Excellent SP1 review...

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3233

I especially like the part where it says:

"Even governments are finding they need to move to Vista as of late, as
new encryption standards come in to play which only Vista supports.'

Frank

On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 22:52:26 -0800
Frank <> wrote:

> I especially like the part where it says:
>
> "Even governments are finding they need to move to Vista as of late,
> as new encryption standards come in to play which only Vista
> supports.'
>
> Frank

False trolly, and you know that.

--
Live & let live, or leave.
:-)

Not even in your stupid dreams....

I have stated that SP1 will not save Vista. And this is true.

Sure SP1 has improved vista (even though its still worse than XP) but the
damage has been already done.

Vista has gotten so much hate from everyone that its name has been connected
with IDIOCY, and so have you.

Companies and governments will HOLD ON TO XP and wait for windows 7.

You can try searching all day and all night, the truth is that you will not
find many articles
that are PRO-vista.....

most bash it to smithereens and for good reason.



"Frank" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3233
>
> I especially like the part where it says:
>
> "Even governments are finding they need to move to Vista as of late, as
> new encryption standards come in to play which only Vista supports.'
>
> Frank

Frank wrote:

> http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3233
>
> I especially like the part where it says:
>
> "Even governments are finding they need to move to Vista as of late, as
> new encryption standards come in to play which only Vista supports.'
>
> Frank

I especially like the part that says:

"Among the 24 pages(!) of hotfixes that have been rolled into Vista SP1".

Kind of confirms that Vista wasn't working quite as well as Vista Fanboys
like Francis have been insisting around here.

Cheers.

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http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/war...tm/compost.htm

In article <#>,
Frank <> wrote:
>
>new encryption standards come in to play which only Vista supports.'
>

Such as?

The amount of patches that Microsoft has released this year for Windows XP
is still right around double what they had to release for Windows Vista. No
company is going to write perfect code unless they know exactly what
hardware the software is going to run on, NEVER gonna happen for Microsoft.
Everybody is right, if you run a Linux system, you wont need the antivirus
software, why on earth would the people who write a virus point them at an
OS with 10% market share when they could write them for a Windows box with
90% market share (not accurate %'s but gets my point accross). I have used
a couple different Linux variations, not a bad experiance, they were stable,
but how many years though have they had 1000's of people spending time
working on that OS? I would hope it would run well. Windows Vista was the
most heavily tested Windows OS to date, there were something like 15,000+
beta testers, but not even close to that amount for Microsoft Programmers
who could actually work on the product and make the improvements. Microsoft
is a company, one of their goals is to turn a profit (the reason they aren't
open source), and even Microsoft cannot afford the payroll for the amount of
people working on the Linux OS's. Windows Vista took 6 years to RTM,
Windows Vista wasn't just a continuation of Windows XP, they started from
scratch. One of the reasons they started over was the fact that the old
product needed change, the only problem with that is the fact that people
HATE change. If they included every change that needed to be made in
Windows Vista, people would have even more complaints that everything is
different than it used to be. The biggest complaint that people hear with
Vista is the UAC, if you don't like it, it takes 6 clicks from the desktop
to turn it off. One thing to remember is Windows Vista was feature complete
at RTM, don't expect new features, expect greater stability and increased
performance (don't expect Vista SP1 to scream on your PIII with 512megs of
RAM).

I'm sure I'm one click (Send) away from being flamed, but keep in mind a
couple things while your doing it, that I DO have an open opinion, I DO use
Linux, and while I haven't had the oportunity to use Leopard yet, I AM
familiar with the Apple OS, but most importantly WE are in a Windows Vista
newsgroup (the focus of my topic).


"NoStop" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Frank wrote:
>
>> http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3233
>>
>> I especially like the part where it says:
>>
>> "Even governments are finding they need to move to Vista as of late, as
>> new encryption standards come in to play which only Vista supports.'
>>
>> Frank
>
> I especially like the part that says:
>
> "Among the 24 pages(!) of hotfixes that have been rolled into Vista SP1".
>
> Kind of confirms that Vista wasn't working quite as well as Vista Fanboys
> like Francis have been insisting around here.
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
> What does Bill Gates use?
> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
>
> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
>
> Q: What OS is built for lusers?
> A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
>
> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/war...tm/compost.htm
>

NoStop wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>
>>http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3233
>>
>>I especially like the part where it says:
>>
>>"Even governments are finding they need to move to Vista as of late, as
>>new encryption standards come in to play which only Vista supports.'
>>
>>Frank
>
>
> I especially like the part that says:
>
> "Among the 24 pages(!) of hotfixes that have been rolled into Vista SP1".
>
> Kind of confirms that Vista wasn't working quite as well as Vista Fanboys
> like Francis have been insisting around here.

No, it only confirms that MS is taking care of it's product and it's
customers.
Install urbuttoo and then spend hours doing the 150+ security, etc updates.
You're an MS hater as we all know nostop. I can't figure out exactly why
you're always here other than you're really and truly mentally deranged
or just plain old jealous of Vista users.
Actually you come off as a rather pathetic human being.
Frank

In article <0DA128F3-166C-4B42-865D->,
Wyo2aZ <> wrote:
>software, why on earth would the people who write a virus point them at an
>OS with 10% market share when they could write them for a Windows box with
>90% market share (not accurate %'s but gets my point accross). I have used

Your point's wrong, though. It's much harder to write viruses
for Linux systems. Not only is the basic architecture less susceptable
to subversion but the vast majority of Linux installs are professionally
run data center sites. The payback woould be immense - imagine controlling
the Google webfarm as a botnet - but so much more difficult that the cost
is still higher than the potential profit.

I completely understand your point here, but the majority of virus' are
released to the home user, and we all know how careless they can be. Most
home users have no problem logging in as root for day to day stuff and
allowing anything that pops up to go ahead and do its thing. Which is why
Microsoft has hidden the root equivalent in Vista, and also a drawback of
UAC. Along with the fact that if Linux did gain market share, the cost per
infection would go down dramatically because it would affect a larger base
of people and would be more appealing the the people who write the viral
code.

I'm not trying to say that I'm 100% right, or you're not, but after reading
these newsgroups I'm thinking that people here preach one side of a story
and then scream obscenities if anybody approaches the other side of it. I
wanted to try and put something down that tries to show both sides, so
people had hopefully a better understanding of what they are dealing with
instead of the "or just install ????, that will fix everything" answer they
get when they post.

"the wharf rat" <> wrote in message
news:fqeq5v$lan$...
> In article <0DA128F3-166C-4B42-865D->,
> Wyo2aZ <> wrote:
>>software, why on earth would the people who write a virus point them at an
>>OS with 10% market share when they could write them for a Windows box with
>>90% market share (not accurate %'s but gets my point accross). I have
>>used
>
> Your point's wrong, though. It's much harder to write viruses
> for Linux systems. Not only is the basic architecture less susceptable
> to subversion but the vast majority of Linux installs are professionally
> run data center sites. The payback woould be immense - imagine
> controlling
> the Google webfarm as a botnet - but so much more difficult that the cost
> is still higher than the potential profit.
>

Frank wrote:

> NoStop wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>
>>>http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3233
>>>
>>>I especially like the part where it says:
>>>
>>>"Even governments are finding they need to move to Vista as of late, as
>>>new encryption standards come in to play which only Vista supports.'
>>>
>>>Frank
>>
>>
>> I especially like the part that says:
>>
>> "Among the 24 pages(!) of hotfixes that have been rolled into Vista SP1".
>>
>> Kind of confirms that Vista wasn't working quite as well as Vista Fanboys
>> like Francis have been insisting around here.
>
> No, it only confirms that MS is taking care of it's product and it's
> customers.

As it should you **** for brains. People have purchased that pathetic p.o.s.
and Microsoft should fix the damn thing. No arguments here. The problem is
that Vista is essentially unfixable, hence the scramble to get Windoze 7
out.

> Install urbuttoo and then spend hours doing the 150+ security, etc

Bullshit as usual. It might take YOU hours. Any other human being can just
let the updates roll in in the background in under 20 minutes while
continuing to use the OS.

> updates. You're an MS hater as we all know nostop.

Yes, I do hate Microsoft. Anyone familiar with the history of Microsoft also
hates Microsoft. So what else is new?

> I can't figure out
> exactly why you're always here other than you're really and truly mentally
> deranged or just plain old jealous of Vista users.

I'm not the least bit jealous of Vista users. That would be like being
jealous of someone having cancer. You sure are THE Usenet Village Idiot,
aren't you.

> Actually you come off as a rather pathetic human being.

I do? That must be a compliment coming from a brain injured asswipe like
YOU.

> Frank

Cheers and LOL!

--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/war...tm/compost.htm