Files on D from XP have strange user under Security.

Hey.
When going from XP Home to Vista Ultimate i had all my files that I needed
on D:.
Now I have some problems with files on D:
The porblem I get is that files that I had there form XP, I cant move
without Admin status (have to click on Continue in a window) and other
things like that.
New files that I download I can do whatever I want to (as I am the owner of
them).

I guessed it had something to do with user rights.
So I looked at some files security tab and there is a User with a "?" on the
user icon and with a name starting with "S-1-5-21-..." and like 20 more
numbers and some files and folders have other groups there then others (some
of them have "Creator Owner" and some have others).
None of the files or folders have the "Certified Users" group (or what ever
it is cald in English Vista) that the folders on C: have.
So I guess this was there from XP?
Anyway so I went to the Security tap for D: and set my user name to owner of
all the files on D:.
So now in security on all the file my name is where the S-1-5-21-..." user
was.
But on some of the folders and files that user is still there and my user
did not get added as owner.
So for some reason some folders did not get the settings I changed for D:.

What I'm trying to say is that the security settings on all the files on D:
are a mess.

I'm guessing this is the same problem others are having that complain about
having to always click on bottons just to move a file and not being able to
edit and save text files with notepad.
I got this to not happen by setting my user as owner.
But as I said, some files and folders did not change.

What I want to know is if there is a way to reset/remove all the Security
settings on all the files and foulders on D: so they dont have security
settings from XP on them anymore and get the settings (Users and Groups)
that Vista wants them to have.

I'm glad my 300 GB External HDD dont have security settings on any files.
I just found out that moving files to my External HDD and back removes the
security settings and makes new ones so I'm thinking about just moveing
everything on D: over to the External HDD and then back (just have to make
some room first.

Sorry if this is not typed wary good.
Its late and I am realy tierd.
And my Eenglish is maybe not the best in the world

Any help is more then welcome.
Thanks.
And I hope this might help someone else having problems with this.

Ops sorry for the dobble post. I got a strange error on the first one so I
did not think it was posted.
I guessed maybe it was the ":" on the topic so I reposted with out it.
Guess I was wrong

"Trond" <> wrote in message
news:C4C0EBBB-489B-46CB-A7B5-...
> Hey.
> When going from XP Home to Vista Ultimate i had all my files that I needed
> on D:.
> Now I have some problems with files on D:
> The porblem I get is that files that I had there form XP, I cant move
> without Admin status (have to click on Continue in a window) and other
> things like that.
> New files that I download I can do whatever I want to (as I am the owner
> of
> them).
>
> I guessed it had something to do with user rights.
> So I looked at some files security tab and there is a User with a "?" on
> the
> user icon and with a name starting with "S-1-5-21-..." and like 20 more
> numbers and some files and folders have other groups there then others
> (some
> of them have "Creator Owner" and some have others).
> None of the files or folders have the "Certified Users" group (or what
> ever
> it is cald in English Vista) that the folders on C: have.
> So I guess this was there from XP?
> Anyway so I went to the Security tap for D: and set my user name to owner
> of
> all the files on D:.
> So now in security on all the file my name is where the S-1-5-21-..." user
> was.
> But on some of the folders and files that user is still there and my user
> did not get added as owner.
> So for some reason some folders did not get the settings I changed for D:.
>
> What I'm trying to say is that the security settings on all the files on
> D:
> are a mess.
>
> I'm guessing this is the same problem others are having that complain
> about
> having to always click on bottons just to move a file and not being able
> to
> edit and save text files with notepad.
> I got this to not happen by setting my user as owner.
> But as I said, some files and folders did not change.
>
> What I want to know is if there is a way to reset/remove all the Security
> settings on all the files and foulders on D: so they dont have security
> settings from XP on them anymore and get the settings (Users and Groups)
> that Vista wants them to have.
>
> I'm glad my 300 GB External HDD dont have security settings on any files.
> I just found out that moving files to my External HDD and back removes the
> security settings and makes new ones so I'm thinking about just moveing
> everything on D: over to the External HDD and then back (just have to
> make
> some room first.
>
> Sorry if this is not typed wary good.
> Its late and I am realy tierd.
> And my Eenglish is maybe not the best in the world
>
> Any help is more then welcome.
> Thanks.
> And I hope this might help someone else having problems with this.
>

Did you check the box at the bottom of one of the take owner dialogs to
"Replace owner on subcontainers and objects"

Right click, select Properties, click on Security, click on Owners tab then
click on Edit button.

"DGuess" <> skrev i melding
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> "Trond" <> wrote in message
> news:C4C0EBBB-489B-46CB-A7B5-...
>> Hey.
>> When going from XP Home to Vista Ultimate i had all my files that I
>> needed
>> on D:.
>> Now I have some problems with files on D:
>> The porblem I get is that files that I had there form XP, I cant move
>> without Admin status (have to click on Continue in a window) and other
>> things like that.
>> New files that I download I can do whatever I want to (as I am the owner
>> of
>> them).
>>
>> I guessed it had something to do with user rights.
>> So I looked at some files security tab and there is a User with a "?" on
>> the
>> user icon and with a name starting with "S-1-5-21-..." and like 20 more
>> numbers and some files and folders have other groups there then others
>> (some
>> of them have "Creator Owner" and some have others).
>> None of the files or folders have the "Certified Users" group (or what
>> ever
>> it is cald in English Vista) that the folders on C: have.
>> So I guess this was there from XP?
>> Anyway so I went to the Security tap for D: and set my user name to owner
>> of
>> all the files on D:.
>> So now in security on all the file my name is where the S-1-5-21-..."
>> user
>> was.
>> But on some of the folders and files that user is still there and my user
>> did not get added as owner.
>> So for some reason some folders did not get the settings I changed for
>> D:.
>>
>> What I'm trying to say is that the security settings on all the files on
>> D:
>> are a mess.
>>
>> I'm guessing this is the same problem others are having that complain
>> about
>> having to always click on bottons just to move a file and not being able
>> to
>> edit and save text files with notepad.
>> I got this to not happen by setting my user as owner.
>> But as I said, some files and folders did not change.
>>
>> What I want to know is if there is a way to reset/remove all the Security
>> settings on all the files and foulders on D: so they dont have security
>> settings from XP on them anymore and get the settings (Users and Groups)
>> that Vista wants them to have.
>>
>> I'm glad my 300 GB External HDD dont have security settings on any files.
>> I just found out that moving files to my External HDD and back removes
>> the
>> security settings and makes new ones so I'm thinking about just moveing
>> everything on D: over to the External HDD and then back (just have to
>> make
>> some room first.
>>
>> Sorry if this is not typed wary good.
>> Its late and I am realy tierd.
>> And my Eenglish is maybe not the best in the world
>>
>> Any help is more then welcome.
>> Thanks.
>> And I hope this might help someone else having problems with this.
>>
>
> Did you check the box at the bottom of one of the take owner dialogs to
> "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects"
>
> Right click, select Properties, click on Security, click on Owners tab
> then click on Edit button.
>
>
>

Thanks for the reply.
Yes thats what I did.
Many files changed but not all of them for some reason.
Well I guess I just have to move all the files that did not change to the
External HDD to get them fixed.

> Thanks for the reply.
> Yes thats what I did.
> Many files changed but not all of them for some reason.
> Well I guess I just have to move all the files that did not change to the
> External HDD to get them fixed.
Did you tried to move the files that did not change to the Public folder? By
default Vista should grant full access to such files.

G. Born (Germany)

Trond

If you are familiar with using a command prompt, you might want to try using
the "takeown" command. Go to Start and type cmd right click cmd.exe and
select "Run as administrator", type takeown /? to see all of the commands
options.



--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Trond" <> wrote in message
news:C4C0EBBB-489B-46CB-A7B5-...
> Hey.
> When going from XP Home to Vista Ultimate i had all my files that I needed
> on D:.
> Now I have some problems with files on D:
> The porblem I get is that files that I had there form XP, I cant move
> without Admin status (have to click on Continue in a window) and other
> things like that.
> New files that I download I can do whatever I want to (as I am the owner
> of
> them).
>
> I guessed it had something to do with user rights.
> So I looked at some files security tab and there is a User with a "?" on
> the
> user icon and with a name starting with "S-1-5-21-..." and like 20 more
> numbers and some files and folders have other groups there then others
> (some
> of them have "Creator Owner" and some have others).
> None of the files or folders have the "Certified Users" group (or what
> ever
> it is cald in English Vista) that the folders on C: have.
> So I guess this was there from XP?
> Anyway so I went to the Security tap for D: and set my user name to owner
> of
> all the files on D:.
> So now in security on all the file my name is where the S-1-5-21-..." user
> was.
> But on some of the folders and files that user is still there and my user
> did not get added as owner.
> So for some reason some folders did not get the settings I changed for D:.
>
> What I'm trying to say is that the security settings on all the files on
> D:
> are a mess.
>
> I'm guessing this is the same problem others are having that complain
> about
> having to always click on bottons just to move a file and not being able
> to
> edit and save text files with notepad.
> I got this to not happen by setting my user as owner.
> But as I said, some files and folders did not change.
>
> What I want to know is if there is a way to reset/remove all the Security
> settings on all the files and foulders on D: so they dont have security
> settings from XP on them anymore and get the settings (Users and Groups)
> that Vista wants them to have.
>
> I'm glad my 300 GB External HDD dont have security settings on any files.
> I just found out that moving files to my External HDD and back removes the
> security settings and makes new ones so I'm thinking about just moveing
> everything on D: over to the External HDD and then back (just have to
> make
> some room first.
>
> Sorry if this is not typed wary good.
> Its late and I am realy tierd.
> And my Eenglish is maybe not the best in the world
>
> Any help is more then welcome.
> Thanks.
> And I hope this might help someone else having problems with this.
>

Yes I know how to use command prompt.
I did not know about the takeown command but I found it easyer to just move
everything like i said.
That fixed the problem with just a few drag and drops
Oh and a few "yes I want to be administrator and move the file"

So now its much easyer to move my old files without that problem anymore.
I still find it strange that some files would not remove "S-1-5-21-..." and
set me as owner.
Hmm..

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" <> skrev i melding
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> Trond
>
> If you are familiar with using a command prompt, you might want to try
> using the "takeown" command. Go to Start and type cmd right click
> cmd.exe and select "Run as administrator", type takeown /? to see all of
> the commands options.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Trond" <> wrote in message
> news:C4C0EBBB-489B-46CB-A7B5-...
>> Hey.
>> When going from XP Home to Vista Ultimate i had all my files that I
>> needed
>> on D:.
>> Now I have some problems with files on D:
>> The porblem I get is that files that I had there form XP, I cant move
>> without Admin status (have to click on Continue in a window) and other
>> things like that.
>> New files that I download I can do whatever I want to (as I am the owner
>> of
>> them).
>>
>> I guessed it had something to do with user rights.
>> So I looked at some files security tab and there is a User with a "?" on
>> the
>> user icon and with a name starting with "S-1-5-21-..." and like 20 more
>> numbers and some files and folders have other groups there then others
>> (some
>> of them have "Creator Owner" and some have others).
>> None of the files or folders have the "Certified Users" group (or what
>> ever
>> it is cald in English Vista) that the folders on C: have.
>> So I guess this was there from XP?
>> Anyway so I went to the Security tap for D: and set my user name to owner
>> of
>> all the files on D:.
>> So now in security on all the file my name is where the S-1-5-21-..."
>> user
>> was.
>> But on some of the folders and files that user is still there and my user
>> did not get added as owner.
>> So for some reason some folders did not get the settings I changed for
>> D:.
>>
>> What I'm trying to say is that the security settings on all the files on
>> D:
>> are a mess.
>>
>> I'm guessing this is the same problem others are having that complain
>> about
>> having to always click on bottons just to move a file and not being able
>> to
>> edit and save text files with notepad.
>> I got this to not happen by setting my user as owner.
>> But as I said, some files and folders did not change.
>>
>> What I want to know is if there is a way to reset/remove all the Security
>> settings on all the files and foulders on D: so they dont have security
>> settings from XP on them anymore and get the settings (Users and Groups)
>> that Vista wants them to have.
>>
>> I'm glad my 300 GB External HDD dont have security settings on any files.
>> I just found out that moving files to my External HDD and back removes
>> the
>> security settings and makes new ones so I'm thinking about just moveing
>> everything on D: over to the External HDD and then back (just have to
>> make
>> some room first.
>>
>> Sorry if this is not typed wary good.
>> Its late and I am realy tierd.
>> And my Eenglish is maybe not the best in the world
>>
>> Any help is more then welcome.
>> Thanks.
>> And I hope this might help someone else having problems with this.
>>
>