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Saucy
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      07-31-2007
[Firefox update fixes bug brace]

"...Mozilla has pushed out a new version of Firefox that fixes a brace of
security bugs, barely a fortnight after its last update..."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/31/firefox_update/

Like I've said over and over .. FireFox is raw .. untried .. and more holes
than swiss cheese. Internet Explorer is the system that has gone through the
fires of security hell to emerge on the other side as IE7.

Saucy

 
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Jeff N.
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      07-31-2007
IE is such a useless browser, I'll take the risk...

Jeff

Saucy wrote:
> [Firefox update fixes bug brace]
>
> "...Mozilla has pushed out a new version of Firefox that fixes a
> brace of security bugs, barely a fortnight after its last update..."
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/31/firefox_update/
>
> Like I've said over and over .. FireFox is raw .. untried .. and more
> holes than swiss cheese. Internet Explorer is the system that has
> gone through the fires of security hell to emerge on the other side
> as IE7.
> Saucy



 
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      07-31-2007


"Jeff N." <> wrote in message
news:...
> IE is such a useless browser, I'll take the risk...
>
> Jeff
>
> Saucy wrote:
>> [Firefox update fixes bug brace]
>>
>> "...Mozilla has pushed out a new version of Firefox that fixes a
>> brace of security bugs, barely a fortnight after its last update..."
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/31/firefox_update/
>>
>> Like I've said over and over .. FireFox is raw .. untried .. and more
>> holes than swiss cheese. Internet Explorer is the system that has
>> gone through the fires of security hell to emerge on the other side
>> as IE7.
>> Saucy

>
>
>

Oh dear anti Firefox now. IE is not a patch on FF and if you know how to use
it there are not holes in it. Like any other good product research is
ongoing and I expect and get regular update free from mozilla.



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      07-31-2007
Saucy wrote:
> [Firefox update fixes bug brace]
>
> "...Mozilla has pushed out a new version of Firefox that fixes a brace
> of security bugs, barely a fortnight after its last update..."
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/31/firefox_update/
>
> Like I've said over and over .. FireFox is raw .. untried .. and more
> holes than swiss cheese.


Not what the article you quote says. Ergo, it's your ill informed
opinion and not based on facts.

> Internet Explorer is the system that has gone
> through the fires of security hell to emerge on the other side as IE7.
>
> Saucy


IE 7 is still more vulnerable than Fire Fox and always will be, just
like Windows is more vulnerable than Linux or the Mac and always will be.

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      07-31-2007
Alias wrote:


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>
> IE 7 is still more vulnerable than Fire Fox and always will be, just
> like Windows is more vulnerable than Linux or the Mac and always will be.
>



Only in your dreams you liar!
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      07-31-2007
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> IE 7 is still more vulnerable than Fire Fox and always will be, just
>> like Windows is more vulnerable than Linux or the Mac and always will be.
>>

>
>
> Only in your dreams you liar!
> Frank


Blustering again, eh? Nothing I stated is a lie and you can't prove
otherwise. All you can do is scream, shout and bluster all over the
place like a deranged orangutan.

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      07-31-2007
Jeanette wrote:

Almost every windows update has an IE security fix in it. Firefox
instead of doing security patches releases a new version. They are
finding and patching holes quickly instead of waiting a month to release
them.

If you desire real security in Firefox you can use the no script plugin
which allows you to view sites without using java script, which is what
is usually the source of exploits.

No Script plugin allows you to determine trusted sites to whitelist so
they can run scripts.

Saucy wrote:
> [Firefox update fixes bug brace]
>
> "...Mozilla has pushed out a new version of Firefox that fixes a brace
> of security bugs, barely a fortnight after its last update..."
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/31/firefox_update/
>
> Like I've said over and over .. FireFox is raw .. untried .. and more
> holes than swiss cheese. Internet Explorer is the system that has gone
> through the fires of security hell to emerge on the other side as IE7.
>
> Saucy
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      07-31-2007
"Jeanette" <> wrote in message
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> Jeanette wrote:
>
> Almost every windows update has an IE security fix in it. Firefox instead
> of doing security patches releases a new version. They are finding and
> patching holes quickly instead of waiting a month to release them.
>
> If you desire real security in Firefox you can use the no script plugin
> which allows you to view sites without using java script, which is what is
> usually the source of exploits.
>
> No Script plugin allows you to determine trusted sites to whitelist so
> they can run scripts.
>
> Saucy wrote:
>> [Firefox update fixes bug brace]
>>
>> "...Mozilla has pushed out a new version of Firefox that fixes a brace of
>> security bugs, barely a fortnight after its last update..."
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/31/firefox_update/
>>
>> Like I've said over and over .. FireFox is raw .. untried .. and more
>> holes than swiss cheese. Internet Explorer is the system that has gone
>> through the fires of security hell to emerge on the other side as IE7.
>>
>> Saucy
>>



Hi Jeanette:

You are wise there because you hit one of the nails on the head. Scripting,
whether IE or FF [or any other] is a major source of exploit.

Here, I browse with it off. If the site seems 'legit' and I want to see it
better etc. etc. I add it to my Trusted Zone [which is raised to
medium-high+ rather than the default medium] and refresh. I also use a
hosts file which dead-sinks [to localhost] many of the advertisement domains
such as double-click [which also contain scripts].

I personally got one virus since 1996 and that is because I ignored a
warning to patch while running IIS on Windows 2000 - my bad. Otherwise,
AFAICT, I've not been exploited even once. But I attribute that muchly to
turning off scripting for general browsing and only allowing it for
seemingly legitmate websites.

Nevertheless, IMHO, FF is, well, unproven. Its exploits are more basic and I
would venture there are many yet to be uncovered. IE, on the otherhand, is
much more tried, the discovered exploits are more esoteric [and difficult]
and it probably doesn't have too many more majors ones yet to find.

Saucy

 
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      07-31-2007
Saucy wrote:
> "Jeanette" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Jeanette wrote:
>>
>> Almost every windows update has an IE security fix in it. Firefox
>> instead of doing security patches releases a new version. They are
>> finding and patching holes quickly instead of waiting a month to
>> release them.
>>
>> If you desire real security in Firefox you can use the no script
>> plugin which allows you to view sites without using java script, which
>> is what is usually the source of exploits.
>>
>> No Script plugin allows you to determine trusted sites to whitelist so
>> they can run scripts.
>>
>> Saucy wrote:
>>> [Firefox update fixes bug brace]
>>>
>>> "...Mozilla has pushed out a new version of Firefox that fixes a
>>> brace of security bugs, barely a fortnight after its last update..."
>>>
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/31/firefox_update/
>>>
>>> Like I've said over and over .. FireFox is raw .. untried .. and more
>>> holes than swiss cheese. Internet Explorer is the system that has
>>> gone through the fires of security hell to emerge on the other side
>>> as IE7.
>>>
>>> Saucy
>>>

>
>
> Hi Jeanette:
>
> You are wise there because you hit one of the nails on the head.
> Scripting, whether IE or FF [or any other] is a major source of exploit.
>
> Here, I browse with it off. If the site seems 'legit' and I want to see
> it better etc. etc. I add it to my Trusted Zone [which is raised to
> medium-high+ rather than the default medium] and refresh. I also use a
> hosts file which dead-sinks [to localhost] many of the advertisement
> domains such as double-click [which also contain scripts].
>
> I personally got one virus since 1996 and that is because I ignored a
> warning to patch while running IIS on Windows 2000 - my bad. Otherwise,
> AFAICT, I've not been exploited even once. But I attribute that muchly
> to turning off scripting for general browsing and only allowing it for
> seemingly legitmate websites.
>
> Nevertheless, IMHO, FF is, well, unproven. Its exploits are more basic
> and I would venture there are many yet to be uncovered. IE, on the
> otherhand, is much more tried, the discovered exploits are more esoteric
> [and difficult] and it probably doesn't have too many more majors ones
> yet to find.
>
> Saucy


Um, Netscape was around before Internet Exploder. Fire Fox is based on
Netscape so the new kid on the block is IE, not FF.

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      07-31-2007
Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IE 7 is still more vulnerable than Fire Fox and always will be, just
>>> like Windows is more vulnerable than Linux or the Mac and always will
>>> be.
>>>

>>
>>
>> Only in your dreams you liar!
>> Frank

>
>
> Blustering again, eh? Nothing I stated is a lie and you can't prove
> otherwise. All you can do is scream, shout and bluster all over the
> place like a deranged orangutan.
>


hehehe...no wittle liar man...you're still just a wittle liar.
Frank
 
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