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excalibr
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      02-09-2009

Greetings

I have a network share setup b/w a Vista Ultimate x32 and X
machines. Using the XP machine, I open the Vista hosted share but foun
some files "missing", ie. even though they physically exist in the Vist
machine, I simply cannot see them from XP

Turns out that these files are missing the EVERYONE in the Fil
Permissions (right click file, properties, security).

These are files downloaded using Firefox, and whether they are JPG
AVI, TXT, DOC, XLS they are all missing the EVERYONE permission.

If I download the same files using Internet Explorer, the files ge
created with the EVERYONE permission

My current workarounds ... which none are desirable are this

- Use Internet Explore

- Add EVERYONE permission for each file manually (you have to do thi
one by one, can't select multiple files and perform bulk operation

- Use CMD line utilities like takeown and icacl

Note this is a secure home network, and while file sharing usin
EVEYRONE isn't the safest way to do this, I can finetune this later. Th
key problem at hand is what I've described above

Appreciate any suggestions I'd be happy just to be able to ge
FireFox create files with the full permissions, same way IE does

Thanks, Excalibu

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Rick Rogers
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      02-09-2009
Hi,

You might want to ask the makers of Firefox if this can be done:
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/...port+Home+Page

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"excalibr" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Greetings,
>
> I have a network share setup b/w a Vista Ultimate x32 and XP
> machines. Using the XP machine, I open the Vista hosted share but found
> some files "missing", ie. even though they physically exist in the Vista
> machine, I simply cannot see them from XP.
>
> Turns out that these files are missing the EVERYONE in the File
> Permissions (right click file, properties, security).
>
> These are files downloaded using Firefox, and whether they are JPG,
> AVI, TXT, DOC, XLS they are all missing the EVERYONE permission.
>
> If I download the same files using Internet Explorer, the files get
> created with the EVERYONE permission.
>
> My current workarounds ... which none are desirable are this:
>
> - Use Internet Explorer
>
> - Add EVERYONE permission for each file manually (you have to do this
> one by one, can't select multiple files and perform bulk operation)
>
> - Use CMD line utilities like takeown and icacls
>
> Note this is a secure home network, and while file sharing using
> EVEYRONE isn't the safest way to do this, I can finetune this later. The
> key problem at hand is what I've described above.
>
> Appreciate any suggestions I'd be happy just to be able to get
> FireFox create files with the full permissions, same way IE does.
>
> Thanks, Excalibur
>
>
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      02-09-2009
excalibr <> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I have a network share setup b/w a Vista Ultimate x32 and XP
> machines. Using the XP machine, I open the Vista hosted share but found
> some files "missing", ie. even though they physically exist in the Vista
> machine, I simply cannot see them from XP.
>
> Turns out that these files are missing the EVERYONE in the File
> Permissions (right click file, properties, security).
>
> These are files downloaded using Firefox, and whether they are JPG,
> AVI, TXT, DOC, XLS they are all missing the EVERYONE permission.
>
> If I download the same files using Internet Explorer, the files get
> created with the EVERYONE permission.
>
> My current workarounds ... which none are desirable are this:
>
> - Use Internet Explorer
>
> - Add EVERYONE permission for each file manually (you have to do this
> one by one, can't select multiple files and perform bulk operation)
>
> - Use CMD line utilities like takeown and icacls
>
> Note this is a secure home network, and while file sharing using
> EVEYRONE isn't the safest way to do this, I can finetune this later. The
> key problem at hand is what I've described above.
>
> Appreciate any suggestions I'd be happy just to be able to get
> FireFox create files with the full permissions, same way IE does.


So what the the permissions set on the folder? Or the top level folder that
you are saving these files to? After making sure that the folder has the
Everyone group with read (and write, if you want) permissions, in the
advanced settings, make sure that permissions are cascaded to all child
objects.

If that does not work, replace the Everyone group with the more secure
Authenticated Users group. Firefox make be insisting to be only used in a
more secure way.

If this does not work, I'll have a look on my own machine later on.

ss.


 
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      02-09-2009
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:31:45 -0000, "Synapse Syndrome"
<> wrote:

>So what the the permissions set on the folder? Or the top level folder that
>you are saving these files to? After making sure that the folder has the
>Everyone group with read (and write, if you want) permissions, in the
>advanced settings, make sure that permissions are cascaded to all child
>objects.


My thought too - the folder you are using from FF does not have the
proper permissions, so objects in it inherit the wrong permissions.
 
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      02-09-2009
+Bob+ <> wrote:
>
>> So what the the permissions set on the folder? Or the top level
>> folder that you are saving these files to? After making sure that
>> the folder has the Everyone group with read (and write, if you want)
>> permissions, in the advanced settings, make sure that permissions are
>> cascaded to all child objects.

>
> My thought too - the folder you are using from FF does not have the
> proper permissions, so objects in it inherit the wrong permissions.


Yes, on second look, it must be as simple as that, as a normal application
has no business in setting NTFS permissions on files.

ss.


 
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excalibr
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      02-11-2009

Thanks for the response, but both FF and IE are downloading to the same
folder, and that folder does have EVERYONE

Unless FF and IE uses a different TEMPORARY folder to stage the
downloads, then move it out to the final destination folder. In any
case, I don't know where these temp folders are located.

Excalibur


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davebd
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      04-09-2009

hi excaliber,
i'm having the exact same issue... it worked ok in the past with FF,
but now with FF3, it doesnt.

did you find a solution for this? i'd appreciate if you can share it,
as this thing is driving me nuts!

thanks,
david.


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      04-15-2009

Hi davebd,

Sadly no, haven't found a solution.

The workaround is to copy the files you need to a temp subfolder, then
move and overwrite the original. The COPY operation will create new
files with good permissions.

Excalibur


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