>> Possibly. But possibly I can teach my cat to tap dance. We're quickly >>> wandering into speculation and taking drastic actions against that >>> speculation based upon what is apparently a missing .NET framework >>> element. >>> I think your "cure" here is probably going to be worse than the problem >>> is. >>> Just step back and let iTunes support sort this out. =) >>> >>> > If MSFT had designed a more >>> > robust installer/uninstaller (or for that matter a more robust OS) >>> > that >>> > actually did its job, we wouldn't be forced to correct these problems >>> > ourselves by entering "dangerous" registry territory. >>> >>> Windows Installer (MSI) is generally and specifically meant to fill this >>> role. >>> >>> > For most of us (in the >>> > Communities), the alternative to seeking for and applying fixes for >>> > Vista >>> > is >>> > to be resigned to a broken computer. This is unacceptable. >>> >>> I thought we talking specifically about an iTunes failure here? Having >>> personally worked with the developers at Apple, I can't imagine that >>> they're >>> too dense to sort this out if given the chance. >>> >>> > Ideally, MSFT would provide real Support for their product during its >>> > lifetime. >>> >>> This, as per thread title, is apparently a problem with iTunes, right? >>> I'm >>> certain we could have an engaging discussion about supporting ultrawide >>> distribution operating systems running on ultrawide varieties of >>> hardware >>> with ultrawide varieties of software installed to the system. =) >>> >>> > In reality this is not the case. MSFT technical support of Vista >>> > is a virtual black hole that swallows up the universe and everything >>> > disappears (including your money) without a trace. The Help & Support >>> > that >>> > comes with Vista, or that available online is superficial and rarely >>> > covers >>> > any of the serious issues encountered. >>> >>> I don't know of any serious common issues that are omitted from >>> important >>> references. Exact references are always useful, but that seems a >>> conversation outside the bounds of this iTunes focused conversation. =) >>> >>> > Searches of the Knowledge Base are >>> > rarely fruitful. There may be some helpful information there (mostly >>> > for >>> > XP), but finding what you need for Vista is next to impossible. >>> >>> The KB is indeed built up over time, just as it was done for XP. Exact >>> and >>> specific feedback is important to that. >>> >>> > And when there's a Windows >>> > Update that screws up your computer and everyone's screaming in >>> > capital >>> > letters for help, MSFT is mute. >>> >>> Where are they "screaming"? Actual technical support-- >>> http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#psssupport >>> should be helpful. The newsgroups, as is explicitly mentioned in the >>> Newsgroups Code of Conduct, are not a Microsoft support channel-- >>> http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#netiquette >>> and expecting them to be such is dangerously misguided. >>> >>> I want things to work for you. If you have actual problems, please take >>> them to the right place. >>> >>> > Of course, you can always pay the big bucks >>> > and get help with a single problem very readily. However, after >>> > already >>> > paying the big bucks to buy Vista, few are willing to shell out more >>> > for >>> > support that should be there, at no cost, just because you bought the >>> > product. >>> >>> I was under the impression that you got "N" number of support incidents >>> with >>> your purchase? >>> >>> -Zach >>> -- >>> Speaking for myself only. >>> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info. >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >>> rights. >>> >>> >>> > > |
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