eSATA drive problem

I have an eSATA drive formatted NTFS from my XP installation.

Drive works fine from either XP or Linux (multi-boot machine)

I had previously tried Vista on the machine but it saw the eSATA drive
as unformatted. Gave the message "Do you want to format this drive?"

Very dangerous as an unknowing person may have actually formatted the
drive and lost all their data.

Interestingly enough, any time I've tried to access the drive,
Vista ran a chkdsk on it at the next boot up.

CHKDSK from Vista saw it fine and reported no errors

but could not read the drive once booted to the desktop.


I eventually gave up on Vista and just did a Win7 install yesterday.

Problem was identical!

"philo" wrote:

> I have an eSATA drive formatted NTFS from my XP installation.
>
> Drive works fine from either XP or Linux (multi-boot machine)
>
> I had previously tried Vista on the machine but it saw the eSATA drive
> as unformatted. Gave the message "Do you want to format this drive?"
>

Did you try formatting the drive with Vista?

> Very dangerous as an unknowing person may have actually formatted the
> drive and lost all their data.
>

You haven't said whom the drive belongs to or if any data is on it. Did you
try formatting the drive with Vista?

> Interestingly enough, any time I've tried to access the drive,
> Vista ran a chkdsk on it at the next boot up.
>
> CHKDSK from Vista saw it fine and reported no errors
>
> but could not read the drive once booted to the desktop.
>
>
> I eventually gave up on Vista and just did a Win7 install yesterday.
>
> Problem was identical!
>

Did you try formatting the drive with Windows 7?

Mark Adams wrote:
>
> "philo" wrote:
>
>> I have an eSATA drive formatted NTFS from my XP installation.
>>
>> Drive works fine from either XP or Linux (multi-boot machine)
>>
>> I had previously tried Vista on the machine but it saw the eSATA drive
>> as unformatted. Gave the message "Do you want to format this drive?"
>>
>
> Did you try formatting the drive with Vista?
>
>> Very dangerous as an unknowing person may have actually formatted the
>> drive and lost all their data.
>>
>
> You haven't said whom the drive belongs to or if any data is on it. Did you
> try formatting the drive with Vista?
>
>> Interestingly enough, any time I've tried to access the drive,
>> Vista ran a chkdsk on it at the next boot up.
>>
>> CHKDSK from Vista saw it fine and reported no errors
>>
>> but could not read the drive once booted to the desktop.
>>
>>
>> I eventually gave up on Vista and just did a Win7 install yesterday.
>>
>> Problem was identical!
>>
>
> Did you try formatting the drive with Windows 7?


No

I am *not* going to format a drive with data on it...

(sheesh)

On 9/16/09, the entity philo wrote this:
> Mark Adams wrote:
>>
>> "philo" wrote:
>>
>>> I have an eSATA drive formatted NTFS from my XP installation.
>>>
>>> Drive works fine from either XP or Linux (multi-boot machine)
>>>
>>> I had previously tried Vista on the machine but it saw the eSATA drive as
>>> unformatted. Gave the message "Do you want to format this drive?"
>>>
>>
>> Did you try formatting the drive with Vista?
>>
>>> Very dangerous as an unknowing person may have actually formatted the
>>> drive and lost all their data.
>>>
>>
>> You haven't said whom the drive belongs to or if any data is on it. Did you
>> try formatting the drive with Vista?
>>
>>> Interestingly enough, any time I've tried to access the drive,
>>> Vista ran a chkdsk on it at the next boot up.
>>>
>>> CHKDSK from Vista saw it fine and reported no errors
>>>
>>> but could not read the drive once booted to the desktop.
>>>
>>>
>>> I eventually gave up on Vista and just did a Win7 install yesterday.
>>>
>>> Problem was identical!
>>>
>>
>> Did you try formatting the drive with Windows 7?


> No

> I am *not* going to format a drive with data on it...

> (sheesh)

I have read that Vista and 7 have available a slightly modified NTFS
that XP or older can't read, but I would expect - and have experienced
- no problems the other way.

Mostly, though, I've only connected my external drives via USB. Maybe
you should try that. Which also makes me wonder - do you have reason to
think that the eSATA port is healthy?

Once I used eSATA without a problem, but I don't remember which OS that
particular HD was formatted on.

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On 9/16/09, the entity philo wrote this:
>> Mark Adams wrote:
>>>
>>> "philo" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have an eSATA drive formatted NTFS from my XP installation.
>>>>
>>>> Drive works fine from either XP or Linux (multi-boot machine)
>>>>
>>>> I had previously tried Vista on the machine but it saw the eSATA
>>>> drive as unformatted. Gave the message "Do you want to format this
>>>> drive?"
>>>>
>>>
>>> Did you try formatting the drive with Vista?
>>>
>>>> Very dangerous as an unknowing person may have actually formatted
>>>> the drive and lost all their data.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You haven't said whom the drive belongs to or if any data is on it.
>>> Did you try formatting the drive with Vista?
>>>
>>>> Interestingly enough, any time I've tried to access the drive,
>>>> Vista ran a chkdsk on it at the next boot up.
>>>>
>>>> CHKDSK from Vista saw it fine and reported no errors
>>>>
>>>> but could not read the drive once booted to the desktop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I eventually gave up on Vista and just did a Win7 install yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> Problem was identical!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Did you try formatting the drive with Windows 7?
>
>
>> No
>
>> I am *not* going to format a drive with data on it...
>
>> (sheesh)
>
> I have read that Vista and 7 have available a slightly modified NTFS
> that XP or older can't read, but I would expect - and have experienced -
> no problems the other way.
>
> Mostly, though, I've only connected my external drives via USB. Maybe
> you should try that. Which also makes me wonder - do you have reason to
> think that the eSATA port is healthy?
>
> Once I used eSATA without a problem, but I don't remember which OS that
> particular HD was formatted on.
>


The eSATA port is healthy as I experience no problems with XP or Linux.

I know that NTFS has been modified slightly but my Vista installation is
an XP upgrade, so the drive that Vista is on has not been re-formated
with the "new" NTFS

The weirdest part is that Vista and Win7 can run CHKDSK on the eSATA
drive and no problems are found

On 9/16/09, the entity philo wrote this:
> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On 9/16/09, the entity philo wrote this:
>>> Mark Adams wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "philo" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have an eSATA drive formatted NTFS from my XP installation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Drive works fine from either XP or Linux (multi-boot machine)
>>>>>
>>>>> I had previously tried Vista on the machine but it saw the eSATA drive
>>>>> as unformatted. Gave the message "Do you want to format this drive?"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you try formatting the drive with Vista?
>>>>
>>>>> Very dangerous as an unknowing person may have actually formatted the
>>>>> drive and lost all their data.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You haven't said whom the drive belongs to or if any data is on it. Did
>>>> you try formatting the drive with Vista?
>>>>
>>>>> Interestingly enough, any time I've tried to access the drive,
>>>>> Vista ran a chkdsk on it at the next boot up.
>>>>>
>>>>> CHKDSK from Vista saw it fine and reported no errors
>>>>>
>>>>> but could not read the drive once booted to the desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I eventually gave up on Vista and just did a Win7 install yesterday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Problem was identical!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you try formatting the drive with Windows 7?
>>
>>
>>> No
>>
>>> I am *not* going to format a drive with data on it...
>>
>>> (sheesh)
>>
>> I have read that Vista and 7 have available a slightly modified NTFS that
>> XP or older can't read, but I would expect - and have experienced - no
>> problems the other way.
>>
>> Mostly, though, I've only connected my external drives via USB. Maybe you
>> should try that. Which also makes me wonder - do you have reason to think
>> that the eSATA port is healthy?
>>
>> Once I used eSATA without a problem, but I don't remember which OS that
>> particular HD was formatted on.
>>


> The eSATA port is healthy as I experience no problems with XP or Linux.

> I know that NTFS has been modified slightly but my Vista installation is an
> XP upgrade, so the drive that Vista is on has not been re-formated with the
> "new" NTFS

> The weirdest part is that Vista and Win7 can run CHKDSK on the eSATA drive
> and no problems are found

Sorry I couldn't help...

Although - how about the partition status on the external drive? If
it's set up as a boot drive, Vista and 7 might be skittish about it.

That's the only remaining straw I can grasp at :-)

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com

<snip>
>>> I have read that Vista and 7 have available a slightly modified NTFS
>>> that XP or older can't read, but I would expect - and have
>>> experienced - no problems the other way.
>>>
>>> Mostly, though, I've only connected my external drives via USB. Maybe
>>> you should try that. Which also makes me wonder - do you have reason
>>> to think that the eSATA port is healthy?
>>>
>>> Once I used eSATA without a problem, but I don't remember which OS
>>> that particular HD was formatted on.
>>>
>
>
>> The eSATA port is healthy as I experience no problems with XP or Linux.
>
>> I know that NTFS has been modified slightly but my Vista installation
>> is an XP upgrade, so the drive that Vista is on has not been
>> re-formated with the "new" NTFS
>
>> The weirdest part is that Vista and Win7 can run CHKDSK on the eSATA
>> drive and no problems are found
>
> Sorry I couldn't help...
>
> Although - how about the partition status on the external drive? If it's
> set up as a boot drive, Vista and 7 might be skittish about it.
>
> That's the only remaining straw I can grasp at :-)
>


thanks for the reply

the drive is not a boot drive..data only

I'd say that if Vista and Win7 cannot read a drive formatted from XP...
there's a problem!

"philo" wrote:

> Mark Adams wrote:
> >
> > "philo" wrote:
> >
> >> I have an eSATA drive formatted NTFS from my XP installation.
> >>
> >> Drive works fine from either XP or Linux (multi-boot machine)
> >>
> >> I had previously tried Vista on the machine but it saw the eSATA drive
> >> as unformatted. Gave the message "Do you want to format this drive?"
> >>
> >
> > Did you try formatting the drive with Vista?
> >
> >> Very dangerous as an unknowing person may have actually formatted the
> >> drive and lost all their data.
> >>
> >
> > You haven't said whom the drive belongs to or if any data is on it. Did you
> > try formatting the drive with Vista?
> >
> >> Interestingly enough, any time I've tried to access the drive,
> >> Vista ran a chkdsk on it at the next boot up.
> >>
> >> CHKDSK from Vista saw it fine and reported no errors
> >>
> >> but could not read the drive once booted to the desktop.
> >>
> >>
> >> I eventually gave up on Vista and just did a Win7 install yesterday.
> >>
> >> Problem was identical!
> >>
> >
> > Did you try formatting the drive with Windows 7?
>
>
> No
>
> I am *not* going to format a drive with data on it...
>
> (sheesh)
>

Sorry about that, you didn't actually say that there was data on the disk.
You simply said it was a drive formatted NTFS from your XP installation. I
assumed you formatted it with XP and moved it to a Vista machine. What would
happen if you copied the data off, reformatted the disk with the Vista or Win
7 machine then copied the data back?

Gene said that NTFS from Vista and Win 7 is slightly different than from XP;
I have heard this too from these newsgroups (don't remember from whom). Could
the upgrade from XP to Vista also have included the file system?

"philo" wrote:

> <snip>
> >>> I have read that Vista and 7 have available a slightly modified NTFS
> >>> that XP or older can't read, but I would expect - and have
> >>> experienced - no problems the other way.
> >>>
> >>> Mostly, though, I've only connected my external drives via USB. Maybe
> >>> you should try that. Which also makes me wonder - do you have reason
> >>> to think that the eSATA port is healthy?
> >>>
> >>> Once I used eSATA without a problem, but I don't remember which OS
> >>> that particular HD was formatted on.
> >>>
> >
> >
> >> The eSATA port is healthy as I experience no problems with XP or Linux.
> >
> >> I know that NTFS has been modified slightly but my Vista installation
> >> is an XP upgrade, so the drive that Vista is on has not been
> >> re-formated with the "new" NTFS
> >
> >> The weirdest part is that Vista and Win7 can run CHKDSK on the eSATA
> >> drive and no problems are found
> >
> > Sorry I couldn't help...
> >
> > Although - how about the partition status on the external drive? If it's
> > set up as a boot drive, Vista and 7 might be skittish about it.
> >
> > That's the only remaining straw I can grasp at :-)
> >
>
>
> thanks for the reply
>
> the drive is not a boot drive..data only
>
> I'd say that if Vista and Win7 cannot read a drive formatted from XP...
> there's a problem!
>
>

Sorry, again. Scratch that last post- I'm a little slow. I get it. It's an
eSATA data drive that you want to move from machine to machine and read the
data on all of them. Got it!

Will the XP machine read the drive if it is formatted with the Win 7 machine?

Mark Adams wrote:
>
> "philo" wrote:
>
>> <snip>
>>>>> I have read that Vista and 7 have available a slightly modified NTFS
>>>>> that XP or older can't read, but I would expect - and have
>>>>> experienced - no problems the other way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mostly, though, I've only connected my external drives via USB. Maybe
>>>>> you should try that. Which also makes me wonder - do you have reason
>>>>> to think that the eSATA port is healthy?
>>>>>
>>>>> Once I used eSATA without a problem, but I don't remember which OS
>>>>> that particular HD was formatted on.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> The eSATA port is healthy as I experience no problems with XP or Linux.
>>>> I know that NTFS has been modified slightly but my Vista installation
>>>> is an XP upgrade, so the drive that Vista is on has not been
>>>> re-formated with the "new" NTFS
>>>> The weirdest part is that Vista and Win7 can run CHKDSK on the eSATA
>>>> drive and no problems are found
>>> Sorry I couldn't help...
>>>
>>> Although - how about the partition status on the external drive? If it's
>>> set up as a boot drive, Vista and 7 might be skittish about it.
>>>
>>> That's the only remaining straw I can grasp at :-)
>>>
>>
>> thanks for the reply
>>
>> the drive is not a boot drive..data only
>>
>> I'd say that if Vista and Win7 cannot read a drive formatted from XP...
>> there's a problem!
>>
>>
>
> Sorry, again. Scratch that last post- I'm a little slow. I get it. It's an
> eSATA data drive that you want to move from machine to machine and read the
> data on all of them. Got it!
>
> Will the XP machine read the drive if it is formatted with the Win 7 machine?


I'll have to experiment with other drives I guess