Extremely Weird CD Problem

I have a training CD that delivers a presentation with links to video
vignettes. It also has three audio files that aren't a part of the
presentation. To start the presentation I simply put it in the drive and
away it goes. I'm assuming it is an Adobe Flash presentation or something
similar. If I 'open' the CD to view its contents I can see multiple media
files and folders. Well that's what happens for all other computers but with
my computer all I can see are the three audio files, there are no folders
and no other files are visible at all and of course windows media player or
PowerDVD wants to play these 3 audio files. I have the latest version of
adobe flash player installed and folder options are set to display hidden
files. Any idea what is going on here??

A lot of presentations are done in Power Point, and application in Microsoft
Office.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld (Sunshine State) - Australia


"pbl" wrote:

> I have a training CD that delivers a presentation with links to video
> vignettes. It also has three audio files that aren't a part of the
> presentation. To start the presentation I simply put it in the drive and
> away it goes. I'm assuming it is an Adobe Flash presentation or something
> similar. If I 'open' the CD to view its contents I can see multiple media
> files and folders. Well that's what happens for all other computers but with
> my computer all I can see are the three audio files, there are no folders
> and no other files are visible at all and of course windows media player or
> PowerDVD wants to play these 3 audio files. I have the latest version of
> adobe flash player installed and folder options are set to display hidden
> files. Any idea what is going on here??
>

Thanks Mick but these aren't powerpoint files, they're flv, which I think
are adobe flash files. Just tried it on my wife's notebook - works perfectly
and noticed all the .flv extensions.

"Mick Murphy" <> wrote in message
news:0E6EC3C9-7CA9-4020-A569-...
>A lot of presentations are done in Power Point, and application in
>Microsoft
> Office.
> --
> Mick Murphy - Qld (Sunshine State) - Australia
>
>
> "pbl" wrote:
>
>> I have a training CD that delivers a presentation with links to video
>> vignettes. It also has three audio files that aren't a part of the
>> presentation. To start the presentation I simply put it in the drive and
>> away it goes. I'm assuming it is an Adobe Flash presentation or something
>> similar. If I 'open' the CD to view its contents I can see multiple media
>> files and folders. Well that's what happens for all other computers but
>> with
>> my computer all I can see are the three audio files, there are no folders
>> and no other files are visible at all and of course windows media player
>> or
>> PowerDVD wants to play these 3 audio files. I have the latest version of
>> adobe flash player installed and folder options are set to display hidden
>> files. Any idea what is going on here??
>>

Thanks but I tried this and it didn't work. Actually I created a disk image
of the first CD and burnt that to a new CD. Is that what you meant? I get
the same problem - only 3 audio tracks show up and none of the other files.
Maybe it is a Vista thing because all the other computers I have tried it on
where it works are XP machines, or maybe it is just peculiar to my
machine????

"leap frog vista" <> wrote in message
news:...
> hello,
>
> it seems you have a multisession cd that has more than one track, and for
> some reason the track where the other info is located is not accessible to
> your vista computer. I have seen this some times.. but mostly with older
> hardware. V
>
> Make a copy of the cd on the laptop computer (by making a new cd - copy)
> and then use the copy for your vista machine.
>
> it will work
>
>
>
>
> "pbl" <> wrote in message
> news:B271711E-1F34-4ECB-BB27-...
>> Thanks Mick but these aren't powerpoint files, they're flv, which I think
>> are adobe flash files. Just tried it on my wife's notebook - works
>> perfectly and noticed all the .flv extensions.
>>
>> "Mick Murphy" <> wrote in message
>> news:0E6EC3C9-7CA9-4020-A569-...
>>>A lot of presentations are done in Power Point, and application in
>>>Microsoft
>>> Office.
>>> --
>>> Mick Murphy - Qld (Sunshine State) - Australia
>>>
>>>
>>> "pbl" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a training CD that delivers a presentation with links to video
>>>> vignettes. It also has three audio files that aren't a part of the
>>>> presentation. To start the presentation I simply put it in the drive
>>>> and
>>>> away it goes. I'm assuming it is an Adobe Flash presentation or
>>>> something
>>>> similar. If I 'open' the CD to view its contents I can see multiple
>>>> media
>>>> files and folders. Well that's what happens for all other computers but
>>>> with
>>>> my computer all I can see are the three audio files, there are no
>>>> folders
>>>> and no other files are visible at all and of course windows media
>>>> player or
>>>> PowerDVD wants to play these 3 audio files. I have the latest version
>>>> of
>>>> adobe flash player installed and folder options are set to display
>>>> hidden
>>>> files. Any idea what is going on here??
>>>>
>>

Did exactly as you said leap frog - created a new folder on the 2nd
notebook, copied all files (384 of them) to that folder, burnt the folder
contents to another CD, checked to make sure the new CD 'worked' on the 2nd
notebook - yep all working. Placed the new CD into my vista notebook drive
and dammit only the three audio files show again. Not to be outsmarted by
Vista, I copied all the files to a USB flash drive on the 2nd notebook,
inserted it into a spare USB port on my notebook and guess what - the
presentation started automatically.

So what's going on here?

"leap frog vista" <> wrote in message
news:...
> then do this: create a folder on another computer, dump all the files in
> the folder from the cd,
> and make a new cd and burn the files from the folder into the new cd.
>
> I suspect that the image you tried, just creates an exact copy INCLUDING
> the split in "tracks" that is causing the problem in the first place.
>
> Tell me if this works...
>
>
>
> "pbl" <> wrote in message
> news:04042538-9E04-461F-9BAD-...
>> Thanks but I tried this and it didn't work. Actually I created a disk
>> image of the first CD and burnt that to a new CD. Is that what you meant?
>> I get the same problem - only 3 audio tracks show up and none of the
>> other files. Maybe it is a Vista thing because all the other computers I
>> have tried it on where it works are XP machines, or maybe it is just
>> peculiar to my machine????
>>
>> "leap frog vista" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> it seems you have a multisession cd that has more than one track, and
>>> for some reason the track where the other info is located is not
>>> accessible to your vista computer. I have seen this some times.. but
>>> mostly with older hardware. V
>>>
>>> Make a copy of the cd on the laptop computer (by making a new cd - copy)
>>> and then use the copy for your vista machine.
>>>
>>> it will work
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "pbl" <> wrote in message
>>> news:B271711E-1F34-4ECB-BB27-...
>>>> Thanks Mick but these aren't powerpoint files, they're flv, which I
>>>> think are adobe flash files. Just tried it on my wife's notebook -
>>>> works perfectly and noticed all the .flv extensions.
>>>>
>>>> "Mick Murphy" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:0E6EC3C9-7CA9-4020-A569-...
>>>>>A lot of presentations are done in Power Point, and application in
>>>>>Microsoft
>>>>> Office.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mick Murphy - Qld (Sunshine State) - Australia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "pbl" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a training CD that delivers a presentation with links to video
>>>>>> vignettes. It also has three audio files that aren't a part of the
>>>>>> presentation. To start the presentation I simply put it in the drive
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> away it goes. I'm assuming it is an Adobe Flash presentation or
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> similar. If I 'open' the CD to view its contents I can see multiple
>>>>>> media
>>>>>> files and folders. Well that's what happens for all other computers
>>>>>> but with
>>>>>> my computer all I can see are the three audio files, there are no
>>>>>> folders
>>>>>> and no other files are visible at all and of course windows media
>>>>>> player or
>>>>>> PowerDVD wants to play these 3 audio files. I have the latest version
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> adobe flash player installed and folder options are set to display
>>>>>> hidden
>>>>>> files. Any idea what is going on here??
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>

Sorry for the delay - it's the next day here in Australia. Thanks for your
persistance leap frog.

> when you plug in the USB drive into vista, (is that what you mean when you
> say notebook? vista is on your notebook?)
> does it "see" all the files from the usb drive?

Yes, the notebook is Vista and it does read all of the files on the USB
drive. In fact I also copied them to a folder on my Vista notebook and can
run the poresentation there.

> I cant explain it any other way.. does the cdrom (or dvdrom) work with all
> other disks normally?

Yes - it is a Bluray/DVD/CD read/write combo drive. I have never had a
problem with it until this problem came along.

> Are you sure you are using cdroms? and not DVD roms? if you are using DVD
> then there is DVD+R and DVD-R
> that may be messing up the whole thing...if you are using for example
> dvd-r while the device can read dvd+r

The original CD is a commercial CD (not DVD) with a macromedia flash
presentation on it. I have been using CD-R media to copy the original disk
(not DVD+R or DVD-R)

> You can download the TRIAL of dvdinfo pro that will tell you exactly what
> your device is capable of reading

Thanks. Did so. DVDinfoPro tells me the disk drive reads and writes most of
the formats available. Reads - CD-R,CD-RW, CD MULTI READ, CD METHOD 2,
DVD-R, DVD-R DL, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+R DL, DVD+RW, DVD-RAM, DVD-ROM, BD-ROM,
BD-R, BD-RE. Writes - CD-R, CD-RW, CD SAO/RAW, CD TAO, DVD-R, DVD-R DL,
DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+R DL, DVD+RW, DVD-RAM, BUFFER UNDERRUN, TEST WRITE, BD-R,
BD-RE.

> is the original cd with the presentation along with all your copies
> written on the SAME BRAND OF MEDIUM, meaning
> the same brand of blank cd? If so try writing the presentation on a blank
> DVD of a different brand....

As indicated the original CD is a comercial disk so I don't know what brand
it is. Also the media that I used to copy the disk worked on another XP
computer just like to original with all files showing up.

This is an absolute mystery to me.


"leap frog vista" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Indeed this is extremely strange! Hmmmmmm
>
> when you plug in the USB drive into vista, (is that what you mean when you
> say notebook? vista is on your notebook?)
> does it "see" all the files from the usb drive?
>
> If so then its not vista that’s the problem.. something is wrong with your
> cd rom drive... !
>
> I cant explain it any other way.. does the cdrom (or dvdrom) work with all
> other disks normally?
>
> Are you sure you are using cdroms? and not DVD roms? if you are using DVD
> then there is DVD+R and DVD-R
> that may be messing up the whole thing...if you are using for example
> dvd-r while the device can read dvd+r
>
> You can download the TRIAL of dvdinfo pro that will tell you exactly what
> your device is capable of reading
>
> http://www.dvdinfopro.com/index.php
>
> is the original cd with the presentation along with all your copies
> written on the SAME BRAND OF MEDIUM, meaning
> the same brand of blank cd? If so try writing the presentation on a blank
> DVD of a different brand....
>
> why? not all hardware are compatible with all brands of disks....
>
>
>
> "pbl" <> wrote in message
> news:2F3436BA-B3D2-4C89-910A-...
>> Did exactly as you said leap frog - created a new folder on the 2nd
>> notebook, copied all files (384 of them) to that folder, burnt the folder
>> contents to another CD, checked to make sure the new CD 'worked' on the
>> 2nd notebook - yep all working. Placed the new CD into my vista notebook
>> drive and dammit only the three audio files show again. Not to be
>> outsmarted by Vista, I copied all the files to a USB flash drive on the
>> 2nd notebook, inserted it into a spare USB port on my notebook and guess
>> what - the presentation started automatically.
>>
>> So what's going on here?
>>
>> "leap frog vista" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> then do this: create a folder on another computer, dump all the files in
>>> the folder from the cd,
>>> and make a new cd and burn the files from the folder into the new cd.
>>>
>>> I suspect that the image you tried, just creates an exact copy INCLUDING
>>> the split in "tracks" that is causing the problem in the first place.
>>>
>>> Tell me if this works...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "pbl" <> wrote in message
>>> news:04042538-9E04-461F-9BAD-...
>>>> Thanks but I tried this and it didn't work. Actually I created a disk
>>>> image of the first CD and burnt that to a new CD. Is that what you
>>>> meant? I get the same problem - only 3 audio tracks show up and none of
>>>> the other files. Maybe it is a Vista thing because all the other
>>>> computers I have tried it on where it works are XP machines, or maybe
>>>> it is just peculiar to my machine????
>>>>
>>>> "leap frog vista" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> it seems you have a multisession cd that has more than one track, and
>>>>> for some reason the track where the other info is located is not
>>>>> accessible to your vista computer. I have seen this some times.. but
>>>>> mostly with older hardware. V
>>>>>
>>>>> Make a copy of the cd on the laptop computer (by making a new cd -
>>>>> copy) and then use the copy for your vista machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> it will work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "pbl" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:B271711E-1F34-4ECB-BB27-...
>>>>>> Thanks Mick but these aren't powerpoint files, they're flv, which I
>>>>>> think are adobe flash files. Just tried it on my wife's notebook -
>>>>>> works perfectly and noticed all the .flv extensions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mick Murphy" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:0E6EC3C9-7CA9-4020-A569-...
>>>>>>>A lot of presentations are done in Power Point, and application in
>>>>>>>Microsoft
>>>>>>> Office.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Mick Murphy - Qld (Sunshine State) - Australia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "pbl" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a training CD that delivers a presentation with links to
>>>>>>>> video
>>>>>>>> vignettes. It also has three audio files that aren't a part of the
>>>>>>>> presentation. To start the presentation I simply put it in the
>>>>>>>> drive and
>>>>>>>> away it goes. I'm assuming it is an Adobe Flash presentation or
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> similar. If I 'open' the CD to view its contents I can see multiple
>>>>>>>> media
>>>>>>>> files and folders. Well that's what happens for all other computers
>>>>>>>> but with
>>>>>>>> my computer all I can see are the three audio files, there are no
>>>>>>>> folders
>>>>>>>> and no other files are visible at all and of course windows media
>>>>>>>> player or
>>>>>>>> PowerDVD wants to play these 3 audio files. I have the latest
>>>>>>>> version of
>>>>>>>> adobe flash player installed and folder options are set to display
>>>>>>>> hidden
>>>>>>>> files. Any idea what is going on here??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>

Thanks again Leap Frog:

> what brand - model is your notebook?

My System Specs:
Dell XPS M1530 // Intel Core 2 Duo T9500 2.6GHz // Vista Ultimate // 15.4
WSXGA+ // 4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM // 200GB SATA 7200RPM HDD // Blu-ray/DVD/CD
reader/writer // 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT // Sound Blaster Audigy
Advanced HD

> what model exactly is the BR, DVD, CD combo? when you run dvdinfo it says
> the model in a box on the right

MATSHITA BD-RE UJ-225S

Many thanks.

"leap frog vista" <> wrote in message
news:...
> what brand - model is your notebook?
>
> Others might have noticed the same problem with that drive..
>
> it’s a good drive, blue ray is the best technology available now!
>
> and its not the brand of the media, because it’s a commercial cd...
>
> the only other thing I can propose is for you to write the contents on a
> dvd instead of a cd...
>
> this is really weird!
>
> If you tell me the brand and model of the notebook I will take a look
> online
>
> what model exactly is the BR, DVD, CD combo? when you run dvdinfo it says
> the model in a box on the right
>
> for example mine says : HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H55
>
>
>
> "pbl" <> wrote in message
> newsD336EEC-8E50-433E-8E0E-...
>> Sorry for the delay - it's the next day here in Australia. Thanks for
>> your persistance leap frog.
>>
>>> when you plug in the USB drive into vista, (is that what you mean when
>>> you say notebook? vista is on your notebook?)
>>> does it "see" all the files from the usb drive?
>>
>> Yes, the notebook is Vista and it does read all of the files on the USB
>> drive. In fact I also copied them to a folder on my Vista notebook and
>> can run the poresentation there.
>>
>>> I cant explain it any other way.. does the cdrom (or dvdrom) work with
>>> all other disks normally?
>>
>> Yes - it is a Bluray/DVD/CD read/write combo drive. I have never had a
>> problem with it until this problem came along.
>>
>>> Are you sure you are using cdroms? and not DVD roms? if you are using
>>> DVD then there is DVD+R and DVD-R
>>> that may be messing up the whole thing...if you are using for example
>>> dvd-r while the device can read dvd+r
>>
>> The original CD is a Path:
>> x-privat.org!meganewsservers.com!textfeed1.on.megane wsservers.com!gail.ripco.com!news.glorb.com!news.a straweb.com!border2.newsrouter.astraweb.com!flpi08 9.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!flpi088.ffdc.sbc.com!pr odigy.com!flpi107.ffdc.sbc.com!flpi146.ffdc.sbc.co m.POSTED!a6e3ec44!not-for-mail
>> (not DVD) with a macromedia flash presentation on it. I have been using
>> CD-R media to copy the original disk (not DVD+R or DVD-R)
>>
>>> You can download the TRIAL of dvdinfo pro that will tell you exactly
>>> what your device is capable of reading
>>
>> Thanks. Did so. DVDinfoPro tells me the disk drive reads and writes most
>> of the formats available. Reads - CD-R,CD-RW, CD MULTI READ, CD METHOD 2,
>> DVD-R, DVD-R DL, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+R DL, DVD+RW, DVD-RAM, DVD-ROM,
>> BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE. Writes - CD-R, CD-RW, CD SAO/RAW, CD TAO, DVD-R,
>> DVD-R DL, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+R DL, DVD+RW, DVD-RAM, BUFFER UNDERRUN, TEST
>> WRITE, BD-R, BD-RE.
>>
>>> is the original cd with the presentation along with all your copies
>>> written on the SAME BRAND OF MEDIUM, meaning
>>> the same brand of blank cd? If so try writing the presentation on a
>>> blank DVD of a different brand....
>>
>> As indicated the original CD is a comercial disk so I don't know what
>> brand it is. Also the media that I used to copy the disk worked on
>> another XP computer just like to original with all files showing up.
>>
>> This is an absolute mystery to me.
>>
>>
>> "leap frog vista" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Indeed this is extremely strange! Hmmmmmm
>>>
>>> when you plug in the USB drive into vista, (is that what you mean when
>>> you say notebook? vista is on your notebook?)
>>> does it "see" all the files from the usb drive?
>>>
>>> If so then its not vista that’s the problem.. something is wrong with
>>> your cd rom drive... !
>>>
>>> I cant explain it any other way.. does the cdrom (or dvdrom) work with
>>> all other disks normally?
>>>
>>> Are you sure you are using cdroms? and not DVD roms? if you are using
>>> DVD then there is DVD+R and DVD-R
>>> that may be messing up the whole thing...if you are using for example
>>> dvd-r while the device can read dvd+r
>>>
>>> You can download the TRIAL of dvdinfo pro that will tell you exactly
>>> what your device is capable of reading
>>>
>>> http://www.dvdinfopro.com/index.php
>>>
>>> is the original cd with the presentation along with all your copies
>>> written on the SAME BRAND OF MEDIUM, meaning
>>> the same brand of blank cd? If so try writing the presentation on a
>>> blank DVD of a different brand....
>>>
>>> why? not all hardware are compatible with all brands of disks....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "pbl" <> wrote in message
>>> news:2F3436BA-B3D2-4C89-910A-...
>>>> Did exactly as you said leap frog - created a new folder on the 2nd
>>>> notebook, copied all files (384 of them) to that folder, burnt the
>>>> folder contents to another CD, checked to make sure the new CD 'worked'
>>>> on the 2nd notebook - yep all working. Placed the new CD into my vista
>>>> notebook drive and dammit only the three audio files show again. Not to
>>>> be outsmarted by Vista, I copied all the files to a USB flash drive on
>>>> the 2nd notebook, inserted it into a spare USB port on my notebook and
>>>> guess what - the presentation started automatically.
>>>>
>>>> So what's going on here?
>>>>
>>>> "leap frog vista" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> then do this: create a folder on another computer, dump all the files
>>>>> in the folder from the cd,
>>>>> and make a new cd and burn the files from the folder into the new cd.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that the image you tried, just creates an exact copy
>>>>> INCLUDING the split in "tracks" that is causing the problem in the
>>>>> first place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell me if this works...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "pbl" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:04042538-9E04-461F-9BAD-...
>>>>>> Thanks but I tried this and it didn't work. Actually I created a disk
>>>>>> image of the first CD and burnt that to a new CD. Is that what you
>>>>>> meant? I get the same problem - only 3 audio tracks show up and none
>>>>>> of the other files. Maybe it is a Vista thing because all the other
>>>>>> computers I have tried it on where it works are XP machines, or maybe
>>>>>> it is just peculiar to my machine????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "leap frog vista" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it seems you have a multisession cd that has more than one track,
>>>>>>> and for some reason the track where the other info is located is not
>>>>>>> accessible to your vista computer. I have seen this some times.. but
>>>>>>> mostly with older hardware. V
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Make a copy of the cd on the laptop computer (by making a new cd -
>>>>>>> copy) and then use the copy for your vista machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it will work
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "pbl" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:B271711E-1F34-4ECB-BB27-...
>>>>>>>> Thanks Mick but these aren't powerpoint files, they're flv, which I
>>>>>>>> think are adobe flash files. Just tried it on my wife's notebook -
>>>>>>>> works perfectly and noticed all the .flv extensions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mick Murphy" <> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message news:0E6EC3C9-7CA9-4020-A569-...
>>>>>>>>>A lot of presentations are done in Power Point, and application in
>>>>>>>>>Microsoft
>>>>>>>>> Office.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Mick Murphy - Qld (Sunshine State) - Australia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "pbl" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a training CD that delivers a presentation with links to
>>>>>>>>>> video
>>>>>>>>>> vignettes. It also has three audio files that aren't a part of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> presentation. To start the presentation I simply put it in the
>>>>>>>>>> drive and
>>>>>>>>>> away it goes. I'm assuming it is an Adobe Flash presentation or
>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>> similar. If I 'open' the CD to view its contents I can see
>>>>>>>>>> multiple media
>>>>>>>>>> files and folders. Well that's what happens for all other
>>>>>>>>>> computers but with
>>>>>>>>>> my computer all I can see are the three audio files, there are no
>>>>>>>>>> folders
>>>>>>>>>> and no other files are visible at all and of course windows media
>>>>>>>>>> player or
>>>>>>>>>> PowerDVD wants to play these 3 audio files. I have the latest
>>>>>>>>>> version of
>>>>>>>>>> adobe flash player installed and folder options are set to
>>>>>>>>>> display hidden
>>>>>>>>>> files. Any idea what is going on here??
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>