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I get this error when I am trying to update windows XP. i have searched on
this forum, enterd cmd prompt, entered proxycfg . it says no proxy detected.
But yet my update does not work. I have zone alarm fireball installed, it has
been working fine so far. I have win XP SP2.

If you did not suspect the firewall you would have spelled it correctly, so
I suggest you activate the Windows firewall via the security center in
control panel, uninstall the zone alarm firewall which will cause a reboot,
and see if that lets you get updates. If it doesn't, post that it didn't. If
it
does, either find out what was wrong or get a different firewall.
Hint: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sygate

"Dr Alok Modi MD" <> wrote in message
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> I get this error when I am trying to update windows XP. i have searched on
> this forum, enterd cmd prompt, entered proxycfg . it says no proxy
> detected.
> But yet my update does not work. I have zone alarm fireball installed, it
> has
> been working fine so far. I have win XP SP2.

"Michael Jennings" <> schrieb:

> either find out what was wrong or get a different firewall.

Why not the firewall included in Windows already?
*No* personal firewall software can block unwanted *outgoing* traffic
from the host it's running on reliably/savely (nor is it needed in case
you'll inform yourself about the applications you're running on your
system or are willing to before installing them). The Windows Firewall
coming with Windows XP prevents unwanted *incoming* traffic savely.
http://www.pcflank.com/art21.htm is still up to date like
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rema...,1%7Emode=flat
http://samspade.org/d/firewalls.html

Bye,
Freudi

"Ottmar Freudenberger" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "Michael Jennings" <> schrieb:
>
>> either find out what was wrong or get a different firewall.
>
> Why not the firewall included in Windows already?
> *No* personal firewall software can block unwanted *outgoing* traffic
> from the host it's running on reliably/safely (nor is it needed in case
> you'll inform yourself about the applications you're running on your
> system or are willing to before installing them). The Windows Firewall
> coming with Windows XP prevents unwanted *incoming* traffic safely.
> http://www.pcflank.com/art21.htm is still up to date like
> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rema...,1%7Emode=flat
> http://samspade.org/d/firewalls.html

Well, I'll try to explain my feelings about that, Freudi.

Before they were snuffed by Symantec, Sygate improved to catch the
Too Leaky test and that 5.6 version 2808 is still out there at no charge.
It makes me feel better when it blocks outgoing Windows stuff I don't
feel like allowing. The Windows firewall will not do that. If Microsoft
were incapable of being sneaky and underhanded I would be content
to do without the ability to block outbound. It would be better to have
an appliance, rather than a broadband router and software firewall, but
I'm not quite ready to be so thorough. Maybe I should rethink that.

I did tell the OP to turn on the Windows firewall before uninstalling ZA.

"Michael Jennings" <> schrieb:

> It makes me feel better when it blocks outgoing Windows stuff I don't
> feel like allowing.

*Feelings* are anything but secure(ing the system).

Bye,
Freudi

"Ottmar Freudenberger" <> wrote in message
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> "Michael Jennings" <> schrieb:
>
>> It makes me feel better when it blocks outgoing Windows stuff I don't
>> feel like allowing.
>
> *Feelings* are anything but secure(ing the system).

What your link http://samspade.org/d/firewalls.html recommends
is a cheap single purpose dual homed host running BSD and ipf.
Darren Reed's Internet Protocol Filter (ipf) is a firewall:
http://www.lindloff.com/deipf-howto.txt
Is this also your recommendation to home computer users?

A clean reinstall of Windows flushes out accumulated crap.
I tend to recommend that, and the NAT router samspade suggests
for those disinclined to get involved with ipf, his first recommendation
http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip-filter.html
which is a professional approach requiring time and attention.

As to the software firewall, despite the NAT router, there are packets
that the Sygate firewall blocks or questions - like those leak tests at
http://www.pcflank.com/art21.htm
The Windows XP firewall can't pass any of those tests. Perhaps the
Vista firewall could if tediously adjusted off default pass all outbound.

Default is fine if practices are perfect and Microsoft is trustworthy.
Since I am not perfect, and regard the world as being somewhat
imperfect, I don't think default pass all outbound is fine.

"Michael Jennings" <> schrieb:

> What your link http://samspade.org/d/firewalls.html recommends
> is a cheap single purpose dual homed host running BSD and ipf.
> Darren Reed's Internet Protocol Filter (ipf) is a firewall:
> http://www.lindloff.com/deipf-howto.txt
> Is this also your recommendation to home computer users?

Nope.

> A clean reinstall of Windows flushes out accumulated crap.

Please specify "accumalted crap".

> As to the software firewall, despite the NAT router, there are packets
> that the Sygate firewall blocks or questions -

And the average user is able to decide whether the packet is unwanted or
needed? One again: Malware is able to bypass *any* PFS which is running
on the very same host. It's *useless* to try to control *outgoing* traffic
whith a Personal Firwall Software.

> Since I am not perfect, and regard the world as being somewhat
> imperfect, I don't think default pass all outbound is fine.

It is. Otherwise you're running unwanted software on your machine. In
this case get rid of the software or have a look into the configuration
of those and/or contact the vendor.

Bye,
Freudi

Do I really need to uninstall zone alarm ? I a ma loyal user of zone alarm
for 2 years.
Dr Alok Modi MD

"Ottmar Freudenberger" wrote:

> "Michael Jennings" <> schrieb:
>
> > What your link http://samspade.org/d/firewalls.html recommends
> > is a cheap single purpose dual homed host running BSD and ipf.
> > Darren Reed's Internet Protocol Filter (ipf) is a firewall:
> > http://www.lindloff.com/deipf-howto.txt
> > Is this also your recommendation to home computer users?
>
> Nope.
>
> > A clean reinstall of Windows flushes out accumulated crap.
>
> Please specify "accumalted crap".
>
> > As to the software firewall, despite the NAT router, there are packets
> > that the Sygate firewall blocks or questions -
>
> And the average user is able to decide whether the packet is unwanted or
> needed? One again: Malware is able to bypass *any* PFS which is running
> on the very same host. It's *useless* to try to control *outgoing* traffic
> whith a Personal Firwall Software.
>
> > Since I am not perfect, and regard the world as being somewhat
> > imperfect, I don't think default pass all outbound is fine.
>
> It is. Otherwise you're running unwanted software on your machine. In
> this case get rid of the software or have a look into the configuration
> of those and/or contact the vendor.
>
> Bye,
> Freudi
>

"Ottmar Freudenberger" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "Michael Jennings" <> schrieb:
>
>> What your link http://samspade.org/d/firewalls.html recommends
>> is a cheap single purpose dual homed host running BSD and ipf.
>> Darren Reed's Internet Protocol Filter (ipf) is a firewall:
>> http://www.lindloff.com/deipf-howto.txt
>> Is this also your recommendation to home computer users?
>
> Nope.

Well, you've got an on-topic question from Dr Alok Modi MD who
wants to know how to get WU working. He seems to not want to
follow my suggestion and try uninstalling Zone Alarm. Your advice?

>> A clean reinstall of Windows flushes out accumulated crap.
>
> Please specify "accumulated crap".

Just let your imagination run wild - it can't be that bad.

>> As to the software firewall, despite the NAT router, there are packets
>> that the Sygate firewall blocks or questions -
>
> And the average user is able to decide whether the packet is unwanted or
> needed? One again: Malware is able to bypass *any* PFS which is running
> on the very same host. It's *useless* to try to control *outgoing* traffic
> with a Personal Firewall Software.

Most of that stuff isn't so very clever - it gets caught. If I'm not howling
at
a sysadmin what is *this?* (I'm not) then I'm not an annoyance due to it.

>> Since I am not perfect, and regard the world as being somewhat
>> imperfect, I don't think default pass all outbound is fine.
>
> It is. Otherwise you're running unwanted software on your machine. In
> this case get rid of the software or have a look into the configuration
> of those and/or contact the vendor.

Thanks to you, Freudi, I was able to get rid of WGAN, but before I used
your script to uninstall it, the outgoing firewall stopped it from calling
home.
Being alerted to the presence of unwanted software need not be useless
provided (as you demand) effective action is taken to eliminate it.

"Dr Alok Modi MD" <> schrieb:

> Do I really need to uninstall zone alarm ?

As it's a potential cause for the system preventing updates to be
installed correctly, yes, I recommend that. Enable the Windows
Firewall instead.

Bye,
Freudi