from eXPerience to an amature OS!

Vista gives me the feeling of an amateur OS made by programmers that have no
experience in designing software.

Did Microsoft fire all the knowledgeable people who made the superb Win2k
and XP,
and brought in new blood right out of collage to work on vista?

Giving new opportunities to young people is good but unleashing an OS like
vista is a crime!

MS really blew it this time!

They hired all the programmers fired from AOL.
Can't you tell by the 'don't let me customize' and 'protect me from myself
at all costs' "features"?
I liked the article from
http://www.computerworld.com/action/...0&pageNumber=1

--
A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!

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"carl feredeck" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Vista gives me the feeling of an amateur OS made by programmers that have
> no experience in designing software.
>
> Did Microsoft fire all the knowledgeable people who made the superb Win2k
> and XP,
> and brought in new blood right out of collage to work on vista?
>
> Giving new opportunities to young people is good but unleashing an OS like
> vista is a crime!
>
> MS really blew it this time!
>
>
>
>
>
>

In article <>,
"carl feredeck" <> wrote:

> Vista gives me the feeling of an amateur OS made by programmers that have no
> experience in designing software.
>
> Did Microsoft fire all the knowledgeable people who made the superb Win2k
> and XP,

How soon we forget. 6 years ago XP was "buggy, insecure, bloated,
ugly, too much eye candy, incompatible, needs too much hardware for
decent performance" - the very same complaints we hear today about Vista.

Now, XP is "superb"! It's magically no longer "buggy, insecure,
bloated, ugly, too much eye candy, incompatible, needs too much hardware
for decent performance". Now it's the perfect OS!

Yes, Microsoft fired all the knowledgeable people who made the superb
Win2k and XP, and hired all the knowledgeable people who made the superb
Vista. These are the knowledgeable people who will be fired so
Microsoft can hire the knowledgeable people who will build the next
superb OS.

In case you still don't get it, Vista is only 6 months old! Every new
OS has problems. Come back in a year or so and we'll see where Vista
is.

Mike

I agree with Carl. If I have to watch that whirling circle while it works in
the background doing something (of what, I don't know) I'll scream. If I had
a dollar for all the times I manually rebooted the computer after waiting for
eternity for the whirling dervish to finish whatever it was doing, I'd be
rich enough to buy an Apple. I'd like it better if it wasn't so proprietary
and just took over whenever it wants to do whatever it wants to. I did slow
it down some by finally getting it to ask me before doing MS updates. I do
like it when it actually works and think I have been able to remove some junk
to make it work but when it wants to do its thing, the user takes the back
seat. Not very user friendly in my opinion. Maybe as has been suggested, in
6 months or a year (or 10) they may have it to the point where it will
actually do what I want it to do (after a zillion MS updates while I wait...).
--
RockCreekRocketman


"carl feredeck" wrote:

> Vista gives me the feeling of an amateur OS made by programmers that have no
> experience in designing software.
>
> Did Microsoft fire all the knowledgeable people who made the superb Win2k
> and XP,
> and brought in new blood right out of collage to work on vista?
>
> Giving new opportunities to young people is good but unleashing an OS like
> vista is a crime!
>
> MS really blew it this time!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Carl,

in what way do you find the software amateurish? You made a very broad
statement without really relating it to anything specific issues.

Best regards,
Brian.

"carl feredeck" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Vista gives me the feeling of an amateur OS made by programmers that have
> no experience in designing software.
>
> Did Microsoft fire all the knowledgeable people who made the superb Win2k
> and XP,
> and brought in new blood right out of collage to work on vista?
>
> Giving new opportunities to young people is good but unleashing an OS like
> vista is a crime!
>
> MS really blew it this time!
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi RockCreekRocketman,

as far as the whirling circle goes, why not just change it back to the
hourglass (in Mouse Pointer options) as per previous versions of Windows? It
is easy enough to do.

What things are causing you issues? As in - what is causing you delays that
you wait forever for and maybe have to reboot? I am only asking out of
curiosity as I have had no problems (yet) and I am wondering what is in
store for me at a later date. I have noticed no instability in Vista in the
few weeks I have been using it. On the same computer system it is noticeably
slower than XP, that's for sure! There are some fiddly methods too, like
making a file shareable is FAR longer and more fiddly than doing it in XP.
Getting to System Restore is more fiddly too and to display settings. In
fairness though, the navigation in the address bar is fantastic and being
able to place any shortcuts you like at the left in Computer is terrific.
The features of the Photo Gallery (cataloguing, display options, etc) are
vastly superior to the equivalent or non-existent features in XP. There are
a lot of things that are better, far outweighing the drawbacks.

Overall, I think Vista is a nice step forwards. Just my take.

Best regards,
Brian.


"RCRocketman" <> wrote in message
news:A32F4C77-D77B-4952-B9C4-...
>I agree with Carl. If I have to watch that whirling circle while it works
>in
> the background doing something (of what, I don't know) I'll scream. If I
> had
> a dollar for all the times I manually rebooted the computer after waiting
> for
> eternity for the whirling dervish to finish whatever it was doing, I'd be
> rich enough to buy an Apple. I'd like it better if it wasn't so
> proprietary
> and just took over whenever it wants to do whatever it wants to. I did
> slow
> it down some by finally getting it to ask me before doing MS updates. I
> do
> like it when it actually works and think I have been able to remove some
> junk
> to make it work but when it wants to do its thing, the user takes the back
> seat. Not very user friendly in my opinion. Maybe as has been suggested,
> in
> 6 months or a year (or 10) they may have it to the point where it will
> actually do what I want it to do (after a zillion MS updates while I
> wait...).
> --
> RockCreekRocketman
>
>
> "carl feredeck" wrote:
>
>> Vista gives me the feeling of an amateur OS made by programmers that have
>> no
>> experience in designing software.
>>
>> Did Microsoft fire all the knowledgeable people who made the superb Win2k
>> and XP,
>> and brought in new blood right out of collage to work on vista?
>>
>> Giving new opportunities to young people is good but unleashing an OS
>> like
>> vista is a crime!
>>
>> MS really blew it this time!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:20:11 -0500, "GO"
<> wrote:

>Mike wrote:
>> In article <>,
>> "carl feredeck" <> wrote:
>>
>>> Vista gives me the feeling of an amateur OS made by programmers that
>>> have no experience in designing software.
>>>
>>> Did Microsoft fire all the knowledgeable people who made the superb
>>> Win2k and XP,
>>
>> How soon we forget. 6 years ago XP was "buggy, insecure, bloated,
>> ugly, too much eye candy, incompatible, needs too much hardware for
>> decent performance" - the very same complaints we hear today about
>> Vista.
>>
>> Now, XP is "superb"! It's magically no longer "buggy, insecure,
>> bloated, ugly, too much eye candy, incompatible, needs too much
>> hardware for decent performance". Now it's the perfect OS!
>>
>> Yes, Microsoft fired all the knowledgeable people who made the superb
>> Win2k and XP, and hired all the knowledgeable people who made the
>> superb Vista. These are the knowledgeable people who will be fired
>> so Microsoft can hire the knowledgeable people who will build the next
>> superb OS.
>>
>> In case you still don't get it, Vista is only 6 months old! Every
>> new OS has problems. Come back in a year or so and we'll see where
>> Vista is.
>>
>> Mike
>
>
>So we have to wait another five and a half years before Vista is half-way
>decent? I'm sorry, but MS has been in the biz long enough that they should
>be able to release a better product on launch.

Twenty one years and counting and Microsoft has yet to release any
version of Windows in it's initial release that wasn't buggy as hell.
The fanboy nitwits think that's fine. Talk about brainwashing.

Name just ONE other product any other non software company could
produce for over two decades and never quite get it right. They would
be laughed out of business.

You can wait 5 1/2 years. I am 95% happy with Vista now. When SP1 is
released it will likely bump me closer to 100%.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"GO" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Mike wrote:
>> In article <>,
>> "carl feredeck" <> wrote:
>>
>>> Vista gives me the feeling of an amateur OS made by programmers that
>>> have no experience in designing software.
>>>
>>> Did Microsoft fire all the knowledgeable people who made the superb
>>> Win2k and XP,
>>
>> How soon we forget. 6 years ago XP was "buggy, insecure, bloated,
>> ugly, too much eye candy, incompatible, needs too much hardware for
>> decent performance" - the very same complaints we hear today about
>> Vista.
>>
>> Now, XP is "superb"! It's magically no longer "buggy, insecure,
>> bloated, ugly, too much eye candy, incompatible, needs too much
>> hardware for decent performance". Now it's the perfect OS!
>>
>> Yes, Microsoft fired all the knowledgeable people who made the superb
>> Win2k and XP, and hired all the knowledgeable people who made the
>> superb Vista. These are the knowledgeable people who will be fired
>> so Microsoft can hire the knowledgeable people who will build the next
>> superb OS.
>>
>> In case you still don't get it, Vista is only 6 months old! Every
>> new OS has problems. Come back in a year or so and we'll see where
>> Vista is.
>>
>> Mike
>
>
> So we have to wait another five and a half years before Vista is half-way
> decent? I'm sorry, but MS has been in the biz long enough that they
> should
> be able to release a better product on launch.
>
>

Mike wrote:
> In article <>,
> "carl feredeck" <> wrote:
>
>> Vista gives me the feeling of an amateur OS made by programmers that
>> have no experience in designing software.
>>
>> Did Microsoft fire all the knowledgeable people who made the superb
>> Win2k and XP,
>
> How soon we forget. 6 years ago XP was "buggy, insecure, bloated,
> ugly, too much eye candy, incompatible, needs too much hardware for
> decent performance" - the very same complaints we hear today about
> Vista.
>
> Now, XP is "superb"! It's magically no longer "buggy, insecure,
> bloated, ugly, too much eye candy, incompatible, needs too much
> hardware for decent performance". Now it's the perfect OS!
>
> Yes, Microsoft fired all the knowledgeable people who made the superb
> Win2k and XP, and hired all the knowledgeable people who made the
> superb Vista. These are the knowledgeable people who will be fired
> so Microsoft can hire the knowledgeable people who will build the next
> superb OS.
>
> In case you still don't get it, Vista is only 6 months old! Every
> new OS has problems. Come back in a year or so and we'll see where
> Vista is.
>
> Mike


So we have to wait another five and a half years before Vista is half-way
decent? I'm sorry, but MS has been in the biz long enough that they should
be able to release a better product on launch.

It's an aimless attack. Besides, amateurs made Linux, right? It sounds like
Carl Feredeck is one of those people who support Linux, so coming from him
it might be a complement.

Robert Firth
http://www.winvistainfo.org

"Brian" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi Carl,
>
> in what way do you find the software amateurish? You made a very broad
> statement without really relating it to anything specific issues.
>
> Best regards,
> Brian.
>
> "carl feredeck" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Vista gives me the feeling of an amateur OS made by programmers that have
>> no experience in designing software.
>>
>> Did Microsoft fire all the knowledgeable people who made the superb Win2k
>> and XP,
>> and brought in new blood right out of collage to work on vista?
>>
>> Giving new opportunities to young people is good but unleashing an OS
>> like vista is a crime!
>>
>> MS really blew it this time!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>