File Access

Vista Home Premium.

This is my home PC, and I have Administrator rights. How can I get full
access to every file and directory on my PC?

Regards
Doug

"The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
news:94D0906C-101A-4BEC-B71B-...
> Vista Home Premium.
>
> This is my home PC, and I have Administrator rights. How can I get full
> access to every file and directory on my PC?
>
> Regards
> Doug

What files and folders do you believe you do not have access to? And why do
you need access to them ?

--

Mike Brannigan

"The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
news:94D0906C-101A-4BEC-B71B-...
> Vista Home Premium.
>
> This is my home PC, and I have Administrator rights. How can I get full
> access to every file and directory on my PC?

What specific folders are you talking about? Without knowing more here is
some info.

There are certain folders that you don't need access too because they don't
contain data, they contain a pointer to the location in Vista where those
files are located.

These folders are visible because you elected to show hidden files/folders
and display protected Operating system files and folders. They are hidden
for a reason. They hold no data.

Certain folders used in XP, such as Documents and Settings, were brought
into Vista for compatibility for legacy apps. They are not used to store
data. They appear dimmed with the shortcut arrow and give access denied. If
you want to see what folder it points to, open a elevated command prompt,
navigate to the folder that contains the folder in question and give the
command:
dir /al

Junction points are designated by <Junction> and the folder to which it
points is at the end of the line in square brackets. Do not change the
permissions on these junction points. It can cause problems for the same
legacy apps they are they for in the first place.

From a post by Jimmy Brush here is a list of the these XP folders and their
corresponding locations in Vista:
Windows XP Location Windows Vista Location
\Documents and Settings \Users
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents \Users\$USER$\Documents
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Music \Users\$USER$\Music
\Documents and Settings \$USER$\My Documents\My Pictures
\Users\$USER$\Pictures
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Videos
\Users\$USER$\Videos
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Application Data
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Cookies
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Co okies
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\NetHood
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Ne twork Shortcuts
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\PrintHood
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Pr inter Shortcuts
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Recent
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Re cent
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\SendTo
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Se ndTo
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Start Menu
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\St art Menu
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Templates
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Te mplates\Documents and
Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Application Data
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\History
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Hist ory
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temp orary Internet Files
\Documents and Settings\All Users \ProgramData
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data \ProgramData
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop \Users\Public\Desktop
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents \Users\Public\Documents
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Favorites \Users\Public\Favorites
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu
\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Templates
\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Templates
\Documents and Settings\Default User \Users\Default "


--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:5AC33743-C39A-4AD9-81D5-...
> "The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
> news:94D0906C-101A-4BEC-B71B-...
>> Vista Home Premium.
>>
>> This is my home PC, and I have Administrator rights. How can I get full
>> access to every file and directory on my PC?
>>
>> Regards
>> Doug
>
> What files and folders do you believe you do not have access to? And why
> do you need access to them ?
>
> --
OK. First when I tried to bring Outlook 2003 into Vista I was prevented
from bringing the following files in, because they are kept under
Application Data. These files are outlook.xml. outlook.NK2 ,etc. This was
access denied.

Then I installed my legal copy of Everest Ultimate. The licence tells me to
add a .txt to the Everest in Program Files. Access denied.

Why do I need a reason? It is simply a home PC, and I know what I want to
do. Pls help

Regards
Doug

See my answer to Mike


"Rock" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> "The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
> news:94D0906C-101A-4BEC-B71B-...
>> Vista Home Premium.
>>
>> This is my home PC, and I have Administrator rights. How can I get full
>> access to every file and directory on my PC?
>
> What specific folders are you talking about? Without knowing more here is
> some info.
>
> There are certain folders that you don't need access too because they
> don't contain data, they contain a pointer to the location in Vista where
> those files are located.
>
> These folders are visible because you elected to show hidden files/folders
> and display protected Operating system files and folders. They are hidden
> for a reason. They hold no data.
>
> Certain folders used in XP, such as Documents and Settings, were brought
> into Vista for compatibility for legacy apps. They are not used to store
> data. They appear dimmed with the shortcut arrow and give access denied.
> If you want to see what folder it points to, open a elevated command
> prompt, navigate to the folder that contains the folder in question and
> give the command:
> dir /al
>
> Junction points are designated by <Junction> and the folder to which it
> points is at the end of the line in square brackets. Do not change the
> permissions on these junction points. It can cause problems for the same
> legacy apps they are they for in the first place.
>
> From a post by Jimmy Brush here is a list of the these XP folders and
> their corresponding locations in Vista:
> Windows XP Location Windows Vista Location
> \Documents and Settings \Users
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents \Users\$USER$\Documents
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Music \Users\$USER$\Music
> \Documents and Settings \$USER$\My Documents\My Pictures
> \Users\$USER$\Pictures
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Videos
> \Users\$USER$\Videos
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Application Data
> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Cookies
> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Co okies
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings
> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\NetHood
> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Ne twork Shortcuts
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\PrintHood
> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Pr inter Shortcuts
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Recent
> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Re cent
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\SendTo
> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Se ndTo
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Start Menu
> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\St art Menu
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Templates
> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Te mplates\Documents and
> Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Application Data
> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\History
> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Hist ory
> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temp orary Internet Files
> \Documents and Settings\All Users \ProgramData
> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data \ProgramData
> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop \Users\Public\Desktop
> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents \Users\Public\Documents
> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Favorites \Users\Public\Favorites
> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu
> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Templates
> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Templates
> \Documents and Settings\Default User \Users\Default "
>
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

the Application Data contents have been moved to a similar folder under USERS - USER NAME. there maybe an option in Outlook to show the complete NEW path.

what kind of file are you trying to change to
..txt
there maybe a reasonable reason why the system does not want to allow you.
it is not unusual to get a permission window to click on to say yes this is what I really want to do.

these things are usually caused the USC, user access control.
built in security to prevent programs (virus/malware) from making unauthorized system changes.








"The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message news:...

"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:5AC33743-C39A-4AD9-81D5-...
> "The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
> news:94D0906C-101A-4BEC-B71B-...
>> Vista Home Premium.
>>
>> This is my home PC, and I have Administrator rights. How can I get full
>> access to every file and directory on my PC?
>>
>> Regards
>> Doug
>
> What files and folders do you believe you do not have access to? And why
> do you need access to them ?
>
> --
OK. First when I tried to bring Outlook 2003 into Vista I was prevented
from bringing the following files in, because they are kept under
Application Data. These files are outlook.xml. outlook.NK2 ,etc. This was
access denied.

Then I installed my legal copy of Everest Ultimate. The licence tells me to
add a .txt to the Everest in Program Files. Access denied.

Why do I need a reason? It is simply a home PC, and I know what I want to
do. Pls help

Regards
Doug

No I have disabled UAC. It is not that. I know precisely what I want to do. I don't want people to ask me why. But I have answered this in this thread.

The question still is, "How can I get access to everything?" If I want to be locked out I could buy a Mac, or have a System Administrator.

Regards
Doug
"mikeyhsd" <> wrote in message news:...
the Application Data contents have been moved to a similar folder under USERS - USER NAME. there maybe an option in Outlook to show the complete NEW path.

what kind of file are you trying to change to
.txt
there maybe a reasonable reason why the system does not want to allow you.
it is not unusual to get a permission window to click on to say yes this is what I really want to do.

these things are usually caused the USC, user access control.
built in security to prevent programs (virus/malware) from making unauthorized system changes.








"The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message news:...

"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:5AC33743-C39A-4AD9-81D5-...
> "The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
> news:94D0906C-101A-4BEC-B71B-...
>> Vista Home Premium.
>>
>> This is my home PC, and I have Administrator rights. How can I get full
>> access to every file and directory on my PC?
>>
>> Regards
>> Doug
>
> What files and folders do you believe you do not have access to? And why
> do you need access to them ?
>
> --
OK. First when I tried to bring Outlook 2003 into Vista I was prevented
from bringing the following files in, because they are kept under
Application Data. These files are outlook.xml. outlook.NK2 ,etc. This was
access denied.

Then I installed my legal copy of Everest Ultimate. The licence tells me to
add a .txt to the Everest in Program Files. Access denied.

Why do I need a reason? It is simply a home PC, and I know what I want to
do. Pls help

Regards
Doug

In Vista, the Ownership of certain Folders & Files is assigned to the
"Trusted Installer". It is possible to re-assign or overwrite Ownership
and the ACLs for any number of secured folder trees. HOWEVER,
it can break other things and cause problems that won't be readily
visible. This is a "Tuning/Adjustment" that can backfire on you. I'd be
reluctant to make changes like that. If you do attempt it - be sure to
take a system image beforehand.

It might be helpful to do a web search on "Trusted Installer" and how
it functions within Vista.

"The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
news:...
No I have disabled UAC. It is not that. I know precisely what I want to
do. I don't want people to ask me why. But I have answered this in this
thread.

The question still is, "How can I get access to everything?" If I want to
be locked out I could buy a Mac, or have a System Administrator.

Regards
Doug
"mikeyhsd" <> wrote in message
news:...
the Application Data contents have been moved to a similar folder under
USERS - USER NAME. there maybe an option in Outlook to show the complete NEW
path.

what kind of file are you trying to change to
.txt
there maybe a reasonable reason why the system does not want to allow you.
it is not unusual to get a permission window to click on to say yes this
is what I really want to do.

these things are usually caused the USC, user access control.
built in security to prevent programs (virus/malware) from making
unauthorized system changes.








"The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
news:...

"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:5AC33743-C39A-4AD9-81D5-...
> "The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
> news:94D0906C-101A-4BEC-B71B-...
>> Vista Home Premium.
>>
>> This is my home PC, and I have Administrator rights. How can I get
full
>> access to every file and directory on my PC?
>>
>> Regards
>> Doug
>
> What files and folders do you believe you do not have access to? And
why
> do you need access to them ?
>
> --
OK. First when I tried to bring Outlook 2003 into Vista I was prevented
from bringing the following files in, because they are kept under
Application Data. These files are outlook.xml. outlook.NK2 ,etc. This
was
access denied.

Then I installed my legal copy of Everest Ultimate. The licence tells
me to
add a .txt to the Everest in Program Files. Access denied.

Why do I need a reason? It is simply a home PC, and I know what I want
to
do. Pls help

Regards
Doug

"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:...
> In Vista, the Ownership of certain Folders & Files is assigned to the
> "Trusted Installer". It is possible to re-assign or overwrite Ownership
> and the ACLs for any number of secured folder trees. HOWEVER,
> it can break other things and cause problems that won't be readily
> visible. This is a "Tuning/Adjustment" that can backfire on you. I'd be
> reluctant to make changes like that. If you do attempt it - be sure to
> take a system image beforehand.
>
> It might be helpful to do a web search on "Trusted Installer" and how
> it functions within Vista.

Thanks Mate.
I only have a very basic install so far. It is a home installation, and no
server or "workgroup" involved. Only one user. As you can see from my
initial problems, I can't move forward till I solve these issues. If the
whole thing goes bellyup, so be it. I have my old XP PC which is what I am
using to type this response.

Regards
Doug
>
> "The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> No I have disabled UAC. It is not that. I know precisely what I want to
> do. I don't want people to ask me why. But I have answered this in this
> thread.
>
> The question still is, "How can I get access to everything?" If I want to
> be locked out I could buy a Mac, or have a System Administrator.
>
> Regards
> Doug
> "mikeyhsd" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> the Application Data contents have been moved to a similar folder under
> USERS - USER NAME. there maybe an option in Outlook to show the complete
> NEW path.
>
> what kind of file are you trying to change to
> .txt
> there maybe a reasonable reason why the system does not want to allow
> you.
> it is not unusual to get a permission window to click on to say yes this
> is what I really want to do.
>
> these things are usually caused the USC, user access control.
> built in security to prevent programs (virus/malware) from making
> unauthorized system changes.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
> news:5AC33743-C39A-4AD9-81D5-...
> > "The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
> > news:94D0906C-101A-4BEC-B71B-...
> >> Vista Home Premium.
> >>
> >> This is my home PC, and I have Administrator rights. How can I get
> full
> >> access to every file and directory on my PC?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Doug
> >
> > What files and folders do you believe you do not have access to? And
> why
> > do you need access to them ?
> >
> > --
> OK. First when I tried to bring Outlook 2003 into Vista I was
> prevented
> from bringing the following files in, because they are kept under
> Application Data. These files are outlook.xml. outlook.NK2 ,etc. This
> was
> access denied.
>
> Then I installed my legal copy of Everest Ultimate. The licence tells
> me to
> add a .txt to the Everest in Program Files. Access denied.
>
> Why do I need a reason? It is simply a home PC, and I know what I want
> to
> do. Pls help
>
> Regards
> Doug
>
>
>

The O/S is what it is. I have learned to live with it in this fashion. It is
NOT going to allow me to do certain things that I could do in older systems.
If I don't like it - I have the option of changing to a different O/S that
will allow me to do exactly what I want to do when I want to do it.

I also know that there is no such modern O/S. They all impose constraints
upon me, as a user.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
news:...
> See my answer to Mike
>
>
> "Rock" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> "The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
>> news:94D0906C-101A-4BEC-B71B-...
>>> Vista Home Premium.
>>>
>>> This is my home PC, and I have Administrator rights. How can I get full
>>> access to every file and directory on my PC?
>>
>> What specific folders are you talking about? Without knowing more here
>> is some info.
>>
>> There are certain folders that you don't need access too because they
>> don't contain data, they contain a pointer to the location in Vista where
>> those files are located.
>>
>> These folders are visible because you elected to show hidden
>> files/folders and display protected Operating system files and folders.
>> They are hidden for a reason. They hold no data.
>>
>> Certain folders used in XP, such as Documents and Settings, were brought
>> into Vista for compatibility for legacy apps. They are not used to store
>> data. They appear dimmed with the shortcut arrow and give access denied.
>> If you want to see what folder it points to, open a elevated command
>> prompt, navigate to the folder that contains the folder in question and
>> give the command:
>> dir /al
>>
>> Junction points are designated by <Junction> and the folder to which it
>> points is at the end of the line in square brackets. Do not change the
>> permissions on these junction points. It can cause problems for the same
>> legacy apps they are they for in the first place.
>>
>> From a post by Jimmy Brush here is a list of the these XP folders and
>> their corresponding locations in Vista:
>> Windows XP Location Windows Vista Location
>> \Documents and Settings \Users
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents \Users\$USER$\Documents
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Music \Users\$USER$\Music
>> \Documents and Settings \$USER$\My Documents\My Pictures
>> \Users\$USER$\Pictures
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Videos
>> \Users\$USER$\Videos
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Application Data
>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Cookies
>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Co okies
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings
>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\NetHood
>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Ne twork Shortcuts
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\PrintHood
>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Pr inter Shortcuts
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Recent
>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Re cent
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\SendTo
>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Se ndTo
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Start Menu
>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\St art Menu
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Templates
>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Te mplates\Documents and
>> Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Application Data
>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\History
>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Hist ory
>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temp orary Internet Files
>> \Documents and Settings\All Users \ProgramData
>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data \ProgramData
>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop \Users\Public\Desktop
>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents \Users\Public\Documents
>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Favorites \Users\Public\Favorites
>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu
>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Templates
>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Templates
>> \Documents and Settings\Default User \Users\Default "
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>
>