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Karl E. Peterson
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      02-04-2010



So I moved to Win7 x64, and put the new "Windows Virtual PC" XP Mode
thing on. (What's the easiest way to identify that, as opposed to
VPC2007, here?)

Brought along VMs from the past, including 2000 and 95, built with
either VPC2004 or 2007. Doesn't seem I can share the clipboard
anymore, and trying to update the extensions pretty much never works.
Any solutions for that?

Thanks... Karl

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Robert Comer
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      02-04-2010
>So I moved to Win7 x64, and put the new "Windows Virtual PC" XP Mode
>thing on. (What's the easiest way to identify that, as opposed to
>VPC2007, here?)


Just call it WVPC...

>Brought along VMs from the past, including 2000 and 95, built with
>either VPC2004 or 2007. Doesn't seem I can share the clipboard
>anymore, and trying to update the extensions pretty much never works.
>Any solutions for that?


No solutions, the old additions do still work but they're limited. No
shared folders and clipboard for older OS's.

No way to update to the integration components either, they're XPSP3
and up.

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On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 12:18:03 -0800, Karl E. Peterson <>
wrote:

>So I moved to Win7 x64, and put the new "Windows Virtual PC" XP Mode
>thing on. (What's the easiest way to identify that, as opposed to
>VPC2007, here?)
>
>Brought along VMs from the past, including 2000 and 95, built with
>either VPC2004 or 2007. Doesn't seem I can share the clipboard
>anymore, and trying to update the extensions pretty much never works.
>Any solutions for that?
>
>Thanks... Karl

 
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Karl E. Peterson
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      02-04-2010
Robert Comer wrote:
>> So I moved to Win7 x64, and put the new "Windows Virtual PC" XP Mode
>> thing on. (What's the easiest way to identify that, as opposed to
>> VPC2007, here?)

>
> Just call it WVPC...


Cool. Too much to type out, but wanna be sure I'm clear.

>> Brought along VMs from the past, including 2000 and 95, built with
>> either VPC2004 or 2007. Doesn't seem I can share the clipboard
>> anymore, and trying to update the extensions pretty much never works.
>> Any solutions for that?

>
> No solutions, the old additions do still work but they're limited. No
> shared folders and clipboard for older OS's.


Crap! :-(

Thanks for the confirmation...

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Karl E. Peterson
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      02-04-2010
Karl E. Peterson wrote:
> Robert Comer wrote:
>>> Brought along VMs from the past, including 2000 and 95, built with either
>>> VPC2004 or 2007. Doesn't seem I can share the clipboard anymore, and
>>> trying to update the extensions pretty much never works. Any solutions
>>> for that?

>>
>> No solutions, the old additions do still work but they're limited. No
>> shared folders and clipboard for older OS's.

>
> Crap! :-(


I mean, I can easily make do with mapping drives, but losing the
clipboard *really* hurts!!! :-(

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ohaya
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      02-05-2010
On 2/4/2010 5:37 PM, Karl E. Peterson wrote:
> Robert Comer wrote:
>>> So I moved to Win7 x64, and put the new "Windows Virtual PC" XP Mode
>>> thing on. (What's the easiest way to identify that, as opposed to
>>> VPC2007, here?)

>>
>> Just call it WVPC...

>
> Cool. Too much to type out, but wanna be sure I'm clear.
>
>>> Brought along VMs from the past, including 2000 and 95, built with
>>> either VPC2004 or 2007. Doesn't seem I can share the clipboard
>>> anymore, and trying to update the extensions pretty much never works.
>>> Any solutions for that?

>>
>> No solutions, the old additions do still work but they're limited. No
>> shared folders and clipboard for older OS's.

>
> Crap! :-(
>
> Thanks for the confirmation...
>



Hi,

So why don't you just continue to use VPC 2007 on Win7 instead of 'WVPC"?

I tried "WVPC" under Win7, in fact, I replaced the CPU on my laptop to
be able to do that, but after I tried it, I rather quickly uninstalled
it, and just used VPC 2007 instead...

I was actually more interested in using XP mode, but when I found that
you couldn't run both "WVPC" and VPC 2007 on the same Win7, I had to
make a decision, WVPC or VPC 2007, so I went with VPC 2007...

Jim

 
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David Wilkinson
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      02-05-2010
ohaya wrote:
> I was actually more interested in using XP mode, but when I found that
> you couldn't run both "WVPC" and VPC 2007 on the same Win7, I had to
> make a decision, WVPC or VPC 2007, so I went with VPC 2007...


You can run the XP-Mode virtual machine in VMWare Workstation 7 (not free) or
VMWare Reader 3.0 (free) and use VPC2007 at the same time.

And the VMWare products do not require hardware virtualization.

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senn
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      02-05-2010


"ohaya" <> skrev i meddelelsen
news:...
> On 2/4/2010 5:37 PM, Karl E. Peterson wrote:
>> Robert Comer wrote:
>>>> So I moved to Win7 x64, and put the new "Windows Virtual PC" XP Mode
>>>> thing on. (What's the easiest way to identify that, as opposed to
>>>> VPC2007, here?)
>>>
>>> Just call it WVPC...

>>
>> Cool. Too much to type out, but wanna be sure I'm clear.
>>
>>>> Brought along VMs from the past, including 2000 and 95, built with
>>>> either VPC2004 or 2007. Doesn't seem I can share the clipboard
>>>> anymore, and trying to update the extensions pretty much never works.
>>>> Any solutions for that?
>>>
>>> No solutions, the old additions do still work but they're limited. No
>>> shared folders and clipboard for older OS's.

>>
>> Crap! :-(
>>
>> Thanks for the confirmation...
>>

>
>
> Hi,
>
> So why don't you just continue to use VPC 2007 on Win7 instead of 'WVPC"?
>
> I tried "WVPC" under Win7, in fact, I replaced the CPU on my laptop to be
> able to do that, but after I tried it, I rather quickly uninstalled it,
> and just used VPC 2007 instead...
>
> I was actually more interested in using XP mode, but when I found that you
> couldn't run both "WVPC" and VPC 2007 on the same Win7, I had to make a
> decision, WVPC or VPC 2007, so I went with VPC 2007...
>
> Jim
>

If the user have a vacant XP license to install in a VPC2007.
Not all have it. MS used windows 7 xp-mode as a sales tracker.
Now I know; Why should I choose to load my Autocad 14
and other older programs into xp-mode for long term use,
when not even a clipboard.
This xp-mode is a really baby soother.
The people who made this is really some smart-ass and
nothing else except ma-like.

Investment in professional software and skipping this
foolish company would raise ones mood. This company
is really sunket too low down.
What kind of VMware should be bought. There's no
price information on their site ?.
Anybody knows ?.
/senn


 
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Karl E. Peterson
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      02-05-2010
ohaya wrote:
> On 2/4/2010 5:37 PM, Karl E. Peterson wrote:
>> Crap! :-(

>
> So why don't you just continue to use VPC 2007 on Win7 instead of 'WVPC"?


Good question. At the moment, I'm rather tied to WVPC because of the
lameass way FrontPage 2003 works (doesn't) in Win7. I could run it in
a full window VPC, but it wouldn't be as nice. I'm really torn though,
after seeing the clipboard disappear in other non-XP VMs. That may be
the final deal-killer on WVPC. Once again, MSFT disappoints on a grand
scale.

I've never really taken the time to get comfortable with VMWare, but it
may simply be time to be done with this crap coming from MSFT. I mean,
WTF? No clipboard??? Lame...

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Bo Berglund
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      02-05-2010
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:24:24 +0100, "senn" <senn@homeplace&.fix> wrote:

>>
>> So why don't you just continue to use VPC 2007 on Win7 instead of 'WVPC"?
>>
>> I tried "WVPC" under Win7, in fact, I replaced the CPU on my laptop to be
>> able to do that, but after I tried it, I rather quickly uninstalled it,
>> and just used VPC 2007 instead...
>>
>> I was actually more interested in using XP mode, but when I found that you
>> couldn't run both "WVPC" and VPC 2007 on the same Win7, I had to make a
>> decision, WVPC or VPC 2007, so I went with VPC 2007...
>>
>> Jim
>>

>If the user have a vacant XP license to install in a VPC2007.
>Not all have it. MS used windows 7 xp-mode as a sales tracker.
>Now I know; Why should I choose to load my Autocad 14
>and other older programs into xp-mode for long term use,
>when not even a clipboard.
>This xp-mode is a really baby soother.
>The people who made this is really some smart-ass and
>nothing else except ma-like.
>
>Investment in professional software and skipping this
>foolish company would raise ones mood. This company
>is really sunket too low down.
>What kind of VMware should be bought. There's no
>price information on their site ?.
>Anybody knows ?.


VMWare Player 3 is as free as VPC2007 and has all of what you need as
far as I can tell. It has full USB support, Windows7 and DirectX
compatible graphics and it can run a guest made by VPC2007.

It is advisable to uninstall the additions before you try running it
with Player, though, because VMWare has its own set of "tools" that do
much the same as the MS additions. But they are not compatible.

Workstation 7 is what I use and it can be bought on-line from VMWare
where you will easily find pricing too. It has more configuration
possibilities and has a system of snapshots that beats the MS undo
disks hands down.
If I were in your shoes I would start out with Player, and I would
make a copy of my VPC2007 guest and check it out with Player. After
that you can decide what your preferences are.

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Dave Warren
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      02-08-2010
In message <39FAA913-E15F-489F-904F-> "senn"
<senn@homeplace&.fix> was claimed to have wrote:

>If the user have a vacant XP license to install in a VPC2007.


If you don't already have one, start shopping, they can still be found
and you'll need it whether you use Virtual PC 2007, VMWare, or something
else entirely.

>Not all have it. MS used windows 7 xp-mode as a sales tracker.
>Now I know; Why should I choose to load my Autocad 14
>and other older programs into xp-mode for long term use,
>when not even a clipboard.


XP Mode has clipboard integration whether using the built-in VM or a XP
SP3 VM you create yourself.

It's only older OSes running under Windows 7's Virtual PC that don't
have clipboard integration and if that's a critical thing for you,
Virtual PC 2007 is still available.

>This xp-mode is a really baby soother.
>The people who made this is really some smart-ass and
>nothing else except ma-like.


It works very well for what it's intended to do.

>Investment in professional software and skipping this
>foolish company would raise ones mood. This company
>is really sunket too low down.
>What kind of VMware should be bought. There's no
>price information on their site ?.
>Anybody knows ?.


You'll still need that spare XP license.
 
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